now everyone knows how edward snowden revealed the government spying on hundreds of millions of people around the world. but if you want to know why snowden did it in the way he did it, needed to know the story of john crane, who worked 25 years for the department of defense inspector general's office, which helps federal employees expose abuse and corruption. he now says whistleblowers have little choice but to go outside the system. crane is coming for to speak about what happened to thomas drake who revealed the existence of a widespread illegal program of domestic surveillance. drake's house was raided by the fbi in 2007. he was charged in 2010 under the espionage act. in he pled guilty to a minor 2011, misdemeanor of unauthorized use of a government computer. he did not serve jail time. john crane and edward snowden's stories are told in the new book "bravehearts: whistle-blowing in , the age of snowden." in dozens of hours of interviews with reporter mark hertsgaard, crane described how in december 2010, drake's lawyers filed a complaint with the inspector general, alleging he ha

edward snowden reveals how the government was spying on hundreds of millions of people around the world, but if you want to know why snowden did it and how he did it, you need to know the story of john crane, who worked for 25 years for the inspector general's office which helps federal employees expose abuse and corruption. he n now says whisistleblowers e little choice bubut to go outsie the syststem. crane is coming forward to speak about what happened to nsa whistleblower thomas drake who revealed the existence of a widespread illegal program of domestic surveillance. drake's house was raided by the fbi in 2007 and he was charged in 2010 under the espionage act. >> espionage is a last thing my whistleblowing in first amendment activities and actions are all about. this has become the specter of a truly are well young -- orwellian world where whistleblowing has become espionage. amy: we will speak with john crane and journalist mark hertsgaard, who tells his story for the first time in his new book, "bravehearts: whistle-blowing in the age of snowden." all of that and more comi

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ryerson in the face. plus a new music video featuring edward snowden. is there anything that american hero can't do? and the university of washington is in trouble forgiving advice to potential cheerleaders. we've all been there. back to you, tom. >> thanks, andy. let's welcome our guestses. guests. look who found her corner of the sky, joanne nosuchunsky. he has a certain essence about him. is that inside enough? steve burn. she knows more about cash than june carter. she is the host of "risk and reward" on fox business network, dierdre bolton of sitting next to me, founder of ricochet.com, rob long. let's start the show. donald trump doesn't have a high regard for hillary clinton. it is true. on thursday the gop front runner attacked clinton again for playing the woman's card. during an interview with "the today show" trump said without the woman card hillary would not be a viable person to even run for city council position. meanwhile, the gop establishment is starting to rally around trump. john cornyn said this week i think he could change the electoral map in way we haven't seen

start today's show with edward snowden, the former cia employee turned whistleblower and fugitive from american justice. snowden and i had a spirited debate this week about whether or not the government should have lawful access to encrypted devices like the san bernardino iphone. i say yes, he of course says no. >> encryption saves lives. without it our economy stops. our government stops. everything stops. >>> and donald trump says mexico will pay to build a wall on its border with the u.s. >> we will build a wall and you know who is going to pay for the wall, mexico. >> but parag khanna says the next president should do the op set -- break down borders between north and south and form an all-powerful north american union. he will make his case. >>> also, islamic radicalism in pakistan has always been worrying because of that country's nuclear arsenal. pakistan's charismatic politician imran khan tries to explain the anger against america in the muslim world and why he says it's actually lessened in pakistan in recent years. >>> but first here is my take. after donald trump's foreign

. i'm assuming this is because edward snowden wants to come back to the u.s. and somehow the obama administration or u.s. ag eric holder is trying to lay the groundwork so that is possible. with your point, russia didn't really accept them because they were friendly. he was given information. >> absolutely right. in a sense what holder is trying to do now is he's out of office is to whitewash somebody who betrayed a fundamental trust it. seems that this administration and those affiliated with it don't have much respect for the genuine heroes but have time for the bergdahls and the snowdens, and it's a disgrace but also just a sad, sad thing. deirdre: let me ask you on a related matter how to do with tech companies, facebook, twitter, google, microsoft, pledging to tackle online hate speech to combat the use of social media by terrorists. but is this strong enough? i mean can the companies make a difference? there are a lot of people who say that the tech companies have done a lot more to prevent other crimes, which is great, but for some reason there is this last wall in somehow p

with edward snowden. ♪ ♪ emily: you were arrested for the first time when you were 18. kim: yeah. emily: you were convicted of insider trading later. kim: yeah. emily: why should we trust you now? many people think you are the world's biggest pirate. a white-collar criminal. kim: i am an easy target. when i was a young man, i made some mistakes. i was a hacker. i never hurt anybody. you know? i hacked into systems, because i was an adventurer. i wanted to find out if aliens really exist. but i have grown. i am a family man. i have five kids. i am different. i am not a criminal. emily: tell me about mega. what is this new business that you are working on? kim: after the raid, i spent a in lot of time thinking about -- spent a lot of time thinking about the intrusion of privacy. because in my own case, they have used the nsa to spy on me. the prime minister of new zealand has apologized for that, because they have done that illegally. i created a cloud storage website, where people who upload their files can be 100% sure their data is fully encrypted, that no government can access it. tha

edward snowden and the intercept's pulitzer prize-winning journalist glenn greenwald. snowden's introduction to the book has just been published on the intercept's website. joining us now, still with us jeremy scahill and glenn , greenwald is joining us from brazil. they founded the intercept with laura poitras. jeremy, layout the scope of the assassination complex, especially now as president obama is about to reveal at least with the government is are the numbert of people killed in drone strikes. programthe covert drone for the majority of its lifespan have been shrouded in secrecy and it was sort of a kind of macabre joke in washington because the entire world could see that the u.s. was raining bombs down on people across the globe and in an increasing number of countries in the early stages of the obama presidency by the u.s. would never confirm it had conducted a drone strike. instead, use the president obama making jokes at the white house correspondents association dinner about how he was going to conduct a drone strike against the jonas brothers if they came near his d

20 minutes after the pour. d edward snowden perform a public service? >>> oo we can argue about what snowden did what he did. i think he actually performed a public service. >> they are now backtracking new this morning edward snowden's response. >> you notice anything different about these search engines? apparently google doesn't care about honoring the fallen on member cal d memorial day. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by over producing six key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. most allergy pills only control one substance. flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. so you can seize those moments, wherever you find them. flonase. six is greater than one changes everything. i'm spending too muchs for time hiringnter. and not enough time in my kitchen. (announcer) need to hire fast? go to ziprecruiter.com and post your job . . these candidates. makes my job a lot easier. (announcer) over 400,000 businesses have already used ziprecruiter. and now you can use ziprecruiter for free. go to zi

edward snowden. he said the ex-nsa contractor performed a public service over government surveillance operations. the former attorney general has issued with the way he leaked classified documents and insists he must be held accountable. >> there needs to be a consequence for what he has done. i think in deciding what an appropriate sentence should be. i think the judge should take into account the usefulness of the national debate. >> you think he will still serve time? >> i think he should. i think he harmed american interests. i can't go into it. >> he would say he didn't. >> that is simply not true. i know there are ways in which certain of our agents were put at risk. relationships with other countries were harmed. our ability to keep the american people safe was compromised. >> snowden spent the last few years in exile in russia. holder says he should return to the u.s. to deal with the consequences of what he has done. >>> bad news for roman polanski. the government of poland says it will appeal to the country's supreme court. a lower court denied not to ext extex extradite pol

comments from one former top obama official about edward snowden may surprise you. the former beatles paul mccartney sing about britain's o2 exit the eurozone. next. we asked a group of young people when they thought they should start saving for retirement. then we asked some older people when they actually did start saving. this gap between when we should start saving and when we actually do is one of the reasons why too many of us aren't prepared for retirement. just start as early as you can. it's going to pay off in the future. if we all start saving a little more today, we'll all be better prepared tomorrow. prudential. bring your challenges. if maria: the city of chicago rack of violence over the holiday weekend. holiday weekend. cheryl casone with a story in the headlines. >> good morning, maria. my balance over the memorial day weekend in chicago making a one of the deadliest month on record. four people were killed and at least 53 more wounded in shootings over the weekend. in total 63 people were shot in this month alone in chicago. a new study finds the university of wiscon

said edward snowden broke the law when he leaked classified documents. hard to believe but holder said that what snowden did was actually a good thing. >> snowden did what he did but i think he performed a public service by raising the debate that we engage in. lauren: public service, we will have the story. historic floodings swamp texas, more rain on the way. we are going to have the forecast for you from fox meteorologist maria molina, you're watching fbn:am tuesday morning, welcome back from long weekend. you're watching fbn:am, first look at morning markets and breaking news nicole: we hope you had a wonderful weekend. it's 5:15 a.m. in new york. in an interview with fox news the state department former top watch rejected hillary clinton's repeated claims that her personal e-mail use was in loin with her predecessors and he said he would have immediately opened an investigation if he found out that secretary of state was using such an account. donald trump plans to announce today how much money he has raised for military veterans. trump has claimed that he raised $6 million f

-known whistle blowers in jail is changing his tune about edward snowden. that's up next at 11:00. >>> plus the latest on the investigation into the shooting of this gorilla after that 3-year-old boy ended up in his enclosure. =reopen omni!!= scott/vo that's alexander rossi.. who made a name for himself over the weekend.. the 24-year old from placer >>> that's alexander rossi who made a name for himself over the weekend. he came out of nowhere to win the indianapolis 500 on sunday, on his very first try. as for the markets, the dow jones industrials are down 137 points. nasdaq essentially not moving. it's the last trading day of the month. >>> former attorney general eric holder has changed his mind about whistleblower edward snowden. holder said in a podcast released monday, "i think that he, snowden, actually performed a public service by raising the debate that we engaged in and by the changes that we made." snowden of course is the former nsa worker who released secretes about the u.s. spy program, which tapped into phone calls and private information owned by companies like g

, though, you know, i see edward snowden as an example here in our notes as somebody who maybe you would have known something about it if you had done social media research. that may or may not be true but one thing that does stand out is the political contributions are available online and they -- i suppose even before social media in the online availability of this they were available. so you already have an analogue or probably a way of considering where you should consider or not consider political contributions when doing background research. but now that you have social media available to you, there's another layer of transparency or layer of opaqueness that's een removed. you can see where somebody supports a political candidate or not. by the way, edward snowden and i have similar contribution histories. my colleague here suggested you should be suspect of anybody that supports me. my question is, mr. evanina, do you take into account political support when you're doing background research in social media? mr. evanina: we do not. it's important for committee to understand the inv

think edward snowden has been a hero and the facebooker got to right. he sacrificed his life. he is still alive but has to live in russia. john: he's a traitor, i'm told, may have endangered american assets? >> he told americans what government was doing to them, and now having a debate about whether what he did was right and the entire debate is basedon knowing the information. >> he could have gone to congress instead of making it public? >> congress has had the authority to find the information out for years. they haven't looked for it. haven't wanted to know. john: larry? >> alexander is one of the greatest heroes of the last century. he spent ten years in the gulag, the soviet prison system. and had the courage to smuggle out much of his -- many of his writings, and continued to his dying day, in later years, defending individual liberty, and i think he was a great hero. john: kevin? >> howard fuller. he was superintendent of schools in milwaukee in the early 90s, and because of him we have school choice. he took a stand as an african-american superintendent and said this gover

edward snowden. we'll spend the hour honoring at this looking at the life and legacy of michael ratner. among those joining us, rumsfeld from --julian assange, from exile inside the ecuadorian embassy. in washington, d.c., presidential candidate donald trump is meeting with republican party leaders, including house speaker paul ryan, as the party faces a growing split over whether to support the presumptive presidential nominee. ryan has said he's not yet ready to support donald trump, whose calls to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants, to build a wall across the u.s.-mexico border and to ban , all muslim immigrants and visitors from entering the u.s. have caused widespread backlash. house minority leader nancy pelosi addressed today's anticipated meeting, saying that donald trump's platform is nothing new for the republican party. >> sie when have the house republicans been so concerned about intolerance statements and discriminatory ideas? they appear to be shopped other candidate, not just the front presumptive nominee, but all of their candidates appear rhetoric ond by the th

the midwest. system making its way as towns are continuing to recover. >> is edward snowden a criminal or hero? he has a new fan this morning. someone unexpected. a barn fire closed down highway 116 in sonoma county fo s >>> 6:12. a barn fire closed down highway 116 in sonoma county for several hours yesterday. flames engulfing a large barn and car. happened west of stoney point road. the wind and humidity made the fire much worse, hard to fight. the second floor of the barn looked like people had lived there, but no injuries were reported. >>> homeowners among those reportedly being notified about the possibility of losing trees too close to gas lines. pg&e notifies about 100 homeowners about trees too close to those gas lines. they are seeking consent to survey the trees and figure out whether they have to take action. they require trees within five feet of gaslines being removed. former attorney general eric holder is changing his wind about edward snowden. >> holder said he had to go to jail, now he says he did a public service. >> holder voiced that change of mind in a podcast mon

attorney general eric holden say edward snowden performed a public service. >> there is a fire truck [bleep]. oh, my god. bill: what caused a burst of planes right before that plane took flight. when it comes to quitting cigarettes, why does it feel like all or nothing? would you expect me to lose 25 pounds overnight? i'm taking it one cigarette at a time. that's how zonnic helps me quit. zonnic nicotine gum. every victory counts. so we don't have to wad to get clean.t charmin ultra soft gets you clean without the wasteful wadding. it has comfort cushions you can see that are softer... ... and more absorbent, and you can use up to 4 times less. enjoy the go with charmin. >> i think he actually performed a public service by raising the debate we engaged in and by the changes we made. doing what he did the way he did it was inappropriate and illegal. in deciding what an appropriate sentence should be, i think a judge could take into account the usefulness of having had that national debate. bill: that's an interesting comments. that's eric holder talking about the man who launched a na

. >>> and former attorney general eric holder now praising edward snowden saying the ex is contractor performed a valuable public service by leaking government documents. so what does he want? snowden? to do now? tried in a u.s. court? we look at that, next. ...anothm in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair works... ...in one week. with the... fastest retinol formula. ...to visibly reduce wrinkles. neutrogena®. or if you're young or old.are if you run everyday, no matter who you are a heart attack can happen without warning. if you've had a heart attack, a bayer aspirin regimen can help prevent another one. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. bayer aspirin. >>> one of the fbi's top ten most wanted was caught at the mexican border. los angeles police say philip patrick polocarpio was already on parole when he beat and shot his pregnant girlfriend last month. he was made a fugitive offered a $100,000 reward, border patrol picked him up trying to cross back into the u.s. from tijuana. >>> praise for edward snowden from the u

at the nixon administration has part of to do with it. the fact that figures like edward snowden are capable of putting incredible revelations out in the press and have a widespread effect probably also has a way of undermining some of the opacity and some of the power of institutions. so, what does this mean? one of the first things that it means is that it is a real uphill battle for people who are strongly associated with existing institutions of government. it was amazing to watch all the good and the great of the gop stand up and support marco rubio to absolutely no effect. if you start thinking about it, if you sort of accept my theory that we are at an anti-institutionalist moment, an insurrectionist moment, a moment at which people are incredibly suspicious of any institution, there is really nothing worse than having mitt romney show up and say, what you really ought to do right now is vote for marco rubio. this probably represents a really tough uphill path for hillary clinton, who is someone who has built her career through the institutions of the senate, the institutions

it a change of heart regarding edward snowden? now praising the leaker. >>> and live in atlantic city trying to look at the boardwalk and can barely see it because of the fog. i am tracking a big change in the air mass as we head through the day tomorrow and i explain in the accuweather forecast. >>> and plus jeff skversky with the phillies looking for a division win tonight. >>> and an nba playoff series coming down to game seven that and much more when "action news" comes right back. ♪ >> we have this into "action news" tonight. a police officer in prospect park, delaware county injured while responding to a home invasion. it happened about an hour ago at lafayette avenue. one of three suspects in the home invasion was fleeing the scene and hit the officer with a car. there's no word yet on the officer's condition. we do know the suspect fled on i-95 into the city of philadelphia, and the police believe he got off the highway at gerard avenue. and he is interested dangerous and still at live. we keep you updated as we get more information. >>> the gorilla exhibit at the cinci

edward snowden performed a public service when he leaked classified material back in 2013. holder said snowden broke the law and should face the consequences but that he sparked a national debate about secret domestic surveillance programs. snowden mocked the evolution of thought about his actions. he tweeted this out. in 2013, it's treason. in 2014, maybe not, but it was reckless. 2015, still technically it was unlawful. 2016, it was a public service but -- 2017, hinting at the government's shifting stance. >>> the golden state warriors' historic season continues. they won game seven of the western conference finals last night against the oklahoma city thunder, beating oklahoma 96-88. despite setting the regular season record for most wins, the warriors had to battle back, winning three elimination games to reach the finals. >> we continue to battle. we leaned on the experience that we've had. everybody stuck together. that was, what was important. >> golden state will take on lebron james and the cleveland cavaliers in a rematch of last season's nba finals. first game is thursday in

, edward snowden the former contactor the surveillance program is pieces fall with the public service by fueling the debate over government eavesdropping the same time his return to nine states to stand trial is living in russia and france is many different types of charges a spokesperson with the bureau says philip was taken into custody in san diego point of entry yesterday's crossing into the u.s. from t one mexico he's accused of killing the lapd at the shooting and killing a is your friend that added him to the most wanted list early this month no other information is available where track in developing story of san francisco will have more details on the theft of an fbi agent's gun and badge presents a candid bernie sanders is spending this memorial day and the bay area the big rally that is going on right now >>reporter: and fbi agent back in credentials was all stolen from his vehicle the car was parked near hays in chemistry at alamo when it was broken into on sunday afternoon that the guy tells of that come early following internal protocol and working with police at this time

report, edward snowden is getting praise from former attorney general eric holder. >> we can talk about the way that snowden did, what he did, but i think he performed a public service by raising the debate that we engaged in and by the changes that we make. >> holder says that his actions were illegal and they harmed america's interests and he said that snowden should return to the u.s. to face trial. snowden did respond on twitter last night. it's treason, 2015, still technically it was unlawful, and 2016, it was a public service, but -- and 2017 is left blank. >>> iraqi military forces have launched a major operation in fallujah trying to drive isis militants out of one of the last major strong holds. they see capturing the sunni strong hold as key. a spokesman says they're less than three miles from the city itself and are backed from air cover from the u.s. led military coalition. this comes less than a week after a u.s. air strike killed a local leader in the air. >>> the department of department affairs has been criticized lately. and now there are concerns that the integra

." former u.s. attorney general eric holder now says fugitive leaker edward snowden performed a public service for his actions, but notes that he still deserves to be punished. here's what he told former obama adviser david axelrod. >> we can certainly argue about the way in which snowden did what he did. but i think that he actually performed a public service by raising the debate that we engaged in and by the changes that we made. now i would say that doing what he did and the way he did it was illegal. >> holder called on snowden to come back to the u.s. and face the consequences of his actions. snowden has been living in moscow for the last three years and he claims he had volunteered to go to prison but had not heard back from the u.s. government. the doj would not confirm or deny it. >>> the veterans administrations are saying they will name themselves but the totals have been scrutinized and there's yet to be a full accounting of where the funds went. veterans groups have protested demanding to know more. >>> meanwhile, amid reports of an independent candidate, trump supporter b

heard about metadata when edward snowden, famous whistleblower revealed that the national security agency, the nsa was collecting meta-data on all of us. that is the phone calls we make, the sites we visit, the emails we make, and metadata. they are supposedly not reading or listening to the content, but are supposedly not reading or listening to the content, but just looking at this meta- data. so hayden said quote, we we kill people based on metadata, but it recently revealed that the nsa's skynet program, which uses an algorithm together metadata to identify and target terror suspects in pakistan, somalia, and afghanistan would result in 99000 false positives. so what happens is, they target a cell phone believed to be carried by a terrorist, let's say he gives it to his mother. she is the one who gets killed based upon this metadata. obama said in an interview in the atlantic recently that he has no second thoughts about the drone strikes in the middle east. armed drones are operated by pilots located thousands of miles from their target. how many of you saw the film good kill?

. attorney general eric holder has said nsa whistleblower edward snowden performed a "public service" by leaking documents revealing nsa mass surveillance. holder made the comments while speaking on a podcast hosted by david axelrod. >> we can certainly argue about the way in which snowden did what he did, but i think he actually performed a public service by raising the debate that we engaged in and by the chchanges s that we made. amy: this comes as edward snowden is calling for an overhaul in whistleblower protections after former senior pentagon official john crane has spoken out publicly about how his superiors broke the law to punish a key national security agency whistleblower for leaking information about waste, mismanagement and surveillance. , to see our exclusive broadcast interview with a former pentagon official john crane go to , democracacynow.org. anand after nearly seven w weekn strike, tens of thousands of verizon workers have declared victory. it was one of the biggest u.s. strikes in years, as workers fought verizon's efforts to cap pensions, cut benefits and outsourc

raising the debate that we engaged in and by the changes that we made. amy: this comes as edward snowden is calling for an overhaul in whistleblower protections after former senior pentagon official john crane has spoken out publicly about how his superiors broke the law to punish a key national security agency whistleblower for leaking information about waste, mismanagement and surveillance. , to see our exclusive broadcast interview with a former pentagon official john crane go to , democracynow.org. and after nearly seven weeks on strike, tens of thousands of verizon workers have declared victory. it was one of the biggest u.s. strikes in years, as workers fought verizon's efforts to cap pensions, cut benefits and outsource work to mexico, the philippines and the dominican , republic. under a deal announced monday, workers will receive a nearly 11% raise over four years. the deal also decreases verizon's ability to outsource work. last week, verizon worker pamela galpern spoke with democracy now! about the strike. >> for a company as profitable as verizon, i think it was clear that that

leading up to the edward snowden classified info he made several posts using a consistent user name complaining about government surveillance and the posts may have alerted authorities that he could be an insider threat. have any of the social media pilot programs evaluated to date capable of detecting that sort of post where the subject is posting under an online identity that is not complicitly the individuals' name. >> sir, i'm not specific to the nature of those particular pilots but those posts from mr. snowden that he did would not have been caught in social media because it is not facing but there was private chats with other individuals beyond the password protected. >> so if they are -- if they are using semi anonymous names to the extent that there are public forums, would requiring the disclosure of any alternative online identity on the fx 86 form be helpful. >> sir, we are not planning on asking anyone to provide any passwords or e-mail accounts or individual reference to their online persona. >> so basically, if -- so we'll look at social media if their posting of -- i

within the rules and regulations policy type work. >> in the years leading up to edward snowden's -- he made several posts to on line forms using consistent usernames complaining about government surveillance and these posts may have alerted authorities that there could be an insider threat. have any of the pilot programs evaluated incapable of detecting that sort of post where the subject is posting under an on line identity that is not explicitly the individuals named? >> sir i'm not specific to the exact nature of the death and granularity of this but i can tell you those particular pose for mr. snowden would not be public facing and they were private chats with individuals beyond the password. >> so in using semi-anonymous names to the extent that there are public forums, would requiring the disclosure of any alternative on line identity from from the fs 86 form be something that would be helpful? >> sir we are currently not planning on asking anyone to provide passwords or e-mail accounts or individual reference to their on line persona. >> so basically we will look at social media

talk to my client. john: you had a condition. >> i did. when the edward snowden case came to light i mentioned to my husband, i did not think that it was right that the government was able to collect my telephone data when i had not done anything wrong. i mentioned it, and later on that night, i am a nurse in the neonatal intensive care. about one am he sent me a text message saying, would you be willing to be the plaintiff in the case suing the president? and i said sure, as long as i don't have to do any interviews, and here i am. john: in the satire he tried to reassure his girlfriend about his spying on her e-mails. >> analyzing metadata. >> no one is listening to your telephone calls. john: both are true. they are just gathering, looking for patterns, and may be able find a will find a terrorist that way. >> but that reveals a lot about you. >> maybe they will find someone who wants to kill us >> but this program has been wholly ineffective at doing that. it does not keep us safe. john: congress has kind of taking your side at least saying that the phone companies have to hold t

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and now, out of office, he weighs in on arch traitor, edward snowden. there's no excuse. first of all, he's tried to influence the american justice system, but snowden is not a hero. snowden betrayed the crown jewels of the nsa's programs, that chinese to russians, to the terrorists, he did nothing positive for the american people and, stuart, i'll offer the same challenge i've offered since this story first broke years ago, i want-- there are over 300 million americans. give me the name of one, just one law abiding citizen who has been harmed in any way by any nsa program? nobody on the left can give me a single name. stuart: you said two things there. number one, you said that maybe attorney general holder is trying to undermine or set up the american legal system. do you mean by that, that they want snowden to come back and face trial and they want him back? is that what you're talking about? >> well, no, actually, i think holder is trying to whitewash what snowden did. on the extreme left, and eric holder in my view, belongs to the extreme left, much farther left than presiden

, regulations, policies so forth. >> in the years leading up to edward snowden's theft of classified info. he used user name complaining about government surveillance in these posts may have alerted authorities that he could be an insider threat. have any of the social media pilot program evaluated have they been capable of detecting that sort of post where it's posting on an online identity that's not the individual's name. >> i'm not specific to the exact nature of granularity of the pilots. those particular posts would not have been caught in social media because it's not public facing and it was private chats beyond the password protected. >> so if if they're using anonymous names to the extent that there are public forums would requiring a disclose sure of any alternative online identities on the fa 86 form be something that would be helpful. >> we're currently not asking anyone to provide any other alternative passwords or e-mail accounts or individual reference to their online persona. >> so, basically, if -- so we'll look at social media if they're posting -- if john smith applies for

: let me ask you this. in the years heading to edward snowden, he made several posts using a consistent user name complaining about government surveillance. these posts may have alerted authorities that he could be an insider threat. has any of the social media pilot programs evaluated to date been capable of detecting that sort of post where the subject is posting that is not explicitly the individual's name? mr. evanina: sir, i'm not specific to the exact nature of the depth of the particular pilot. i can tell you those particular posts from mr. snowden that he did would not have been caught in social media because it's not public facing and there was private chats beyond the password protected. mr. desantis: so if they're using semianonymous names to the extent there are public forums, would requiring the disclosure of any identities on the form be something that would be helpful? mr. evanina: sir, we're currently not providing asking ople anyone of emails or online persona. mr. desantis: so we'll look at social media if john smith applies for security clearance and you'll look for j

there mixed motives on all sides? look at the international outrage spawned by edward snowden. guest: sure. from one standpoint, you have countries that say, we don't want to have this information turned over, because it reflects privacy issues. in another case, the country says we do want to have that information, because we are protecting ourselves from terrorism. recognize that in countries where, for example, or is not freedom of speech, the desire to get information to punish a political opponent might not be acceptable in the united states. we would be refusing as a nation to cooperate and turned that over. the question is, how do you come up with global standards that allow law enforcement with proper authorization to get access to information that prevents terrorist attacks, but not allow nations to impose views on political issues on other countries in the globe? emily: let's take the attacks in example.and paris, for what is the evidence that is law-enforcement had access to u.s. tech company data, that the attacks could have been prevented? guest: actually, what appears to

. then the media punched ryerson in the face. plus a new music video featuring edward snowden. is there anything that american hero can't do? and the university of washington is in trouble forgiving advice to potential cheerleaders. we've all been there. back to you, tom. >> thanks, andy. let's welcome our guestses. g

reports former attorney general eric holder's latest views on edward snowden insist the former nsa contractor should stand trial but calls it a public service. edward snowden tweeted, 2013, it's treason. 2014 s maybe not, but it was reckless. 2015, still, technically, it was unlawful. 2016, it was a public service. snowden suggests what will happen in 2017 is unknown. he is in russia to avoid prosecution. >>> "the wall street journal" reports on north korea's attempt to launch another missile today. south korea says it likely failed. the missile was reportedly fired from north korea's east coast. it was said to be a powerful mid range missile that could reach american bases in asia and the pacific. this was the fourth attempt at a successful launch since april. >>> and "the houston krolg" says the gunman who opened fire in an auto shop an army veteran who served in afghanistan. a customer was killed and several people were wounded in the shooting on sunday. responding officers killed the gunman. friends of the shooter say that he suffered from post-traumatic stress syndrome. >>> ga

to the nightmare, let's not forget edward snowden. >> yes. >> and he damaged and done to you as intelligence capabilities and that's just so staggering it's beyond our ability really willy to describe how serious that is and we were tacking about damages assessments when i was the national executive one of the responsibilities of my office was to do the damage assessments. i will tell you that it was difficult enough to do it on a long serving spotlight. one of the things of everything s that she compromised. take that and expand it into what edward snowden was able to get and hand over to the russians. i don't envy the damage who are accessing the damage because it's difficult to get through. >> do you want to poll into this. i want to save time for two quick questions. >> i will just add on to that. we're working with a large oil and gas company. i guess that they're all very large. >> not all. one of them was asserted on to o the laptop and then once he was compromised, he was able to move laterally to all of the other executives because they thought that they were receiving