>> well, i would say paul ryan. i would really think that's. >> trump last night striking an unusual conciliatory tone towards ryan in advance of the meeting today. the other item on our agend adjust a suggestion. trump last night seeming to back away from his call to temporarily ban muslims from entering the united states. >> have you decided whether you'll back off on the ban. i realize it was a temporary ban but with an unlimited temporary period could go on forever. >> sure, i'd back off on it it. >> trump saying that was just a suggestion. that could be a potential ofive branch from trump to ryan. it's been condemned forcefully by ryan and by many other top republicans. an aide suggesting that trump's thinking on entitlement reform could also be flexible. trump also once again open to releasing his tax returns. that's the signal he's sending at this moment. all that and much more to come this hour. >>> we begin with where all eyes are at this moment on that summit about to begin between donald trump and paul ry

bid. >> sarah palin saying, this is personal for paul ryan and i'm not sure that's true, that paul ryan wants to run for president in 020 and wants trump to lose so he can run. the point is fascinating. eric cantor was house majority leader beaten by a tea party challenger that nobody thought had a prayer. as donald trump tries to win the presidency, you have conservatives like sarah palin at the same moment, keep the tea party versus the establishment civil war going at the ballot box. >> the good thing that paul ryan has on its side is wisconsin is sort of one of the bases for the anti-trump movement. i don't know how much paul ryan has to fear from a primary challenge back home. >> we talked about this in the game of paul ryan, everybody knows who he is. he's the central figure in this but you can find this everywhere in the country, republicans saying what do i do? >> the odd thing is the tea party chalers to incumbents have been failing this year in the indiana primary, the tea party candidate for senate lost, the establishment candidate endorsed by mitch mcconnell won the primary.

i'm paul ryan. for every nasty tweet you tweeted out bt me over six months, i'm going to tell the rules committee to kill your stupid, idiotic bills every day. they are never going to see the light of day. maybe you can find somebody -- >> you're sounding like donald. >> whoever the rules committee chairman is will say that to donald trump. gu go ahead, show me how powerful you are. >> you're using the very system that has lied to the base, that has cheated the american public, that has -- >> i have a great idea, donald. why don't you hold one of those big rallies. ville dinner with my rules committee chairman. >> you play the washington inside game and i play the outside game. guess what happens when you're up for reelection? >> your bills don't pass. >> it doesn't matter. i'll get the congress. >> i have been elected in jainsville now since 1998. democrats have been elected president in my district. i'm going to keep winning. >> you're not going to keep winning. >> we gerrymandered the system so b

said this morning that if paul ryan doesn't come around to back donald trump, then that makes paul ryan unfit to be speaker. said it actually to you this morning preponderance priebus is now trying to step in as peacemaker and that's where we begin this hour. phil mattingly is joining us. what are are we learn being this meeting? >> so this isn't supposed to happen. we're not supposed -- just wanted to clarify that right off the bat. reince priebus has become an outlet for donald trump of late. that's what made it most interesting when reince priebus at a playbook breakfast this morning recalled what happened after jake's interview aired, a specific phone call from donald trump. >> it wasn't like furious or anything. it was just like what do -- you know, what do i need to do? i mean -- and so i said, listen, let me just -- you know, my view is just relax and be gracious and i'll talk to paul, and we'll try to work on this. i know paul really well, and i know he's being honest, and i know how he feels, and so i'm comfortable with the idea that it's going to take some time in some cases f

paul ryan has power. paul ryan has strength. he leads policy. the intellectual wing. the future of the republican party really is in paul ryan's hands. trump is a strong guy. trump respects strength. paul ryan says, okay, let's talk. this is good probably for both of them. this is the opening bid in that negotiation. >> you think it's inevitable they'll come around? >> i think they have to come around. it will be up to trump to understand that he needs something paul ryan has. paul ryan has the future. hillary clinton is the candidate with the past. she's more of the same. from washington. hasn't done enough. paul ryan is saying there's a new economy. the world's connected. we have to open things up. he gave a brilliant speech at georgetown the other day about that. trump is not running as a party guy. trump is running as i'm one human being, person, i'm going to do a better job. he has no vision around which to rally a party. that's what ryan could give him. >> he made it clear he's not running as a conservative. solely as a conservative. you have the famous cover, t

ryan's district s defeated in paul ryan's state. how is t the way paul ryan is handling this so far, how is that playing back home? >> well, he is hanging on to a 64 point lead than his sara palin endorsed district. he doesn't have to worry about that 80 to 14 over this guy. sara palin doesn't have a lot of political juice back home. if the flying monkeys thought they would intimidate ryan, complete fail. ryan had two things, is donald trump going to campaign as an adult and as a conservative. there is no indication that he is willing to do either of those things. when i do think, part of this is political. you are talking about governing, i don't think that paul ryan thinks that donald trump will be president. he is trying to limit the damage, and limit the damage that donald trump will do as a conservative. you want to know what is in that train. where is he taking the train? is the engineer a crack pot. there was a lot of happy talk. you heard that happy talk. everybody is being nice to one another. these differences, you outline

this is donald trump and paul ryan. while we were honest about our few differences we recognize that there are also many important areas of common ground. sounded like a diplomatic communique following a summit meeting going on. there are clear difference business tween these two men. >> it was definitely carefully worded. the message was unity. i am pleased to see speaker ryan try to join the rest of his party. you had camccain come out and s republican leaders would be foolish, a very strong word, not to listen to voters who send a clear message in every cnn exit poll that they feel betrayed by the republican party. john mccain understands the republican party does not exist if they don't have voters. to see speaker ryan come over to the dick cheney point of view he is almost there. very encouraging step for future of the republican party and for this election. >> do you think he he's softening his stance? paul ryan clearly disagrees with him on this. one he announced the ban on muslims coming the united states and th

paul ryan is in a tough place. he basically continues to hold this position not endorsing donald trump and he risks the wrath of a lot of republican voters who voted for trump being upset at him. it is a no-win situation. it is possible paul ryan comes on board but i don't think you'll see the mitt romneys or the bush clan get on board either tomorrow or october or november. >> mark murray, thank you as always. hallie jackson was inside that briefing room. before we get to hallie, i do want to note for our viewers at home, you saw a number of the speakers inside that conference room there wearing that big purple ribbon. we can tell you that the purple ribbon is in memory of victims of opioid abuse and the bulk of that news conference was devoted to legislation talking about efforts to curb opioid abuse in this country. we know that it's the leading cause of injury-related death for folks between 35 and 54 and a lot of conversation against the backdrop of what we are watching play out in chanhassen, minnesota, in th

it's not a win-win for paul ryan. paul ryan loses whichever way he goes. if he doesn't support donald trump, then he's abandoning a lot of members. there will be division inside the republican party. and he'll have the day-to-day responsibilities of managing a house where he's leaving some of his members hanging out to dry politically. if he endorses trump, then he betrays decades of principles, conservative principles, and he's supporting a man who says the republican party in effect is not the conservative party. so it's going to be a tough call for him. donald trump if he gets paul ryan's endorsement, that's a win because he's got the entire republican establishment capitulating to him. if paul ryan doesn't endorse him, he can beat up the republican establishment in washington, d.c., between now and november. so right now there's no doubt donald trump is holding the stronger cards. paul ryan just has to figure out what the least bad solution is. and we're going to continue to follow up on today's big meeting. now less than an hour away. steve kornacki w

>> paul ryan does not support a third party, because paul ryan is raising money for republicans. paul ryan wants to -- whether donald trump wins or loses, he wants to be there. if donald trump loses to pick up the pieces and move on to keep the house majority, senate majority and maybe down the road can run for president. i think paul ryan was putting down a marker today and donald trump was offended that paul ryan didn't wait until they met before having this break, if you will. paul ryan also made clear, he also made very clear, erin, he would like to support trump and is hoping they can have a meeting, one set up for next week where trump can at least embrace most of the ryan agenda. the principles of the ryan agenda. and that then they can say we agree to disagree on some other things. >> perhaps they'll get there. a quick final word, why would he do it ahead of their meeting? >> i don't know. because i think that paul ryan wanted to be the one who is in charge of the discussion, right? he wants to be the one out front. "outfront." play off words. but, you know, erin, here's

she's covering house speaker paul ryan. it's a wild scene. we've seen folks with -- at one point saw bag pipes and there was a coffin. what are those folks doing there this morning? >> reporter: well, let's take a walk and we'll show you. we're outside rnc headquarters and here's where the protesters are. i'll have our camera man paul show you. they are from ultnited we dream. they are trying to make a stand or show their voice here. they tried to deliver a fake coffin to the rnc. you can see it behind the shot. if you look down there's more members of the media back that way. if you come back this way, there's also to give you a sense of what kind of circus is, there's a group of bag pipers playing, they have shown up and they are sort of giving a performance if you will outside the rnc. there are a couple of trump supporters here. there's one gentleman wearing a make america great again shirt. so it is a circus unsurprisingly outside the rnc. we should note that the members of the media seem to outnumber the protesters that are here. when y

>> well, i mean, here's paul ryan's problem. paul ryan's problem is that he's got to try to keep the house in what could be a very challenging election cycle. lou: if they keep acting like this it's not going to be very challenging at all, at least not to the democrats. >> right. and as it goes for ryan, he could also have a president with whom he and donald trump have huge fundamental casmatic differences on policy points. ryan is a free trader and all that stuff. he's betwixt and between. lou: i have to put an addendum on the list as you were talking about the trump agenda and platform. he is a free trader. he's just not too thrilled with mercantile practice and the nations like china and germany, but with that addendum. >> duly noted. lou: as always, we find ourselves in raptured agreement. and thank you, thanks for being with us. >> harmony, my brother, harmony, my brother. lou: and tranquility. chris stirewalt. vote in our poll tonight -- that's where the jobs are, folks, that's where the jobs are. cast your vote on twitter

he did not know paul ryan was going to do this. paul ryan's staff did not call donald trump. donald trump sat there and started thinking, more people have voted for me in this primary than any other republican primary in the history of the country. why is it incumbent on donald trump to move toward paul ryan? why is it incumbent for him to move towards republican leaders? donald trump decided it isn't and that's where you're seeing him right now going into thursday, keeping a very hard stance on where he's been on policy, where he's been on tone. paul ryan should have to come to him, and guys where that basically leaves us a couple days away from this is no closer to any type of resolution. >> no closer to a kumbaya moment, no closer to any middle ground. put this all in context, the broader context of the week and where donald trump is right now. and a candidate that seems to be trying to transition to a general in tone but, but, dot, dot, dot, but not yet it seems. >> put yourself in donald trump's head space for a moment. he has done nothing but -- >> that is a challenge,

and on first street here with the meeting with paul ryan. halie jackson is still standing by, halie, did he say anything? >> reporter: he waved at me standing outside here but that was about it. he has done that all morning. it is interesting. we heard as our colleagues pointed out, we heard from chairman priebusnd paul ryan but have not heard of donald trump. you can see secret service just kind of dispersing it at this point. he was with his aids, all walking down this building. trump's legal team he's meeting with his lawyer apparently. we are working to find out what happened inside this building. trump is uncharacteristically is quiet how this went. he's somebody that often likes to speak to the media. i would not be surprise at some point of the next 24 or 48 hours that we hear something from donald trump. heading back to new york and back home to trump tower as washington gets used to the idea of donald trump the presumptive nominee and coming to washington more often to build relationship. that's one thing we have heard on capitol hi

as far as paul ryan goes and i think this gets lost in the discussion, paul ryan is a speaker in the house of representatives. he's the new speaker in the house of representatives. he has a long career ahead of him and a very powerful position. he needed to draw the line in the sand to show to donald trump and to anyone else that he is in control of the situation specifically when it comes to the house. look, they both walk away as winners. paul ryan, wolf, looks like he's going to stand his ground and has stood his ground. donald trump is looking like he's not anti-establishment. in the end, guess what, they will all come together. >> peter, after today's meeting, it looks like speaker ryan has moved from not yet trump to probably trump. do you agree? >> yeah. he looked carefully at what he said and you contrast it with what he said a week ago with jake tapper and it was really interesting. he said donald trump inherits the party of lincoln and reagan and jack kemp and has to move towards its principles. he didn't say that today. he said we have to unify, suggesting he might have to

paul ryan is in a difficult spot here. a lot of things that excited his base and propelled him to where we are some of the things the republican party wants him to move away from. he has to figure out if there is a path that he can do that and moderate and move away from the positions without actually alienating some of the people that really supported him and carried him this far that he will need in a polling hole with the democrats. >> a guy who knows how it works and how you have to really get some discipline and control in washington. that is something he talked about for years. you have a donald trump presidency maintaining medicare and spending more money and tax cuts for everyone. >> very high intensity dance. >> tal. thank you. >>> thousands of people evacuated by air as a monster wildfire approaches. details next. [bur farmers,we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even a ufh2o. [man] that's not good. [pilot] that's not good. [man] that's really not good. [burke] it happened august

i need paul ryan's help. had he done that, would have served that ball to paul ryan's court and he would have to help donald trump bring the party together. now it looks like we're at war. >> kayleigh, do you see, paul ryan seems to want donald trump to say publicly or not donald trump's positions. >> that's exactly right. it would have been against his brand to do what mark is suggesting, if he were to come out in a situation where you have something unprecedented, speaker of the house coming against the nominee, cow tow to that, wouldn't make sense. mccain had many points, he opposed bush tax cuts, he was still on board. mitt romney had the blueprint in massachusetts, it is nonsensical. people say it is about defending conservative values. that's a cover and front for the never trump movement. if that's what it were about, they would have been against mccain and romney. >> a lot of us were not happy with mccain or with mitt romney, but they were at least republican enough for us. there are a couple of issue

paul ryan is that bridge. what i think you will see after this thursday is that donald trump represents the american people coming in to meet with paul ryan and donald trump is bringing into this room metaphorically 10.7 million people. paul ryan is going to say american people i get it, trump is the guy. paul ryan will have to talk to the washington, d.c. elite and say it's time to come around. let's beat hillary clinton. i think all of this is just at the end of the day going to help next week when paul ryan holds hands with donald trump. >> what about possibly some of it helping hillary clinton because reports that the campaign wants to win over republicans who don't like donald trump. there was a point in the not so distant past when trump said positive things about hillary clinton. do you think she can pick up support? >> she can try. it is up to trump to bring republicans disenfranchised back into the fold. he has to do work and not assume every vote will come his way. he can take no vote for granted. he

paul ryan plays tough. paul ryan is in a situation. any other speaker of the house would be in a seemingly tough position. >> what's so tough? if he's the nominee of your party, it should be like that endorsed. >> but he's a bit rogue. he's not a traditional republican. he's not a traditional conservative. >> he's a guy that wants to cut social security, medicare. he is not, you know, he's establishment. he's not even conservative for crying out loud. >> you are talking about paul ryan? >> yes. >> paul ryan, he has that problem, too. he's got problems with the right flank, the conservative wing of the conservative party. he has problems built in without donald trump. donald trump comes along, he is in the middle of two great tech on theic forces that are better colliding inside the republican party him paul ryan is the highest roompging setting aside the highest ranking republican in the country. >> is that the problem? is that the prosch? >> it's a power play, of course it is, lou. >> certainly paul ryan understands that -- >> he's no

we are waiting to hear from paul ryan. paul ryan set to speak at the capitol. we just got this joint statement with donald trump. we can expect they'll say more along those lines, a lot of unity, a lot of common ground. >> he often takes questions at these press conservativeses afe that's where the interesting parts begin. >> we'll be right back. >>> speaker ryan's first comments after his high stakes meeting with drurp. >> there is a lot to discuss. i want to bring in jim geraghty, mary katherine ham, jackie kucini kucinich, and kevin sherton. jim, i want to start with you. you work for the national review which made it its reason deet tray. now that you hear paul ryan, the highest elected republican official in the land talk about unity and common ground and how great this meeting was, is this what you wanted to see from paul ryan? >> they're all going to sell out eventually. you know, when the rick perrys and bobby gjindals of the world who said you can't trust donald trump with nuclear weapons, he's a mad man who needs to be stopped -- oh, never mind, he's

that is who paul ryan is. he's the guy who brings the wonkery and principle and at the end of the day he caves. remember in, 2012 he was mitt romney's running mate. mitt romney ran to the left of barack obama on medicare while paul ryan designed the plan to reform medicare. he had to swallow all that have and carry the romney message into the fight against obama. >> that's what ryan does at the end. day. >> one of the lessons of 2012, and here's paul ryan -- i want to talk about paul ryan because he plays a particular role in this. let's listen to what he said about the presser. >> i was very encouraged with what i heard from donald trump today. i do believe that we're now planting the seeds to get ourselves unified, to bridge the gaps and differences and so from here we're going to go deeper into the policy areas to see where that common ground is and how we can make sure that we are operating off the same core principles. >> all right. so here's the thing. remember, even though romney was the top. ticket in

we are awaiting paul ryan's comments. we should have those moments from now and we will have them live. heather: i am in for generally. the republican primary race may just about be over but party infighting is not. a major effort to change that is donald trump meets with republicans on the hill including paul ryan. john: after the surprise announcement that the speaker was not ready to endorse the presumptive gop nominee trump meeting with the gop house leadership today and getting ready to sit down with senate republican leaders 45 minutes from now. john roberts is live at national committee headquarters in washington. >> reporter: good morning. we expect some members of the house leadership on the republican side will come out to the microphone soon, that meeting with donald trump just wrapped up. it went about an hour after the meeting with paul right and reince priebus went for about an hour. things are looking positive this morning. you don't want to spend a lot of time, sources inside the meeting describe the tone,

and take on paul ryan. you didn't see him challenge paul ryan in his stump speech tonight when he was at his rally. you know, he released a statement saying we're going to agree to disagree. and donald trump moved on. and so i think we're seeing -- i know we always say this -- a different donald trump than the one that would have taken to twitter, because he's not running against anybody anymore. >> no twitter tirade but a statement that a traditional politician, but what about the rest of the campaign? how are they reacting? >> i think tonight at a rally our sarah murray reported that while trump didn't say anything, corey lewandowski was gaggling to reporters off-camera, and reporters were asking him whether this was a slap in the face to donald trump, and he said, look, there's the leader of the republican party. and he pointed to donald trump. it's not paul ryan. it's donald trump. >> who is it? who is it? >> that's a big question. it depends on which vision you embrace, and i don't think this is an arg

to twitter and take on paul ryan. you didn't see him challenge paul ryan at his stump speech tonight. he released a statement saying we're going to agree to disagree. i think we're seeing, i think it's a different kind of donald trump than the one during a campaign who would have taken to twitter, because he's not running against anybody any more. and he doesn't want to run against the speaker of the house. >> no twitter tirade, but just a statement which a traditional politician would do. how about the rest of the campaign? how are they reacting? >> i think tonight at a rally, while trump didn't say anythingo reporters offcamera. was this a slap in the face to donald trum. he said, look, there's the leader of the republican party and he pointed to donald trump. it's not paul ryan, it's donald trump. >> who is it? >> i think it depends which vision you embrace. i don't think this is an argument that republicans want to be having right now. i think at some point -- i was speaking to someone who's a friend of paul ryan'

has paul ryan been at disneyland. for donald trump to take this meeting and be generous about it is more than he had to do. at this point paul ryan may be gaming it to stretch the type out as others are trying to figure out how to stop mr. trump. that has to be considered. it would be outrageous. we are 180 days until the general election. charles: you are thinking he may have if he their was motives. >> he says i can't make up my mind in 45 minute. are you kidding us? what we have been through, you know who donald trump is. he has known hip for a period of time even before he announced. this would give other looking for options some more time and i think it's shameful if that's the case. charles: michael goodwin do you see where this can be spun and ultimately come out as a positive? and if so would it mean donald trump giving in on something he campaigned on? >> that's great. it's fascinating to watch as the mess anding dynamic, if not a mess anding war. i think the congress, need donald trump more than he need them

paul ryan and trump. and that's true, that's why the key word is principle, i saw paul ryan say it several times. he said we're going to unite various wings of the party around common principles. he mentioned again, principles. he knows he's never going to see eye to eye on policy he's going to keep using the word "principles" that shows me that paul ryan is ready to deal. >> he's further away on policy, with hillary clinton than he is with donald trump. paul ryan. and he should, come on, he's the speaker of the house. you're down to two choices, you're down to hillary clinton or donald trump. you're not getting a third choice, paul. get behind the guy who is not hillary clinton. abc, anyone but clinton. you don't want two or three or four supreme court justices going far left liberal and then gigts to make his life and everyone that's trying to get re-elected's life miserable. >> someone else will step up to chair it. >> he's going to do it, let's be honest. but see if rubio is interested. >> you're will

i understand what paul ryan has to do. he is the speaker of the house of representatives and he has to limit the losses of his own members. that's number one. he's also the intellectual leader of the conservative movement. i think it's important for him to articulate the fact there are principles that we believe in, bedrock principles that we need to run on. you don't want two liberal democrats running against one another. he is in a ridiculously difficult position. this is a dilemma for him. >> you could argue that the voters are not with you and paul ryan who have the conservative agenda in many ways, a lot of what donald trump is saying is anat ma to traditional conservative policies, especially when it comes to the budget. >> sometimes you have principles that aren't necessarily popular. i understand that donald trump won this nomination. here in wisconsin, paul ryan still has the voters with him. he has about 79% approval rating in his own district. there are some bedrock principles we don't abandon simply because of

you support paul ryan? >> oh, absolutely not. i'm very disappointed in governor perry. i'm disappointed in rand paul. i'm disappointed in all the people who said -- they called him a pathological liar. they were right. they said all of these things they believed he was. now they're turning around and saying this is our best chance for freedom. >> the meeting goes next week, that will be interesting. thanks so much for being with us. alisyn. >>> the fbi will interview hillary clinton in the next few weeks, nearing a nine month investigation classified material on his private e-mail server as secretary of state and whether she knew that. cnn has learned the fbi has already interviewed several aides in clinton's inner circle. justice department pamela brown is live in washington with the latest. >> hi there, alisyn. several people in the inner circle have been brought in quietly to a room in the washington field office for the last few weeks, including clinton's long time confidant, huma abedin. she is one of

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some supporters on the hill reaching out to paul ryan. ben carson has spoken to paul ryan. donald trump has been saying and tweeting more optimistic things about the upcoming meeting. >> i think he's a good man. i really think, you know, probably we'll come out with something that's going to be good. i hope. otherwise i'll continue on the path i continue to be on. >> i don't really know him. i met him once in 2012. we had good conversation once in march. we as a leadership team are enjoying the fact we have a chance to meet with him. >> reporter: all of this could lay the ground work for the two coming out of this saying there is common ground. we want to reduce the deficit and debt. we want to cut taxes on middle class families. with donald trump there is always the possibility that it could end on a rocky fashion. that it could end in fireworks. we should get a better sense of that in a few hours. back to you. >> sara murray, thank you. >>> donald trump under fire this morning for refusing to promise to release his tax returns before the november election. early last year

paul ryan, i don't know what happened. lou: will the gop elites come to their senses, or do the rino tos really want to help hillary? executive ed door of "the weekly standard" fred barnes joins us next. it's a dream come true for harry potter fans, or at least this group of skydivers. they took out their brooms for a ride of a lifetime. ride of a lifetime. we h sfx: loud poorly played electric guitar that sounds awful seriously, awful but a lot better than last week ♪rock guitar music ♪we weren't born to follow shoshow me more like this.e. show me "previously watched." what's recommended for me. x1 makes it easy to find what you love. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinity. show show me more like this. s. show me "previously watched." what's recommended for me. x1 makes it easy to find what blows you away. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinit lou: senator john mccain is publicly supporting donald trump, but at a fundraiser behind closed doors mccain was, well, recently recorded saying tr

there are many in the same position as paul ryan. right now the wound is just too raw and they're not interested in making amends with trump. but if ryan can, perhaps they will look that model and say well okay. if the speaker was able to make it work with donald trump maybe i should take a second look. >> brianna, some trump supporters have said the speaker should not be the speaker if in the end he can't endorse the republican presidential nominee. what needs to be done right now? because you have spoken to a lot of folks out there to unite this party. >> and there's really in easy answer it that question. i think in the near term, i don't know if paul ryan can unify the republican party. i don't know if donald trump can unify the republican party. if there is one person who can, perhaps it is hillary clinton, right? when you think of all of these folks, what do they have in common? these supporters of say the paul ryan section of republicans or the supporters of donald trump. they don't like hillary clinton and maybe that's sort o

i think this is paul ryan seeing this is what the voters are seeing. >> is paul ryan saying donald trump understands public policy? we've been watching donald trump several times a day for a year, i have never once seen a donald trump who shows a command of public policy. >> by the way, lindsey graham said the same thing today. he said he was very surprised by the nuanced questions. >> can he please start showing that to the american people? where is this donald trump? >> some said i actually like the guy. here's the question in this vein. john boehner said that he didn't, he did support donald trump, if he becomes the nominee, he said he would support him, but he doesn't support some of his positions. so how can you support him if you don't support his positions? i don't understand that. >> you don't need someone who is a litmus test for everything you ever believed in. and john boehner recognizes, i might not agree with him on some policies, but the principles. >> but isn't that what really matters? is the policies and not the person? this person represents these particular policies? t

paul ryan said he barely knows donald trump. but donald trump showed today he is willing to work on that. you saw him pick up the endorsement today of senator orrin hatch. hatch was effusive about donald trump today. and then we learned trump had spoken by phone with senator lindsey graham. that goes to show you that miracles can happen in washington. and donald trump held a meeting that just about all washington insiders covet, a sitdown with former secretary of state james baker, a trusted adviser of the bush family and it does not get more washington than that, don. >> thank you, jim. appreciate it. >> the gop remains divided over donald trump. jan brewer of arizona has endorsed department and bill standard. governor brewer, let's listen to speaker ryan today after the meeting. here he is. >> i was very encouraged with what i heard from donald trump today. i do believe that we are now planting the seeds to get ourselves unified, to bridge the gaps and differences and so from here we're going to go deeper into the policy areas

as you said, i mean, paul ryan, the paul ryan i know is very thoughtful, careful, cautious. he's serious. he's also a fun guy and takes the stuff seriously. this is his life. he's above all a committed public servant. and he has ashooed celebrity at every turn and i think the trump campaign is against everything paul ryan has done over the past decade or two of his career so that's why you hear that kind of caution. you know, we're planting the seeds to bridge the gap to get closer to being unified. paul ryan's job first and foremost to protect the health of the house and so i'm sure during that meeting he, you know, he sat down with donald trump and picture him very clearly saying, look, i get it. you're doing what you got to do. it's been very successful. congratulations. but let me explain to you some of the challenges that we're having in the house. and to, you know, to sort of educate, educate donald trump. he doesn't have a lot of political experience. any actually. >> who do you think needs who more? bill, i promise i'm coming to you. s.e. more of a paul ryan needs do

i need paul ryan's help. had he done that, would have served that ball to paul ryan's court and he would have to help donald trump bring the party together. now it looks like we're at war. >> kayleigh, do you see, paul ryan seems to want donald trump to say publicly or not donald trump's positions. >> that's exactly right. it would have been against his brand to do what mark is suggesting, if he were to come out in a situation where you have something unprecedented, speaker of the house coming against the nominee, cow tow to that, wouldn't make sense. mccain had many points, he opposed bush tax cuts, he was still on board. mitt romney had the blueprint in massachusetts, it is nonsensical. people say it is about defending conservative values. that's a cover and front for the never trump movement. if that's what it were about, they would have been against mccain and romney. >> a lot of us were not happy with mccain or with mitt romney, but they were at least republican enough for us. there are a couple of issue

that's where paul ryan is. heals at heart a policy wonk. >> what are the issues, policies you like of donald trump that you've seen so far? >> i think we're going to see some conservative motion in the country. and the thing i'm really most excited about is donald trump is a deal maker. i spent six years in congress with a my way or the highway president. i want a dealmaker who will come in and get some stuff done and i think that's what the american people want. they're tired of gridlock in washington. >> in terms of what donald trump's policies are, and he's elaborated a number on his way to this nomination, which are the ones you are most enthusiastic about or support? >> i think one of the things that came out of the meeting is he supports deregulation and getting the government out of people's hair. i think he's also strong on border security. we disagree on some of the details. but as a texan i see the real damage that happens, both on a human level and on a crime level, as a result of a wide-open border.

>> you're talking about paul ryan? lou: yes. >> paul ryan has that problem too, he has problem with the right flank, the conservative wing of the conservative party. he has problem built-in without donald trump. donald trump comes along and he's in the middle of two great tectonic forces that are colliding inside of the political party and paul ryan is the highest-ranking setting aside the presumptive nominee the highest-ranking nominee in the country. lou: is that the problem? >> it's a power play, of course it is, lou. lou: suddenly paul ryan understands that donald trump is the boss? >> absolutely. lou: is that really the problem? >> absolutely, it was gracious of mr. trump to defer to paul ryan as the person in charge of the gop and everyone in america knows that's not true. certainly this is trump's party, and i think that absolutely that is a tough pill for the gop establishment to swallow. i think reince priebus is having a tough time but ultimately i believe the gop will get in line. it will not serve to stay d

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paul ryan mentioned lincoln and reagan. hundreds of years after president leaves office, his legacy defines the party and the country. >> david frum, senior editor with the atlantic. thanks for the time. >> thank you. >>> coming up -- how abouting th this. connie chung. the legendary anchor and reporter going to talk about the state of politics today. she had a famous interview over 25 years ago who now just so happens to be the presumptive republican nominee for president. and speaking of donald trump, he's begun to compile a short list of potential vice presidential candidates. a candidate that just might be on that list is going to join me next. thope to see you again soon.. whoa, whoa, i got this. just gotta get the check. almost there. i can't reach it. if you have alligator arms, you avoid picking up the check. what? it's what you do. i got this. thanks, dennis! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. growwwlph. it's what you do. oh that is good crispy duck. or ifno matter wh

paul ryan can't. paul ryan is sort of an ideological, economic free-market guy. he does not have a lot of room to -- trump is not wed to any of his policies. mark: i think they will have to agree to disagree on immigration. on entitlement reform, i think trump can move. if ryan can get trump to say, we are going to preserve these programs for current beneficiaries and save them for future generations. i think trump can make that switch. trump, but i think for we will be able to know more about his appetite for doing something that is very unpopular. his sort of comfort zone is doing what he thinks his popular base wants to hear. they do not want to hear that they will get less when it comes to entitlement. mark: it is not going to be less. it is just going to be different. the big thing is tax reform. that is what ryan wants to do. andp template -- change it ryan will be happy. nicolle: so, all this said, do you think that ryan endorsement is either imminent or probable? or? mark: i do not know exactly how he is going to do it. my hunch and talking to one of his

>> paul ryan brought the charts out. they look at the three big factors. interest payments are huge. third you have defense. >> people segment that. they want to make sure there's stability there. they look at the mandatory spending components and what needs to be done for reworking medicaid and the delivery systems on it and the mandatory spending. they really want that address because they see a lot of waste, fraud and abuse in those systems. they're going to insist we do that plus they want these federal agencies dealt with because they are too bureaucratic. >> donald trump's past comments will come up again over next six months. we know that. earlier this year an anti-trump super pac put out this ad quoting him this way. let's watch. >> bimbo. >> dog. >> fat pig. >> real quotes from donald trump about women. >> a person who is flat chested is hard to be a ten. >> i'd look her right in that fat, ugly face of her pps. >> look at that face. >> she had the height. she had the beauty. she was crazy, but these are minor details. >> i like kids. i mean, i won

mark: donald trump on the stump has used paul lyons as -- paul rayn as --paul ryan as a laugh line. will he continue to do that? barry: -- he's not going to do that. mark: a guy he just hung out with? know. i mean, you suddenly these are all new brand new conservatives who are very concerned about the conservative legacy. it's laughable. dan: i agree with you that it is laughable that all -- i think it is a fair critique that washington republicans have not been serious about developing a real conservative governing agenda. the idea that donald trump is the antidote to that, who's never been embraced or engaged in or advocated for conservative idea in his life? barry: let me tie something. policy is important. how we talk about them, they are far more important -- let me tell you something. that is where we really have failed. the reason we get 40 5% and a presidential race is because nobody things we even care let alone listen. a the reason we get 45% in presidential race. mark: great discussion. when we come back, our rapidfire rendition of mr. trump goes to washington. if you are

when a guy like paul ryan who -- i voted for paul ryan, i'm a paul ryan supporter for speaker. but paul ryan was a think tank guy, he was a staffer here in d.c. then he ran for congress and he's been in d.c. a long time. nothing wrong with that in terms of -- but he's a policy guy, too. so i don't think that trump needs him necessarily. >> i'm going to talk later on in the show who ever thought paul ryan would be called establishment. he was like 110% conservative. more on that later but congressman hunter, thank you. >>> meantime, hillary clinton is using the discord among republicans to her advantage. trying to her. her camp pointing out the housing out the house speaker is not against -- >> is it safe to say it didn't take the collin camp long to react to today's big trump/ryan meeting? >> it is pretty apparent clinton's team in brooklyn was waiting for the speaker's news conference. when they did not hear a formal endorseme endorsement, the clinton campaign pounced saying, "donald trump has proven himself to be a loose cannon whose hateful language and dangerous policies wi

appeal toobably his friend paul ryan. paul ryan may endorse and be even more powerful. think ryan is uncomfortable with trump on many levels. i'm not sure this is going to be smooth. john: i have zero doubt. it isbody links -- blinks going to be donald trump read that response, he seemed to be impetuous. if you think of the ways when he has decided to go out and go after people in the past, that was relatively restrained. the stuff today was relatively restrained. katrina pearson went a little out of her seat. trump has been modulated in terms of how intensely he has attacked. anyway he wants to pivot . if he is going to be blinking it's on his side. mark: i agree. john: i think that is where it is going to come if there is blinking. mark: if you think of the resistance, he has become in a surprise physician. -- position. he got dick cheney, symbolic. members of congress. he did not get the governor of illinois. trump has to prove he can win a general election. they have reservations of his his positions. if the nominee can beat hillary clinton that will get people on b

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ryan republican, and not everybody has to be equally enthusiastic about the nominee. >> and paul ryan has said that there is plenty of room within the party for the policy disputes. and they have of course, sparred on trade, immigration, and whole host of issues, and does today's meeting get to the meat of it or what standards will the gop bear going into the election? >> well, i think that the meeting doesn't serve much of a purpose at all except to confirm that the establishment party does not like trump. when the speaker imka out to say that he did not have a endorse amount this time, and what does that serve? and barring the indictment by the justice department, hillary clinton is going to be the nominee this fall, and the clinton machine is not to be underestimated, and so now is time for the republican party to get behind the nominee. and is paul ryan going to say that i will hold off on the endorsement for a couple of weeks to grudgingly come to it, and all that is does is to establish that the republican wing is not listen ing ing to t voters. >> and other factions within the