was going to the jeb bush versus hillary clinton. two giant professional campaigns with $100 million or more, $100 million for the superpac. they knew how to do it, here are the demographics, we will put those groups together and it will be a victory. jeb bush failed so quickly as i dynastic candidate. he struggled on the stump, even though he did everything in theory that you could ever want in terms of name recognition. people knew his name, and he failed. and the clinton people that the process that would not matter to them later on. and they were surprised that bernie sanders was so strong. and they wrote him off as somebody who was on the french. -- on the fringe. when you're dealing with capitol hill, there is a sense that you have people on the edges that do not matter. sometimes they hold stuff up, but they are never the people running the country. i think the clinton campaign treated bernie sanders a lot like that. i covered him for four months. i felt like i was marooned on an island. no one seemed to be paying attention. we were looking at the day after the michigan primar

clinton campaign in particular completely missed. when we started out, it was going to the jeb bush versus hillary clinton. two giant professional campaigns $100$100 million or more, million for the superpac. they knew how to do it, here are the demographics, we will put those groups together and it will be a victory. jeb bush failed so quickly as i dynastic candidate. he struggled on the stump, even though he did everything in theory that you could ever want in terms of name recognition. mixedd bag, but still, people knew his name, and he failed. and the clinton people that the process that would not matter to them later on. and they were surprised that bernie sanders was so strong. and they wrote him off as somebody who was on the french. -- on the fringe. when you're dealing with capitol hill, there is a sense that you have people on the edges that do not matter. sometimes they hold stuff up, but they are never the people running the country. i think the clinton campaign treated bernie sanders a lot like that. i covered him for four months. i felt like i was marooned on an island. no on

interview you and i recall during the primaries with jeb bush -- win jeb bush talked to us frequently, the answer is "no " because he was behaving like the front runners who did not have to speak to the media. the thing that donald trump did would served to his advantage and this is not to say the press did not do things that were wrong, but he put himself in -- out there and talk to people. but now, donald trump has not had a press conference since i july and there was a guy who would talk to the press anytime all the time. things shift and now hillary clinton is talking to the press more. >> i would respectfully disagree. i think you could have been every other candidate in fusions -- andum kenesaw and many of them would not have gotten coverage. i think this was about ratings and allowing him to do phone in. you could not phone in these shows before. >> we did not allow him to phone in. gloria: then hillary clinton started to phone in. charlie: they were allowing her because they were allowing him. isid: if hillary clinton elected what role will bill clinton have? >> the

sentiment comes from the governor of florida at the time was his brother, jeb bush. not only did the bush family have a lot of clout in florida, the republican party was quite powerful and there was some sentiment, usually among democrats, but some republicans that the recount process was not handled well. and the republicans within the state and the bush campaign were essentially in florida in 2000 trying to stop the recount. they were trying to delay and obstruct and they realized the longer they did, the closer they would get to the deadline where decision had to be made. that left a bad taste in the mouth of many americans in both parties that it was not handled well. added to that was the supreme aurt intervening act making decision in december to stop the recount. there were many people, mostly democrats, but some republicans, who thought it was not the right way to handle this. some of that feeling continues to linger. there are some doubt argue that it was unfairly handled. very different that the entire political process nationally is rigged, which is hard in our system. it

in. -- put pelosi in. they put all their money on jeb bush and jeb bush is another bush. i worked for the bushes to get elected. i worked for mccain to get elected. i'm now telling myself i am not even a republican. you don't work for me. we have lost our insurance. after scrambled to get insurance -- to get insurance. there is not enough money. i have a daughter who's husband has excellent insurance. their insurance is so bad. are over $3000 out-of-pocket for surgery on her eyes. over $3000 out-of-pocket for surgery on her eyes. they have forgotten the people. they're looking at more money. host: thank you so much forgiveness to call. alabama, hi there. what is the closest city to where you live? caller: probably tuscaloosa. host: tell us about the political makeup of your town. caller: i live in a very small town center in west alabama. -- centered in west alabama. the population is around 500. theoutlook here in terms of vote in the presidential election, it went along the party lines. the democrats went to the corner and the republicans went to their corner. mr. trump probably

jargon, which is immigration. now, you were a supporter of jeb bush, and you supported trump when he triumphed in the primary process. you tweaked him on twitter for softening his immigration stance in august. let's talk about the politics of that, and where you see a possible consensus. mr. cantor: well -- mr. ellis: long road, isn't it? mr. cantor: is certainly played a role in my primary loss. we were trying to do something to move the needle, and if any of you recall following it, as leader i wanted to try to address the kids, because i never believed that our country has the policy or law that allows us to hold kids liable for illegal acts of their parents. and just from a pure legal standpoint, if you don't even want to get to the human aspect, let's see if we can move that way. then again, that was too up the middle because both sides got upset because it was standalone, not comprehensive, and it was considered amnesty from my side in many instances. so, look, i think short of the first initial request for authorization to build that wall, and the money, you know, i guess, the

time was his brother, jeb bush, and so not only did the bush family have a lot of clout in florida but the rrp party was quite powerful and so there was some sentiment that's usually among democrats but some republicans as well that the whole recount process was not handled well. and that the republicans within the state and at the bush campaign were essentially in florida in 2000 trying to stop the recount. they were trying to delay. they were trying to obstruct and they realized that the longer they did that the closer they would get to the deadline where a decision had to be made. and that left a bad taste in the mouth of many americans and, again, in both parties that it wasn't handled well. and added to that was the supreme court intervening and making a decision in december to stop the recount. there were many people, again, mostly democrats but some republicans who thought that was not the right way to handle this. so some of that feeling continues to linger, and there are some who argue that it was unfairly handled. again, very different than the idea that somehow the entir

governor of florida at the time was his brother, jeb bush. not only did the bush family have a lot of clout in florida, the republican party was quite powerful and there was some sentiment, usually among democrats, but some republicans that the recount process was not handled well. and the republicans within the state and the bush campaign were essentially in florida in 2000 trying to stop the recount. they were trying to delay and obstruct and they realized the longer they did, the closer they would get to the deadline where decision had to be made. that left a bad taste in the mouth of many americans in both parties that it was not handled well. added to that was the supreme aurt intervening act making decision in december to stop the recount. there were many people, mostly democrats, but some republicans, who thought it was not the right way to handle this. some of that feeling continues to linger. there are some doubt argue that it was unfairly handled. very different that the entire political process nationally is rigged, which is hard in our system. it is so fragmented. this is

negatives? they were brought out in the general election campaign. >> to me, jeb bush, marco rubio, and even chris christie, there was no reason to do this, because they were fishing in a different pond of voters. -- different pond of voters than donald trump was. the question in my mind is, why didn't ted cruz, who was fishing in the same pond for the same group of voters -- why weren't they dishing all this stuff out? not do it personally, but dishing it out to the news media when he would've been the beneficiary of donald trump collapsing. those people were not going to go to jeb bush or marco rubio or john kasich or chris christie. david: don't you think the common problem is they all failed to take donald trump seriously enough early enough, and they thought they could get away and he would collapse on his own? gloria: they did not want to alienate the donald trump supporters. charlie: by march, april -- for me, the turning point was just before the primary, when ted cruz still had a real chance of beating him. and why they did not drop the hammer -- i do not think they would have

years. push --chair for jet jeb bush. i thought he would be the candidate and win the election. i was wrong, as well. had anonal story, i unscheduled departure from chapel hill and was defeated in the primary by an unknown. and frankly, that unknown was -- supported by the democratic party. one third of my primary election was by crossover votes because that day there was no democratic primary. virginia allows for the crossover vote. i was as surprised as any. beginning ofs the what we saw manifest itself in this election. huge was and still is a swath of people in this country that feel anxiety and are fed up. they are fed up in a variety of ways. i know you have heard about the mainstream media and people always being told they are wrong. but i think it goes back to the economics, and the lack of opportunity. my party did not get that, either. i have always said, we have had difficulty trying to connect the policies of a free trade, the policies of the new 21st century, digital economy. how does that benefit a lot of people out there who just do not have the skills necessary to meet

certified by the state executive. overnor jeb bush would have in fact certified the final result brother gore for his said the bush and some supreme court needed to step in, in the first place. because after 1876, 1876 people were so upset by the vision of the supreme court tie-breaking ng vote they set out this complicated procedure for choosing between competing slates. host: jana in washington, d.c. here on the democratic line. jeffrey rosen talking about the electoral college. hi, jana. caller: hi. hi, c-span, good morning. quick comment and quick question. as washingtonian and democrat, leaning, re probably if you are republican in washington, d.c., probably your because of not sure, we were going -- do have tateship we're voting for this year. do we convert the district of columbia into a state. that, most votes will go democrat, i think, in the college, because it seems to be that the three that is pretty much it. don't at will change, we know. and the other thing, the question is, most of the polls now, they have very ittle electoral college or electoral data, but then i

, we can tell lots of lives lost but there is no doubt it is geared up for a republican. jeb bush would be a great president for right now. did know that america is a world leader. they would embrace it and try to help others understand this is the way to live. it is a cycle and a fortunate one. i pray that our lawmakers understand what a circumstance that has occurred. i hope they embrace it. host: reaction on twitter. donna said he was under pressure despite free health care. urban dwellers, said the caller is right about the white cubans being arrogant, i work with them and they are prejudiced against white people. vivian says americans can be hypocrites, we jail more people that castro ever dreamed of. one more call, we will return to this topic later in our program. jason and bellerose, new york, republican line. caller: i want to remind everybody that at the beginning of the gulf war, fidel castro and saddam hussein and some of the other communist leaders in , it wasd met in hanoi never publicized in the press here but it was publicized overseas, you could read it on the wire serv

the election and if i was pick a candidate, i bernie te to jeb bush, kasich., it would be better than who the people voted. of est, of course it is one the rights here in the united donald trump think is now the president and there will change at that. to giveink it is better him a chance and i have a if i can get away from subject. the united states is the most powerful country in the world one, absolutely no one an hurt the united states, except its american people start o do that to their country and division is the way to do it. is very appening here similar, very similar what to middle happening in the east and the dictatorship and i used to live, i hope .eople can see that turning people against each damage and hurt and eventually everyone. host: ali from morton, virginia. ne member of congress says congress comes in for lame duck ongress, she announced change in plan, representative knowle, for governor of south dakota. she was re-elected last week to term, she will run in 2018. she said in a video she looked pursuing tax reform, farm bill and replacing bamacare during the firs