so the drone target in pakistan cannot operate without pakistan input. pakistanis own airbase and they have to conflict the airspace with civilian and military drone travel. the drone target that we are selected through intelligence led operations where we knew the actual identity of the individuals and what they were. there is no evidence that they are preponderant lee killing civilians. why, how do we know this? anyone know how we know this or we don't know this? the fact that we don't know this because pakistan has declared, is a legal black hole. journalists can't go there and it's very difficult, with great difficulty canthey send a stringer there . however, what we do know is that even the dbi j project has had to concede that we can't simply reject drones because they're killing disproportionate civilians. that's simply not true. comparing them to conventional airstrikes is what we should be comparing them to. if we're going to compare them to potential airstrikes, by comparison, we should only be using drones because they are sympathizers but tal

pakistan. where despite its violent birth, the nation is celebrating independence day. we'll also be speaking to pakistan's high commissioner to the uk. the other main stories on bbc news at five... the white house defends president trump after he failed to clearly denounce white supremacist protestors in virginia. his vice president is more explicit. we have no tolerance for hate and violence. from white supremacists, neo—nazis on the kkk. hundreds of people are feared dead and others remain trapped after a mudslide on the outskirts of sierra leone's capital, freetown. a 50% rise in the last year in the number of airline passengers arrested on suspicion of being drunk at british airports or on flights. and no more bongs for a while — big ben will fall silent next week for nearly four years because of urgent repair work. it's five o'clock. our main story... this week, india and pakistan mark 70 years of independence from britain — independence which created two states, but also a bloodbat

just deal with pakistan -- deal with pakistan. other groups that pose a threat to the region and beyond. pakistan has much to gain from partnering with our effort in afghanistan. it has much to lose i continuing to harbor criminals -- by continuing to harbor criminals and terrorists. in the past, pakistan has been a valued harner. our militaries have worked together against common enemies. the pakistani people have suffered greatly from terrorism and extremism pete we recognize those contributions -- and extremism. we recognize those conservations . pakistan has a sheltered the same organizations that try to kill our people. we have been paying pakistan dollars, at the same time they are housing the very terrorists that we are fighting. that will have to change. that will change immediately. no partnership can survive a countries harboring of the lipton's and terrorists who target u.s. service members and officials. this time for pakistan to demonstrate its commitment to civilization, order and to peace. host: that is the presiden

and on pakistan, did you articulate to pakistan the consequences of their actions? whether it be sanctions, dropping their nonnato ally status? what exactly have you communicated or do you plan to communicate? >> well, i had a good call with the prime minister of pakistan yesterday afternoon. to give them a bit of a forewarning of what they were going to hear in the president's speech. also, we did touch on the points that i have made to you today. we are going to be engaging with them in a very serious and thorough way as to our expectations and the conditions that go with that. all those things you just listed are on the table for discussion if, in fact, they're unwilling to change their posture or change their approach to how they're dealing with the numerous terrorist organizations that find pakistan. it is in pakistan's interest to take those actions. when we say no preconditions on the talks, i think what we are saying is, look, the government of afghanistan and the taliban representatives need to sit down and sort this out. it's not for the u.s. to tell them

again, why pakistan is very important, pakistan can facilitate much of that discussion. there are other regional players to which this particular this unstable situation in afghanistan are important. we have had discussions with the chinese about a role they might be up to play. we have had discussions with the russians about the role they could play if they choose to. certainly, players in the gulf are interested in seeing this area in afghanistan stabilized, as well. so there are a lot of partners on the periphery that i think will have important roles they can play. ultimately, comes down to the afghan government and the taliban representatives. you.inank going back to pakistan, officials, for quite sometime, democratic and republican administrations, have tried to get the government to stop giving safe haven to the terrorist group. what leverage do you think you have? sec. tillerson: we have some leverage that has been as guest in terms of aid. their status as a non-nato alliance partner -- all of that can be put on the table. at the end of the day, pakistan has to d

>> it is time for pakistan to demonstrate its commitment to civilization, order, and to peace. >> pakistan is big, it's got 200 million people. it's also got more than 100 operational nuclear weapons. pakistan is fiercely protective of its interests in neighborhoods afghanistan, and it's perpetually on a hair trigger standoff with india. the president said it should get way more involved in afghanistan. after he said "t" that pakistan needs to demon its commitment to civilization. what does pakistan do these days when it's mad? and did anybody in u.s. government make preparations for that before the president said what he just said to them tonight. third question, the president for years insisted that we have to get out of afghanistan immediately. the afghan war has to end right now, yesterday, just do it, just get out. well, tonight in his big afghan war speech, he said he did you notice want to do that and instead he thinks we should learn the lesson of what he called the hasty and mistaken decision to leave iraq too soon. >> as we know, in 2011 america hastily and mistakenly withdrew fr

mohammad ali jinnah, pakistan's first governor general. as the british left colonial india, jinnah was desperate to secure the rights of the muslim population. the answer was a separate state, pakistan. our objective should be, peace within and peace without. but peace seems often to have eluded this nation, both within and without. poverty and security remain major issues and the debate over the role of islam rages on. a powerful message of inclusion... for this leading politician, jinnah‘s vision was for a secular pakistan, one that hasn't been fulfilled. i think mrjinnah would still be looking at moving us forward if he were here today. he made it very clear, it tolerated all religions, but we haven't been exactly the epitome of total inclusion that he sought. that's because others see islam as central to jinnah‘s vision. the constitution, they say, is islamic in nature and successive governments have failed to implement it. what otherwise was the point they ask of creating pakistan? jinnah rebelled and struggled against secularism.

mohammad ali jinnah, pakistan's first governor general. as the british left colonial india, jinnah was desperate to secure the rights of the muslim population. the answer was a separate state, pakistan. our objective should be peace within and peace without. but peace seems often to have eluded this nation, both within and without. poverty and security remain major issues and the debate over the role of islam rages on. a powerful message of inclusion... for this leading politician, jinnah's vision was for a secular pakistan, one that hasn't been fulfilled. i think mrjinnah would still be looking at moving us forward if he were here today. he made it very clear, it tolerated all religions, but we haven't been exactly the epitome of total inclusion that he sought. that's because others see islam as central to jinnah's vision. the constitution, they say, is islamic in nature and successive governments have failed to implement it. what otherwise was the point they ask of creating pakistan? translation: jinnah rebelled and struggled against sec

it's going to really create issues with pakistan and but what's ironic is that pakistan they created the afghan taliban they're not going to go again so they get there is a pakistan taliban which is trying to overthrow the pakistani government but this is different in afghanistan and i would i would also point out that it in night not mentioning troop levels it could imply more. along with conner insurgency the whole idea is to give the whole idea is to give the the afghan military the proper training so they ultimately can go it alone now talking about hunting the terrorists i'd like to bring in now former cia agent jack rice jack you heard what the president had to say he said that that the u.s. is no longer going to take part in nation building in afghanistan that he said verbatim we are now there to kill terrorists how are we going to do that without involving pakistan and now he has also brought in india. well you know what that's all well and good to talk tough but here's the problem if you have a country and a government specifically with the afghan government that is frequent

and the money is important to pakistan, because pakistan is a hard currently poor country, and pakistan's government does not raise enough taxes. so for that reason --. >> woodruff: i'm sorry. >> yeah. >> woodruff: i have to interrupt because i want to give miss miller some time to speak, as well. i think bottom line here is is there leverage the united states has to get pakistan to close that border? >> there is some leverage. look, the border can't be closed. it's a very porous border. it's very difficult territory. so the idea of literally closing the border is an impossibility. but certainly there's much more that the pakistanis could do to close down the sanctuaries that taliban leadership in particular enjoy in pakistan. but, you know, it's not that there's no leverage on the pakistanis. but the pakistanis are not going to change their perception of their own national security interests based only on american pressure. there has to be something that attracts the pakistanis to cooperate in a positive way with the united states. >> woodruff: do you see that as part of what the preside

two he stoke about pakistan. something has to change in pakistan here, has a points, because some of these networks have support based, does not mean that government of pakistan itself is one that is launching them but tolerating some of them. another point was india, first time, we hear in washington, that india need to play a role, economic, noneconomic we'll see. >> one not clear is actual measure am of ho am of how he wn afghanistan, seem that president said that if we weaken taliban to a point they may come to government, that is something that would be debated, and last point, not mention, what do we did about idea on thology, if we defeat. we have network will bring them back. that needs a political dimension, it seems that president has been told we're not building but what about countering the idead oology. neil: who do you trust in this region. >> i think you trust the -- you have to trust in human nature. i mean is. afghanistan is very difficult. afghanistan is you have capital of kabul and a number of

that's pressuring pakistan one of their enemies historically, puts pressure on pakistan. the speech had parts where he demanded other countries pay more saying the days of constructing democracies in faraway lands are over and saying our commitment is not unlimited. our support is not a blank check. >> in many ways a trump version of the war in afghanistan. he said we will not write a blank check forever. in fact we won't tell you how long we'll be there for or how many troops will be on the ground but we're there to kilter ri -- kill terrorists. he said we're no longer going to nation build. we know henry mcmaster made the argument to him it can be a westernized country once again but that doesn't seem to be where the president comes down on this. it's a very presidential trump version of the input he has received. ? >> as the >> as the speech was happening i was getting texts from service members saying this is the message they wanted to hear the pride and courage and commitment to let them do their job. let's get reaction to the president's address. fox news military a

again, why pakistan is so important. pakistan can facilitate much of that discussion. there are other reasonable players to which this particular and this unstable situation in afghanistan are important. live had discussions with the chinese about the world they might be able to light. with -- wescussions have had discussions with others. certainly, other nations in the gulf, gcc members, are interested in seeing this particular area in afghanistan stabilized as well. so there are players on the periphery who have important roles to play. ultimately, it comes down to the afghan government and the taliban representatives. >> thank you mr. secretary. going back to pakistan, quite some time democrat in public and administrations have tried to get the government to stop it, stop giving safe haven to terrorist groups. what leverage do you think you have? secretary tillerson: obviously, we have some leverage that has been discussed in terms of aid and military assistance. their status as a non-nato alliance partner. all of that can be put on the table but you know at the end

and he created pakistan. and do you think mohammed jinnah would be happy with pakistan as it is today? he would be happy, he would be really happy seeing pakistan today progressing every day, every second. on this 70th anniversary of independence, the country is doing very well and it is flourishing day by day. and i hope it will get more prosperous day by day. and mansour, do you think that mohammed jinnah would be happy with pakistan as it is today? basically he had seen the basic needs of the people, and they are not being fulfilled right now. much of the problem lies in religion. because people nowadays, they're not tolerant. they are too emotional. crowds come tojinnah‘s mausoleum to pay their respects. the country he founded was rocked again last month when the prime minister was forced to resign over corruption charges. finding political stability remains one of pakistan's many challenges. in a moment we can hear from our india correspondent sanjoy majumder in delhi — but first scunder kermani is o

people would not expect to see something like this in pakistan. is this what pakistan is like? most of pakistan is like this. all the negative aspects of that are shown in the media. we're not like that. we have families who come out and enjoy their lives. we're not intimidated by any wrong activities or terrorist activities. this could not be more different from the image most people get when you think of pakistan. we are watching two beat boxers perform to an audience full of young people eating pizza and enjoying life waiting for a rap group to come on. i only knowjustin bieber. you only knowjustin bieber? yes. i am a very great fan. you are a belieber? i am a belieber. # touch me like you do. # what are you waiting for? that was good. well done. thank you. soon ali and his band arrives. are you nervous? i am always nervous. i have done hundreds of shows but i still get nervous before a show. before he went on stage i decided to ask why he puts himself through all of this. by the end of the show i go home and i go like, great, i made them dance, and i made them think as well

pakistan. —— a regional approach. pakistan have their own issues that they must work through. but there are areas where perhaps even india can take some steps on issues with pakistan to improve stability within pakistan to improve stability within pakistan and removed some of the reasons why they deal with these u nsta ble reasons why they deal with these unstable elements inside their own country. other regional players have strong interest in pakistan, china. having a stable and secure future pakistan is in a lot of our interests. they are nuclear power, we have concerns about their weapons, the security of their weapons, the security of their weapons, there are many areas in which we believe we should be having very productive dialogue that serves both of our interests and regional interests as well. so again this is not a situation where the us is saying it is just a thank you, what our approach is to bring these regional players aren‘t all other interests into this effort. much as we have done with north korea, there isa we have done with north korea, there is a global

political turmoil in pakistan. after the dramatic resignation of nawaz sharif, an interim prime minster is due to be chosen. i'm babita sharma in london. also in the programme: los angeles strikes a deal to host the summer olympics in 2028, paving the way for paris to put on the games in 202a. this chinese woman is heading overseas to get treatment to freeze her eggs, a procedure she's not allowed at home. we'll have her story. live from our studios in singapore and londond, you're watching bbc world news. it's newsday. good morning. it's 8am in singapore, 1am in london and 8pm in washington where president trump's newly appointed communications director, anthony scaramucci, has been fired. he'd been in the job just ten days. it's being reported that president trump decided he should go, after a request byjohn kelly, who was sworn in on monday, as the president's new chief of staff. a former four star general, it's hoped mr kelly will bring "discipline and strength," to a white house seemingly in chaos. our north a

going back to pakistan. democratic and republican administrations have tried to get the government to stop giving safe havens to the terrorist groups. what leverage do you think you have? >> obviously we have some leverage that's been discussed in terms of the amount of aid and military systems we give them. their statuses as nonnato alliance partner, all of that can be put on the table. at the end of the day, pakistan has to decide what is in pakistan's best long term interest from a security standpoint for themselves, and for their people. quite frankly as i evaluate pakistan's current situation, if i were the pack stan government, i would have growing concerns about the strength of the taliban. and other organizations inside the taliban. at some point they become a real threat to the stability of the pakistani government itself. i think they need to be thinking about what is in their best long term interest and how can we work with them to achieve a safer more stable pakistan in the next decades to come a

pakistan, long live pakistan, then the indian army got annoyed and started firing. one of the bullets whizzed behind my ear. it nearly touched my ear, i would have been dead if it had been in my skull, but god saved me. meanwhile malkit‘s father and brother had the luckiest of escapes when the murderous mob prevented them from getting on their train. my father and my brother were intending to catch that train and they missed that train, but that train has all been murdered, nobody escapes from that train. we think thank god, thank god that they weren't on that, but we were very sorry for the people and that were murdered, very about that. the asad on his final destination brought more heartache. —— for asad, his final destination brought more heartache. we got off on that platform and we slept, we were so tired. in the morning one of my sisters was found dead. we had nowhere to go, no money, no house, nojob, nothing. seven decades later, both men have had ample time to reflect on whether their sacrifice is well worthwhile. and, like the border itself, partitio

pakistan relations let's go now to former cia agent jack rice jeff good to see you again so pakistan's top officials are now accusing president trump of using them as scapegoats on afghanistan is there any merit to that. yes of course i mean the americans are failing in afghanistan and let's be clear about this issue you can talk to the pentagon you can talk to his national security people and you can look at where the united states is the taliban is more successful now that any time since nine eleven we have seen that they have increased their control of afghanistan by some fifteen percent within the last year alone and so to somehow assume that this is a pakistani problem and not an american slash afghan problem i think is foolish and islam is also rejecting the notion that they harbor terrorists and militants who battle u.s. forces in afghanistan but we also know that osama bin ladin was found almost in plain sight there so how can they make such a projection. well and again there is that piece of this too is that there is something to what it is that the president is saying the pak

of reaction out of pakistan that america wants. 0ne, threatening pakistan, and the other thing is saying that india will have more of a role in afghanistan. those are the two things thatjust don't go down well in islamabad because ultimately what pakistan wants in that region is an afghanistan that is on its side ultimately when the americans leave, and so there are many that feel pakistan made the bet that at the end of it all the taliban would be the strongest force and that's why, to some extent at least, although they will never admit that they're doing that, that's why there's the sense pakistan has been supporting the afghan taliban. if you say to pakistan, "well, we're going to give india a bigger role in afghanistan if you also threaten pakistan," as i say, it's not always achieved the goal is america wanted. let's take a look at some of the other stories making the news. the iraqi army says it is advancing on the town of tal afar, the latest stage of a major offensive against the islamic state group. it says it has taken a number of villages on the outskirts of the town. the mil

the father of the nation and he created pakistan. do you think muhammad jinnah would be happy with pakistan as it is today? he would be happy. he would be really happy. pakistan is progressing every day, every second. on this 70th anniversary of independence, the country has grown very well and it is flourishing day by day and i hope it will prosper day by day. do you think that's muhammad jinnah would be happy with pakistan as it is today? not that much. basically he would see the basic needs of the people are not fulfilling right now. much of the problem now is in the religion because people nowadays, they are not tolerant and they are too much emotional. crowds come to muhammad jinnah mausoleum to pay their

two he stoke about pakistan. something has to change in pakistan here, has a points, because some of these networks have support based, does not mean that government of pakistan itself is one that is launching them but tolerating some of them. another point was india, first time, we hear in washington, that india need to play a role, economic, noneconomic we'll see. >> one not clear is actual measure am of ho am of how he wn afghanistan, seem that president said that if we weaken taliban to a point they may come to government, that is something that would be debated, and last point, not mention, what do we did about idea on thology, if we defeat. we have network will bring them back. that needs a political dimension, it seems that president has been told we're not building but what about countering the idead oology. neil: who do you trust in this region. >> i think you trust the -- you have to trust in human nature. i mean is. afghanistan is very difficult. afghanistan is you have capital of kabul and a number of

in afghanistan and pakistan, america's interests are clear. the resurgence of safe havens that enable terrorists that threaten america. weaponsprevent nuclear and materials from coming into the hands of terrorist and being used against us or anywhere in the world, for that matter. that to prosecute this war, we will learn from history as a result of our comprehensive review, american strategy in afghanistan and south asia will change to medically in the following ways. a core pillar of our new strategy is a shift from a time-based approach to one based on conditions. i have said it many times how it is for the united states to announce in the hands the dates we intend to begin or end military options. we will not talk about numbers of troops or our plans for further military activities. conditions on the ground, not arbitrary timetables, will guide our strategy from now on. america's enemies must never know our plans or believe they can wait us out. i will not say when were going to attack, but attack we will hear it another fundamental pillar

|j pursue terrorists in pakistan?” don't think that will happen unless there is clear evidence of an eminent terror threat. the significant amount of money the united states gives to pakistan for security assistance in economic aid, that will now be conditional upon progress on their side to clean up the haqqani network, clean up some of the other challenges we have seen coming from afghanistan. and what would afghanistan make of the idea of india becoming more of a partner? before i answer that i want to follow u p before i answer that i want to follow up on what was said. we had one very interesting example when the taliban leader was droned, to use a more the taliban leader was droned, to use a more tactical, kinetic word, while returning from iran, inside a province of pakistan. and there are intelligence reports that while in iran he was meeting also with russians. so i think that, if you have evidence that, whether haqqani or al qaeda affiliated groups, or i'iow or al qaeda affiliated groups, or now is cells, the

between pakistan and afghanistan is going to magically. be much better now and can they find a way to work together here's the thing there's going to be there's a much different way of looking at this from north america as there is looking at it from the region and what's happening in the region is that neighboring countries are actually worried how far trump is going to push pakistan you know pakistan on the surface claims to want peace but their idea of peace is different than what the united states sees pakistan sees peace as the afghanistan government kind of coming to terms with the taliban have to remember the taliban is very active in the country of afghanistan and they're taking some of the dollars that the united states is spending to fund schools and medical services whether the ideological agreements are there or not is unclear at this point but pakistan would like to see more of a collaborative effort between the taliban and the afghan government. this. fact the u.s. is never going to let that happen so other countries are worr

in pakistan. it's not as though this hasn't been tried before and money it has been withheld from pakistan in the past. it's not clear that new leverage the president has a nuclear armed pakistan. what is clear is trumps military advisors convinced him to keep the u.s. and pakistan. >> the consequences of a rapid exit are both difficult and unacceptable. a hasty withdrawal would create a vacuum that terrorists, including isis and al qaeda, would instantly fill just as happened before september 11th. >> defense secretary mattis just landon and iraq where he was asked about the presidents strategy. he would not talk troop numbers. in fact, the president was clear last night that he would not be talking troop numbers either. defense officials i talked to agree there is no winning in afghanistan, but there is a way to lose and the president chose not to lose, they say. he took their advice to stay engaged and i withdrawal. >> jon: jennifer griffin, thank you. president trump is getting ready to fly ac

we will now try to see if isolating pakistan and acting ina try to see if isolating pakistan and acting in a much more aggressive manner will change them. if they do change, there will be a lot of incentives for pakistan. pakistan will have to reconsider whether it wa nts to will have to reconsider whether it wants to drag on the conflict in afghanistan, and in the process, also get india drawn in, which pakistan considers to be its next mercer —— it is pakistan's net and scenario to have india. and india play a role, so which either means pakistan helps the united states in afghanistan or america turns to india, which isolate pakistan in the region further. when he says, in essence, pakistan is still harbouring these terrorists, and simply not doing enough, how will that message be received in islamabad ? iam one received in islamabad ? i am one of those pakistanis who wa nts i am one of those pakistanis who wants my nation to reconsider its interests, and make them much more realistic than they have been. but we are a realistic than they have been. but we are a nation which, like

reeta chakrabarti is in pakistan for us tonight. iam in i am in lahore and it has enjoyed one long st party today that has only just one long st party today that has onlyjust ended. one long st party today that has only just ended. pakistanis one long st party today that has onlyjust ended. pakistanis have been celebrating the end of british colonial rule and the splitting off from india. pakistan was a homeland for the subcontinent‘s muslims, but there has been an ongoing debate about what kind of country it should be. i have been looking at the hopes of pakistan's founding father and how differently his vision has been interpreted today. how differently his vision has been interpreted today. in pakistan's former capital karachi, mohammadjinnah's home is preserved with care and reverence. jinnah led the creation of pakistan, but today his legacy is hotly contested. just what sort of nation did he envisage? mohammad ali jinnah, pakistan's first governor general. as the british left colonial india, jinnah was desperate to secure th

>> it's time for pakistan to demonstrate its commitment to civilization, order and to peace. >> pakistan is big. got 200 million people, also gotten more than 100 operational nuclear weapons. pakistan spheresly, fiercely protective of interests in neighboring afghanistan. and its per pertial alone oh i a hair trigger stand i don't have with the neighbor on the other i had india who the u.s. president said tonight should get way more involved in afghanistan after he said pakistan needs to demonstrate its commitment to civilization. what does pakistan do these days when its mad? and did anybody in the u.s. government make preparations for that before the president said what he just said to them tonight? that's my second question. third question. the president for years insisted that we have to get out of afghanistan immediately. the afghan war has to end right now yesterday just do it just get out. well tonight in his big afghanistan war speech he said he don't want to do that anymore instead he thinks we should learn the lessons what he called the hayesy hayesty and mistaken decision to l

that way is pakistan? that way is pakistan, about 70 kilometres up north. that is where the india—pakistan border is, which lies along the middle of kutch, which is a geographical valley. at nearly 500 metres above sea level, the highest point, kalo dungar hill, allows us a dramatic view of this geological phenomenon, the rann, or desert of kutch, which continues into pakistan. i wanted to get up closer to this natural wonder. it's quite incredible, the sand. i mean, it'sjust hard crystals, white salt. you can probably taste it. really unusual to see something like this. the further out i walked, the less lovely it became. it's actually quite incredible. it's more like snow or sludge than white sand or white crystals when it gets wet around here. i'm getting really deep into it. whoa! today, this shimmering wilderness is a healthy source of income for the region, thanks mainly to a three—month long festival throughout the winter. it is amazing. what was a vast, barren landscape has been transformed into this colourful complex, whereby at night, there's

it's going to really create issues with pakistan and but what's ironic is that pakistan they created the afghan taliban they're not going to go again so they get there is a pakistan taliban which is trying to overthrow the pakistani government but this is different in afghanistan and i would i would also point out that it in night not

—— for pakistan. celebration on what the future holds for barca stun? -- for pakistan. the celebrations come at a time of real political upheaval for pakistan. the prime minister was ousted following corruption allegations, although he has denied any wrongdoing. he has given a series of speeches in the past few days in which he has repeatedly mentioned the fact that throughout pakistan's 70 year history, no prime minister has ever completed a full term in office. 0ften completed a full term in office. often because of interference by the military and it seems that the former prime minister is trying to suggest that the military were behind his removal. although the military have denied that. alongside the sense of celebration, there is a certain sense of introspection about pakistan's political history and what might be in store for the next yea rs. what might be in store for the next years. thank you very much indeed. as we've been hearing, india celebrate the partition tomorrow. 0ur correspondent sanjoy majumder is in delhi for us. how is the mood there? a great sense

pakistan is a big, nuclear-armed country. pakistan is ostensibly our ally. while we support the anti-taliban side, they support the taliban. that's long been true and that's true of the attendant groups aside from the taliban that have killed so many years over the long years that we've been in afghanistan. if the president wants to dramatically change our relationship and stance towards pakistan, that potentially could be very, very consequential. we have to believe that he knows what he's doing and he has the means, the intellectual fire power and the personnel to follow it up and make sure it ends in something constructive and not in disaster. and that's next. our coverage of the president's announcement about afghanistan continues on this network with lawrence o'donnell in the next hour and then brian williams here live in "the 11th hour" and then i'll be back live for a special edition of "the rachel maddow show" at midnight. >>> a very big news night, rachel. this speech is something we've been waiting for all weekend. we expected to hear a number and

but let's be clear, pakistan is a nuclear power. to see them tip into terrorist control would give them iran on steroids. pakistan wouldn't have the capability without china. china has as part of the one belt, one road initiative increasing the influence in pakistan and put more to the country than we do. it's time to say to china if you want better relations with the united states convince pakistan to give up the taliban safe havens and seriously renounce terrorism. >> i agree with you. remember what china has been doing with north korea. they launch first they will not be there for them. the cancelled the coal shipment after the president met with president trump. apparently 30-minute meetings went on for three hours. i want to go over the president's words. he talked about winning a war. obliterating the enemy, empowering generals that are on the ground and as large as on the field. you can't make these decisions from washington. you can't telegraph what they do. my complaint, vietnam 50,000 of america's greatest buy and we pull

and he created pakistan. and do you think mohammed jinnah would be happy with pakistan as it is today? he would be happy, he would be really happy seeing pakistan today progressing every day, every second. on this 70th anniversary of independence, the country is doing very well and it is flourishing day by day. and i hope it will get more prosperous day by day. and mansour, do you think that mohammed jinnah would be happy with pakistan as it is today? basically he had seen the basic needs of the people, and they are not being fulfilled right now. much of the problem lies in religion. because people nowadays, they're not tolerant. they are too emotional. crowds come tojinnah‘s mausoleum to pay their respects. the country he founded was rocked again last month when the prime minister was forced to resign over corruption charges. finding political stability remains one of pakistan's many challenges. this country feels it gets a bad press internationally and it does face many challenges of security, poverty, po

india levies taxes on goods from pakistan. that said, informaltrade levies taxes on goods from pakistan. that said, informal trade between the two countries is thriving, and is estimated to be close to $5 billion. that involves shipping goods through a third country. traders both in india and pakistan news dubai to get goods to each other. experts say that if history was formalised, then the total bilateral trade between the two countries could touch $10 billion every year. the new york times is reporting that facebook has discreetly launched a photo—sharing app for chinese users. the social media platform is banned in mainland china, but facebook has made clear its intentions to crack the tightly controlled market. let's cross over to our asia business hub where we can speak to mariko 0i. what more do we know about this latest move by facebook? it is fascinating. it is called colorful balloons, and the company's brand is not attached to it, the brand facebook. new york times reported this, and facebook has now confirmed thi

in the past, pakistan has been a valued partner. our militaries have worked together against common enemies. the pakistani people have suffered greatly from terrorism and extremism. we recognize those contribution and those sacrifices. but pakistan has sheltered the same organizations that try every single day to kill our people. we have been paying pakistan billions and billions of dollars at the same time they are housing the very terrorist that we are fighting. but that will have to change. and that will change immediately. no partnership can survive a country's harboring of militants and terrorists. it is time for pakistan to demonstrate its commitment to civilization, order and peace. for america to further develop its strategic partnership with india. economic partner of the united states. we appreciate india's important contribution to stability in afghanistan. india makes billions of dollars in trade with the united states. and we want them to help us more with afghanistan especially in the area of economic assistance and de

and pakistan has nuclear weapons. not just large nuclear weapons but fact -- tactical artillery weapons. >> there's pause for a reset at the top of the hour. this is a fox news alert. live coverage of president trump's address to the nation. his first prime time address in which the president will announce his administration's new afghanistan policy. delivering the speech in front of u.s. service members up the road at fort myer, virginia. i'm brett behr. >> i'm martha mccallum. the president is expect to ask india and pakistan to shoulder more of the load in the terrorist fight. something previous presents wanted and weren't able to get. the president said he'll cold pakistan more accountable for the longstanding support of the taliban. let's check in with john roberts on the scene in fort myer. >> reporter: the way things are shaping up as we await the president it looks like it will launch a new era of policy accord to the state department. the secretary of state rex tillerson spoke with the prime minister of pakis

basically combat extremism, combat pakistan's phone taliban problem and keep pakistan on the right side of the conflict. pakistan does not want to defeat these terrorists because if they defeat the terrorists, the billions of dollars in aid disappears. also during the end of the bush administration there was a bipartisan effort, when senator kerry was still chairman of the senate foreign relations committee said, why is it we are spending all this money incentivizing pakistan's military? what is the face of american diplomacy in pakistan is the pentagon and the cia rather than the state department? billionided to give $7 to the civilians in pakistan to try to change that. the result was far greater in pakistannism because the military started not wanting to lose their share of the money and basically said this money is an insult of pakistani sovereignty because all the auditing that is required, for it to secret plan to christianize pakistan. host: we have shelley from louisiana. a republican. caller: good morning. he madeave to say reference to it. it is likely are trying to buy friend

let's take you to karachi where pakistan is celebrating its independence day. 70 years ago pakistan was founded when british colonial rule ended, and partition split india into two nations. we'll have a full report later in the programme on pakistan's independence day. the white house has defended president trump's response to the violence in charlottesville virginia — after the biggest gathering of white nationalist groups in america for decades. it says he had condemned all extremist groups. a 20—year—old man has now been charged with murder after a car was driven into a woman who was part of a demonstration against the far—right rally. laura bicker reports from charlottesville. after a violent day of division, charlottesville has come together to pray, to show that this city condemns the hate brought here by neo—nazis and white supremacists. the virginia governor went from row to row, hugging worshippers in this baptist church. he promise to keep politics out of the pulpit but there was a message he felt he had to give. —— promised. it is about politics in that the poli

it's going to really create issues with pakistan and but what's ironic is that it's pakistan that created the afghan taliban and that.