korea in talks? and obviously there's a precedent here. the clinton administration did that back in the '90s. george w. bush administration did that finally after realizing that confronting north korea brought them closer to north korea perfecting and accelerating the nuclear weapons program. the obama administration preferred to engage in strategic patience. that didn't work. north korea kept moving ahead with its program. and it has really been doing what it said it is going to be doing and a hydrogen bomb is exponentially more powerful than the fission bomb than exploded over nagasaki and hiroshima in august of 1945, the end of the war there. so we are in a very dramatic moment and the question is, is there diplomacy to be had? or the other issue that people say about north korea is, you have to be really careful not to blunder into precisely the kind of situation you don't want. if north korea doesn't know what you're going to do it may take its own pre-emptive action. there are a lot of muddy wa

were to attack north korea, north korea would retaliate with a counterattack against south korea and tens of thousands if not millions could be killed in seoul alone. the geography is not in favor of a military option. and that has brought the world back to diplomacy, talking, trying to use sanctions as a leverage. none of it, what we have seen in the last couple of hours is north korea very willing still so ratchet up yet again with this apparent nuclear test. >> we appreciate it. i know it's very early where you are on the east coast. thank you. do stand by for us. i want to bring in daniel pinkston. he joins us now. he's an expert on north korea and he joins us now from seoul. thanks for joining us. the japanese government saying that explosion in north korea was indeed a nuclear test. the u.s. hasn't confirmed it, but that's what we're hearing from japanese officials. your thought now on this move by kim jong un. what is his calculation by launching such a test at a time when everyone is warning him to back down and to basically deescalate the situation. >> they've worked for dec

north korea saying is to undermine south korea which is its rival south korea's the only country which poses an existential threat to north korea south korea is the only country which capability ability and intention to absorb the north korea and unify the korean peninsula so north korea's aim is to undermine south korea not to. undermine or attack japan and the reason why north korea is trying to develop capability to japan is to actually prevent japan and the united states from assisting south korea in case of contingencies because with nuclear and the missile capability is capable of attacking japan and the united states north korea can say oh the americans and if you assist south korea we would attack you with nuclear weapons and north korea will be telling. you no the question will be whether you know would you be willing to sacrifice tokyo washington new york for seoul and we depend on the united states would be put in a very easy thing fashion do you think that japan the united states will still come to south korea's aid if anything happens. that's what we are committed to do bu

korea. we understand that several of their security chiefs have spoken with their american counterparts as well as some japanese security chiefs have spoken with their american counterparts including h.r. mcmaster so we know at least the administration is aware of these tests. they are aware of the south korean response. a interesting note from the security chief in south korea. the writes very sensitive conversations going on right now. you can imagine the white house is preparing a response and this really will be key in determination the future of this relationship. in part, because of the escalation that we have seen. just about every time that there has been some provocation from north korea a test or missile launch we have seen a stern and strong and aggressive response from president trump, be it fire and fury the likes of which the world has never seen, or saying that our military assets are locked and loaded. saying that all options are on the table. and each and every time we see a

south korea alliance. the north korean nuclear threat came up frequently throughout the discussion with current and past south korean leaders, former u.s. officials and policy experts. in this session we heard from florida democratic represented stephanie murphy who serves on the house armed services committee and we also hear from a former international relations and ambassador to a south korean. this is about an hour. >> good morning. thank you for coming to thegi 2017 u.s. strategic form. we would like to thank our partner for this event, the korea foundation for their support. we are fortunate to have richard and the president of the korea foundation and the ambassador here to give some opening remarks.before before i introduce them, is would like to say a few words about safety. we feel very secure in our building but we have a duty to prepare for any event. my name is lisa collins. i'm a fellow and i will serve as your responsible safety officer for this event. please follow my instructions should th

bitcoin from south korea. that is a different turn on their list of activities. >> hubley these fines are do youve deterrent -- believe these fines are a detective deterrent? think dt agreed to that fine. they were caught doing the transaction. there areso point out north korean front companies that are caught up. >> do you think it will be a deterrent? if you are a senior official in a chinese bank, you have to be worried right now. zte?at other entities like a lot of the north korean programs, as i said before our indigenous. they need technology and components. >> any specific ones you have in mind? i don't know any specific ones. whereuld have a provision you can do business with north korea, or you can have access to the u.s. financial system. as a companies -- that is a decision companies have to make. >> how can we better compel the chinese government to work with us on this issue? to separate law enforcement from diplomacy. we can content -- we can can continue on the path to implement you and sanction

and south korea have its military exercises north korea typically has a response ballistic or a nuclear response to that and this wretched ratchets up the level of tension and the words and theirs and so it does create a crisis like atmosphere. zooming and hoping that things will calm down to some extent once we get past the spirit and hopefully from mid september on words but there's a period of a period of tension and would say for at least a week or two ok brian let me go to you i mean one of the things i find very troubling about all of this i am against the proliferation of nuclear weapons i would like to see absolute universal disarmament ok completely ok but it seems to me what the dangerous path that this invented a real crisis is it gets down to credibility and this is very dangerous because no one wants to back away and this is what bothers me about this rhetoric it bothers me very much that the u.s. out of hand rejects we'll talk later in this program about the double freeze i think that's a very interesting first step but it gets down to who's going to back down who's who's

korea alliance. this alliance began in the wake of the korean war in the front line in the battle against communist expansion. it is now an alliance that will be perhaps more decisive than any other bilateral relationship in determining how the u.s. and japan, japan and china and the larger spread of northeast asian power plays itself out. and we have to get this right as allies. hopeful the we'll point to some of the ways we'll do that. so i'm going to ask each of the panelists to give us a three to five minute top line, key take away set of points on their talking memos, which are in the conference panel. and then we'll come back and tray to get some debate and disagreement going and then open it up for your questions of the yes, sir. >> okay. this is hugh -- i wrote this like seven page, but i have to talk to you in three minutes. and the question is the big picture of northeast asia. actually, i rewrote in the morning when i heard it i have five minutes. okay. as you all know that the present sit

korea. if you think the option should be military, (202) 748-8000, if you think they should be diplomatic, (202) 748-8001, if he thinks sanctions is the , anything02) 748-8002 do nothing is the right response, (202) 748-8003. you can start calling in now. here are headlines this morning after the nuclear test by north korea on sunday. nuclear bass by north korea amplifies the crisis that is the largest test to date on the front page of the "the washington post" this morning. north korea blessed by north korea amplifies crisis. trump signals he hasn't pulled out a strike on north korea. military options loom over hydrogen bomb is the headline in new york new york times. was amongof defense the leaders who met with the present at the white -- president at the white house yesterday. here is the response. >> we had a national security meeting with the president and the vice president about the latest provocation on the korean peninsula. we have many military options and the president wanted to b

soldiers in south korea and north korea is a nuclear power now it doesn't need to be a crisis i mean india is a nuclear power pakistan's a nuclear power israel is a nuclear power all five members of the security council who are engaging in sanctions against d p r k some with different positions of course the us being the most bellicose they're all nuclear powers at one time the united states said of the soviet union had nuclear weapons the sky would fall and they must have preemptive nuclear war that was a doctrine same with quote red china in the one nine hundred fifty s. and yet over time the united states acclimated to the reality and thus began a process of normalized relations even even with its targeted enemies the countries that didn't want to have nuclear weapons but but did now d p r k has left the n.p.t. the nuclear nonproliferation treaty in the early part of the two thousand they had the right to do so they were labeled as part of the axis of evil by george w. bush as bush prepared to carry out the destruction of iraq which he did and killed their leadership so we know wh

against north korea. north korea may now have tested a nuclear device that is small enough to put on top of a ballistic missile that could be fired at the united states. and, for the government here injapan, that is very disturbing, because it raises a very troubling question. in future, will the united states be willing to risk one of its own cities, say for example, denver, in order to protect seoul and tokyo? this afternoon, the us ambassador rushed to see japan's foreign minister to reassure him. no action taken by the north koreans will in any way deter our commitment. japan and the us may have the military might to deter north korea, but they have few other levers to pressure pyongyang. only one country does, and that is china. china was quite literally shaken by the blast. north korea's nuclear test site is only 60 miles from the border. it will have sent a diplomaticjolt, too, coming just before president xi jinping opened this international summit. although he made no direct reference, he warned

the order targets only one country and that country is, north korea. the regime can no longer count on others to facilitate its trade and banking activities. many countries are working with us to increase economic and diplomatic pressure on north korea. i continue to call on all of those responsible nations to enforce and implement u.n. sanctions and opposed their own measures, like the ones i'm announcing today. that this is a complete denuclearization of north korea that we seek. we cannot have this as a world body any longer. in a few minutes, prime minister abi, president mont and i are going to discuss what more we can do. we have had a very close relationship, i think our relationship to become closer because of this. i know it's going to be a great meeting, our alliance with south korea and japan have never been stronger than it is today. we share a commitment to creating a world where strong and independent nations honor their people, respect their sovereignty, respect the sovereignty also of other nations, and promote peace. thank you very muc

in north korea conducted tolaunches. the security council responded with the adoption of resolution 28 -- 2087. following north korea postern nuclear test in 2013, the council adopted resolution 2094. expanding sanctions to restrict financial, maritime, aviation and phonetic activities. by 2016, north korea has conducted its fourth nuclear test and another specialized. they followed that with more missile launches, in response, the council adopted multiple resolutions, expanding sanctions even further. targeting all sectors of north korea hospital economy. finally, this year, the council got even more serious. first we adopted resolution 2356. just last month, after the regime's first two icbm launches, we adopted resolution 2371, the strongest sanction we have ever imposed on north korea. that resolution band north korean exports of coal, iron and seafood and opposed several other measures that will significantly cut off the revenues needed to find the nuclear program. why did i take the time to go through this history?

forget of south korea u.s. south korea japan combined china only so have i think the defense ministers are sort of understand that there's interest in priority of just supporting north korea giving plank check to north korea has not worked and we're not at the close of the endgame here and i think china needs to believe value should you showed earlier about you know the regime change was being a problem and charles has talked about the need to engage in gauge you said last week in an interview i'm all for information warfare we need to help the people of north korea rise up that's the long term game the north korean people bring about the change we need you can't really engage with you also encourage regime i'm not i'm not a promoter and engagement are locked only because i feel you have modern regime change in the not so. no not sometimes have you united states doing decapitation of e.g. but supporting the people rise up by supporting people of north korea because or any long term gain here is a we need a diff

were or south korea were to take some sort of a strategic strict into north korea, north korea could and by all accounts likely would respond with an overwhelming fire into seoul, into south korea, who knows where. and in that case, would it be considered self-defense, the north korean action, that's why we're hearing about this idea that there's just not a good military option from the u.s., south korea and japanese. starting this year, the u.s. deployed part of a fad battery, so two of the six tubes in one battery, it gave it an initial operating capability, but it's still not at a full operating capability. the u.s. could deploy the rest of that, that's something we will likely see in the coming day ors coming week. stella kim reported this morning that the environmental impact has been virtually worked out in that. so i think we'll see that, and that will provide some more defensive capabilities. the united states also has destroyers with missile defense capability. as ron also mentioned, we saw these more recent shows of force by the u.s., south korea and japanese. just in the p

on the topic of north korea. and that is why on behalf of france, i would like to send today three messages of political nature and express them if the form of three requirements. the first one, the first demand, is the need to be lucid when it comes to the development of the threats we're facing. let's make no mistake. after the intercontinental ballistic missile launches this summer, or after the nuclear test, unprecedented scope on the third of september, the threat changed in regional, it became global, from virtual, it became immediate. and from being serious, it became existential. and this is illustration of how this threat places demands on us. it brings us together. it also shows us how we need to have a strong and united reaction of the security council, something that france called for from the beginning, and without reservation. the first demand placed on us, a central nature, is the need to be firm. give them the-long rush forward of the irresponsible measure of the regime and the contempt for its in

troops in south korea as a solution. i would hope that we would be willing to use force which is something that nobody seems to want to mention and i think this is perhaps the only thing people like that understand so i would sit just, i won't ask what type of force has been ruled out and i'm sure the administration's got the parameters of what type of force they are willing to use but i would certainly think the use of defensive forces and again thank you ronald reagan for insisting we have antimissile systems available. i would hope that the next time the north koreans launched a rocket especially one that will traverse over our ally japan, i would hope that we should down as a message to the north koreans and two other people like japan who were counting on us. unless we demonstrate we are willing to use force there's no reason for them to believe we will. also antimissile defense type of approach, i would hope that if indeed another missile was launched or preparing for a launch that we conduct a cyber attack on nort

the south korean government reports that north korea curt -- north korea's economy grew at the fastest rate in 17 years last year, the that they are g8 gdp expanded to 18% of the low-level but they are experiencing economic growth and it's hard to imagine that they are going to abandon these programs if they are discovering they have greater prosperity year in and year out so i want to commence the work you do. i'm grateful for it. i agree fully with the executive order to further pursue sanctions but we have witnesses who have reported to us and i don't think our current witnesses will disagree, we are not yet at the maximum level of possible sanctions against north korea. her instance we are told at past hearings that there are financial institutions conducting transactions with north korean entities that are not subject to the same sanctions. would you both agree with that? >> senator any financial institution would be subject to our authority. >> i understand that but is it true that there are financial institutions including chinese institutions that are conducting financial trans

nicky creeley saying north korea is begging for war. —— nicky creeley saying north korea is begging forwar. —— nicky nicky creeley saying north korea is begging for war. —— nicky henley. more on north korea to come, first a quick look at the rest of the day's news. us media report that president trump will end the program known as deferred action for childhood arrivals, or daca, which shields certain immigrants from deportation if they came to the us illegally as children. the 0bama administration policy currently protects around 800,000 young men and women often referred to as dreamers. aid agencies across south asia are still trying to reach millions of people affected by the worst floods to hit the region in years. the un children's agency, unicef estimate around sixteen million children across india, bangladesh and nepal are in urgent need of life—saving support. in india's state of bihar campaigners say the government has built too many roads that trapped excess water. hong kong's public broadcaster has dropped twenty—four hour bbc world service radio, replacing it with st

and then we had the hydrogen bomb testing in north korea just two weeks ago so clearly north korea is trying to intimidate japan and it said yesterday in fact that it would sink japan with a nuclear weapon so it's not unexpected that this missile launch would take place in japan. i think has been expecting north korea to increase the provocation given the support that your pain is providing to the united states and south korea and particularly as it goes for tougher sanctions against north korea and of course we've got these military exercises that are taking place just off the coast of the korean peninsula with the united states and japan itself and south korea so all of these things are causing consternation to the north koreans and they are reacting and that's causing the situation we see today and what we're going to end up with i think is these emergency council meeting in the u.n. security council if in fact it agrees to japan's wish for that to go ahead craig thanks very much indeed that's quickly some live for us in tokyo let's now go to under thomas who's joining us live from

of the bargain. 2005 the united states, china, japan, north korea, russia, and south korea put out a joint statement celebrating north korea agreeing to abandon its nuclear weapons program, again. 2006. north korea tested its first nuclear weapon. since then, north korea has conducted five more nuclear weapon tests andozens of ballistic missile flight sts, threatening american targets. i will ask you both. if a denuclearization agreement is reached, how can we ensure that the kim regime does that the fool u again like they ha over the last couple of decades? >> senator, i agree with you. that is the challenge. we are going to have to -- if an agreement is reached, we are going to have to very carefully hold them to account. we cannot get to the same place, to the place that we are in -- we are in today. and again, we would maximize the pressure that we have put on in a calibrated way to avoid that -- the perilous situation that we are in today. >> care to comment? >> i think what we would have to do is make sure that we have the entire international community on board for the enforce

biggestorth korea's card. they have maybe 20 nuclear weapons, missiles, some that might reach the united states, they're technology, but also a very, very poor country economically. they're a country that's got starving. betty: right. bill: i think there's a endgame,on there, an where kim jong-un is going to assistanceconomic and the end of sanctions. i think eventually that's what he wants. betty: bill, we were watching haley, the current u.s. ambassador to the u.n., talking just after the vote had taken place. you've been in her position before. i'm curious about what you think you've heard from her these last several weeks, and outharsh words she's come with. do you think she's in danger of the u.s. red line that might regret on north korea? bill: one of the problems with u.s. policy is we have mixed messages. the secretary of state talking dialog. haley beingikki very aggressive, military oriented. thisnk we've got to stop provocations on red lines and talking to north korea as if we've got a military adva

korea. but as i said, we have many options to do so. >> and then this just in to msnbc. we are hearing from the young hot news agency that south korea is holding ballistic missile drills now in response to the north korea test. also word that president trump has spoken with japanese prime minister shinzo abe about the international community stepping up its response. it's all while an emergency meeting of the u.n. security council called for tomorrow morning, 10:00 a.m. eastern, following pyongyang's actions. let's bring in nbc's garrett haake who joins us once again from the white house. latest we're getting, is this missile test -- there isn't a lot of detail -- from the young hot news agency and what south korea is doing. >> reporter: yeah. south korea and japan have been driving the bus on the sort of kinetic response to this north korean nuclear test overnight. we've been hearing more from south korea and japan frankly about their responses to this action than we have been from the whit

in south korea. well i think in south korea certainly the government the defense ministry has been on heightened alert for some time now just a few days ago they released some information through their intelligence sources that seemed to indicate that north korea was preparing for another ballistic missile launch at any moment quite possibly an internet intercontinental ballistic missile which of course causes great concern there was some expectation that that may happen on saturday which was foundation in a day in north korea that did not happen so there will be a concern that given these united nations security council resolutions have been adopted that perhaps north korea will respond with some sort of action like a missile test and it did certainly threaten to respond yesterday on monday we saw another strongly worded statement full of fiery rhetoric coming out from pyongyang from the korean central news agency the official news agency warning that there will be a response should the united state

or north korea, but not both. south korea's formally asked for another special joint committee discuss the free trade agreement. the u.s. trade representative originally discussed it back in july. a second meeting by negotiators in august failed after kim said washington's requests were one-sided. president trump has repeatedly called the deal a job killer. russia is warning the united states it will retaliate against american backed fighters in syria. russia is accused of fighters of firing on government ships battling for territory. they are fighting alongside syrian forces. the russian defense minister says any further attacks will be a meal he met with retaliation. the formal warning has been delivered to the u.s. in qatar. special counsel robert mueller investigative team has asked the white house for documents concerning michael flynn's job as national security advisor. information leading to a question of a june 2016 meeting attended by donald trump jr. and a russian lawyer. mueller's office is excited to i

start with north korea. north korea may be moving an int intercontinental ballistic missile for another launch this week. that's what a south korea law maker tells cnn. north korea is also making new threats this morning saying they will quote blow up the u.s. mainland. >> a second day of live fire exercises at sea. all eyes on the strained relationships. the u.s. ambassador insists jim young un is begging for war. alisyn mentioned it. breaking news on hurricane irma. it just game more powerful, it is now a monster category 5 storm with winds now exceeding 175 miles per hour. pay attention to the forecast. the we're going have that coming up. it is crucial. we have it all covered for you with the global resources of cnn. will ripley live in

and south korea must hold their joint drills near north korea's territory however the u.s. has dismissed that idea the idea that some have suggested a so-called freeze for free is insulting when a rogue regime has a nuclear weapon and an i.c.b.m. pointed at you you do not take steps to lower your guard no one would do that we certainly want. to go we can get thoughts now political on this john bolton issue joins us john just listening to nikki haley there. do you think the u.s. is right to oppose that double free solution put forward by russia and china. i think that a normal fair minded person would ask why the united states is opposed to that solution in honesty the united states already has intercontinental ballistic missiles pointed not only at north korea but at dozens of countries around the world already when north korea says that it wants to exercise a policy of peace through strength that's not a translation from the original korean that's original talk coming out of washington some fifty years ago so when north korea is actually just copying washington's policy of

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and south korea yes south korea has got to be i mean they have a very reasonable president right now moon and he has got to be looking at trump who is pushing him to war and stabbing him in the back economically at the same time that last look like any of this to happen in south east south korea and japan they do not need to sort it all because in those or so the u.s. wants to fight north korea until a lot. of crime got to watch and it all goes back to what you said earlier is who are we dealing with everything with trouble are we dealing with madness are we dealing with kelly are we dealing with these wall street goldman sachs bankers no one really knows who's trying this foreign policy decision just like with this russian policy north korea policy is still a lose lose for donald trump. he has made it a big you know position he himself in a very masculine way right and even putin's wording in the text he wrote before he went to the brick summit he addressed north korean issue and he very early clearly tried to play up to trump's ego in it he referred to the united states as the stro

south korea conducts live fire exercises in response to north korea's latest nuclear test. general mattis accusing kim jong-un of begging for war. >>> some top republicans oppose a move of cancelling daca for children. >>> a deadly and dangerous hurricane could make landfall along the east coast. what parts of u.s. could be in the storm's path? i'm jim acosta. you're in the situation room. >>> tonight we're following worldwide anger, threats and frustration over north korea's latest nuclear weapons test. scientists say the weekend blast is the most powerful nuclear explosion north korea ever achieved. and there are new warnings that kim jong-un's nuclear bombs now fit on top of his intercontinental ballistic missile. south korea conducted its own military drills and ordering the deployment of more u.s.-supplied anti nuclear missiles. president trump got on to discuss more options to deal with the north korea threat. president trump is raising eyebrows and questions by threatening to stop u.s. trade with countries helping north korea. his threat could include china. the big

will you attack north korea? >> we'll see. >> our coverage begins this morning with cnn's barbara starr at the pentagon. >> reporter: secretary of defense mattis and general joe dunford, the chairman of the joint chiefs, making that extraordinary appearance in front of the white house. mattis delivering a very carefully worded message, saying that the u.s. does have military options. that any threat from north korea to the u.s. or its allies would be met with a massive military response. he was very clear the u.s. isn't looking for total annihilation of north korea, but make no mistake, they are looking to send this very stern, grim message to kim jong-un that if he does not give up his nuclear weapons, if he threatens or attacks, the u.s. would take him out. the u.s. strategy at the moment if there is a military strategy is to try and convince kim jong-un that he himself and his regime could not survive if they were to attack south korea, japan, guam, or the united states. on the other hand, it's a message we've

south korea and japan have praised the u.n. security council and their decision to impose new sanctions on north korea the u.s. wanted tougher measures but they were eventually watered down diplomatic out as a james bays has more now from the united nations. this was the result the u.s. ambassador nikki haley wanted even though she had to weaken her resolution to get it a unanimous vote by the security council to punish north korea for its latest nuclear test today the security council has acted in a different way today we are attempting to take the future of the north korean nuclear program out of the hands of its outlaw regime china and russia may have voted for the resolution but both said it was only part of the solution the u.s. and south korea they said should stop military exercises and remove the threat missile defense system and there should be new talks new that so it's a big mistake to underestimate this russia china initiative it remains on the table at the security council and we will insist on it being considered.

against north korea. north korea may now have tested a nuclear device that is small enough to put on top of a ballistic missile that could be fired at the united states. and, for the government here injapan, that is very disturbing, because it raises a very troubling question. in future, will the united states be willing to risk one of its own cities, say for example, denver, in order to protect seoul and tokyo? this afternoon, the us ambassador rushed to see japan's foreign minister to reassure him. no action taken by the north koreans will in any way deter our commitment. japan and the us may have the military might to deter north korea, but they have few other levers to pressure pyongyang. only one country does, and that is china. china was quite literally shaken by the blast. north korea's nuclear test site is only 60 miles from the border. it will have sent a diplomaticjolt, too, coming just before president xi jinping opened this international summit. although he made no direct reference, he warned

south korea getting tougher. we have been watching the government here much more saber rattling, more military exercises. they realize they have a regional defense issue they are dealing with just as the u.s. deals with a longer-range threat. >> bret: greg palkot live in south korea on this breaking news that a north korean missile launch. thank you. we will have our panel, three of the "the five" joint after the break ey would last them. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped! you're gonna leave me back here at year 9? how did this happen? it turned out, a lot of people fell short, of even the average length of retirement. we have to think about not when we expect to live to, but when we could live to. let's plan for income that lasts all our years in retirement. prudential. bring your challenges. your insurance on time. tap one little bumper, and up go your rates. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? news flash: nobody's perfect. for drivers with accident forgivene

that the united states and south korea stop joint exercises on the border and north korea freezes its weapons programme. nikki haley described that process as insulting. it is clear that both sides are taking very different approaches. with me is our security correspondent frank gardner. what is the role particularly of china here? it is absolutely key. china here? it is absolutely key. china holds the key to resolving this, if it chooses to. they will be heads down, trying to work outjust what they should do. the one country that really has got a good insight into what is going on in north korea and can influence it is china. south korea has a degree of optic on it because they have their own agents inside there but china is very heavily dependent on their north korea's trade survival. north korea has a tiny border with russia and its biggest border is with china. the problem is, china and the us have a future potential conflict in the making when it comes to the south china sea. china probably knows a lot more intelligence about north korea than it is sharing. it does not want to sh

would impose additional sanctions on north korea. after those comments, steve nugent, the treasury secretary, held a briefing in new york city to discuss the sanctions. --s is 10 minutes to read this is 10 minutes. secretary mnuchin: hello everybody. nice to see you. glad to be here with all of you. it has been a very productive week at the united nations. i have been pleased to be here with the president. today the president strengthened, he signed an executive order that strengthened the u.s. government ability to cut off funding to the north korean regime and its weapons development program. despite multiple un security council resolutions, north korean dictator kim jong on continues to threaten the world and his neighbors with provocative nuclear and missile tests. president trump's new executive order significantly expands treasury's authorities to target those who enable this regime's economic activity, wherever they areorder located. for too long, north korea has evaded sanctions and used in the international financial system

north korea has been saying, both in conversations with government officials in north korea and also via their state media, that they think it is time for the united states to recognize them as a nuclear power, as a nuclear weapon state, something that north korea has sought for quite a long time. they believe that the u.s. has a hostile policy against their country and they continue to develop these weapons of mass destruction in die phi answer of round after round of international sanctions. it was reiterated to me repeatedly on the ground all last week that north korea refuses to back down. they won't back down after fiery rhetoric from the u.s. president donald trump. they won't back down after that flyover of american and south korean bombers and fighter jets over the korean peninsula in the past couple of days. in fact, they say those types of actions will only accelerate their weapons development. what is interesting is they're going to be announcing this nuclear test so soon, and this is on a sunday, the only day off for north koreans. they waited 24 hours before announcing t

i told south korea their talk of appeasement with north korea will not work. they only understand one thing. the seems in the international community that sanctions are better because of the risk of war. but kim jong-un is being so provocative. reporter: that's true. but wednesday the meeting mattis had with his south korean counterpart. the media made a lot out of the fact the president tweeted that moment that the time for talking was over with north korea. the defense secretary mattis said we are not out of diplomatic options. many people in the media took that to mean he was contradicting the president. mattis spoke to us in the pentagon the day after, and he was hot under the collar for being misinterpreted. he said just base said we are not out of diplomatic options didn't mean we shouldn't talk to kim jong-un or that we don't have military ass. the potential for miscalculation given the unpredictable nature of north korea, the risk is high and mattis knows that. howie: jennifer griffin, thanks so much for calling in. after the break we'll go to houston

just leaves the option of threatening north korea which only encourages north korea to accelerate its nuclear weapons program which in turn encourages the trumpeter ministration to put him on the. road for very dangerous. for the industry from a came over to him and. they're not willing to give up their for weapons program unless the united states drops its hostile policy from the opening for a diplomatic move if the united states wanted to take this is a full scale diplomatic crisis and i think the president has not really framed this issue as such i think this is in some ways a war of words we know he's very fond of twitter and saying provocative things president and our government is not devoting the resources the political will that are needed to find a solution to this problem we need to amp up the resources at the state department warm bodies people who understand north korea the culture the language get them working on this issue. now with the world cup on the horizon from russia the focus is on fan safety and on friday national football team criticized the group of its support

south korea is finding, as i have told them, that their talk of appeasement with north korea will not work. they only understand one thing. cnn's will ripley is in tokyo, one of the only western journalists to spend significant time inside north korea. will, you just returned from pyongyang yesterday. your 14th trip. what do you think this test means? >> reporter: well, this test is sending a very strong message to the united states and the trump administration, dana. it is a message of defiance and it is a message that north korea will not back down. that was the message that was reiterated to us repeatedly when we were meeting with government officials in pyongyang all last week. the north koreans continue to be furious over a number of things. they're furious about the joint military drills regularly scheduled that wrapped up last week, two-week drills that the united states and south korea engage in every year and every year the regime is infuriated by that. they've launched their intermediate range missile over hokkaido, japan's northern island. when the u.s. conducted a missile

and south korea. but we know that, it's already expressed, president trump wants to pull out of a trade pact with south korea. >> reporter: yes. >> in a way of leveraging or quieting or responding or getting ahead of what's happening in north korea. how might that be a potential setback? >> reporter: it's -- the timing is very, very unfortunate. because that is basically you know, sort of hanging -- leaving the ally out there hanging and twisting in the wind. i mean, right now the u.s., whatever the president feels about trade and fairness and unfairness or whatever, has to really be standing shoulder to shoulder. you know? the u.s. extends its nuclear umbrella -- >> stop you right there and listen to the statement from the white house. >> -- we had a small group national security meeting today with the president and the vice president about the latest provocation on the korean peninsula. we have many military options, and the president wanted to be briefed on each one of them. we made clear that we h

korea. this means going after coal, petroleum, textiles and minerals as well as north korean laborers abroad. in addition, the bill would incentivize greater by leveraging our vote at the international financial institutions were certain countries with lax enforcement go to seek assistance. this bill puts those countries on notice. this proposed legislation has been informed by the committee's ongoing work on north korea, as well as the un panel of experts evaluation of existing sanctions effectiveness. needless to say, north korea's sixth nuclear test on september 3, coupled with its repeated launching of intermediate and long-range ballistic missiles underlines that more must be done. as a result, the legislative draft will be looking at plays out a choice. foreign banks can either do business that benefits north korea, or they can do business with the united states. they cannot do both. as many of us here are aware, this is a similar approach to the one taken in 2010 against iran which he

upon them and he said that north korea's fear that threat of regime change is white north korea would be giving up on its nuclear tests. but it's actually. everyone remembers what happens with iraq and saddam hussein because he stopped the production of weapons of mass destruction regardless under the pretext of searching for those weapons saddam himself has destroyed them alongside his family members. if you don't agree that was notable and they remember that in north korea do you think that just because of sanctions north korea will forget its policy of creating weapons of mass destruction to russia condemns those north korean actions we think they are a provocation then you could cause all the koreans as i told one of my colleagues yesterday for would rather eat grass than give up on their nuclear program unless they feel safe to do is only. for president putin also said that the us policy on north korea doesn't make any sense and he said that it's absolutely absurd to put russia and north korea on the same sanctions list and then also must go to help impose sanctions on pyongyang.

or earlier i asked correspondent jason strother in south korea whether north korea's threat to test a hydrogen bomb over the pacific is credible. well right now there is no indication that such a test is being prepared i haven't seen anything from south korean intelligence indicating that preparations are under way i mean and quite frankly depending on how the test was conducted let's say taking a a barge out into the middle of the pacific or even dropping it via an airplane i mean that would open up north korea to potential attack or retaliation from japan and or the united states of course if north korea were to shoot a missile carrying a nuclear warhead into the pacific it would certainly demonstrate that it has mastered the technology to mount a warhead onto a rocket when trump announced new sanctions yesterday on korea he made an interesting intriguing remark jason let's listen in china central bank has told their other vacs it's a massive banking system to immediately stop doing business with north korea just happened just reported so president trump there saying the that he's g

sanctions against north korea tempered by u.n. representative nikki haley and rex tillerson saying and trump himself saying that negotiations as still possible how do you bring north korea to the negotiating table is that it's possible any time soon. well the american position is still that china has sufficient leverage over the north koreans to make them enter a negotiation but i don't see the chinese or indeed the russian the su have some leverage over pyongyang although less. forcing the north koreans to talk unless the americans make some sort of gesture the chinese and russians keep on talking about a freeze for freeze formula that means that the north koreans would cease their nuclear tests and missile work in return for the u.s. ceasing military operations with the south korean army nikki haley has called that bargain insulting the question is is there some other form of initial confidence building measures that the u.s. could take to try and bring the north koreans into talks and it's not clear that anyone in washington ac

north korea threatens retaliation as the u.n. prepares to vote on new sanctions which have already been watered down. below there and arbus are you watching out for a live from london also coming up on the program the u.n. human rights chief says myanmar's crackdown on the regime just seems like a textbook example of ethnic cleansing the victims of irma cuba says at least ten people were killed as the horrific and tore through the. work with matthew barnes. new york remembers the victims of the nine eleven attacks sixteen years ago. the u.n. security council is about to vote on a new sanctions over north korea's largest ever a nuclear bomb test the u.s. has been forced to water down its original draft resolution to win the support of pyongyang's allies that's russia and crucially china last week's test was the sixth and largest carried out by north korea young is warning that it is ready and willing to respond with measures of its own let's go live now to james bases of the u.n. headquarters in new york it is obviously now twenty

and south korea must halt their joint drills near north korea's territory however the u.s. has dismissed the idea the idea that some have suggested a so-called freeze for free is insulting when a rogue regime has a nuclear weapon and an i.c.b.m. pointed at you you do not take steps to lower your guard no one would do that we certainly want it explores now the other options on open to donald trump. the u.s. and north korea stuck in a behavioral rut neither seemed willing to back down it looks so bad you might think a third world war was imminent but surely no one wants that so how does the world tackle north korea what are the options while option number one twitter war. president trump has been dropping twitter bombs on pretty every occasion saying pyongyang is looking for trouble and threatening locked unloaded military solutions and south korea and i should point out that it's a u.s. ally is caught in the rhetorical crossfire question is how effective all of these twitter bombs there's no reaction except from kim parading more of his ballistic missiles and even saying he

korea. all of them rely on the u.s. financial system. cutting off their money is another critical part. the third pieces delegitimizing the oppression of the regime. >> here is more reaction to the announcement from today's washington journal. this is about 40 minutes. >> we are going to welcome robert gallucci, he was at the table back in 1994 during the clinton administration's negotiations with north korea. thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> let's talk about the news overnight. how concerned are you about the successful testing apparently of a hydrogen bomb? guest: there are two parts to that question -- whether it was a true thermonuclear weapon or not. i think analysts are going to be looking at that, starting with the yield, but the yield is as initially reported, 100 that's five times or so the size of the bombs were dropped on japan at the end of the second world war in hiroshima and nagasaki. they were bad enough, they were legitimately called city

and allies, japan and south korea? break it down for us. >> the trump administration has not mounted a firm and visible response that north korea has tested missiles at an accelerated pace throughout the spring or this icbm which was a critical time for the united states. one thing we should be looking at is what are the new military capabilities, defensive military capabilities that could help to prevent north korea from agresing. agresing against allied forces. one thing that concerned me tonight was the statement that kcna released with the photographs saying this nuclear warhead was capable of variable yield. they could dial down the yield to a lower yield which suggests that north korea is not just thinking about having a capability to retaliate against american cities in the event of invasion, but in fact they are thinking about how to use the nuclear weapons for blackmail, potentially to use them in a wider range of circumstances and situations. the priority now should be to abandon this fool'ser rand to draw ou