korean regime, such as, for example, the textile sector and north korean workers. i am referring also to the important restrictions placed on the exports of oil to north korea. and this resolution also strengthens the tools we have at our disposal in order to present the wardens of sanctions, in particular in the maritime area. the last report of our exports confirmed this, the north korean regime is becoming increasingly creative when it comes to avoiding sanctions that have been placed on it. well, let's react to it by also being very creative. mr. president, this is not just simply being determined and resolute in words. the sanctions are not a light motif without a goal. they're not an end in themselves. area united reaction, a firm and unequivocal response today meets an objective. on the one hand we're reacting to the unjustifiable attitude by pyongyang and also avoiding sending any signal of impunity given violations of our own resolutions. but also, and as i said, it also maximizes the pressure on the north korean regime and does this in order to bring them

you can under trade in north korean coal. that is a huge revenue left to this dictator given that we have relatively well shut off his arms trade. he's basically been reduced to high volume, low margin commodities, minerals, things like that. we have to choke that off. but secondly, because of lack of enforcement in the international system by countries we talked about china today, russia. he still has access to the international finance system because he has north korean brokers and agents operating with impunity, brazenly abroad in foreign jurisdictions. that has to stop. that is our next step. >> thank you, mr. chairman, for the extra time. >> mr. ted lue of california. >> thank you, mr. chair. and first of all, thank you to the witnesses for your public service. i served on active duty under u.s. pacific command in the 1990s at guam. we did a whole series of different exercises, most of them were directed at north korea. it was really good there were no good military options. the reason i bring that up is because diplomat

words by president trump, words by the north korean leader, missiles launched by the north korean side over japan. more missiles set off by the north koreans. a huge show of force by the u.s. military. military exercises going on for the past couple weeks. exercises that happen twice a year in this part of the world. and the united states, south korea, and japan were in the process of winding down two weeks of exercises that always happen that infuriate north korea and that is the trigger that pushes north koreans now. they are always very, very agitated by these u.s. military exercises and they called for the u.s. and south koreans to back down a little bit on this. but the united states of course says they're not going to do this because they see these exercises which involve tens of thousands of south korean and japanese troops as well as essential to the defense posture in this part of the world. the exercises went on and concluded with a massive flyover by the b-1 b bombers that came up from guam which is the place that the north koreans have said they are targeting and they had s

exercises that always anger the north koreans. we know that they have fired off at least four missiles during this time frame during the past week or so. last tuesday launching an intermediate-range missile. long-range missile perhaps it was that flew from north korea over japan. some 7,800 miles. it was in the air some 15 minutes. air raid sirens went off in japan. there was a lot of the confusion, a lot of concern, a lot of worry about what was going to happen because that was an unprecedented move. the north koreans had fired missiles before that seemed to enter japanese air space. they claimed they were setting offal satellites. this was clearly a different sort of launch. this was a missile that flew in a trajectory that was flatter than others. it clearly flew over japan. and it set off alarms of all sorts. and we know in the weeks before that the north koreans have been threatening to fire missiles towards guam. the u.s. territory in the south pa spa sific. that is in range of that missile that flew over japan traversed. so

we know what the north koreans are claiming. they're claiming that it was a hydrogen bomb, not a nuclear weapon, stronger than a nuclear weapon, many times for powerful and they're claiming that it was a weapon that was small enough to be put inside and launched by a long range missile. if all that is true and again it hasn't been verified, that would be a major step forward, a major technological achievement and escalation of the tension here on the korean peninsula. south korea has responded quickly and condemning this ultimately. the south korean president called this outrageous and disgusting. he's said that they're going to bring to bear every diplomatic tool that they can, sanctions ons north korea. they're also openly talking about taking military measures, defensive measures calling in more u.s. military weaponry to help protect south korea which is significant because the south koreans are adamantly opposed to military force. they keep insisting that they want to solve this problem and stand off diplomatically. but this

non-north korean bank for facilitating north korean financial activity. demonstrates our commitment to take action. we look forward to taking action with the chinese were possible and in the event that is not possible we will move forward to safeguard the international financial system. >> assistant secretary billingslea thank you very much. let me make a point. in terms of when we have seen sanctions that were effective, in 2005 we had sanctions on the bank. at that point in time and talking to a senior defector that works in their missile program he indicated death because we cut off the hard currency they had to shut down their icbm program. one of the things he indicated also or was indicated by the conversations we had with senior defectors was that during that period of time the ability of the regime or the dictators they called him, to get his hands on our currency was blocked and the inability of the dictator to be able to pay his generals and this was that quote, it's a bad position for a dictator to bn. in retrospect we therefore see two things

i think we are concerned about north korean rhetoric i mean we are the only country which. is and the strength. of the united states and is a kind of violation of so core. a sort of cold up a conduct among nuclear powers and this kind of behavior is very interest and. american policymakers and. policymakers very much concerned that worried charles what's the mood in china is people in the west getting really upset concerned hysterical is a real danger war and in that part of the world. i go back to your previous question. i think one has to think also about the fact that. a certain american president some years ago declared an axis of evil. whether or not that was the beginning of the bad rhetoric when there's no but as far as china is concerned. there is the short term the medium term in the long term and the key to long term strategic peacefulness or stability and. security for north asia will depend on whether or not the u.s. and china are covering eighty percent and twenty percent russia come to some understanding of north asian or north east asian stability the fundame

korean living in north korea. of thetime they are out military, the age of revolution has already passed. i would be sitting in resetting the obvious if i said north korea today is different from north korea 10 to 20 years ago. in the mid to late 1990's between 600,000 and 3 million north koreans starved to death or died from disease due to attrition. reasonppens -- the main that affect the people of north korea was the well international aid was coming in, the kim regime chose to focus its resources on its strategical course as which is of we know by now, survival. --s regime does not want does not want its people to die by the millions, but if that is what it takes to stay in power, it would do it in the blink of an eye and this is what happened in the 1990's. been some, there have positive side effects. first informers, many more north koreans have escaped the country. as of a couple of weeks ago, koreanere 30,800 north defectors living in south korea. there are 220 north korea defectors indiana state -- in the

in our cases, they go to north korean capabilities. the question is, or to north koreans want in return? we know some of that because they tell us. host: based on what we know of kim jong-un, the way he killed his uncle in that horrific way, his half-brother, is he capable of negotiations? casey stable? -- is he stable? some have said he is nuts. guest: i am not capable of determining whether kim jong-un is nuts. what is important to us is if he is rational, is see the terrible achieving asible plausible outcome. if the answer to those questions then one has to think about the military assets we have to defend the security of our country and allies we have committed to defend, but these are difficult judgments to make. the only way i know of making them with confidence is to try and negotiate. if they fail, you know you must choose between deterrence and military force to deal with the threat. host: i realize this is a "what if" question, but based on what you know of china, if the u.s. did begin some military operation, china support

north korean capabilities grow. we will become more difficult so that's why we're trying to strengthen our defense capabilities so that we will be able to remain committed in the case of crisis contingencies and. always so we are trying to strengthen a trilateral u.s. south korea japan. nation and the security partnership in no the prevent that kind of consequences from my knowledge in japan and south korea are sticking to the idea that sanctions will force into dialogue that for the new york times japan's prime minister shinzo has called on the international community to stay united and force the sanctions but meanwhile even the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley said that maybe sanctions aren't working so why insist on them. sanctions and no walking because because sanctions are not team place yet and already have already adopted the sanctions. it's the time for us to start implementing them and. you know attempts to implement them effective the chinese cooperation is the inevitable indispensable so we're rea

the payment moves through a north korean bank. from there moving left to right from there the funds move to a chinese company and then a front company that accesses u.s. banks. the method relies on a system between north korea and china where the chinese firms and individuals hold these bank accounts. slide two, please. the second method was identified by the justice department based on information from an unnamed north korean defector. chinese entity one on the left side. chinese entity one owes money while north korean entities two owes a similar amount to chinese entities two. the entities pay each other given the difficulties of moving money over the border. the third method was used by a russian company to receive u.s. dollars for shipment of gas oil to north korea. this is very important given the new resolution that restricts energy sales. providing a key vulnerability that washington can exploit. this is why it's crucial for the trump administration to issue fines against chinese banks that are facility north korean sancti

well, right now the north korean programme is very far advanced. and my concern, and a concern shared by other north korean watchers in the community here, is that i applying some of these measures we are actually going to see a situation where the north koreans continue to accelerate their development programme. the idea of a window of opportunity closing and racing for the bomb, if you will. so we are seeing a situation which is becoming increasingly destabilised. the most devastating floods to hit south asia in a decade have killed more than 1,400 people, and focused attention on the lack of preparedness for annual monsoon rains. in many areas, the authorities are struggling to get aid to millions of destitute people. justin rowlatt is in bihar, one of the poorest states in india, and the worst—affected by the floods. they're mixing up huge pots of vegetable curry and dhal. food for those left destitute by the floods. and there is no shortage of demand. i'm helpless, raju tells me. the floods took everything we own. it was terrifying, says kav

down another windy road, north site north koreans consider sacred, a cabin near mount paektu north koreans claim is the birth place of kim jong-un. the guide tells of his supposedly mystical birth. >>>translator: the say was gold and the weather not normal, but the day it the general was born, the sun began shining through. everything was bright. and a quiet calm took over. the flowers bloomed and in the sky was a particularly bright star. >> is that a legend or did that actually happen? >>>translator: yes, it actually happened. it's not a legend. our general is really a person who heaven sent to us. so he changed the weather, too. it's a true story. >> people from the outside hear these stories and wonder ou any of this can possibly be true. >>>translator: it's hard to explain in one word, but our general is so great we can't say it's only a legend. nature transformed itself to announce the birth of our general to the whole world. blessing it. that's how it happened. >> i realize for north koreans, this is their faith, just like the bible, koran or torea. when they come to mount paektu th

to raise the cost of north korean defines, the u.s. must go beyond sanctions and diplomacy to include a full court press to economically isolate north korea from the international community. for too long success i u.s. administrations have used sanctions as a calibrated and diplomatic response to north korean provocations rather than a law enforcement measure defending the tus financial system. the u.s. should target any entity suspected of aiding or abetting north korean missile and arms development, money laundering or the import of luxury goods. beijing has not paid a price for turning a blind eye to north korean proliferation and illicit activity occurring on chinese saw. washington has long cowered out of fear of undermining perceived assistance in pressuring north korea. the enhancement act mandates secondary sanctions on third county banks and companies that violate u.s. sanctions and u.s. law. the u.s. should penalize all penalties including chinese financial institutions and businesses that trade with those on the sanctions li

even to a north korean living in north korea. by the time they are of the military, the age of revolution has already passed. of course, i would be stating and restating the obvious if i said that north korea today is different from north korea 10 or 20 years ago as we all remember. in the mid-to-late 1990s, between its hundred thousand and 3 million north koreans starved to death or died of disease induced by malnutrition. this happened, the main reason behind this great tragedy that affected the people in north korea was that mild international aid was coming and, they came regime chose to focus its resources on its fundamentals strategical objectives that i know the ambassador will mention later which is of course, as you all know by now, survival. of course, this regime does not want its people to die by the millions. but, if that is what it takes, in order to stay in power than it will do it in the blink of an eye. this is what happened in the 1990s. ever since, if i may say so, there have been some positive side effects fir

we're waiting to hear from north koreans. also waiting to hear from the south koreans, the americans, the japanese about what their response is going to be to this. right now we know that they're analyzing the swiegs. they're trying to determine what took place. and then what their next step is going to be. but this is the second development today coming from north korea. earlier in the day, we were told -- we saw on north korean state media that the country has been able to miniaturize a nuclear weapon and put it on an intercontinental ballistic missile. that's a major development, too. so really two major documents coming from north korea today, isha. >> that has not been verified, just as is the case with this explosion, it hasn't been confirmed it's a nuclear test. how difficult will it be to confirm, to verify either of these two issues? -- well, to verify -- >> we still have you. go ahead, ian. >> to verify these issues is going to be a task. what we've seen in the past is you have american aircraft, japanese aircraft,

today is a milestone for the north koreans. you can be sure they will be celebrating this in the days ahead as well as the september 9 foundation day that is coming up on saturday. but there is a chance that kim jong-un said he needed to protect the country from the threat of the u.s. he may be ready to take a step back and talk to the u.s. i think it's very important for washington to make sure they get their messaging right and they coordinate with the allies in the region so they are all on the same page. >> that's an interesting idea. and potentially a silver lining if i follow your analysis, you're essentially telling us there might be a level of military readiness for north korea. when it attains that level, may be ready to talk to the u.s.? >> indeed. i cannot speak for the north koreans -- >> but you see a potential window of opportunity there? >> there have been windows of opportunity that the trump administration has missed from the start of this administration. so it's very important right now to make sure to read th

then the north koreans say "game on." at that point, the american president has to decide the south koreans can probably handle this themselves, they probably don't need our help in terms of with standing on north korean invasion. north korea has one million people in its army, but the south korean army is extremely robust. maybe they don't need our help, maybe they can handle this. why would a u.s. president blink, why would a u.s. president hesitate? because to join in the fight against north korea is to create the possibility, certainly the northan zero, koreans would attack the u.s.. given pretty fanciful, the disparity and what we know to be the north korean capabilities, why would they ever attack north korea -- attack south korea? ,he north koreans also believe just ask one of them, that somehow south korea is a creature, and a creation of the united states. if you can just get the u.s. off of the peninsula, many south koreans would somehow welcome some kind of unification. when, pretty hard to take you look at the

korean orchestra to a north korean audience. there was a moment where it looked like there might be a breakthrough, and, indeed, that visit and negotiations around it led to a very visible halt in their nuclear program. this, of course, was a plutonium nuclear program, it wasn't the uranium nuclear program. we went into the reactor. we saw them literally moth ball it. we saw them taking apart very, very important components, literally saran wrap them, put them away from any kind of ability to use them. we watched them from a certain distance actually blow up the identifying cooling tower of the nuclear reactor there at yongbyon, outside of pyongyang, the capital. for a moment it looked like there was a possibility there could be a halt or at least a stop to this program. and then it didn't work and kim jong-il died and kim -- the current leader, kim jong-un, succeeded him, and it has been confrontational ever since. what they want, we have been told now by the only diplomats, only officials from the united states that have actua

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the north korean famine of the late 1990s, hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of north koreans died of starvation. >> translator: we ate tree bark after going up to the mountain for food and wandered just how long we'll have to do this, but it's not a problem now compared to that. this is all home grown. >> after farming for a year we get rice and money to live off of. which is great. this house, i got it for free. >>im gives me a tour. like every north koreaniving room, there are portraits of the late leaders. >> translator: this is a photo of our family and the general when he came to visit. >> off dvd player here, what kind of dvds do you like to watch? >> translator: cooking and lifestyle, new songs, movies, i watch a lot of them. >> have you ever seen any western movies? >> translator: we don't watch them. we wouldn't even if we could. >> he does watch state tv. and he listens to propaganda broadcasts on the radio. but his favorite ritual, like many of his generation, reading the newspaper. how important is the state media to getting information about what's happening? >>

the prompt adoption of new sanctions against the north korean regime. the stringent and limitation of existing sanctions by all stakeholders, and lastly the adoption of additional measures by the european union. time is ticking. let us be aware of this. we know pyongyang has not hesitated, will not hesitate even at the cost of the lives of its people to breach the most basic rules we have set forth in terms of nonproliferation and beyond. this is a major and avowed undermining of all foundations of our systems of law and security. we cannot countenance this. we share ay, responsibility to uphold this and reinforce this. our credibility is at stake. to those who believe that the willingness of dialogue in the international community is lacking. the present conditions -- it is evident north korea has not given the slightest signal, not the slightest pledge of a possible willingness to negotiate on its nuclear ballistic missiles. given the contempt for international law, we must not compromise. decisionsn of our own cannot be subject to bargaining. we cann

the prompt adoption of new sanctions against the north korean regime. the stringent and limitation of existing sanctions by all stakeholders, and lastly the adoption of additional measures by the european union. time is ticking. let us be aware of this. we know pyongyang has not hesitated, will not hesitate even at the cost of the lives of its people to breach the most basic rules we have set forth in terms of nonproliferation and beyond. this is a major and avowed undermining of all foundations of our systems of law and security. we cannot countenance this. we share ay, responsibility to uphold this and reinforce this. our credibility is at stake. to those who believe that the willingness of dialogue in the international community is lacking. the present conditions -- it is evident north korea has not given the slightest signal, not the slightest pledge of a possible willingness to negotiate on its nuclear ballistic missiles. given the contempt for international law, we must not compromise. decisionsn of our own cannot be subject to bargaining. we cann

american south american side simply doesn't talk to the north koreans there are no talks you know so when they see him going wouldn't talk would negotiate then maybe you can see refused to have a negotiation. and i would say that you know very strangely maybe providence you know the board is create a new security system in the world but i. don't because basically if you have like the wild west you know there are two ways to have security you either have a good sheriff and then it makes sense to legalize weapons or if the sheriff is mad or an adequate then let everyone have to be buried so that's what i'm doing on this and let everyone have weapons and then the wars will stop in the same way shooting stopped in the american wild west when people had weapons so there are two points here coming on the back of what. tom just became president there were. members rumors in the state department indeed north korean delegation was about to get visas to come to the united states people from the north korean institute for american studies and their foreign ministry and have. normal serious nego

korean regime, such as, for example, the textile sector and north korean workers. i am referring also to the important restrictions placed on the exports of oil to north korea. and this resolution also strengthens the tools we have at our disposal in order to prevent the avoidance of sanctions, in particular in the maritime area. the last report of our exports confirmed this, the north korean regime is becoming increasingly creative when it comes to avoiding sanctions that have been placed on it. well, let's react to it by also being very creative. mr. president, this is not just simply being determined and resolute in words. the sanctions are not a leitmotif without a goal. they're not an end in themselves. area united reaction, a firm and unequivocal response today meets an objective. on the one hand we're reacting to the unjustifiable attitude by pyongyang and also avoiding sending any signal of impunity given violations of our own resolutions. but also, and as i said, it also maximizes the pressure on the north korean regime and does this in order to bring them

korean workers raising money for the north korean regime and also a total ban on oil and petroleum sales to north korea the original version also had the north korean leader designated for an asset freeze and a travel ban those will come out of the new draft the aim is to get the russians and chinese on board so it is a weaker resolution and i put to the british ambassador was arriving to the meeting matthew ryecroft the fact that you've added some new sanction areas here particularly on textiles but north korea hasn't taken any notice of sanctions in the past first of all these are significantly tougher sanctions secondly you're right that's actually take time to have an impact but it's only over the last year also that the security council has been sanctioning sectors of the economy and the textile sector is the final sector of the economy that is not until tonight subject to a battle on exports so this is a very significant tightening up still further of the constraints on the north korean regime. the big question is how russia and the chinese are going to vote they clearly didn't lik

american south american side simply doesn't talk to the north koreans there are no talks you know so when they see him going wouldn't talk would negotiate them he can say refuse to have a negotiation. and i would say that you know very strangely he may be you know the board is create a new security system in the world why the short ugly. because basically if you have like the wild west you know there are two ways to have security either have a good sheriff and then it makes sense to legalize weapons or if the sheriff is mad or an adequate then let everyone have to be buried so that's what i'm doing on this and let everyone have weapons and then the wars will stop in the same way shootin stopped in the american wild west when people had weapons so there are two points here coming up but what. if you. just became president there were. members rumors in the state department that indeed north korean delegation was about to get visas to come to the united states people from the north korean institute for american studies and their foreign ministry and care for and you go she was normal se

korean government simply for being a member of the north korean government. so i think we can and should go after not only kim jong un, but the other senior leaders. >> okay. along those same questions, mr. klingner, is that right? okay, sorry, could you discuss the potential for north korea to assist countries such as iran in developing nuclear weapons and advance ballistic missiles? >> as mr. albright was saying before, i think there's clearly been a missile relationship between north korea and iran. i mean, the first missiles that iran paraded were actually 100% made in north korea. they were no-dongs and given a local paint job. the information on nuclear cooperation is much more difficult to get. we know north korea was engaged in, you know, nuclear cooperation with pakistan through the aq khan network in libya and others, but the information on cooperation with iran is much more difficult to get, particularly outside of government. i think there clearly is a relationship on the nuclear side between the two countries, but it's very hard to get particular

do you think talking to the north korean ‘s works though? is kim jong—un likely to respond to diplomacy? well, north koreans have been saying for quite some time that they want to renegotiate the relationship between the united states and north korea. they have developed this programme under all the sanctions, so i think ruling out military intervention, which would bea military intervention, which would be a catastrophe on a scale we have not seen, talks seem like the best outcome. we're looking at pictures of kim jong—un inspecting what the north koreans are saying is a hydrogen bomb, and their press release from the news agencies in pyongyang, they say that all the components of the h—bomb were home—made. do you think that is realistic, in terms of where they are technology is at? —— where their technology is at? well, they rely on external help, so with more sanctions, they are compelled to develop indigenous technologies. so i wouldn't be surprised if this was something they developed on their own. of course, we were saying

i ask about a time most north koreans didn't have enough to eat, the north korean famine of the late 1990s, hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of north koreans died of starvation. >> we ate tree bark after going up to the mountain for food and wondered just how long we'll have do this but it's not a problem now compared to that. this is all home grown. after farming for a year, we get rice and money to live off of, which is great. this house, i got it for free. >> he gives me a tour. like every north korean living room, there portraits of the late leaders. >> translator: this is a photo of our family and the general when he came to visit. >> you have a dvd player here. what kind of dvds do you like to watch? >> translator: cooking and lifestyle, new songs, movies. i watch a lot of them. >> you have ever seen any western movies? >> translator: no, we don't watch them. we wouldn't even if we could. >> he does watch state tv, and he listens to propaganda broadcasts on the radio. but his favorite ritual, like many of his generation, reading the newspaper. how important is the state

we need to have the north korean -- make a north koreans believe that threat is credible. and we have to be arm in arm with our allies. i thought president trump very unwisely accused the south koreans of appeasement. in a tweet over the weekend. he also threatened to withdraw the united states from the south korea free-trade agreement. if there was a time when you needed a united front -- japan, south korea, the united states, against north korea, it's now. third, i think they will have to wrestle with washington, whether or not we could enter into some kind of negotiation down the road, not right now, that would lead to some satisfactory outcome, some kind of freeze on north korea's program, very difficult to achieve. it would be extremely irresponsible to drive this if you hadn't given what david ignatius was talking about. secretary tillerson wanting to get to the table and talk to this regime, i think that has to happen sometime in the next several months. charlie: what does the murder -- regime want? clear what the intentions of kim jong-un are, other than everything

for cyber capabilities for north korean cyber attacks? >> on the amendment in terms of anything that suggests that firms need to do better at identifying north korean companies. i think an amendment like that and the bill that's on the floor that is proposed by the committee, the main goal is diligence and making sure that the d.o.d. and others do not do transactions. i would point out there has been some focus and some reports recently i believe this week that north korea is looking at other cyber naval technologies i believe from south korea. that is certainly a different turn from their activities. >> do you think these fans are an effective deterrent? >> i think they would akuwaequam with a chinese bank. they actually agreed to that and it was because zte was caught doing the transactions. i would point out there are some north korean front companies that are caught up. >> do you think it would be a deterrent? >> i think for the chinese leadership. look, if you're a senior official. >> what other entities provide most material support

how has the north korean economy grown by 50%? >> the best answer is because they have been allowed to do that by a broad culture of noncompliance and nonenforcement with sanctions. >> even if there were no sanctions, 50% economic growth, i want to put this in context, their economy is only $15 billion today. they use as much oil in the whole country is 150 gas stations. i have a hundred 50 gas stations on ventura boulevard. we are dealing with relatively small moles. >> the german yields back. gentleman yields back. -- i think each of you today. as you may know, i offered an thatment that was adopted would prohibit the defense department from doing business with chinese entities that provide material support to north korea's cyber attacks. mr. ruggiero, in your opinion, is my amendment an appropriate response? >> on the amendment, in terms of that suggests that firms need to do better at identifying north korea transactions and companies, i think an amendment like that, and the bill that is on the floor, or proposed by the commit

korean coal or maybe north korean seafood and the food products industry. this is going to be difficult to do and lavrov is signaling what the russian intent which is this was said of course before the latest test so they may have a change of mind after this latest test but we may have to do this unilateral or with allies. >> trish: why do you think it's difficult? is it difficult from just procedural process, the treasury department has to go out and identify all these people and it's a little bit of a puzzle figuring out where all of the money is going or is it difficult because there is some economic hardship involved possibly for us? >> reporter: well, not so much the latter. it is the former. >> trish: okay. >> reporter: but also sending a very strong message to the chinese which is okay, you can continue to play this game of having a big bump up in trade in the first part of the year and then agreeing to significant sanctions and we have to give the chinese credit and see if they follow through on it but they said we're going to stop buying the things

minute speech, saying that, calling the north korean leaderjim -- kim calling the north korean leaderjim —— kimjong—un, calling the north korean leaderjim —— kim jong—un, rocket calling the north korean leaderjim —— kimjong—un, rocket man, making the use of those rockets against the us all the more inevitable. the speech took aim at donald trump and that the united nations for imposing sanctions against north korea, sanctions against north korea, sanctions which the country they believe to be deeply unfair and portraying north korea as the victim in this, basically the victim of bullying by the united states. it is followed by a week in which we have seen a followed by a week in which we have seen a ratcheting up of the rhetoric. president trump vowing to totally destroy north korea if it was posing a serious threat to the us or its allies. the north korean leader responding by calling donald trumpa leader responding by calling donald trump a mentally deranged us dotard. against the advice it would appear of senior aides, against the advice it would appear of senioraide

they launched a stern diplomatic protest with the north korean embassy. they declared it would be unfair given that china has worked hard and had its interest jeopardized. talks opposite, it said between the u.s. and north korea. it will probably want more of those and may well propose a dual suspension of south korean military exercises and any further tests. analysts say, like much of the world, china does not have any good options. be available. textile workers in china would provide needed cash. cutting off oil is another respite as well. any action before next party congress is very unlikely. this is the main event of the whole year for president xi jinping and they needed to go smoothly and i do anything to jeopardize that. host: thomas and moscow, you just said the russians think diplomacy is the way to try and solve this problem. have they given some clear or distinct ideas as to what or how that should be done? thing beingonly made public is it should be diplomacy, not there any kind of military intervention. considers north korea's public -- not

koreans didn't reciprocate properly the north koreans like a lot of countries i would say maybe all countries are proud they don't want to be threatened and they shouldn't be threatened i mean the united states is a nuclear power has an affirmative obligation to get rid of its nuclear weapons but it's not in its nuclear weapons under obama and i mean it's the u.s. that's in violation of the n.p.t. and the other nuclear powers that are not doing what they must do to guarantee to small countries that don't have nuclear weapons that they don't need to get nuclear weapons so sort of if i go back to you and watch and. they let me make it or go back to other guests in washington near i want to stick with this question i mean again if you read western media and you come out we know the state department you know north korea is much is made like you dislike the regime i'm looking at the soften t. of countries and i'm going to echo what brian said there i mean north korea has a right to protect itself all right and i think that that's that simple message never gets filtered out into a wider a

korea after north korean nuclear the weekend. viewer consist stay here. the see you back on "washington journal." >> a meeting requested by the u.s., japan, great britain and south korea in response to north korea's latest test. south korea believes the north is preparing more missile launches including an intercontinental ballistic missile. the estimated test with five times larger than the previous tests. president trump said we will see when asked whether the u.s. will attack north korea. he said the u.s. is considering stopping all trade with any country that does business with north korea. >> once again you're watching a live picture from new york city, an emergency meeting called by the u.s., great britain, japan and south korea in response to north korea's latest nuclear test. we saw u.s. ambassador nikki haley minutes ago and we are waiting for this to get underway. live coverage on c-span. ♪ >> the meeting of the security council is called to order. as this is the first public meeting of the council for the month of se