information that the bureau is aware of as well. >> thank you. mr. walker? >> again, i agree. >> and did any of your companies return ad revenue to the russians? meaning that did they make money on this? >> mr. walker? >> so we in some cases we had sites such as rt that would show ads against their content and they made money from those ads. that's correct. the same is true beyond the internet because rt is on saturday light stations, cable, hotel television networks. they buy advertisements in magazines, airports, et cetera. >> so if i understand this right russia ran an interference campaign, attacked our democracy, sought to undermine our ability to choose, and they made money on it? >> so rt shows advertising on all the platforms we discussed. cable.

you for what you're doing, and the efforts -- when i heard mr. walker just say -- my previous conversation with the other two companies. you're investing significant corporate resources. and putting weight behind what you've made today. the numbers on our -- the five exhibits we showed, and certainly the two that mr. schiff showed, can you tell us what the difference is between a depression and an ad click is, some brief comment as to context. those look stunningly impressive on their face. a broader backdrop, could you help us put that in context? >> an impression congressman is content that is in view for a user, it doesn't necessarily mean that a user stopped and viewed. if you think about how you use your phone, and you open up an app and scroll through it, anything in there would be an impression. a click means engagement with the ad. with these ads in particular, the click may have been to like a content for example. >> how much influence did these ads and information, miss information have. are there metrics you use as part of your evaluation of your normal business mod

recognize you and then mr. walker. >> chairman, vice chairman warren ir and distinguished members of the committee, thank you for this opportunity to appear before you today. my name is collin stretch, and i have served as the general counsel of facebook. we appreciate this committee's hard work to investigate russian interference in the 2016 election. at facebook our mission is to create technology that gives people the power to build community and bring the world closer together. we are proud that each of you uses facebook to connect with jr. constituents and e we understand the people you represent expect authentic experiences when they come to our platform to share and connect. we also believe that we have an important role to play in the democratic process and a responsibility to protect it on our platforms. that's why we take what's happened on facebook so seriously. the foreign interference we saw during the 2016 election is reprehensible. that foreign actors hiding behind fake accounts abused our platform and other internet services to try to sew division and discord and t

people of puerto rico. i welcome mr. walker, i supported your nomination and i'm sure you're the right man to help, but you should hear loud and clear we need to do more. the white fish contract in puerto rico raised particular concerns. in addition to the gao reviewing the matter, the inspector general in the department of homeland scary reviewing the matter and according to a wall street journal report, the fbi is also best getting. according to a new york times report, the electrical workers subcontracted by white fish were paid $42 an hour, lineman 63, and yet whitefish built the government $319. hour. even if that figure is abnormally high because it included exorbitant charges for room and board, why would a contract specify a separate charge for room and board. the welfare of the puerto rico people, to rebuild the island is my number one concern. i will not stop making sure that the u.s. taxpayer is not couched in this process. let's be very clear about this. the reason why my state as many natural disasters, the reason why your mutual aid contract is to rebuild at cost. t

partners needs to do more for the people of puerto rico. i welcome mr. walker here today, i supported your nomination and you and i'm sure you are it right man to epihad but youicide hear loud and clear that we need do more. the white fish contract in puerto rico raised particular concerns. it homeland security reviewing the matter and according to a wall street journal report the fbi is also investigating. the florida workers contracted by whitefish were paid $42 on an hour, lineman 63 and yet whitefish billed the government of utility $319 an hour. even if that figure is abnormally high because it ifcluded absorbitant charges for room and board, why would a contract specify a separate charge for room and board? it welfare of the puerto rico people to rebuild the island is my number one concern but i will not stop making sure that the u.s. taxes payer is not gouged in this process. let's be very clear about this. the reason why my state has many storms and many natural disasters, the reason why you have mutual aid contracts is to rebuild at cost. that is what a mutual aid contract is

. mr. bruce walker is the assistant secretary for it office of electricity, delivery and inhad aerj reliability at the u.s. department energy. i will noette he as been on the job here for about a month, i believe and as soon as he was sworn in, he was sent to puerto rico or he volunteered to go to puerto rico and has been there much of the time and on the ground. so i think we'll have a great deal to share with us this morning. and we're also joined by major general donald e. jackson jr. the deputy commanding civil for it u.s. army core of engineer that has been tasked to address the grid system there. in puerto rico. so gentleman, we welcome you to the committee. observe governor governors, we certainly appreciate that you have travelled to be with us this morning and appreciate your time. ank you, chairman markowsdki and ranking member cantwell. i would also like to give special thanks to senator mar kousky and all the members of both house and senate who have taken the time to come to puerto rico and bare witness to the island. it is impossible to describe the fury and vileance t

minutes. thank you for what you're doing and the efforts. i heard mr. walker just said you are investing significant resources and putting weight behind the commitments made today b the numbers that we shod to nicolas the difference between the ad into the click edit under brief comments does look impressive on the face. an impression is the content that is in view for the user it doesn't necessarily mean the user stopped and viewed if you open up the tab and scroll through if anythin with anythine an impression and engagement with the ad so with these it may have been to like the content for example, so a lot of the questions is how much influence did these have been part of the metrics that you use into the evaluation and the business model is if you are trying to help the company develop a program we are going to show you we think it will have this kind of impact. are there tools you can use to evaluate what impact they might or might not have had with respect to the opinions on who to vote for? >> we have tools to help advertisers measure their return on investment. those are typical

why have you not shut down r t on you tube it's a propaganda machine mr walker r t push what we might call fake news it's can't just shut it down but making life miserable that it's caton by law america will now have to put this disclaimer on all of its work if we show you a video of a fireman in texas rescuing a kitten well that's brought to you by the russian government every twitter account of america over its correspondents has to have that disclaimer in its bio problemi is that it doesn't fit into the bio which means that america can't be on twitter. we'll also have to send copies of everything that publishes to the us government reports videos and even tweets within forty eight hours everything must be ready for inspection at any time. so how is journalists reacting freedom of speech groups and all that well here is how outraged they are i'm afraid i'm not we'll enough informed about this particular topic to report anything of substance to your viewers well that's surprising and here i thought it was all over the news for weeks ok next response the office of the or a c. re

is yours mr. walker. >> thanks for the opportunity to speak with you today lamp senior vice president i oversee legal and with our teams i looked at one basket the intersection of technology security for over 25 years starting my career as an assistant u.s. attorney for the u.s. department of justice focus on technology. i will start a conversation by acknowledging the victims and families from the attack is a new york yesterday we know how strong and tough yorkers are we look forward to doing everything we can to help googlies we have a responsibility to prevent the misuse of our platforms and we take very seriously so to organize the information to make a universally accessible everything else is inevitable to that message -- mission we're deeply concerned we are committed to working with congress and law enforcement and others in the industry to string them protections around elections to help combat misinformation we appreciate the opportunity to share information although these propaganda campaigns are not new with media publications over the years for many years we hav

? if it's not 2 and 20. mr. walker: people that do hedge funds as an asset class -- in my mind, it's a skill class. there are people of radically different skill levels competing in the notion that they all should get paid the same fees from clients is absurd. erik: should it be more outcome driven? mr. walker: i think that would be a constructive place to be. there have been a number of folks that have been leaders on this for, the folks -- the texas teachers have been some of the most aggressive. the one or 30 model is an interesting one. there's no right or wrong answer. anything that generates closer alignment between our folks fundamentally delivering for their clients and are they being compensated at realistic levels? not at the levels that have happened historically, is a good thing. ♪ >> if you look at the indices, the emerging markets index, the u.s. index, japan index, tech is bigger in emerging markets than even the u.s. and japan, which is quite remarkable. this is because of the incredible impact of the smartphones being sold around the world. 70% of those sales are i

twitter and its benefits and risks. >> mr. walker? >> we have been looking at cyber espionage for some years. we may not have visibility as to whether individual users are veterans or not. >> these questions are for facebook. in a blog published the chief security officer wrote the company discovered about 3,000 political ads paid through pages that likely operated out of russia. facebook shut down these accounts on the grounds that they were inauthentic. had these accounts not violated facebook's prohibition against fake accounts where they had been shut down? >> senator, many of them would have because many of them violated other policies related to the type of content that is permitted on the platform theathianticity issue is the key. referring to the content you surfaced earlier it pains us as a company, it pains me personally to see that we were, that our platform was abused in this way. people in this country care deeply about issues of public concern and one of the strengths of our country that people are so willing to speak freely about them. the fact that foreign actors w

walker. >> mr. james? >> oscar james again. since we're talking about fake news, i want to talk about president trump and thank him for meeting the president of puerto rico. >> my gosh. >> he said it. he said it. anyway, what i came up -- what i came up with, a young -- a young person from my community came up to me. he's trying to get a food truck on 4th street. i talked to ms. woods, and they're going to make a presentation to the director and also to the attorney. this young man, he has -- he bought a food cart, spent his money to buy a food cart, and i really admire him. and i admire my young brothers in my community who venture out into business for themselves. so i told him i was going to come up, and i was going to mention it to you before. well, i hadn't had a chance to talk to ms. woods, but i did talk to her out in the hallway, so i'm not as -- i'm not as -- i'm not going to be as vocal as i was because i thought it was a racist thing and it's not -- it's not turning out to be like that. but i definitely want this young man to be able to house his food cart. he sells tacos a

the gentleman from north carolina, mr. walker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from north carolina is recognized for one minute. mr. walker: thank you, mr. speaker. today it's not just about tax reform. today is also about what we fundamentally believe as a nation. today we say working class families not the government are best equipped to make financial decisions. did we hear anything from our democrat friends for nearly eight years about lowering taxes on middle and lower income? we did not. now for the first time since 1986, we're going to overhaul our broken tax code. here's what it means for families in north carolina. middle income families will see more than $2,300 increase in their take-home pay. the tax cuts in jobs acts means more than 30,000 new jobs in north carolina. i am encouraged our senate colleagues have decided to include the obamacare mandate repeal and would urge our house conference to consider as well. last, i would like to thank chairman brady. there is no greater servant man would in the united states house. thank you to his work, his team, today w

morning and testifying. previous panel there was a question that was asked, i think it was of mr. walker. and the question was of whether or not the disaster relief money could go to bond holders to satisfy that lean, and he said he was confident that the disaster relief money coming from the united states could not be utilized by the bond holders to satisfy the lean. do you feel the same way? are you confident in that statement as well? >> yes, i am. we achieved a comfort order in the court, in the title 3 courts to assure everyone, in particular the federal government agencies that their grant funlding could not be used in that way. >> thank you. and then to respond to senator franken's last question. i'm curious as well to what your answer is. >> well, the tools we've been given by promesa in particular have to do with misical plans and budgetings. we will then review and discuss with a goal to certify that by february 2nd. that fiscal plan is basically a 5-year pz plan and followed by a single operating budget to ensure we actually are fulfilling that fiscal plan. beyond the

. stretch and mr. walker. >> gentlemen, being respectful to the other members of the committee, i ask you be brief in your responses, please. >> i will be brief. yes, we do have an obligation to prevent foreign interference in the election and take that obligation seriously. there are nor details in my written testimony as to how we're attempting to discharge that. with respect to theal go rhythm question, our goal is to provide the most relevant information to users and primarily driven by friends and family. that's the core use case of facebook, we want you to come to facebook and see information that's important to you, typically that's the information that's important to your friends and family. and now in a political election season, often times what's important to you friends and family are challenging provocative social issues and you will see that. our responsibility is to make sure when you see that content, it's authentic so you can trust the dialogue that's occurring on the platform. >> adam schiff trying to get answers out of facebook and google and twitter representatives tod

asked, i think it was of mr. walker. the question was whether or not the disaster relief money could go to bondholders to satisfy that leniency response. let disaster relief money coming from the united states cannot be utilized by the bondholders to satisfy, do you feel the same way? of thected on behalf of veterans, and achieved a comfort older in the title iii courts to everyone and their grant funding could not be used in that way. >> to respond to senator i'mken's last question, curious what your answer is. >> the tools that we have been given have to do with plans and budgeting. we are in the process of physical plants from public, we will then review and discuss with a goal to certify by february 2. the fiscal plan is a five-year business plan, then it will be followed a single annual operating budget to ensure that we are fulfilling their business plan. beyond the physical plans -- beyond the fiscal plans, we have a contract policy that we have begun to review all contracts over $10 million as well as using that contract review many have asked about how this affects the

analysis? >> i would have to follow up with you, congressman. >> mr. walker? >> same answer. >> do you share a concern that that analysis has not been done and that the russians did use cutouts and there are far more ads out there that they used beyond the 120 million-plus views that occurred that we know about. >> we did try to link accounts and look across a number of identifiers. it may have picked up things like this. we were trying to be as exhaustive in our search as we could. i just don't know if -- >> it's been going on like this for a long time, by the way. in front of the senate intelligence committee, all reps admitted they were not satisfied with their platform's response to the meddling. this is going to take part in a minute. jo has been following this in capitol hill. every time i get an e-mail from you about what more you've heard, at no point does my jaw not drop more. >> right, and that's what the congresspeople here are invoking. they're clearly not satisfied. we're standing outside the third of three hearings, ali. we just heard from the facebook general counsel

>> yes. >> yes, absolutely. >> mr. walker? >> absolutely. >> reporter: there is one more hearing today, but, of course, this work is not over. because there were votes happening during this hearing, the chair asked for seven additional days for any member of the committee to follow up with questions and several senators, scott, had specific follow-ups and assignments for these companies. >> kayla, thank you very much. kayla tausche following that story for us on the hill our next guest has been very outspoken about these very issues jason calacanis is an angel investor jason, welcome back. it's been a while. >> thanks for having me. >> senator manchin called out these companies saying the ceos should have been there was that a mistake >> yeah. that was a huge strategic mistake on the part of zuckerberg and, of course, google and twitter it shows a complete lack of respect for the democracy that allowed them to receive tens of billions of dollars in wealth. in fact, zuckerberg is on a 50-state tour so he has time to visit 50 states and meet with farmers and cops and firefighters,

there was a question that was asked. i think it was of mr. walker. and the question was whether or not the disaster relief money could go to bond holders to satisfy that lien. and he responded he was confident through i think some of the attorneys and fema that the disaster relief money coming from the united states could not be utilized by the bond holder to satisfy the lien. do you feel the same way? are you confident in that statement as well? >> yes, i am, ma'am. as well we worked on behalf of the debt and achieved a comfort order in the title three court to assure everyone in particular the federal government agencies that their grant funding could not be used in that way. >> thank you. and then to respond to senator franken's last question because i noticed you were ready to respond, i'm curious as well what your answer is. >> well, the tools that we've been given by -- in particular have to do with fiscal plans and bupting so we're in the process of asking for a revised fiscal plan from prepa which will be do you december 22nd. we'll certify that by february 2nd. it is a fiv

and testifying. previous panel there was a question that was asked, i think it was mr. walker. in the question was whether or not the disaster relief money to go to bondholders to satisfy that link and responded he was confident that the disaster relief money come from the united states could not be utilized by the bondholders to satisfy the lien. do you feel the same way? >> sim. we acted on behalf of the data and behalf of the commonwealth and filed, received a comfort order in the title to record to ensure everyone, in particular the federal government agencies their grant funding could not be used in that way. >> thank you. then to respond to senator franken said last question because i noticed you ready to respond or countries as well what your answer is. >> the tools we been given by a particular to do with physical plans and budgets we're in the process of asking for a revised fiscal plan from prepa which will be due that book 22nd we will review and discuss with the goal to certify that by februar. that place is a five-year business plan and then it will be followed by a singl

much money black people are making on that project. [applause] >> thank you mr. walker. are there any other speakers? hearing none and seeing none and i will turn to my fellow commissioners for their questions or comments. >> yes, i would like to thank sean and len ar and five points for their detailed and good presentation. and i would like to thank joy, i think she left with that young gentleman who came and spoke i really appreciated hearing the stories of individuals who have benefited from the funding from this program as well as the nun who mentioned how much money has been spent on uniforms. sister little see -- sister lilly. over 40,000 and that's a remarkable number and also the remarkable graduation rate, 100% going to college. that is -- [applause] and then also the contribution to letting these students know the type of fields that are out there especially healthcare, healthcare is an induce tremendous that's not going away and my mother worked in healthcare for 40 years, not only working there you also get benefits on your prescription and medical services and someone in

recognize the gentleman from north carolina mr. walker for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you for your prompt leadership in this very certainly important issue. i would like to thank my colleagues for their earlier testimony, the people that have spoken on this. i'm grateful to stand with such staunch representatives to make the house of representatives a respectable and safe place to work for our colleagues. this type of behavior should never be tolerated here or in any other work environment. i believe we should lead by example and set the tone for the nation and leading by example, i was encouraged by our chairman to strongly encourage members of this committee so we have gone certainly in our entire staff. i'm also chairman of the republican committee so all 28 staffers as well as my staff have gone through some of the very clear and productive training and i hope that it will lead to even more. ms. child's wattlace, earlier this month, the board of directors wrote to the speaker of the house reiterating its call for mandatory antidiscrimination and antiharassme

victim, mr. tobias walker by controlling his severe bleeding before he reached the hospital here. it required an unusual amount of hemorrhage control because of his condition t skills they used are basic skills that can be taught to the general public. because we know that ems can't be everywhere, law enforcement can't be everywhere at the same time, often if you're going to be involved in some type of an event where you're injured or bleeding, the first responder may be your buddy, may be your husband, your wife, your friend or it may be a total stranger. so the stop-the-bleed campaign is an initiative to teach the majority of the populous of the country basic bleeding control techniques. so yesterday as in yesterday's terrible shooting in southerland springs shows us, along with other mass casualty events in the last several years, we can never know when these skills may be important to us. but they will be important. before i bring the first responders up to recognize their heroic efforts, i want to speak a little bit about the events of the mass casualty event that unfolded here

mr. walker suggested earlier and we are focused on making sure any actors that are seeking to undermine democracy anywhere are removed from the platform. >> if you had to take productive action against those in that debate who are not as they reported to be? >> the key progress that we have made. >> we are moving the user accounts from the services. >> given the discussion we've had of automated twitter accounts into the range is obviously very wide, but we know that is a problem. you made the assertion i want to come back to make sure that it's accurate. do you require an agreement that profiles the link or some other way to make sure those who back for other unique identifiers? >> when you require some information sign up but not to verify the identity. we have services on the platform. >> why on earth not? >> we see them being used by political dissidents and journalists in difficult countries who used the ability y to not have to identify themselves by name to speak the truth to power. >> said the reason is that social discipline and people in third world countries were aw

. one of the elders said to me, i was not governor, he said mr. walker, my goal as a grandfather is to see one of my grandchildren flush a toilet in their village. the infrastructure needs to be paid for out of the resources. that was the deal we made with congress when we became a state. we need the benefits of the bargain. we need it now. as i came into office, $1.6 billion deficit that grew to $3.7 billion deficit. i have had to do things i hope no future governor has to do. we made difficult decisions. i said no to help for funding. we closed facilities and laid off thousands of people. we have reduced our budget by $1.7 billion. it's tough to do. that hurts. public safety, alaskans don't feel safe right now. we are having a special session as we speak to bring that safety back. you know, i signed recently, a third of this week, a climate change administrative order. we have a climate change team. eaed with dress that in alaska. we looked at climate change. it's impacted alaska. we relocated 12 villages. i have been to smaller. but we cannot do it without the financial resources

will not recognize the gentleman from north carolina, mr. walker for 5 , minutes. >> thank you for your prompt leadership in this important issue. i would like to thank my colleagues for the earlier testimony. people that have spoken on this important issue. i'm grateful to stand with such staunch advocates to make the house of representatives a respectful and safe environment for our fellow colleagues. decades,ster for two sadly i have heard too many similar stories over the years. this type of behavior should never be tolerated here or any other work environment. i think we should lead by example and set the tone for the nation and in leading by example, i was encouraged by the chairman to strongly encourage members of this committee so we have gone certainly our entire staff and i'm also the chairman of the republican study staffers aso all 28 well as myself have gone through some productive training and i hope that will lead to even more. earlier this month the board of director wrote to the speaker of of how senate president pro tem from antidiscrimination and anti-progress in

the attempt to ensure that mr. walker or mr. marcus, excuse me, or other officials simply can consult the definition would make it easier for them to do their job effectively. so rather than having congress wait, i would encourage you to proceed expeditiously with this process so that mr. marcus can be an effective advocate and public servant at the department of education. >> dr. trachtenberg, rabbi baker wrote in his written testimony that unlike anti-semitism, other forms of prejudice and group hatreds are easy to recognize. do you or any of the other panelists, for that matter, disagree with that? that is, can't and don't all forms of hatred change with the circumstances and the times? >> thank you for your question. i think we always have to pay attention to context when we're looking at any particular one incident, and we need to investigate it carefully. when we think about the state department definition, which seeks to codify what anti-semitism is, it's such a flawed definition that it can virtually encompass any particular act without real regard to context, although it pret

. unnecessarily. >> thank you. mr. walker can you explain how great modernization efforts in texas, advance meters and other aided in a rapid recovery there. >> yes, sir. thank you for the question. the advance meter system that we have, we have through most of the region. we're very heful. it notified the customer the utilities of when the customers were out. they knew where the customers were located. it also helped us as she said, in rerouting and knowing where they needed to send their crew. and being able to reroute electricity to serve people in a more timely fashion. so we found it was very helpful to have the advance meter system. and the new technology. >> thank you. doe energy review, heavily focussed on critical infrastructure interdepend si. i'm concerned about the puerto rico without access to the safe drinking water. water. hospital and public safety infrastructure are dependent on electricity. so is a more resilient grid system perhaps one that includes micro grids distributed generation and storage important for supporting rapid response and recovery at in regard to

to. mr. walker, i thank you for being here. onlyou are not the democrat here. we respect and support anwr in a responsible way. i voted against the budget because i thought it was a gimmick to get to a budget reconciliation. democrats cannot participate, have not participated in the resident process right now for overall tax reform, which the country needs. realize thered, i is going to be more fossil use in the world than ever before. only can do is find different technologies and abilities to use it until we find a technology or new industry that will provide a more cleaner energy. if it is going to be fusion or some other form in the near future. the right now, the world is using more coal, we are using more oil. i look at the dependence of you have.- the dependency we we are less dependent on foreign oil, the more strong we are as a nation. point thompson, the last three years, it has been exported in development. it has been done in a environmentally sound way, a balance between the environment and economy up there. it is in the same ecosystem as 1002. alexander, andr. everyone,

a few years back. one of the elders said to me, i was not governor, he said mr. walker, my goal as a grandfather is to see one of my grandchildren flush a toilet in their village. the infrastructure needs to be paid for out of the resources. that was the deal we made with congress when we became a state. we need the benefits of the bargain. we need it now. as i came into office, $1.6 billion deficit that grew to $3.7 billion deficit. i have had to do things i hope no future governor has to do. we made difficult decisions. i said no to help for funding. we closed facilities and laid off thousands of people. we have reduced our budget by $1.7 billion. it's tough to do. that hurts. public safety, alaskans don't feel safe right now. we are having a special session as we speak to bring that safety back. you know, i signed recently, a third of this week, a climate change administrative order. we have a climate change team. eaed with dress that in alaska. we looked at climate change. it's impacted alaska. we relocated 12 villages. i have been to smaller. but we cannot do it without the fina