roy moore, 46%. doug jones, 46%. doug jones has completely closed that gap. >> well, and it's, again, not just because of this. you also have someone, candidate in doug jones, former u.s. attorney, someone who went back in as a special prosecutor and handled that case from 1963 when those little girls were killed in that church and successfully prosecuted it. and then you just look at his record and what he stands for and the state of things in alabama where you got people without health care and you've got a situation where you like to make it easier for kids to go to college, there's a lot of god that you could do if you got someone in there like doug jones and that's why i think it's really important that as we look at the gross stories and the courage of these women to come forward and tell them that you also see the other flip side that there is another way and there is someone that will bring a positive agenda with this idea of bringing people together instead of dividing them. >> senator amy klobuchar, thank y

jones roy moore denies it. and by the way, he gives a total denial. 40 years is a long time, he's run eight races and this has never come up. so 40 years is a long time. the women are trump voters, most of them are trump voters. all you can do is you have to do what you can do. he totally denies it. >> he tried so far to get the immediate reaction to this. what if anything duds there mean for the office of presidency? we turn to david gurgan, former adviser to four presidents. david when a sitting president offers his support to a candidate who supports a 14-year-old girl does it have a lasting effect on his presidency? >> it has a lasting effect on his party not presidency. it's so clear to much of the country that the president's putting politics above principle. 14 republican senators as you've said, have come out the other way. i think he's put himself in a position where it's more important to get a republican candidate, whoever it is, than it is to seek justice and an ethical outcome. >> what do you make

moore, said roy moore should not serve in the u.s. senate. and barbara mc-quade, each of the cases that comstock cited are cases that have not been judd kated by courts. these are cases where if republicans chose to, they can say if true, you can use that same if true defense tonight about harvey weinstein if you wanted to. but i don't hear any of them doing it. >> no, i don't think so. and you know i know that their exists in the word i suppose people who fabricate allegations. but i think that one of the things we are seeing syllabus women feeling suddenly empowered to talk about their stories and realizing that people are starting to believe these stories. there are a lot of reasons people don't come forward with these stories immediately. they feel fear. they feel shame. they feel like they are going to be dragged through held if they talk about their experiences. but i think we are seeing a great moment in american history where women are feeling empowered and exposing wrongdoers and are being believed. >> thank you all for joini

moore -- saying roy moore denies it which is essentially saying he believes roy moore when he denies these allegations and also mentioning the fact that the allegations came out 40 years ago. which is often the reason women don't come out with sexual assault allegations because they do not feel they will be believed. if a lot of time has passed, people often raise the question of why now? leigh corfman, one of the accusers, was asked about that directly during an interview yesterday and she said she stayed silent for so long because she wanted to protect her children and that she was coming out now only because she had been approached by reporters. so those don't seem to go hand in hand. we are seeing the president come out and make these remarks about roy moore. you have to question where people inside the white house feel about the president's stance on that now, jim. >> you know, jim, that ad is -- it seems very simple. it's very important for three reasons. using jeff sessions' words to try to get the social conservatives, those who might still be on the fence thinking i want roy

and mitch mcconnell saying roy moore should step down. and a report of him pursuing teenage girls when in his 30s, his campaign calls it a witch-hunt. they are gathering evidence showing the accusers were paid to come forward and roy moore hinted of ongoing investigations to discredit his accusers over the weekend. listening in to the words of the new accuser. let's listen in now. >> -- and the back of the restaurant where there were no lights. the area was dark and it was deserted. i was alarmed and immediately asked him what he was doing. instead of answering my questions, mr. moore reached over and began groping me. putting his hands on my breas breasts-. i tried to open my car door to leave but he reached over and locked it so i could not get out. i tried fighting him off, while yelling at him to stop. but instead of stopping he began squeezing my neck, attempting to force my head on to his crotch. i continued to struggle. i was determined that i was not going to allow him to force me to have sex with him. i was terrified. he was also

five accusers of roy moore, a fifth accuser of roy moore emerged this afternoon. and this time, the woman appeared before cameras and told her own story in her own words about what she says roy moore did to her when she was 16 years old. three hours before the newest accuser told her story, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell decided he had already heard enough and read enough about the accusations against roy moore and roy moore's self contradictory defense offered on sean hannity's radio show on friday. >> do you believe these allegations to believe true? >> i believe the women, yes. >> do you believe roy moore, calling for him to step down from the senate race. >> i did. i think he should step aside. >> are you encouraging a write-in campaign? >> that's an option. we're looking at. whether or not there is someone who could mount a write-in campaign successfully. >> would it be senator strange, do you think? >> we'll see. >> mitch mcconnell was the leader of the senate republicans who today stepped out of the if true group into the roy moore must drop out now

he says it should happen for roy moore if roy moore wins in alabama next month. and that turns out not to be just an interesting history lesson, oh yeah, there's only been 15 of them in total and not since the civil war. it not only ends up being an interesting point for gardner to take, it also is practically important because it offers a few different potential off-ramps for the republican party if they want to get themselves out of this roy moore crisis that they are in. and of those off-ramps, the easiest one, the one that actually takes the least courage, is to do what senator cory gardner did today and just threaten that if roy moore is elected, he may face expulsion. you can just threaten that. that's a possibility, alabama, if you elect him, we may expel him. if you want to kick it up a notch and be slightly braver than that, they could turn that threat into a promise. republicans could organize the necessary votes in the united states senate to expel him. make a public show of force. don't just threaten, promise that if roy moore is elected he will be ex

roy moore's staying in this race. that's the first thing that you've got to take away from that, wolf, but they are clearly focused on this yearbook. let's talk about some things, though, that the lawyer brought up that don't make a lot of sense. he is asserting that gloria allred and her client were not telling the truth that there was no contact with roy moore after the incident she describes and they said, no, no, no, he was the divorce -- he was the judge assigned to her divorce case in 1999. well, roy moore said he doesn't even know that woman. that was his quote. i don't each know that woman when gloria allred came out with her client about that press conference the other day. apparently he did know -- so his own lawyer is rebutting roy moore's own point about his relationship, continued relationship with this woman. the other thing i want to point out is, there is no mention here about the most serious allegation against roy moore, which is the woman who claimed when she was 14 years old that she was molested b

roy moore is embarrassing donald trump, okay. and i've seen a lot of troop supporters out with defending moore and they've been blaming the victim and i've seen some people attacking miscorfman, the original accuser for having marriages and bankruptcy. if that is an argument you're making and you think you're helping the president, stop. you're being a complete idiot. >> he's not helping himself. >> she has as much right to tell her story as a businessman from new york has to be in the oval office. you are not helping the president. the loyal trump line tonight, get roy moore out of this race. he's embarrassing the white house. >> the president does not have much moral authority in this area -- >> i think it's ae legitimate question. how does he do that without saying women have accused you of the same thing. >> no one has ever accused him of pedophilia. >> sexual assault. sexual assault. >> they're not the same. >> sexual assault. and we didn't use the word pedophilia. 16-year-old is not pedophilia. >> i do agree that as the hea

and that he supports roy moore 100%. he kept saying that over and over again, although he didn't use those words. this is really a difficult time for women who are coming forward. and this is what they fear. they fear teams of lawyers. teams of investigators going through every piece of their history. their medical history. their dating history. where they worked. their job history. and especially attacks them in ways sometimes beyond repair. and it's that kind of vicious attack, that kind of aggressive attack that prevents women from coming forward. i think it's important to note, we're not in a court of law, none of the so-called witnesses that accuse roy moore are under oath. none of them have been cross examined by attorneys. there's no evidentiary hearing on any of this. this is not an issue for someone running for senate. the siissue for senator is character, integrity. the standard that we would apply in the courtroom beyond reasonable doubt, preponderance of evidence doesn't apply to someone erecting laws not jus

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roy moore. >> that's right. and when you look at that here charlie, reflect on what was said by elana and that issue of 51. >> yeah, the people who are saying that if roy moore gets elected, they should essentially swear him in and defrock him, that puts them in the same bind. if he wins the senate, they have to keep him there. and there are plenty of good reasons beyond this misconduct -- these misconduct allegations not to have roy moore not in the senate. he is a theocratic bag of walnuts and the most public null guyer we' e null guyer since george wallace. >> but when we look at locally what is happening, al.com basically saying that we reject roy moore and because that only leaves us one choice, we are going at the moment for doug jones. do you think that will have an impact on the outcome here, jamei jameill? >> it's hard to know, but it is an influential website. so it carries a lot of weight. look, it's clearly into the full throated endorsement of doug jones, but obviously the roy moore situation is ver

about roy moore. i want to help. can i get a yard sign. can i help you in any way. please, let me help and of course, being his coordinator i say okay. >> of course. of course. i have also read that democrats are seeing a boost for your opponent doug jones because of all these stories that are swirling. are you at all concerned about that? >> no. if you want to support doug jones and you're a democrat, please go ahead. i'm for civic duty and i'm for getting out and supporting the candidate that you think is best. i think roy moore is the best candidate for the race because he's a veteran who has served alabama with pride and distinction and so that's why i support him. if he wasn't, if i thought for a minute that any of those things were true, i couldn't possibly support him, but i do think he's a man of distinction and he's proven that to me over and over again and i've met several members of his family. i've met his wife and they've been stalwarts in alabama which has been for quite some time. >> mi

moore, the media raised this question. >> should roy moore resign, mr. president? do you believe his accusers? do you believe that roy moore, should he resign? >> why is he unwilling now, david, at this point to moore? >> i think there are a couple of factors going on there. one, this is not so clear-cut politically for donald trump. as you know, he was on the wrong side of that primary race with luther strange. he lost it. many of his core supporters are very supportive of roy moore and so he's not necessarily looking to cut against the grain to some of his own supporters. so politically it's not the easiest thing. as you know, steve bannon is supporting moore and donald trump and steve bannon are still very much in touch about making sure not to do anything to disintegrate his solid relationship with his base. then, of course, there's donald trump's personal history here that makes it complicated for him to weigh in. he's got a lot of women lined up with accusations against him. i think the last conversation he wants to be having is that whether or not

tell me why do you still support roy moore? >> because in all the time that i've known him, he's been a man of integrity and stands for what he believes, doesn't cave. i just -- i appreciate his courage. >> why does he have more credibility to you, carry more weight, than the nine different accusers who have told very similar stories about mr. moore's behavior towards them when they were quite young, many of whom teenage girls, one 14 years old? >> when i think of the fact that it's 40 years ago, and the fact that there are a lot of people if they can get some publicity or whatever, you know, it's kind of get on the bandwagon and as much as roy moore has been in the news and interrogated and interviewed, it seems to me that if their story was real, they would have come up a whole lot sooner than what they have now. >> with why do you think that they would have come up sooner? why do you think a girl who was 14 at the time, would have come out and made a statement like this against roy moore earlier? he's a powerful man in the s

talking about the roy moore camp -- roy moore as a candidate and the allegations. would be quite the juks positxtn if the president were to stand side by side with roy moore in alabama feature in that ad featuring his daughter. jim? >> ryan nobles, thanks very much. my panel here with me now. listen, i want to shake my head but these are the times we live in. this is the current political environment we live in. mary katherine, if i could start with you. your reaction to the president endorsing someone not accused by one woman, but by eight women, of making sexual advances to them while they were teenagers? >> it's remarkable and it's remarkable the knots people are tying themselves into going to bat for this person who has all of these accusations against him which have all of these marks of credibility. contemporaneous reports. some of the facts line up about where the restaurant was or the courthouse was or where he was at the time. it is remarkable to me people will go to these lengths. this wasn't even trumps guy, by the way. he could have one of his favorite

according to roy moore's logic expressed right there, roy moore forgot god. in 1979, roy moore was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney in alabama, a team of "the washington post" reporter that is went to alabama to report on the senate race there have come back with a story from 1979 that exploded in our politics today as if it happened today. three women did this extraordinary reporting for "the washington post." stephanie mccrumben, beth rhine hard and alice curtis and there is no better way to convey the essence of this extraordinary story that they have written than to read the words that they wrote in their reporting that they delivered today. lee corfman says she was 14 years old when an older man approached her outside a courtroom in alabama. she was sitting on a wooden bench with her mother they both recall, when the man said he was roy moore. it was early 1979 and moore now the republican nominee in alabama for u.s. senate seat was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney. he struck up a conversation corfman and her mother said and offered to

and he signed it roy moore d.a. >> jason, how is roy moore responding to these new allegations? >> reporter: well, roy more has been saying all along that all of these allegations are part of a witch-hunt. this is an attack on christianity and christian conservatives. his campaign released a statement regarding these freshest round of allegations, saying the following, judge moore is an innocent man and has never had any sexual misconduct with anyone. this is a wich hunt against a man who has had an imexpectable career for over 30 years and has always been known as a man of high character. jake? >> all right. jason carroll, thank you so much. my legal panel is with me to break this down. we're going to have a panel of alabama reporters to talk about with this. let me start with the legal panel. jeffrey toobin, from a legal perspective, does this change anything? >> well, there is no legal proceeding going on. this is an election. so it doesn't really change anything from a legal proceeding. there is no lawsuit. there is no criminal investigation. this is all about the voters. th

i'm not defending roy moore, i'm defending due process. i'd like to believe that if you were ever accused of something that you know that you did not do, thank you would -- the people that are accusing you, you would believe people are treating you the same way that you would want to be treated if you were in that case, which is give you the benefit of the doubt. look at the people who have surrounded you who also have proven history of doing good and doing well and for the good of the people. and so that's really all we have to go on. i really like to believe that this will be played out not in the public media but be voted by the people of alabama. >> i'm quite sure i'll never be accused of preying on teenage girls. have you ever known anybody who's bnz accused by nine different people of preying on teenage girls and been banned from a shopping mall because of a history of predatory behavior? do you know anyone ever accused of nine different people of preying on teenage girls sexually? >> let me just answer that if i can, briefly. first

but roy moore, you know, long before steve bannon came around, roy moore had a base in alabama. he's long had universal name recognition in alabama. so i think whatever happens with roy moore, steve bannon will continue to do his steve bannon thing. he'll find other candidates. he's continue to wage his insurgery i against mitch mcconnell and such. and so i don't know. it might be embarrassing, but i don't know if there will be a real lasting impact on bannon himself. >> thank you very much for joining us today. happy friday to you guys. and breaking news on special counsel robert mueller's investigation. a new nbc news reporting on michael flynn coming next. [ keyboard clacking ] [ click ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ clacking continues ] good questions lead to good answers. our advisors can help you find both. talk to one today and see why we're bullish on the future. yours. talk to one today and see why we're bullish on the future. ii need my blood osugar to stay iin control.. i need to cut my a1c. weekends are my time. i need an insulin that fits my schedule. ♪ tresiba® ready

president, do you believe roy moore? >> roy moore denies it. and by the way, he gives a total denial. i do have to say, 40 years is a long time. he's run eight races and this has never come up. 40 years is a long time. the women are trump voters. most of them are trump voters. all you can do is do what you have to do. he totally denies it. >> [question inaudible] >> i do. i really do. i think they should. thank you. have a good thanksgiving, everybody. >> shepard: well, man alive. that was a journalist dream come true in many ways. a lot of subjects touched on there. go back to roy moore. we'll start there and move to the other matters. i'm going to get to this in just a second. we got the read-out on vladimir putin's call. not a quick call. more than an hour it lasted according to the white house. back to roy moore. we don't need a liberal in there. he talked about the different positions of jones from his perspective. and on roy moore, he said he denies this. then he said he denies this totally. then he said this didn't happen. a little later

moore roy moore could lose . >> i agree. he really wants the seat. i understand the pragmatic progt you look to the president to put principle above politics not the other way around. >> thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. >>> coming up big little to climb, the daunting process to congress. >>> plus since tax payers are paying settlements on capitol hill shouldn't they know who is being accused. keeping them honest, next. cancer challenges us. to find smarter solutions. to offer more precise and less invasive treatment options than before. like advanced genomic testing and immunotherapy. see how we're fighting to outsmart cancer at cancercenter.com/outsmart big australia is back. our biggest sirloin. our biggest bloom. our biggest entrees ever. outback steakhouse. aussie rules. and now, get a free $10 bonus card with every $50 in gift cards. it's just my eczema again,t. but it's fine. yeah, it's fine. you ok? eczema. it's fine. hey! hi! aren't you hot? eczema again? it's fine. i saw something the other day. ecze

i still think roy moore could win. but pretty sure if he loses popular vote in alabama not be electoral college to save him. not get to 45 or 46 like the president but 50. >> moment that mitch mcconnell will have to look at all the guys. roy blount and everything, judges and everything. all say they have a position -- >> two things, one, good on judges, bad on molesting a 14-year-old is -- >> it's no the proven. >> not saying. they're looking at it, some of them, including republican senators saying they believe accusers. >> al franken admitted today he sexually assaulted a woman who was comatose. a woman says something and supposed to be -- i have no reason to doubt the accusers or roy moore. before you say he molested -- >> ivanka trump didn't go there. >> throw up on the screen all the senators. u.s. senators calling for moore to withdraw. many of these senators, including republican senators, republican male senators say they believe the accusers. i'm not saying they believe when accusers are saying, including this

how many people has roy moore come forward who worked at the mall who said, yeah, we knew roy moore and he was a gentleman. he wasn't produced one single credible witness on his behalf and he has a responsibility to people to do that and he has a responsibility as a republican to his party. he is not simply oi man on his own. he is representing a party. and most people who do that have some sense of loyalty to the party. >> we've got to leave it there. thank you. i want to look kroeser at the moral and ethical dimensions here. joining us now is russell moore. it's always good to have you on. so roy moore says this is a spiritual battle. is this a spiritual battle, in your opinion? >> well, yop generally like it when people use the language of spiritual warfare about their political ups and downs because i believe it's real. i actually believe there is such a thing as spiritual warfare. and so i think we need to use that language where it's appropriate. and where it's appropriate is in tell us of the gospel of jeetsz christ. and that's what concerns me here is people who are turning away

to roy moore's defense. he will say what he thinks and that's what he thinks, i'm fairly sure, since he has some significant similarities to roy moore in this particular area. >> how about, you, roland, roy moore, he's blaming it all calling the allegations attacks by the media, do you think voters in alabama will buy that? >> well here's the fundamental problem with voters of alabama especially conservative white evangelicals. these are faithless people. these are false prophets. these are people who serve not g-o-d but gop. polls show 63% say they're still going to support -- 63% of republicans, 58% of evangelicals what does that tell you? you have franklin graham tweets praying for roy moore and his family says nothing about the victims, go to ralph reed's twitter feed, mr. values voter summit, he has made no comment whatsoever. jerry falwell jr. whose father founded the moral majority has said nothing. this is the fundamental problem here. you have people in alabama who literally are saying they would ra

and if he then defends roy moore and roy moore goes down, he ends up looking like a loser which is the one thing donald trump fears the most, especially coming out of his failed endorsement of luther strange. >> perfect way to put it. he fears looking like a loser more than he fears not believing victims of sexual assault. jonathan swan, thanks for spending time with us. >>> when we come back, an update from the banana republic. how some longtime justice department officials are reacting to the prospect of being weaponized by the president to punish his former political opponent. (♪) (♪) it all starts with a wish. the lincoln wish list event is here. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down and a complementary first months payment. the market.redict but through good times and bad... ...at t. rowe price... ...we've helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. >>> here's the accusation. nine people involved in the deal made donations to the clinton foundation totalling more than $140 million. in excha

you think that roy moore wins? >> i think he has a good chance of winning, there is some belief, certainly the polls have closed, at least so far this hasn't been a knockout blow, roy moore still very much has a shot of winning, i think there's a school of thought that people don't want to admit to a pollster that they're going to vote for roy moore, therefore his numbers might bhe higher thn the polls reflect. he didn't campaign for roy moore. he just moved on to the next thing. you might even see him go down there and barn storm for this candidate. >> there were people who had already voted before these allegations came out. but i do think it is somewhat of a media by yias that there's be so many defenders of roy moore, versus your average voter in alabama who is horrified by pedophilia and i think it's a bias, and i guess i'm a little sensitive to it as a southerner. but just oh, those people in alabama, they'll be totally okay with it and i don't think that's true. >> i have spent some time in alabama and i hav

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that assumes roy moore gets elected. you sg through the process of trying to get him out to begin with. just a lot to consider here. in addition to getting another attorney general through, if the sessions options is ever exercised. so, wow, what's great is no one knows how this is going to end. >> kristen welker, before you go, i wanted to see if you could weigh in on the cross-pressures for the president himself. sessions is someone he didn't really feel he could move out of the cabinet. i understand he's been told by his chief of staff there's too much turnover. luther strange was his candidate. roy moore was on the other side of that primary. what are the personal dynamics? i'm sure steve bannon being on the side of roy moore and sean hannity, one of the president's favorite allies in the conservative media being one of roy moore's chief defenders the last time i checked. what are the political dynamics inside trumplandia? >> let's start with the last point you made which is the fact that roy moore is a bannon pick.

roy moore, u.s. senate candidate from alabama refused to answer that. >> vaughn hilliard, you're right. a simple question and he hasn't given a simple answer about it. thank you. >>> go to our panel. democratic pollster and msnbc news political analyst, also a national political reporter at politico and susan del percio is with us. susan, watching your face as vaughn was talking and you looked disgusted. >> well, of course. the whole story is disgusting, and it's interesting, vaughn mentioned that roy moore wanted to talk about policy. let's not forget that three, four weeks ago when he was in washington, d.c., he wouldn't take any questions then on his record, because it is so atrocious. so now that we have these allegations, it's not surprising he has nothing to say. but these women have gone through so much, and continue to go through so much. every time their names are read and i understand why, why von did vaughn did it, it is them having to go through not only their experience, but the current

roy moore, nine women have now come forward. many people say credibly reporting, you know, actions when to someone who is as young as 14, a molestation, sexual unforced -- rather forced sexual attention on a 16-year-old, congresswoman, do you find these women credible? >> yes, i do. last week i think i was the first woman in the house to come out and say he should step aside. i've been consistent in all these matters you've talked about. >> how do you view the fact the president refuses to even comment on it? >> i appreciate that the president was working with the white house and they have cut off funding to him. the national senatorial committee is not funding it. you've seen people across the board, ted cruz, mike lee withdraw their support and say he should step aside. i still hope he would do that and do the right thing. >> roy moore was tweeting -- >> for that matter al franken can hit the door with him. >> roy moore was tweeting al franken admits guilt after photographic evidence of his abuse surfaces. mitch, let's investi

roy moore fighting back. his lawyer trying to poke holes in one accusers story, even questioning his signature in her high school yearbook. plus, president trump's silence not weighing in on roy moore and thirsty trump. is the president taking a page from marco rubio's playbook? let's go "outfront." good evening. "outfront" tonight, the breaking news, roy moore fighting back. ignoring increasing pressure to get out of the race. moore's attorney in a bizarre press conference moments ago went after one of moore's

we believe roy moore is next. let's listen for this introduction and see if that's the case. >> we just want to say judge moore, thank you. thank you for your stand. thank you for being unwavering. thank you for being the man of character that we -- you're the candidate we dream of. every election, you know how it is. they tell you i believe like you and i stand for your principles. then they get elected and they forget why they're there. that is -- if there was ever a man that wouldn't do that, it's you. we just want to say thank you. we stand with you. if you'd like to say a few words, we'll be honored. [applause] >> thank you very much, janet. it's indeed an honor, when i look at this group of people behind me, i won't repeat their names, but i've known many of them through the years, some ten years ago, some 20, some 30. some 40. but some 40 are gone. many of them have lost their jobs, lost their positions, suffered imprisonment. jail time. they've been fined, suffered persecution. some are gone like mr. sifer

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burned once by roy moore. he came to alabama and campaigned for luther strange. we had reporters at the event, they asked the people at the event are you going to vote for luther strange? no. roy moore. why are you here? we want to see the president. we like him. but when it came to that decision, theymate made it on their own. roy moore is the embodiment. he is trumpism without trump. and it would be potential embarrassing again for trump if he comes out and again says perhaps luter strange or some other candidate should step in -- mind you they have to write in. there's no way to take roy moore's name off the ballot. if roy moore wins anyway, he looks more foolish. or worse if doug jones wins. >> it's never the wrong day to do the right thing. >> when has donald trump ever done the right thing? >> roy moore is still probably going to win the race. i think the poll is if fi. this is alabama this is an off-year election when you have republican voters more likely to come out. there's a democratic head win in v

we're talking about roy moore. those are children in some cases with a 14-year-old. >> underage. >> underage, right. teenagers is the trend for roy moore. in the case of al franken, this is a question of -- it's sexual assault if he was groping her and forceably kissing her and she didn't want that. and bill clinton, there's allegations of misconduct or, you know, an affair that shouldn't have happened that might have been consensual. but generally speaking, you're seeing each party go through a little bit of a self-examination. that in itself is not a bad thing. you can't change history but you have to discuss it in order to have a cogent and legitimate discussion. the current figures under the spotlight has to do with how they are dealing with the past. are they apologizing for it, that is wrong. it shouldn't stand today. it doesn't mean go back 20, 40 years, but you can judgment based on character and about exactly how much these politicians and their peers and parties are taking it seriously to see how they add

and you can tell from what roy moore is doing. ordinarily a republican under attack like this would say this is liberals, democrats. the democrats are going after me. moore is going directly at mcconnell. this is about mcconnell. get mcconnell out of there. >> who is way less popular in alabama than roy moore. >> that is also the brand of sean hannity. >> yes. >> it is not the democrats are secondary. >> let me bring in robert and nick. let me put this in a way it was described by someone. this is ivanka trump's final last and most important test not only as to whether or not she has any influence with her father but even whether they even talk. she says yesterday there's a special place in hell for people who prey on children. unless she doesn't believe the nine women, and she has said she sees no reason to doubt their accounts. how is it possible -- what is she doing there? if she can't walk into the oval office and say, hey, dad, trust me. you're on the wrong side of this? >> to build on a point john heilemann was making. the p

he believes the denial of roy moore. let me ask you just for context, do you believe the accusers in this situation, joel? >> well, i think trump was saying something different. the white house says the aers are credible and trump said at the same time he finds roy moor credible. the side is conclusive? we don't know. my impression is i believe he believes roy moore is telling the truth. i believe some of the allegations made about him are more credible than others. i think gloria allright did no favor citing that yearbook. voters are going to look at that and say we can't really decide what happened 40 years ago. we have to look at what they're saying now, how they're behaving now. and they're looking at roy moore, and coming out with teams of lawyers disputing this and that. and for his supporters that's going to be enough. for people not with roy moore in the beginning, that's not going to be enough. right now it is going to be about issues and doug jones and whether he's too liberal for alabama. >> this an issue too

then came the roy moore story. on thursday "the washington post" reported that the candidate arrested a 14-year-old girl and makes sexual advances on three other teenagers when he was in his 30s. staggered republicans were left wondering could the democrat win in alabama and threaten the republican majority in the senate? should they support a write-in candidate? can they force moore from the race? amid all that republican handwringing, moore has shown no sign he would be willing to get out. >> these attacks involve a minor and are completely false and untrue. >> reporter: republicans are scrambling to distance themselves from roy moore who denies meeting 14-year-old leigh corfman and says her allegations are completely false. >> we do not intend to let the democrats or the establishment republicans or anybody else behind this story stop this campaign. >> reporter: but in a radio interview with sean hannity, moore did not rule out the possibility that he dated other teens when he was in his 30s. >> i don't remember

if you could help us understand roy moore and your own view of roy moore here today, having listened to both sides. >> roy moore is very popular with a certain segment of republican voters. they've been with him for decades, through his rise to power, to the supreme court, to the senate race. they're very devoted, very loyal to him. it's like a religious leader type, is the way they look at him. they're solid behind him and they witnessed him in the public light for a long time and they feel strongly. on the other hand, he doesn't always have the, i guess -- people don't always view him as someone who has taken office seriously because he has been suspended from the supreme court of alabama twice. he's been elected and suspended. and some people view that as a waste of the office. and he says that he believes that religious things come first, like the ten commandments and some of the other views he's taken. and some people disagree with that. they say there is a separation of church and state, and they don't feel like -- they think he's above the law, is their description of him. you

roy moore's opponent. white house officials here repeat over and over again, look, he's never supported roy moore. he's never backed him. and so -- why would he be the right person to kind of reach out to roy moore saying, it's time to drop out of the race. the answer to that may be that the president is very popular in alabama. his approval ratings, 55% in the most recent poll taken. taken several months ago, but still it's an indication that it is a deep red state, ali, an there's a lot of support for the president there. of course, one of the possibilities, batted about, having the attorney general run as a write-in candidate. if roy moore doesn't drop out of the race, would that split the republican vote? would that only energize momentum for the democrat in the race, doug jones? all of the questions and hypotheticals white house officials here are weighing behind the scenes and at this point, again, it's not clear what the president's final decision is on this matter. >> kristen, thanks. standing by f

he's saying roy moore denies it. the implication is i donald trump denied everything i was accused of doing with more than a dozen women and you should therefore believe both of us. >> and, david jolly, we have breaking news at this hour about your former colleague representative joe barton who indira was talking about. "the washington post" moments ago has added to that story with the headline, congressman told woman he would report her to capital police if she exposed his secret sex life and that is a story about congressman joe barton telling this woman who had these photographs that he is now very embarrassed about that he would engage the capital police to stop her from spreading any information about him and, david, this seems like something that's going to be headed to the ethics committee and the house of representatives. >> lawrence, and you know this. there's so much more that is going to break from capitol hill and the coming weeks as a result of women rightfully coming forward. and i don't want to speak s

i think people who are most vocal about voting for roy moore will vote for roy moore. but most people, the ick factor will get to them and they won't show up to the polls. >> reporter: roy moore has an event planned tomorrow in ft. payne, alabama in the evening. we'll bring you coverage of that. >> we appreciate it in advance, thank you, catie beck. >>> james peterson, kirstin h hagland, tom nichols, thanks, guys, for sticking around. i want to get right to roy moore and read you part of a column by leonard pitts jr. "in fairness, yes, many republicans have repudiated roy moo moore. also in fairness, it took many of them several long days to do so. how much do we all now hate one another?" so, james, is leonard pitts overstating? does this all come down to hatred for the democrats? >> i don't think he's overstating. i think for a long time, over the last several decades, and this is not to lay this at the feet of the obama administration, but certainly over the course of the obama years, the political discourse has gotten much more toxic, it's intensified, it's become

, they were against roy moore. roy moore was incredibly controversial with a lot of d.c. republicans because he takes hard right traditional views on a lot of social issues. so, we already had built-in anti-caucus with republicans. mitch mcconnell and a lot of other people who are involved in senate republican politics spent a lot of money against him in that primary. the next point, very quickly. i understand ana's criticism of republicans. but, remember, in this whole age post harvey weinstein, this is not a republican problem. this is an american problem. there are many democrats as we all know who are facing these same charges and as an institution congress is going to have to figure out how they handle these against john conyers, al franken. i guarantee you there will be more. they'll have to figure out as an institution how they handle this. >> they are figuring it out. one way you enable that process is by respecting people when they come out with claims. and calling situations for what they are. and, ana, t