international underwater caves rescue and recovery organization mr sorenson thank you for taking the time to speak with us can you give us an idea of how these kids could have been trained to dive in just mere days . i mean. really. they're just getting the basics. and they're just getting you know i can speculate i'm here they're there but. they're going to get just the basics on how to keep the regulator out like kind of thing just enough so that these rescuers and escort them out of the gaze hopefully the rest of america although they've got this first wave out and. beating all odds so so for a good outcome for us you calling it a miracle really highlights the difficulties of these kids and the rescue divers are facing a lot of people think that swimming is a crucial skill to have for diving we know that some of the boys can't swim is swimming really that important for this process well in this particular instance they're not going to be doing a whole lot of slowing. thing that swimming does for people used to being submerged in the water when they needed yes it's a good skill to

sorenson regional coordinator of the international underwater cave rescue and recovery organization great to have you with us thank you and now some of the other stories making news around the world the natives of ethiopia and eritrea have agreed to end this decades of conflict and reopen diplomatic tight first meeting between leaders of the african neighbors in nearly twenty years a.p.a.p. and eritrea began a border war in one thousand nine hundred eighteen relations remain tense until now . turkey's government has fired more than eighteen thousand state employees over election links to terror groups those sacks include police offices military personnel and teachers it comes a day for president edouard will be sworn in for another term under the country's new executive presidency more than one hundred ten thousand public sector workers have been sacked since a failed coup in twenty sixty. we want to ask you was there says the ten people have been killed and dozens more injured off to a trade deal railed in the country's northwest heavy rain caused a landslide on to the tracks near to kie

decisions remember you always want to make decisions that are going to be safe not hurt all right ed sorenson regional coordinator of the international underwater cave rescue and recovery organization great to have you with us thank you. now let's take a look at some of the other stories making news around the walls the natives of ethiopia and eritrea have agreed to end decades of conflict and reopen diplomatic times it was the first meeting between leaders of the african neighbors in nearly twenty years here at the end eritrea began a border war and nine hundred ninety eight simulations remain to tents and till now . turkey's government has fired more than eighteen thousand state employees over alleged links to terror groups those sacked include police offices military personnel and teaches it comes a day before president added one will be sworn in for another term under the country's a new executive presidency or the one hundred ten thousand public sector workers have been sacked since a failed coup attempt in two thousand and twenty sixteen. meanwhile turkey says ten people have been kille

to give an idea of the arduous mission we're joined on the line by ed sorenson he's a veteran diver and a regional coordinator of the international underwater cave rescue and recovery organization mr sorrels and thank you for joining us can you explain just how dangerous and difficult a mission like this is for having yeah. it's incredible there are so many factors that are there are so many as are taking into consideration when wearing out want to be. free you might have one or two or three in. the area that they're raising they just die pretty much all so it's a miracle that. that john and reve crowned him in the first place and it's. credible that they're that they've actually got some of them out alive and now yourself have saved people's lives in cave rescue missions can you give us an idea of what happens once you emerge. yeah there's every body recovery every rescue mission i've been called to when i by the time i get out . it's usually a good deal of time is passed. there's always huge crowds around and they're always expecting the worst. in cave diving rescue attempts it's alwa

a short while ago i spoke to edd sorenson, an american it has become like here in the last half hour or so and we have seen police officers going in and vehicles coming out. it seems in the next two hours or so that the rescue operation that was paused at 9pm local last night will resume. it got off toa local last night will resume. it got off to a good start with four boys brought out to safety. a short while ago i spoke to edd sorenson, an american technical diver who has conducted a number of successful underwater cave rescues. he told me what he thought of the rescue attempt so far. it is just amazing that they got four of them out so far. we are hoping for a good outcome for the rest. it appears that the flow has subsided a lot and if that stays down will help them tremendously because that was what hampered divers originally, the high flow. so if that diminishes it will be a whole new ball game. we were surprised here, watching it closely, that it happened so quickly. initially we were told it would take at least 11 hours to bring each boy out and they came out far more quickly

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earlier we spoke to a cave diving expert ad sorenson he described the stressful conditions faced by the rescue divers you know everybody reacts differently to stressful situations and there are you know any of the freeway stress high school of. which they have dreamily high flow is unpredictable i think experienced cave divers in a high floor and. yet their stress level gets so high. heel and restrictions everybody restrictions differently and they've got damage. thankfully worst thing that we imagine. now to some of the other stories making news around the world turkey's government has fired more than eighteen thousand state employees over alleged links to terror groups those sacked include police officers military personnel and teachers it comes a day before president ever to juan will be sworn in for another term under the country's new executive presidency more than one hundred ten thousand public sector workers have been sacked since of failed coup attempt in two thousand and sixteen. the leaders of ethiopia and eritrea are holding historic peace talks in the eritrean capital asmar

or earlier we spoke of a cave diving expert ad sorenson he described the stressful conditions inside the cave especially the strong currents known as high flow. you know everybody reacts differently to stress and situations and. stress high. which they have extremely high. it's unpredictable and to experience a diversion high for in your overs ability. their stress will get so high. and restrictions everybody the restrictions their family and their diet. all they actually were things that we imagine. absent the other stories making news around the world turkey's government has fired more than eighteen thousand state employees over alleged links to terror groups those sacked include police officers military personnel and teachers it comes a day before president and a wand will be sworn in for another term under the country's new executive presidency more than one hundred ten thousand public sector workers have been fired since a failed coup attempt in two thousand and sixteen. the leaders of ethiopia and eritrea are holding historic peace talks in eritrea in capital and it's the first

ed sorenson had been on stand by in florida. >> it's incredibly exhausting. and they have are doing a super human job. >> reporter: divers will be fighting fatigue and trying to keep the final four boys and coach from panicking. >> it's important to keep them calm. otherwise, they can take the rescuer out with lking through mud you can't see and you have to be careful not to -- broken ankles, broken legs. >> reporter: the rescued boys are being kept in quarantine and two might have lung infections. the most serious is cave disease from bat droppings. >> it's a fun gal infection. it's a complicated disease that affects many parts of the body. in some cases, it's two to three weeks long. they could be out and not get sick for a few more days. >>> time is 4:05. judge brett kavanaugh, president trump's nominee for the u.s. supreme court will make the rounds, who will vote nomination. reaction is divided on party lines. the judge serves on the washington, d.c. circuit court of appeals. he had been considered a favorite for the nomination. judge cavanaugh graduated

in cave diving instructor at the international underwater cave rescue and recovery institution, ed sorenson. thank you for rejoining us. we spoke earlier about the pe l perils that these boys and those expert divers had to face. i have to say, being a scuba diver myself, in very limited circumstances, nothing like this in terms of cave diving, my eyes popped when i heard that these boys were brought underneath the divers. when you look at the kinds of equipment that these kids have to wear. they have regulators in their mouth to deliver the oxygen they need, they probably have oxygen tanks on them, i don't even know how to envision this. can you help describe in extreme circumstances like this, how someone would travel through a cave of this nature underneath a diver and do it successfully? >> it just shows those kids' resolve. how they stayed calm and collected through the ordeal in the darkness, with no food or water, for the first nine days was unbelievable. and then there's a lot of -- most people in the world couldn't do what these kids are being asked to do. so it's the worst of the w

we can go now to florida to talk to edd sorenson, one of the founding members of international underwater cave rescue and recovery. it is an amazing and wonderful that they survived and were found but getting them out will be tricky. they survived and were found but getting them out will be trickym really is. i am elated to hear that they found them all alive in good health so far, so it is going to be a difficult rescue from here on out. how difficult? well, i am working with limited knowledge from here so it depends on how far the completely flooded passage is. but in a situation like that it is usually zero visibility, you have got rocks and obstacles in the way. taking a dive into circumstances like that is extremely dangerous, someone who has had a near death experience is even more dangerous and someone who is not scuba certified is unbelievably dangerous. had you think it is likely to be done? this group, the kids and their teacher are clearly tough and have managed to survive this and have incentive, they want to get out. then again, without all the information and without seeing

let's speak now to edd sorenson, an experienced technical diver, who has conducted a number of successful underwater cave rescues. hejoins us now he joins us now from hejoins us now from plodder. thank you so much forjoining us. —— from florida. just gives your thoughts on the operation so far because they brought the boys out a lot more quickly than they thought they were going to, there is still a lot more that could grow wrong today. yeah, they are against terrible odds and a lot of dangerous restrictions, zero visibility, high flow, lot of dangerous restrictions, zero visibility, highflow, inexperienced and very young children. but there is no substitute for the local knowledge of the caves and we have been doing just fantastic. now, they will be hugely buoyed of course by the fact that they have now brought for boys out of the cave successfully. we hear so much about the water and the caves here. —— four. just how much could heavy rainfall coming now complicate the operation at this stage? well, if you look at the film clips from the earlier last week, when they were, rescue

edd sorenson is an experienced cave diver. he joins us now from florida in the us. we have heard from you over the past couple of days on bbc news. now that the rescue has been completed, what do you think was the key element in this operation going as smoothly as it did? i don't know if there is a key element except teamwork. i mean, they just key element except teamwork. i mean, theyjust did key element except teamwork. i mean, they just did everything key element except teamwork. i mean, theyjust did everything right. they had great volunteers, there was a lot of people thatjust really worked so hard getting tanks in their. they brought in top—notch divers. you know, every decision they have made seemed to work out. it is just nothing short of a miracle. and there must have been... i suppose there are particular challenges when you are trying to rescue people who are that inexperienced in such surroundings and such situations, compared to if, for example, they were trying to rescue experienced cavers or divers who had just got trapped. well, sure. there are so

edd sorenson, a cave diving expert based in florida with nearly 30 years' experience, explained how difficult the rescue will be. i'm working on what information i have, i'm not there, they have a great team on the ground there, rick and his team, fantastic prizes. i, you know, iapplaud and his team, fantastic prizes. i, you know, i applaud them for an amazing, you know, daring job that they did in finding the boys but there are just so many hazard there, s0 there are just so many hazard there, so far back, high flow, low visibility, it is probably some of the worst things and the fact that none of these boys are diving certified and cave diving is a com pletely certified and cave diving is a completely different animal from just open water diving. is that what it will take so long? some people we re it will take so long? some people were saying it could take up to four months. is that a fair estimate of time? well, there again, i am not there, we were standing by, rick got there, we were standing by, rick got there and did a fantasticjob. it just... it is hard to say without knowing how long

edd sorenson — a cave diving expert based in florida, with nearly 30 years experienmce — explained how difficult the rescue will be. i'm working on what information i have — i'm not there — they have a great team on the ground there, rick and his team, fantastic drivers. i, you know, iapplaud them for the amazing, you know, daring job that they did in finding the boys but there are just so many hazards there, it's so far back, high flow, low visibility — they're probably a couple of the worst things and the fact that none of these boys are diving—certified and cave diving is a completely different animal from just open water diving. is that why then, edd, it's going to take so long? i mean, there are some people saying it could take up to four months. do you think that's a fair estimate of time? well, there again, you know, i'm not there, we were standing by, rick got there and he did a fantasticjob. it just. .. it's hard to say without knowing how long the water—filled passages are, there's a lot of inherent dangers. i think the long—time stand was basically waiting out fo

a short while ago i spoke to edd sorenson, an american technical diver who has conducted a number of successful underwater cave rescues. he told me what he thought of the rescue attempt so far. it is just amazing that they got four of them out so far. we are hoping for a good outcome for the rest. it appears that the flow has subsided a lot and if that stays down will help them tremendously because that was what hampered divers originally, the high flow. so if that diminishes it will be a whole new ball game. we were surprised here, watching it closely, that it happened so quickly. initially we were told it would take at least 11 hours to bring each boy out and they came out far more quickly than that. did that surprise you? is that because of the water level? i cannot speculate on that but it appears the flow has diminished considerably so if they were having to do this in the first seven, eight, nine days when the flow was up that high, i am not sure that they would have had this outcome. it shows resilience of these young boys that they were able to do something that most people w

i'm joined now by edd sorenson, owner of cave adventurers in florida and a regional coordinator for the international underwater cave rescue and recovery organisation. ? he's conducted a number of successful underwater cave rescues himself. thank you forjoining us. percival, your reaction to this very positive first step in the rescue operation. thank you for having me. it is nothing short of miraculous. it was against all odds that they would bring them out successfully and they are fighting extreme conditions and so far it has been great. they have done a fantasticjob. so far it has been great. they have done a fantastic job. we have been talking about the complexity of the cave system and how difficult it would be for the children. but put this into perspective, is this something that would be really very ha rd something that would be really very hard even for the best cave divers in the world? it really is. there are always in the world? it really is. there a re always obstacles in the world? it really is. there are always obstacles in a dry cave and ina are always obstacles in a dr

. >>> ed sorenson is a potential diver to go to thailand if needed. he serves on the international underwater cave rescue & recovery coordinator. he joins us from florida's blue springs state park. ed, thanks for joining us. what are the risks and the dangers to the boys and the divers? >> well, there is just so many risks in a rescue operation such as this one. obviously the zero vis is one of the biggest. the extreme high flow. in this particular case, the flow seems to be dropping down li bit. should help t but the narrow restrictions are going to be one of the biggest ones. stress is one thing that they really need to keep in mind. these boys aren't used to being in the water. they don't even know how to swim. they haven't had scuba apparatus on, and then to have to get separated from the rescuer and then get stuck through a small hole, it's going to be stressful for them. >> what are you focusing on? as a layperson, we're just saying, please, hurry, get them out as quickly as they can. when you hear an operation is underway, what are you focusing

todd sorenson joins us next, finger two about a case in georgia with echoes of willie horton and is the air force cracking down on the bible? we will tell you the story. stick around. .. shannon: fox news alert, results from a big runoff election in georgia. republican voters choosing a nominee for governor and once again the president figuring heavily into the campaign. jonathan terry live in athens. >> brian kemp says donald trump's endorsement late on in this race the most significant factor leading to his victory in the gop runoff election and the victory was decisive, defeating casey cagle by 70% to 30%. home to unify his party as he goes to the general election campaign against democrat stacy abrams. >> you have to get over it quickly because we have a big fight ahead of us. a national race with stacy abrams. >> casey was the target of a secret recording. both candidates faced a barrage of negative ads but now that it is over, rallying support by the party's nominee. >> i committed to him my unguided support and see that he will be the next governor of the state of georgia and i w

with my thanks to you, edd sorenson, we have four boys out of that cave, at the chiang rai hospital. we presume they've been reunited with their families. i'm sure the mothers want to be there the moment they exit the cave. we're going to take a short break and let you know we're keeping a close eye on a news conference that's been pushed back to 10:00 a.m. eastern time, this is from thai government officials giving us official word and updates. we'll go back to janis mackey frayer and bill neely, our eyes and ears on the ground. we have natalie azars in studio. we'll the right back. i did mom. wanna try it? yes. it intensely moisturizes your hair and scalp and keeps you flake free. manolo? look at my soft hair. i should be in the shot now too. try head and shoulders two in one. >>> welcome back, everyone. approaching 45 past the hour and bringing you this update from right on the scene there. we're going to go to bill neely, who has an update on those four boys who have been extricated from that cave. bill neely, to you. >> this dramatic rescue is under way. and so far, it's going f

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at the very end of his life, he -- sorenson -- admitted that he had written it. he insisted that kennedy had gone over the entire book and made some corrections and changes. brian: of the seven radical republicans that voted to acquit, you say that is a myth that they were broken and destroyed? david: correct. ross went back to kansas and ended up as gubernatorial government of mexico for the democrats, which is probably where he belonged. a number of the other senators ended up resigning because they decided not to pursue their careers. they were not broken men in any way. this melodramatic story was just good theater, but not accurate. brian: andrew johnson the democratic party and these were republicans who voted to acquit him. he needed 19 votes. one of them, who voted to acquit was a man named thomas hendricks, who was cleveland's vice president. voted to acquit, he would be a democrat. but the other thing was henry wilson, who was grant's vice president, voted to convict. there is a lot of great names. justin moral was a man who voted to convict him. john s

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