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. but as an example, you know, i'm a surgeon. and, you know, there are a few bad apples in surgery. the vast majority of surgeons are wonderful. but what if we -- what if we always emphasized the horrible things that happened with those bad surgeons? everybody would be afraid to go to a surgeon. >> that's a really good analogy. most cops are great, and they put their lives on the line for us. and now we see, pastor, that, you know, in cities like baltimore where the cops in the freddie gray case, one after another are being found not guilty. we have the so-called ferguson effect. they don't want to do their job for fear the issue will be police sized and they'll be brought up on charges without any benefit of the doubt.
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