also, eugene robinson and frank bruney and krystal ball. susan, what more do we know about this apparent drunk driving incident by two secret service agents actually on the grounds of the white house? >> well, i think "the washington post" story did very good job of detailing what i think is unfortunate that it's not all that surprising. i did a story last year that chronicled the use of the disciplinary action that was taken that the secret service takes against its agents and i found that the fbi and even the tsa has a higher standard when it comes to alcohol related incidents. and they have an automatic 30-day suspension, whereas when i looked at the incidents of the secret service over the past five years, they have a very uneven record of punishing their agents and officers for alcohol related events. >> susan, do they have a written policy on it? >> they have what every agency in the federal government has, what is called the table of discipline, or table of punishment. but they would not provide me that table so i could do some compa