brunei, where the lgbt community has legitimate human rights concerns in brunei and malaysia and in vietnam, their record on labor is very suspect. and on anticorruption, they could pass laws, but they don't have the institutions, the independent prosecutors and courts that give us confidence that they would enforce those laws. my priority from the beginning, i think i've been very open about it is that our trading objectives be very strong on good governance because of the tpp negotiations. and that, yes we are concerned to make sure that we continue to have a level playing field on environment, on labor protections, but also on good governance, anticorruption, and as senator schumer said enforcement. because if it's not enforceable under the trade sanctions, it becomes very difficult to see whether we really elevated. and for those who are concerned as i know some of my colleagues are about mixing trade and human rights, let me remind you. it was the u.s. leadership that spoke to the soviet union and their human rights on immigration. i will be evaluating very carefully. not just what we

and when i does have tremendous violations. -- brunei does have tremendous violations. we pulled our event from the beverly hills hotel, which is owned by the sultan of brunei. we are trying to wake up people that these trade agreements sometimes i would countries that are just violating human rights. and we should have higher standards. as i say, trade cannot trump, you know, basic human rights and the rights of women. they will flog women in public, it is just an outrage. at a hope more people understand that, and that we can demand more from our trading partners. if they want to trade with united states, they have to have a better record on human rights. host: let's get one more call here from staten island, new york. catherine is on the independent line. caller: yes, good morning. miss meal, -- ms. smeal, i'm listening to you, and how more equal do you want to be? with whom? guest: you want to have boys and girls, men and women equal. there should be equal education opportunities. and health care. there should be areas of health care in which women are -- i will giv