china's rights. as i indicated in the answer that i gave to a previous questioner, we welcome china's rights. we just want to make sure that that rise is done -- that that rise occurs in a way that reinforces international norms and international rules and enhances security and peace as opposed to it being a source of conflict either in the region or around the world. >> and these security and economic dialogues that we've established are precisely designed to lessen suspicions, to enhance mutual understanding. the more we understand each other's challenges, the more we can take advantage of opportunities. [ speaking chinese ] [ speaking chinese ] [ speaking chinese ] [ speaking chinese ] >> translator: as the journalist who raised that question said, that in today's world mankind faces more and more global challenges, and i would like to stress here that no country can remain unscathed in face of so many global challenges, and no country can singlehandedly tackle global challenges. for example, in t

ok crazy to actually point i mean china china's economy like you know if i can interject here for a commuter jet here i mean in the west chinese criticized because it is not in line with the washington consensus if i can use that term here i mean china is a rising power the west is still it is middle steadily. lighning ok i mean so it really is the west has to adjust itself to a rising china and india with its own relative decline would you agree with that the same argument was made about the declining british empire at the beginning of the twentieth century and how the new way it was this. and the fascist states in europe. so countries that are willing to exploit their people to any level are always able to achieve quick turnarounds we saw that really we saw that in germany we saw that at the beginning of the soviet union it's not sustainable but that's how do i i mean i've seen the people standing behind the rear of an ox with a wooden plow while the party members in shanghai in the business people in shanghai in moscow party like there's no tomorrow i've seen little children who

to china. i would say that china will be preoccupied with enormous problems domestically, and preoccupied with its immediate environment. and i have, because of this, enormous difficulty imagining a world dominated by china. indeed, as i will conclude, i believe that the concept that any one country will dominate the world is, in itself, a misunderstanding of the world in which we now live. china has achieved great things economically, but it has to produce 24 million jobs every year; it has to absorb six million people moving into the cities every year; it has to deal with a floating population of 150 to 200 million. it has to accommodate a society in which the coastal regions are at the level of advanced countries while the interior regions are at the level of underdevelopment. and they have to accommodate all of this in a political system that must take care both of the economic change that is being produced and the political adaptation that inevitably has to result from the huge figures inv

it was not china. it was the japanese government which arrested in using domestic law against chinese sailors. about the dispute on the island. the chinese side was trying to make peace with the issue. take the issue of copenhagen negotiations. it was the choings side trying to make meaningful agreement with other cungs. on this issue of negotiations, the chinese side is extremely hammed because whatever the chinese government commits to today or at that time the government has to honor. we had a change of partly." . the partlyments nullified agreement. i'm sorry, i can be very open and abrupt. it would show for the new president obama trying to go everywhere, negotiate and expecting congress to kill the deal. not the china. ok, i would suggest you look at other evidence. during the financial crisis in the past almost three years, it was china trying to stabilize the global financial system. during the peak days to have financial crisis, their currency did not decrease against the u.s. dollar, unlike o

-china rerelations and what it meant to china? >> i think it was a very fruitful week, a very productive week. it goes a long way in promoting relations between china and the united states, particularly for the second decade of this century because the two sides agreed to develop a partnership based on mutual benefits and, also, a mutual respect. and i think this is very important for the world, for our two countries. >> rose: the chinese got what they hoped to gain from this-- from the meetings? >> i thinkoth sides are pleased with the results of the visit. because we are very sensitive to your concerns, and i think the u.s. has tried its best to be sensitive to our concerns. now i think the challenge is to implement what has been agreed upon. >> rose: would you agree with this statement that someone said it put a floor under the chinese-american relationship after a difficult year? >> actually, when the administration came into this office, we had a good transition, and the relations for most of the time since the administration

companies competing with china, competing in china, selling to china, we want to make sure that they have a level playing field. the that's important just for the basic fairness that the system requires. but we also want this transition china's undertaking to shift from a more export-driven gooet model to a more domestic command driven growth model to succeed. the reforms you referred to are things we think are important but more importantly the reforms of the chinese authorities have committed to. in this case what we're supporting is working with the grain of the dominant direction of reform in china. that's very important to recognize. we're not trying to push on to china things that they believe are fundamentally incompatible. >> have they implemented the thing that president hu jintao promised here in previous conversation? >> they are moving to put those in place and make sure the message goes out all across china to all levels of government in china. the commitment that the vice premier is central to implementing. to make sure as they promote development in china they're not d

>> that china matters. the relationship is important to what it can bring to this economy and in china and where china can help on issues like north korea and iran. how tense the relationship is. we see the press pool coming. it underscores the importance of currents in the economy and the chinese military rebuffing the united states. it is a delicate dance. it gets into your area of diplomacy and stage craft. this gives the chinese the platform, the importance, so a lot of the bids can be done. hillary clinton, the secretary of state speech at the state department last week, it was a tough speech about democracy and human rights, china not living up to its full potential. we are going to hear more of that delicately put in the course of his remarks today. that is on the table in this relationship in a robust way. that is how this president is drying to define that relationship to push on democracy and human rights to resolve defense and economic issues. >> the interesting balancing act is president bush ga

i don't think that china and china are for the china balance their intention of the chinese. and how to say subjectively and lol but. they are trying to. say to making it. balance the gradual according to it's a real how to free the real power the value yet. china the chinese economy has performed spectacularly even during the the recent economic crisis no truer is. on reentry it's kind of the chinese economy will be reoriented so what will be the new china's economy could grow it is if it's no longer the cheap cheap labor what else what was going to be the two underage. from your question i feel they are very from really going to chinese politics. ten years really restrict their religious reading yes it's a real they were written here you're supposed to be familiar that's where you know then you're very much. yeah you're you know i think it is the news that that. if they can show another five another five. five year plan requires twelve five year plan. i think that and the year plan and we asked we were studying from the former soviet union but we're continuing to keep it bu

i was in china in 2008. i talked to the mayor of a city, and he said they had about 5 million unemployed transients in that city. so, i asked him what he was going to do about that and he said, well, they all go home at chinese new year. and we will only let about a quarter of them come back. so they use the chinese family tradition of taking care of their people, of their family, as a social security network. but on a purely economic, it is a combination of market principles and central management. it's not the plant economy in a soviet sense of. >> host: there's a major point of contention between the united states and beijing over the chinese of its currency. how is this training our relationship and how should the administration be dealing with it? >> guest: the argument that is made, is that the chinese aren't manipulating their currency and at artificially low level which gives them an advantage in exports. and, therefore, improves the balance of payment that gives them greater economic and financial l

-china relations. our round table conversation on china is coming up right now. >> every community has a martin luther king boulevard. it is the cornerstone we all know. it is not just a street, a boulevard, but a place where wal-mart stands together with your community. >> nationwide insurance supports taviswith every questiy answer, nationwide insurance is proud to join tavis in working to improve financial literacy and remove obstacles to economic empowerment one conversation at a time. nationwide is on your side. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from the viewers like you. thank you. ♪ tavis: i am pleased to be joined by a terrific and distinguished panel. first up is john chan, former chair of the c-100. cindy fan is the dean of social sciences dominic king is the ceo of east west bank here in california. and the ambassador who serve as liaison to china for director steven spielberg. let me start with you. we were talking a moment ago about my own feelings -- i talked about this earlie

the amount of talent to lookout in china. every year, we graduate 6 million people. 1 million are in computer science and electrical engineering. things to do with information technology. it is different from the u.s. the best and brightest students work in engineering tavis: statistics like that -- like that make us uneasy. those footsteps are making for some restless nights in america. a country of 1.3 billion people, summing it up as a daunting task. we turned to a consulting group for dover new -- overview of what the chinese are thinking about. when victor yuan started the company, it was off-limits. that has changed. >> based upon what the chinese people are telling you, on a scale of 1 to 10, tending great, one being horrible, overall, how do the chinese people feel about the direction in your country is moving in? >> 7-8. the general direction is all right. the problem is about specific policies. that means people are complaining. it is such a big challenge. there are so many people. about the bigng government. tavis:

china relations. tell me what that blue print might be, ought to be. >> when i came to china on the first visit, when the communication was completed, jintao said to me this will shake the world. because we had been antagonists for 25 years. and it was the alliances for china which had been with the soviet union. now we have a different problem. the problem isn't to shake the world, the problem is to build the world in which in a paradoxical way both china and the united states face the same problem. from a different standpoint. americans think our values are relevant to the rest of the world. and there are many questions that we have a duty to spread our values throughout the rest of the world. the chinese don't spread spread their values. you can't be a chinese but they think they're universal and unique. so here are two of the most powerful countries in world in which there are a lot of problems that can be dealt with on a global basis. so we have to do it together in some fashion. which is not the

morgan's managing director in china. >> i think china will continue to grow around 7 to 9% per annum. of course there are lots of challenges ahead. given the economy set aside you can't continue to grow at 10% per annum. if you look at the fundamental drivers for china's gdp, i think we can hit that growth target. >> charlie: fromcting to china went we coinue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> charlie: john mac visms here an oscar nominated author for elect particular performances. he started with th theatre company before making his film debut in places in the heart mu his most well-knownovies include dangerous liaison, shadow of the vampe beg john malkovich here's a look at some of his work. >> if i had any place elseto go night i would gladly leave righnow. when i came here all i asked was to be leftlone. i'm not some kind of freak to be here on display to the amusement of those hooligans you call children. >> i'm doingeverything i can. i'm telling you i'm doing everything i can. >> i'm sure you are. >> at this m

>>> china blasts off. china is rocketing into the 21st century and not just the chinese program has ambitious goals. including building a manned space station and completing an unmanned lunar mission by the end of the decade. but is there an ulterior purpose? does china also have military aspirations in space? we'll ask this expert on chinese military and aero space affairs, dean cheng. captions produced by visual audio captioning www.visualaudiocaptioning.com >> dean cheng, welcome. >> thank you very much. >> how robust are chinese space capabilities? >> china has a space power in the sense that it has both a launcher capacity. it produces its own satellites and it has its own mission control facilities. that puts it into basically one of only three or four countries that can do that. >> would you say it's on a par today with russia? >> in some ways it may actually be ahead of russia. >> really? >> yes, it spends about three times as much in terms of sheer money than the russian space budget item. >> how

i was in china in 2008. i talked with the mayor of a city and he said they had 5 million unemployed trenches in that city. i asked him what he was going to do about that and he said they all go home on the chinese new year's and we will only let about a quarter of them come back so they use the chinese family tradition of taking care of their people come as their family has a social security network. but on the purely economic level, it is a combination of market principles and central management. it's not a planned economy in the soviet cents. >> host: there's a point of contention between the united states and beijing over the manipulation of its currency. how is this straining the relationship and how should the administration be dealing with it? >> guest: the argument that is made the chinese are manipulating their currencies at an artificially low level which gives them an advantage in exports and therefore improves the payment and gives them greater economic financial reach. my view is is it is caused

also, china in 1971 was very different from china now or china on my next trip, which was 25 years later. we were in china for eight very full days. the highlight of the trip was meeting the premier at the great hall of the people. we also went to the great wall, and they closed the wall just for us that date. other highlights for me were going to the summer palace, to a chinese opera, to a technical university, to an industrial exhibition, to m model commune near shanghai. we ate great chinese food and experienced the most wonderful hospitality. the chinese girls taught me two songs. "the east is red" and "sailing the seas depends on the helmsman." we learned about chinese communism and read mal's "little red book." and of course, we played friendship matches. we played in three cities -- and fortunately, very fortunately for me, the mantra over and over again was friendship first, competition second. i would like to brag here today that i won three matches out of four in china. and it was only do -- and i'm very well aware it was only due to the philosophy, "friendship first, competiti

and china in the future? >> i am hopeful vicos -- because the view i have developed is not peculiar to me. it is a view you must have to come through when you examine the situation. i know the leaders on both sides, and i have a chance to talk to them, and sometimes to mediate with them, and i believed that most of the time they realize this is necessary, but in the modern world, the urge sometimes replaces the important, but i thing if the leaders in -- i think if the leaders keep an eye on the important, they will overcome the stresses, and i would like to stress both sides have to do this. it is not enough for the united states to have these intentions. the chinese have to reciprocate. tavis: the new best-selling book from dr. henry kissinger is called "on china." i appreciate you sharing your insights. >> thank you for having me. >> we will see you tomorrow night. until then, thank you for watching, and as always, keep the faith. >> for more information on to a's show, visit -- on the show, visit pbs.org.

>> home is china. my full humanity and certainly, i think, the flower of what i hope and believe is any intellectual potential. the welcome that i've received here, what i have seen and learned about family and the ability to make the society flourish are things that i have learned in china and i think it is fair to say this feels like home to me. tavis: faith. china. china, faith. is that oxymoronic? are there people of faith? do people in china have a faith or is it just about hard work and family? >> that's a good question. faith every different sector, creed, they all exist here. i think that you would be surprised. you walk into a church in china, they are jam-packed and i worship, it shocked me. it is a beautiful thing to see. don't necessarily believe the hype here. i also think that in china, there is a more pragmatic faith. it is a more tangible faith that doesn't really fit nicely in the western paradigm but the faith is in family. and i know that -- i'm not trying to say in the west we don't

so we need china. china needs us. they need us to buy their goods so they don't want us to slip back into recession, but we are rivals and adversaries economically as well as partners. we are stuck in almost a scorpion relationship. >> and let's set the scene and take a step back with the advantage of history. some analysts will tell you this is the most important visit by a chinese leader to this country in decades. why? >> i think it is. i was there when the last state visit was held there on the lawn. you felt the important of it then, but we were not in this kind of global economic crisis. so there's always been a strategic reliance and requirement, but right now you could argue nothing is more important to the united states than the economy and to the world. and china is leading this global recovery. >> can we talk quickly about the politics of distrust here? not just here in the united states. we saw the demonization of china on the campaign trail both by democrats and republicans. it was almost bipartisan. but

china. i don't blame them nearly for all of that. but when a factory closes we know what it does to a community whether it's in harrisburg, whether it's in eerie cleveland, akron or canton -plt i'm encouraged by my colleagues on both sides of the aisle who support this bill and see how china's protectionist trade policies cost america jobs. we all know the problem. for years china subsidized exports by adopting artificial manipulated exchange rates not based on market forces. as a result, china's export to the united states remain cheap. our exports to china remain more expensive. in other words because they cheat on their currency, a product made in wuhan and sold in lima or dayton, ohio, will be cheaper because they have subsidized their production by weakening their currency. at the same time if a company in lima or dayton, ohio, tries to sell into china the cost of that item is 25% more because china has gamed the currency system. so by keeping the value of the r.m.b. or yuan, by keeping

you say these jobs we've lost to china are gone for good. if so, why is china so vital to the u.s. economy? >> first of all, a lot of these jobs, ali, have been going away from the united states for 40 years. before china was mexico, before mexico, japan and taiwan. while it's certainly true that the manufacturing base in the united states has changed dramatically since 1970, you can't really pin that on china as much as people do, in fact, pin that on china. the flip side, which we don't see as much but vital to the health of the american economy, china has become a major source of growth for u.s. companies of that's not just because they put factories in china that used to be in the united states, it's because they put factories in china to sell to chinese consumers, some of which need to be supported by workers in the united states. one of the best examples of that is a company like caterpillar seeing huge demand for earth moving or construction equipment in china and as a result keeps workers employed in illinois or factories in mississippi in order to supply parts to those ear

we believe china will do so because the alternative would be too costly both for china and for china's relations with the rest of the world. >> reporter: secretary of state clinton. >> we need to open up more opportunities for american manufactured goods, farm and ranch products and services, as well as allowing currency to appreciate more rapidly. these reforms we believe would not only benefit both our countries but contribute to global economic balance, predictability and broader prosperity. >> you have seen a small move lower in the dollar but not pressureably so. >> reporter: back in november, david stek, who runs the foreign exchange desk of a securities company in new york, showed us how the dollar had been faring against the chinese currency. >> here you're looking at a long term chart. >> reporter: for many years china glued its currency to the u.s. dollar, but starting in 2005, china loosened its grip. letting the value of the dollar fall against the chinese currency, some 20% over three years. but in 2008 the world financial crisis hit. and china reglued the currency to the

to deal with china? what are china's intentions when it comes to north korea? >> i think the chinese government wants to show the international community that it is trying its best with north korea to give up its nuclear development. china is also trying to -- open up its economy and begin reform before kim jong-il loses power. >> nhk world with us tonight. thanks. appreciate it. >>> japan's leading opposition parties are trying to bring down prime minister naoto kan's government. members of liberal democratic parties are planning to submit a no confidence motion by the end of the week. kan has been facing strong criticism over his response to the ongoing crisis at the fukushima daiichi nuclear plant. the parties confirmed their decision on monday during talks between their secretaries general and diet affairs chief. the ldp leader will decide the timing of the motion. but he says tanigaki wants to coordinate with the new cometo party. the new cometo secretary general agreed to consult with party members

products to china as kind of a you know a sweetener to kind of nudge the chinese along to appreciate their currency a little bit faster do you think this is the chinese will bite i mean is this just a snow job because the u.s. doesn't have a lot of leverage here. first of all clearly more and more the chinese are in the driver's seat so there can be no doubt about that actually even independent research association based in the us in new york maybe mike it and also tell us something about it if you know them that's the conference board they recently came out is a projection of saying that china at the size of the chinese economy in real terms of physical production terms when you adjust the currency for the undervaluation of on the purchasing power basis then china may overtake the united states next year to become the number one economy and also projecting if the growth rates that we're seeing are continuing for the next nine ten years we might see china making up twenty four percent of the world economic output by two thousand and twenty and the u.s. about fifteen percent of china

they are in this whole china -- modernizing china. it is different from how china was from before, even though this is a one-party system, but there's incredible space of freedom still there. >> rose: you're looking at a ne. >> right. >> rose: to hu jintao andothers. do they represent something different, or is it the generation after this generation that you'll see a different kind leadership, more open, more bolder, more aware of china's role on the global stage? >> i frankly don't think there's that much difference, and nor does it matter. ros from one generation ofpolie next. >> first of all, they all come from relatively similar background. none of them have fought the war for the revolution. so -- >> rose: none of them?none of t. and yet they have all tasted the fruit of open door and the reforms, economic reforms. but, you know, deep down, they're still very much into the legacy of communist party. so i think, you know, whether it's this generation or next generaon, i personally don't see much of a fundamental change, but i do

at the same time, as ruler of china, he had to ma never china -- maneuver china among a whole host of countries, and the china that was poor, underdeveloped, not very strong militarily and had just emerged from a century and a half of colonial dead dead agree gages so on that level, he was a great level, e enormous skill in strategic only sis, and he maneuvered china, the only major country that survived the collapse of k., and he csh communism, and he managed to switch to the winning side in the cold war without missing a beat. they unified a huge society and fought a decade-long civil war, but one could not forget the suffering he caused. >> host: you mentioned that you met with him a total of five times, three times alone, one-on-one. what were your impressions of him as a man? >> guest: it was never totally one, but i was principal, but in those contacts, and i didn't have to deal with him on that level. i think it's best how these meetings came about. as i said, he was summoned so you're chinese escorts would take off always in chinese cars to where he lived. he undoubtedly had m

economy and budget china does not have to be there and certainly china also recognizes that the u.s. provides stability on the other hand the chinese seek to deny military force projection capabilities to us and they will forces in the western pacific by the deployment of the new chinese anti carrier ballistic missile system and other new technologies recently unveiled by the chinese military that is of great concern and turn to the u.s. leadership but how so roger break that down for me this is what i don't get the united states state spends six times what china does on its military more than the rest of the world combined i don't understand how these chinese a development are such threats to the united states military that is so financed so well financed by china not to mention. financing does not equate to force projection and strategic concerns when you have a new chinese ballistic missile system that can take out any u.s. carrier within sixteen hundred miles of the chinese coast that essentially denies force projection capability to the us navy both at sea and in terms of air po

the rise of china is not against the prevailing edgemont in the world america but the rise of china is we in the hedge money system itself what i mean by that is that globalization which is a western driven reach driven project. has facilitated the rise of china so china rises so much as the west allows it to rise and now the chinese stronger and feels more secure they're starting to weaken issued it's on their own they're starting to try to create a consumption class within china itself to become more self-sustaining so americans are now have a very codependent relationship in which china finances america's debt allowing america militaristic around the world controlling resources american consumes chinese products which are developed cheaply benefiting both china and america so they're incredibly that and in terms of finance and banking they're heavily heavily integrated but there's also it's gets a frantic relationship in a sense because there are also each other's greatest competitors and this is mostly seen in the competition for global resources and this has been outlined in strat

cars in china. they're not going to let general motors take their cars from this country and sell them in china. they want general motors to give up all its intellectual rights and at the same time have chinese workers build the cars, something which we are not doing to that extent. if you look at what's happening with china and what they're selling to, or take south korea with the television sets and everything else, they're making it over there. china wants general motors to build the cars in china. >> you know that a lot of the economists, the free trade experts say if there were a trade war between the united states and china, it could cause not only a worldwide recession, but a worldwide depression if these two giant -- the number 1 and number 2 economic powers in the world we aren't to war against each other. >> no, it will cause a depression in china not here. china is making the money, we're not. look at the numbers. look at the difference to what we import compared to what they're importing

before i went to china for the first time i had a certain picture of china which was not really matching reality but then it depends on i willing to change the picture or do you stick with what you think how is it changed ten years on for you well. i was thinking. the chinese are missed mysterious people you know you can't really trust them and you never know what they think i felt that the country was much more backwards than it turned out to be. the fact is that the chinese have helped still have and still today have kind of an innocence and unless once they trust you they embrace you and they really become friends with you and you can criticize a lot you know you can also with chinese politicians we talk a lot of things in china that are not as they should be. you can be very open but it has to come out of a positive spirit. and not of just looking for the negative spots but you talk about innocence where does that come from your theory and is it have anything to do with the fact that china has been communist for so long. no no i think it has to do with the structure of having the com

who against china china i would assume since they're closest to protect them from attack from china probably against communist china if i'm not mistaken i i was in the impression that taiwan was. occupied by the british invasion ship or taiwan is probably important just as important as our relationship isn't china but you have it it seems americans kind of know where it is but not why it's such a big issue reporting from washington and i don't know said oh artie. i think when i want to get your thoughts on this i mean to what extent do you think that the american public is aware at all of all these different kind of divisions and complicated relationships between countries well or not very aware of them at all because if you watch the cable news networks you would know that taiwan certainly existed you know that the part of white house party crashers just said you know broke up but that seems to be where the focus is with the media the mainstream media but taiwan is a very critical part of our policy towards asia but again it's not it's not the nineteenth it's the one nine hundred sixty s. a

for china, if you put yourselves into china's shoes, what's the interest of china? all we need is peace abroad and the stability at home. we modernize our defense because the world is not safe. we had to prepare. that means that we are going to challenge the u.s. no, we will not do that. i don't know whether the people... whether people still remember what he say in 1974 before the u.n. assembly. you know, i was there. i was at the chinese mission to the united nations. i say china will never speak hegemony. should one day the chinese do that, i urge people around the world, i appeal to people around the world to unite and to defeat the chinese hegemony. i was in the united nations for many years. i heard many statesmen. none made such a statement. china is very serious. we'll not seek hegemony. we'll not challenge u.s. hegemony. what we want is to develop cooperation with the u.s. on the basics of equality and mutual benefits. and we did that in the past 30 years. on the chinese side, we'll keep doing that in the coming age. that was in china's best interest. >> ch

america become china. but instead each culture has to represent, has to respect each other's cultures, each others' beliefs, each other's traditions. and work together to make sure that their story indeed has a happy ending. and in this i hope truly happy note i would love to turn this into a conversation. [applause] thank you very much. [applause] please. yes, maam. >> do you speak chinese and read chinese? where the journals in english or chinese? >> well, you know that they tell you a funny little story. when we started working on this book, we learned that there were journals and here we are, sitting in a coffee shop in new york city and i say to matt, you know just our luck here we are stumbling on this great story and these kids left behind all of these journals and all these journals are probably buried in some basement in shanghai and they are probably all in chinese and we will never be able to figure them out or find them. we start doing what people do nowadays which is of course googling for thi

and i would argue it's been good for china because it's told china don't rely -- >> charlie: on foreign markets. you better develop your internal consumption and you better move from a saving to a -- >> exactly. so china is on a different path. if not for the crises, it would not be for that. probably the u.s. is on a different path as well. >> charlie: a path of saving rather than consumption. >> yes. the month before the crises the u.s. personal crises was 8%. today it's close to 6. >> charlie: the n11 who are they. >> i'm slightly embarrassed by it. early on, brazil, russia india china, why not korea, why not mexico, why not indonesia. after a couple years or so, okay, why don't we have a lot and all these other countries that perhaps should have been a brick and see what it looks like. so we decided to look at the next 11 largest population countries in the emerging world and we called it the n11. all it is, is a group of 11 countries with lots of people. very diverse. very different than the brick thing but diverse bunch. but it's become quite a big thing. >> charlie: is there any

you have to consider we have china came from where it started and if you look around china we're not only in sickness like beijing or shanghai we are on the countryside and if you see the children of parents who can not to eat having the ability. that often to visit the school to afghanistan to learning so that they're all to look for life has increased and improved dramatically you know you cannot always see look at china and say ok you cannot always throw the government clearly you cannot all of us for the problem but life is not the only content in overthrowing governments life is that you can fulfill your dreams that you can create a child that you can well create a family all of this is very much in the needs of the chinese people and they have more and more of it. yeah ok i get there but i don't want to hear the story that china has communist government has raised two hundred million people out of poverty they didn't raise anybody out of poverty hard working intelligent chinese people raise their selves out of poverty where the boot lifted just a little bit and cheering for the

and china and how that would... china would be hurt more than the u.s. i don't think that's the case, either. because you can't simply look at it as a simple two-sided equation. these economies are intertwined as they are with the rest of asia. and if you start slapping large tariffs on chinese influence, it will reverberate around the global in ways that you can't possibly imagine. >> liu: and yet we find ourselves, though, in this situation where we have a jobless rate near 9% here in the u.s. and that has americans riled up. they want to kw why the jobs moving overseas. so is there something that the white house and the president could have done to avoid a situation like this where we are at a critical point wherehe house may pass a bill like this, neurosglel >> well, you point out correctly. the unemployment rate is 9% encouraged partially employed workers, 16.5%. including people in jail 20%. among young and minorities closer to 30%. a very little faction of this problem has to do with china and the exchange rate. have to do with the policies that h

and china enjoys strong economic relations. the two countries have trade relations with billions of heroes, and the chinese government wants them to see it extend beyond the export of goods. they want to see do element in the high-tech sector. of one such successful chinese company is a solar cell manufacturer that has seen its profits sky-high debt -- sort sky high since it began 11 years ago. they credit discipline at the core of their success. >> this may look like training for police or military special unit. it is not exactly that, but something similar. under the watchful eye of the training leader, these young men are preparing for their mission. making their company the number one in the world. >> we train our employees like they are an army, and in an army come all the soldiers have to be united. that is the only way to win wars. >> so far, the company's campaign has been successful. it is one of the world's largest manufacturers of solar cells. 93% are exported to the u.s., correa, france, and germany. its products co

our counsel general in china, the head of the table tennis association in china. thank you very much for being here. the wonderful guest from our bay area sports organizing committee and the united states table tennis association. thank you for being here as well. 40 years ago, i was studying really hard in college. i was actually studying about china and wondering where my parents came from and what they were doing in those years and what caused them to come to america and give birth to six kids and start us on our journeys in our own education. now, 40 years later, i find myself year as the leftist mayor of any great city in the whole united states, being the mayor of san francisco, and to be part of this really wonderful historic connection between our country and the people's republic of china and to be, of course, celebrating with our citizens here to be the first asian american mayor in the city. this all comes together the same year. we were talking about is so many times the past few weeks as we were getting excited about this visit, to really have the ath