this dnc chair is quite something. you should know, she has apologized for those amazing statements. what are your thoughts? >> i think she apologized for words she use but said it not detract from the point she was trying to make. my thoughts are that, they are trying to do what sort of worked in 2012. they were able to hammer todd aiken with this and problem is scott walker is not a nail. lou: a good way to put it. the man greets a lot of hammers. he has been hammered in every quarter by democratic party, labor unions. angela, what do you think? >> when you don't have policy to stand on, lou, you create a message, but the war on women won't work now. it will backfire on her, have you domestic violent victims that have come out against what she said, that is why she apologizeed. if no one came out they would have used that because it worked in 2012 but not now. lou: a lot of attempts and fits and starts that democrats seem to engage in. whether it is playing race card or it is the wor war on women, l this nonsense. it

they're all talking about her clothes, she wanted the dnc to pay for ) that the we were not supposed to talk about women that way. the we were supposed to respect women. >> i respect many women in public life. she challenges that. >> why? >> she is a disaster. she is not ready for primetime, breakfast tv, to a mtv. she was picked because she has contacts with donors, from florida, which is a key state and, frankly, what is hurtful to her is this is her own party leaking about her basically saying you are going to be the scapegoat. she is being set up. >> interesting. harry reid chimed in. that is not a ringing endorsement saying that dnc is not up with the president that being said, there are apparently some blast things of hillary clinton and the secret e-mails. how do you feel about as we head toward the election about hillary clinton? she has not made a formal announcement. some say that see is just -- a presences to saturated at this point and there is nothing left to pull out of the back. >> well, the thing about her is she has the clinton machine behind her. on the other hand s

what was it the dnc chair woman talking about scott walker. she had to apologize for saying he had given the back of his hand for women. the rhetoric is inflammatory and the republicans don't have a response. >> they don't. and they back down every time that the democrats get up in their face. but on things like job security, national security, open borders is something that undermines both of those things. that's something that really matters to women, job security and national security. open borders now, just today here we are on the national civil rights day and what does the american government decide to do? sign a deal with mexico saying that we're going to protect mexican workers, legal and illegal. wait a minute, what are american workers? this is what's really on the minds and hearts of american women right now. >> dr. gina louden, great to have you with us. >> a pleasure. >> congratulations on the book. we recommend it highly, "what women really want." you'll be shocked. on sale online at book stores everywhere. >>> david tweeted me i