instance, you were talking about eisenhower. eisenhower and when he was welcoming kennedy who had run totally against his administration, eisenhower had the sensitivity to know that this 43-year-old new president that didn't look like presidents of the past and you have this picture eisenhower said come and sit with me behind the desk so when the photographers come into the oval office they'll see you and me behind the desk and essentially begin to get used to you as president. but usually what happens in recent times is if you have a situation like this, i would bet you that barack obama -- i think this was said by the white house people -- made an effort to show donald trump in the nicest possible way here are the incentives that you've got not to dismantle things that i've done like health care and some of the foreign policy things. and carter tried that, for instance, with ronald reagan after he was defeated in 1980. didn't work. reagan sort of went in in a steely way and said i'll politely listen but i'm not going to take notes on this and i don't want to feel as if i've been tak

inevitable, but that assistance has gone back since truman hands it off to eisenhower, because he came into office with no preparation and says i will do everything i can to make sure that what happened to me does not happen to you. >> and that's what i wanted to get into with you. everybody thinks, again, this is the first time something like this has happened in such a dramatic way. no. your book details it in great detail. truman, trying to help ike, despite the fact they had really hard feeling for each other. ike was almost contemptuous of truman. truman felt like like stabbed him in the back. truman tried to help him out. and then ike hands it off to jfk, and he's contemptuous of this kid who he thinks is not serious enough for the job he just held. >> the same animosity was between johnson and nixon. johnson had nixon in twice during the transition. the cabinets have dinner, there staffs have dinner. it's in that meeting between johnson and nixon right before the inauguration in 1969 that johnson says to nixon, you know, you ought to have the taping system ripped out. it's the w

of money. i hope there are a lot of people -- dwight eisenhower said he never wanted somebody in his administration that could afford to be there. he didn't want somebody that was getting a raise going there. >> you want somebody making a sacrifice and doing it for the right reasons. there will be the question of whether or not jared kushner can legally do it. the law put in after bobby kennedy. >> there are ways. >> that you can't have a member of your own family in an agency over which you preside even unpaid. is there a way for him to be a volunteer? there may find some way around it but there could be a legal fight over whether kutcher is there. >> what would the relationship be like with bannon and kutcher? equal influence? >> i think at the end of the day -- again, it's so hard to measure this out because donald trump is not ronald reagan. i mean, so who has the most influence? donald has the most influence. it's just -- but, would bannon and jared be basically on an equal plane with reince? you look at what ronald reagan had. >> right. i think you used a key word a minute

are the type who can get this done. eisenhower, it was the highways. >> james stewart, thank you for being on. i hope you have good travels ahead. >>> up next, donald trump does what might have been unthinkable during the campaign. he settles in the trump university case. we go inside the pivot from bezman to president. keep it right here on "morning joe." whether it's bringing cutting-edge wifi to 35,000 fans... or keeping a hotel's guests connected. businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink. the markets change... at t. rowe price... our disciplined approach remains. global markets may be uncertain... but you can feel confident in our investment experience around the world. call us or your advisor... t. rowe price. invest with confidence. >>> as president-elect trump moves forward with his transition, he's also moving past allegations of fraud against him and trump university. new york's attorney general eric schneiderman announced the $25 million deal on friday, calling it a major victory for more than 6,000 students of trump university. the settlem

. >> eisenhower tried to give the white house to nixon in '60, didn't work. clinton tried to do the same thing with al gore in 2000, didn't work either. so in a way, you know, that sort of thing reminded people of what they had seen. >> before reagan passed it off to bush for a term do you know off the top of your head when a party had -- >> other than fdr, martin van buren in 1836. >> that's what willie and i were just saying. martin van buren. new york guy. >> it's our story and we're stick to go it. >> you know what, history may have been, but i've got to tell you, what donald trump has done is nothing short of remarkable. >> both bodies are now broken and they're going to have to -- the democratic and the republican establishment lost last night. >> yes, they did. >> now the people with their real ear to the ground are going to have to come forward and rebuild both parties. >>> mike murphy, reverend al sharpton, thank you all. still ahead. republican rand paul kept his seat in the senate last night after failing to knock off donald trump in the presidential primary. the newly re-elec