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. ♪ we are farmers ♪ bum, ba-da-bum, bum, bum, bum ♪ >>> judd gregg is the man who turned down a job as obama's secretary of commerce. he said thanks but no thanks to president of the united states is clearly not a man to speak his mind. and he joins us now. let me ask you about your reaction first to what's happening in libya? >> the people of libya deserve a free government and hopefully that he can proceed on to an orderly path of democracy. it's just a positive thing to have occur for the world. >> obviously there are several schools of thought here about a post-gadhafi libya. one is that these kinds of dictators keep a lid on what's trouble in their countries as well as causing it, of course, and there is a danger without them controlling the worst elements of society in this country, things could suddenly explode. are you concerned about that? >> i think we have to be in any arab country. obviously the most cohesive groups are the most radical groups. you have to be concerned that they take control, and that they establish instead of a dictatorship, some sort of theocracy like