>> the last time that i saw him was actually at the inauguration of president jacob zuma. it was a passing on of the torch first to m becky, then to jacob zuma, but he was still the moral force that will held that country together and he still is and will continue to be. >> and we are almost out of time. i've got to throw this into you. you knew the mandela days. there's been a lot of disappointment in thao mbeki and jacob zuma on management levels and personality wise. do you think nelson mandela would have been happy with the country he's left behind now? >> no, he would never be happy until the hungry are fed and the naked clothed and the sick are healed. but they start the out with a nation where 85% of the people were discriminated against. they're probably now down to 70% of the people hole still in poverty. but we have in this nation probably 30% of the people are still in poverty. so we've got a long way to go. >> ambassador young, thank you so much for your time. >> fascinating >> other world leaders have been inspired by mandela's ability to fib his enemies. a ma

i'm trying to make it out. >> it was jacob zuma. >> we both thought it at the same time. it's just the been confirmed to us by producers, that is the current president of south africa, jacob zuma in that shot. it is important to point out to our viewers from around the world, you can hear the singing there and see the dancing. it may seem a lig jarring, but south africans sing, they sing whenner that happy, when they're sad. they sang a great amount for nelson mandela in prison and they are singing many of the same songs. >> listen to what they are doing now. [ music playing ] i guess one thing, too, south africans have had 26 weeks upset by the news mandela has finally passed away. as they are saying, 26 long weeks he has been gravely ill. he spent that time in hospital, three months in hospital. then they finally moved him to his home. he was under medical care. in many ways, he was on life support machines at some stage, he was taking a lot of drugs. he was on a dialysis machine. the news has been constantly in the headlines in south africa. so they had 26 weeks really

age of 95, just a few hours ago, the official announcement was made in south africa by the president, jacob zuma. a very, very sad day. people are celebrating, though, the life and times. these are coming in from johannesburg, outside the home of nelson mandela. it's approaching 2:00 a.m. in south africa, but the people are out on the streets. i suspect they will be throughout these next ten days of official mourning in south africa. we're watching what's going on, and writtening us on the phone right now is basimo gabriel, who spent years in robben island in the prison with nelson mandela. mr. swatwali, thank you for joining us. give us some thoughts, what it was like during the apartheid regime. tell us what it was like, eye specially on robben island in prison. >> well, let me first say that our people in south africa and the world have lost . >>> that's what we learned from nelson mandela. during the dark days with him on robben island. today he is seen as an icon of the world, whose teachings, as well as principles need to be embraced by all. he was embraced even by his own jailers, be

we heard the announcement from jacob zuma, the president of south africa. we want to welcome our viewers who may just be tuning in here in the united states and around the world. we'll have special breaking news coverage of the death of nelson mandela here in "the situation room." we're watching what's going on, christiane and robyn kurnow is in johannesburg watching what's going on as well. we will only now begin, christiane, to get reaction. i'm sure that leaders around the world will want to speak out and pay their special respects to this world leader, from the president of the united states, the leaders in europe, africa, all over the world. it's only just beginning now. >> reporter: that's right. indeed, president zuma paid tribute to how much nelson mandela had been embraced by the world, that he was also the global representation of this relentless and unyielding struggle for freedom and justice, and he never gave up. i remember, you know, watching him being released from prison from very far away, from here in new york, watching the television, and

but having interviewed bob dylan and spent some time with bob dylan and met bob dylan's son, jacob, and spent time with him, i got to say flat-out, bob dylan is not a racist. i can't believe i even have to say that, but we know this in a way that we know martin luther king is not a racist, nelson mandela is not a racist. we know this from their work. this guy has a track record. "lonesome death," "in the wind." "hurricane." human dignity. it's threaded throughout the fabric of who he is as an artist. this whole thing just seems insane. i'm saying that with all due respect to whatever pain the people are bringing this charge are feeling. >> jeff, dylan was in paris to receive the legion of honor award when he was charged. the government is not trying to fine him. they're apparently just looking for an apology. if you were his legal adviser, would you tell him to give one? >> you know, bob dylan operates by his own rules. he is a truly great man. i don't think there is any dispute about that. he is a major cultural figure in american history and he has been on the right side of all these

we have seen jacob zuma the current south african president arriving. he of course the president that took over two down the line from nelson mandela. mandela came to power in '94 but only served one term as president. he was 75 when he came into power. and he handed over. the memorial service when it gets underway, leaders from around the world but also celebrities that associated with nelson mandela. we saw charlize they are ron earlier. she was born in south africa. a small town 30 miles east of here on the other side of johannesburg. we have seen bono arrive. the star of u 2. he got to know nelson mandela very well over the years. naomi campbell that was pictured a number of time with nelson mandela. she is a super model and he was also quite taken by the spice girls when he met them. quite a number of celebrities. oprah winfrey is going to be here today. >> i wonder what south africans will make of this week and this day. how much it will mean to them and how much they will take strength from this to move forward. >> you know, it's our 20th anniver

can see dawn is breaking and the announcement came just a few minutes before midnight from president jacob zuma that nelson mandela had passed away. so while there has been a sense of mourning in the last six, seven, eight hours, i think you're going to see a real sort of wave of emotion, of shock, of understanding, of knowledge, as people wake up to this news. so i think there is going to be a sense of thankfulness, though. i think you're not going to see hysteria, you're not going to see sort of great scenes of overemotion. you're going to see people singing and dancing. there's going to be a sense of thankfulness, although also deep deep deep sadness. >> and spike, i know you've got to go. but just to bring it back to rick stangel's point. to me that is what leadership is all about. to push down whatever feelings you may have very legitimate feelings after having been in prison for 27 years and to reach out to those who jailed you who oppressed you, oppressed generations of your brothers and sisters. to me that is just an extraordinary, extraordinary thing. >> yes. and that's why he was

it was just before midnight that south african president jacob zuma announced to the nation and to the world, that nelson mandela had died. >> this is the moment of our deepest sorrow. our nation has lost its greatest son. >> reporter: tributes quickly poured in from around the world, including from president barack obama. >> we've lost one of the most influential, courageous and profoundly good human beings that any of us will share time with on this earth. >> reporter: that love, shown in the massive crowds that quickly gathered outside mandela's home and around the country. singing and dancing, joyfully celebrating the life of a man who gave so many hope and freedom. >> i think we should celebrate what he has achieved and what he's given us. i wouldn't be here. i wouldn't be free, as i say, if it wasn't for him. >> reporter: south africa's first black president was surrounded by much of his family when he passed away. now, ten days of national mourning will start, during which mandela will lie in state in the capital, pretoria, so south africans can say their final good-byes, before

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and eventually that announcement from president jacob zuma that nelson mandela had died shortly before midnight south african time. outside his home many south africans have gathered, both black and white. fitting that it is both black and white because they are what nelson mandela was all about, that both races should equally mourn this man, so loved and adored in south africa. >> pelley: deborah , mandela retired from public life way back in 2004. what impact will this have on the nation now? >> reporter: many south africans will only wake up to the news that he has died tomorrow morning because they would have been asleep when the announcement was made. and this is going to be a call for unprecedented mourning in south africa. it's no surprise that nelson mandela died but that doesn't mean that the loss won't be felt. i'm a journalist who has covered mandela for many, many years. i'm also a south african who feels the pain that many south africans will be feeling. how do you summarize the life of an extraordinary man in a few words. he always had a twinkle in his eye, greeted you as

it was all happening so fast, says edison tech basketball coach jacob scott, who was less than a block away and making his way towards the bus stop. when he got to his students, he also got a surprise. >> i told the police officer who i was, why i was there. explained to him that these guys were down here to catch the bus to go to a scrimmage. did they do something wrong? >> and what did the officer say to you? >> yes, they didn't disperse. they didn't leave. we told them to go home and they didn't go home. at that time, i'm just -- i'm puzzled. next thing i know, he turns around and says, if you don't disperse from here in the next few seconds, we're going to take you downtown as well. >> rochester's police chief defended the officer's actions saying his department has received complaints about loitering and fighting in the area. and he says the boys were not actually standing at their bus stop but rather they were standing 100 yards away from it. >> this is an officer on a day-to-day basis dealing with students in the downtown area, and in this instance, based on their interaction an

by southh african time african president jacob zuma. his activism affirms the ability of men and women around the world to achieve freedom from the bonds of slavery. says hisn of michigan powerful mission of freedom, peace, tolerance cannot be confined by prison walls. his spirit and legacy live on. pennsylvania, -- we are taking your thoughts on c-span chat. madison, wisconsin. caller: hello. for me, the loss of nelson mandela is a big deal because i'm a blind person. the disabled people of america are fighting hard for our civil rights. nelson mandela has done a lot of work things considered for things like slavery. we have a topic similar. you are not entitled to the minimum wage here in america. we are specifically exempt. we are so inspired by the work of nelson mandela, we try to continue in that legacy. we want to make it so that our people, our disabled people, are no longer trapped in these workshops. host: why the blind exempt from the minimum wage? caller: the fair labor standards act of 1938 specifically exempts us. the idea

his values, and i think again as a testament that people like that are coming, and there is president jacob zuma with -- it looks like two of his wives. >> our viewers may not understand the cultural different. >> he has several wives, and in that culture it's perfectly allowable, and there has been a bit of controversy because he spent millions building a new home for all of them that i understand is connected by tunnels, and so that has caused a lot of controversy because, again, you know, there has not been a leader quite like nelson mandela who was a very modest man. he loved to dress, and he was a very fabulous dresser, but there was never any talk of corruption. his administration, of course, was slow to come to the aids issue, although he came to it and really took off in telling people there is no stigma to aids, that you have got to get tested, and this administration has been clouded by corruption and while there has been no definitive charges about corruption with this president, the amount of money that he has spent on the current places where he and his wives live has just made

jacob zuma yesterday spoke about his legacy. >> we'll always love madiba for teaching us that it is possible to overcome hatred and anger in order to build a new nation and a new society. >> president zuma also announced funeral plans for nelson mandela, including a national day of prayer and reflection this sunday, an open air memorial service at johannesburg soccer stadium next tuesday and his burial on december 15th. and in johannesburg and throughout south off africa a variety of tributes, among them flags flying at half staff, a mood echoed in the uk why david cameron said mandela's dignity inspired millions. here in the united states white house flags were lowered on the order of president obama. up on capitol hill house speaker john boehner issued a similar request. in johannesburg crowds have been gathering since mandela's death was announced. arwa damon is on the scene for us. there's been a flurry of emotions from mourners, some in tears, others celebrating the life of their beloved former leader through song and dance. tell us what you are seeing and hearing. ♪ >> reporter: well

joseph, the son of jacob, the son of isaac, the son of abraham -- >> the bishop of south africa there. as we listen to the prayers, how did it become the multicultural country that nelson mandela wanted? >> it's multicultural by natural in the demographics. it's not the nonracial. it's from the point of view of the equality of all citizens. and that really has to do very much with an economic divide that continues to persist. as well as the element that create that economic divide. townships are divided bay houses. there are educational discrepancies between the community. i think that there's still more work, significant work to do to make it nonracial in the sense of equal opportunity for all. that was also mary robinson, next to archbishop tutu. and those two are part of the elders. >> pain on him and so many millions of others in order that our diverse south african family would not be -- >> a reminder from the rabbi of the pain inflicted on nelson mandela, as dr. frasier was talking about, earlier. those years in prison. he survived. in some ways he thrived. his spirit thrived. v

i mean, he is the father -- as jacob zimmer said, he's south africa's greatest son, but he is the father of modern south africa. he was such a great patriot. i just think that he really sees as his legacy. he doesn't necessarily think about anything larger than that, even though his legacy is larger than that. i think he saved his country and brought democracy to his country. >> it was so interesting to hear president obama eulogize nelson mandela. this crowd in that stadium went wild for obama. and obama in some ways tying his own inspiration for politics, his own journeys to his own improbable journey to that of nelson mandela and comparing nelson mandela to gandhi and dr. king and abraham lincoln. this was a remarkable address. >> i think it was very personal for the president. and i think he was obviously inspired. his first political awakening came in the anti-apartheid movement. something he said i just really struck me and had resonance with me, that lovely line that nothing was inevitable about nelson mandela's life. i think in some sense he's thinking about himself, too. nothing

i think it's a challenge for the anc there, a challenge for jacob zuma to learn the lessons and move on. >> we've been hearing a lot of wonderful personal stories. we talk about the global impact, the personal stories the people have with the man, the figure, the father. what was your first impression of him when you started your journey with him. >> i had a funny first meeting with him. i was walking with him on "long walk to freedom." he came out of prison, he was unsophisticated about things. he told me about when they first held sound mikes over him, he held his head back like this. he thought it was a weapon. he didn't know what it was. after our first meeting, i said we'll have to have many, many meetings like this. he said, i don't have time for that. i stormed out. i thought, my god, the whole project was over with. when i apologized to him, i said, i have been he was in prison for 27 years, a lovely person to be around, he was sunny and he was a happy warrior and it's very hard to be out of his presence once you've been with him for a long time. >> i want to talk about the n

i'm mary jacobs and the faculty .ere the average of the program talking about the significance of the budget deal in washington both in terms of the regular order in congress and in terms of its political implications for both the democratic and republican parties as well the origins of some of what we're been seeing in washington. we're very fortunate today to have a terrific panel. with real expense in washington and the significant ways, as well as leadership roles in the state capitol in minnesota. i would like to introduce the panel in front of me. who servedlgud nick in the house in the house of representatives in washington. hemartin seybol went on to washington, where he served for 13 terms in very important positions, including as chair of the house budget committee in the hundred third congress in 1993 and 1994 which passed a budget act that played a major role in the reduction or elimination of deficits during the 1990s. weting next to congressman he was aressman representative in the minnesota to 2007.m 1979 here's also speaker of the minnesota house from 1999-2007. i went

i want to bring in mia whily, sean jacobs, bonn and raised in apartheid south africa, he is a writer at the new school. pedro mcgary is a director of the metropolitan center for research at new york stiff and eleanor cliff, an editor with "the daily best." mia, i will start with you. it's sort of this universal memorial taking place in the united states and everywhere around the world, totally deserved for nelson mandela, but i can't help but think how recent it was in history nelson mandela was a contested political figure. we were playing some of the clips in the intro. how do we get from the late 1980s, early 1980s, we have william f. buckley in 1990 saying this will be a day of infamy, maybe. how do we get from there to here? what's happened? >> part of what's happened is mandela, himself, was so effective in demonstrating he was a leader of peace and reconciliation. so the fact that people have stereotyped him into a particular type of violent, dangerous person, thanks, greatly to the propaganda of the apartheid regime, by the way, he was able to transform himself by his very ac

that's the official residents of the current president jacob zuma. there'll be many memorial services throughout the country during the three days. there'll be a state funeral. however, we have information because at that funeral nelson mandela's family and the world will say goodbye to the first nobel peace prize laureate and will be attended by world leaders, the president, mrs. obama, david cameron and his wife. the final details of the state funeral have not properly been worked out. it is reported to be sunday 15th, but it's not guaranteed. that will be the day hes buried in his ancestral home. it's 450 miles since johannesburg. that is the site of the - of three of his children and close family members. it's in a place like this that nelson mandela. madeba, will lie in peace forever. >> that was al jazeera's john terrett reporting. >> delegates from iran, the u.s. and five other world powers are preparing to iron out the details of a deal to monitor iran's nuclear program. talks are set for geneva, focussing on when the talks will be held. dipl

the man signed for other high profile events in the past including president jacob zuma and said he was hired through an interpretation company. the government continues to investigate. >> i think he is making this stuff up. he's just going with it. >> mike made the point, he is an arm's length away from president obama. and other world leaders. that ain't funny. >> that is -- oh, my gosh. >> it's bizarre. >> totally bizarre. okay. can we go to washington? that's interesting enough. >> i would rather just stay here. >> no, you are in so much trouble. okay. >> what happened? >> i want you to handle this next story really well. >> am i in trouble? >> you can't leave that. what do you mean? >> which one was yesterday? >> okay, in washington house lawmakers -- >> whoa, whoa, whoa. come on. you have viewers getting up early to listen and you say something like that and -- >> you know how many people tweeted me? telling me to hit you. i have done that. >> how was it? >> you need to take a chill pill and hold on to the refrigerator. >> this is unfair. >> in washington, house lawmakers are expe

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