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>> the last time that i saw him was actually at the inauguration of president jacob zuma. it was a passing on of the torch first to m becky, then to jacob zuma, but he was still the moral force that will held that country together and he still is and will continue to be. >> and we are almost out of time. i've got to throw this into you. you knew the mandela days. there's been a lot of disappointment in thao mbeki and jacob zuma on management levels and personality wise. do you think nelson mandela would have been happy with the country he's left behind now? >> no, he would never be happy until the hungry are fed and the naked clothed and the sick are healed. but they start the out with a nation where 85% of the people were discriminated against. they're probably now down to 70% of the people hole still in poverty. but we have in this nation probably 30% of the people are still in poverty. so we've got a long way to go. >> ambassador young, thank you so much for your time. >> fascinating >> other world leaders have been inspired by mandela's ability to fib his enemies. a ma
>> the last time that i saw him was actually at the inauguration of president jacob zuma. it was a passing on of the torch first to m becky, then to jacob zuma, but he was still the moral force that will held that country together and he still is and will continue to be. >> and we are almost out of time. i've got to throw this into you. you knew the mandela days. there's been a lot of disappointment in thao mbeki and jacob zuma on management levels and personality wise. do you think...
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i'm trying to make it out. >> it was jacob zuma. >> we both thought it at the same time. it's just the been confirmed to us by producers, that is the current president of south africa, jacob zuma in that shot. it is important to point out to our viewers from around the world, you can hear the singing there and see the dancing. it may seem a lig jarring, but south africans sing, they sing whenner that happy, when they're sad. they sang a great amount for nelson mandela in prison and they are singing many of the same songs. >> listen to what they are doing now. [ music playing ] i guess one thing, too, south africans have had 26 weeks upset by the news mandela has finally passed away. as they are saying, 26 long weeks he has been gravely ill. he spent that time in hospital, three months in hospital. then they finally moved him to his home. he was under medical care. in many ways, he was on life support machines at some stage, he was taking a lot of drugs. he was on a dialysis machine. the news has been constantly in the headlines in south africa. so they had 26 weeks really
i'm trying to make it out. >> it was jacob zuma. >> we both thought it at the same time. it's just the been confirmed to us by producers, that is the current president of south africa, jacob zuma in that shot. it is important to point out to our viewers from around the world, you can hear the singing there and see the dancing. it may seem a lig jarring, but south africans sing, they sing whenner that happy, when they're sad. they sang a great amount for nelson mandela in prison and...
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age of 95, just a few hours ago, the official announcement was made in south africa by the president, jacob zuma. a very, very sad day. people are celebrating, though, the life and times. these are coming in from johannesburg, outside the home of nelson mandela. it's approaching 2:00 a.m. in south africa, but the people are out on the streets. i suspect they will be throughout these next ten days of official mourning in south africa. we're watching what's going on, and writtening us on the phone right now is basimo gabriel, who spent years in robben island in the prison with nelson mandela. mr. swatwali, thank you for joining us. give us some thoughts, what it was like during the apartheid regime. tell us what it was like, eye specially on robben island in prison. >> well, let me first say that our people in south africa and the world have lost . >>> that's what we learned from nelson mandela. during the dark days with him on robben island. today he is seen as an icon of the world, whose teachings, as well as principles need to be embraced by all. he was embraced even by his own jailers, be
age of 95, just a few hours ago, the official announcement was made in south africa by the president, jacob zuma. a very, very sad day. people are celebrating, though, the life and times. these are coming in from johannesburg, outside the home of nelson mandela. it's approaching 2:00 a.m. in south africa, but the people are out on the streets. i suspect they will be throughout these next ten days of official mourning in south africa. we're watching what's going on, and writtening us on the...
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we heard the announcement from jacob zuma, the president of south africa. we want to welcome our viewers who may just be tuning in here in the united states and around the world. we'll have special breaking news coverage of the death of nelson mandela here in "the situation room." we're watching what's going on, christiane and robyn kurnow is in johannesburg watching what's going on as well. we will only now begin, christiane, to get reaction. i'm sure that leaders around the world will want to speak out and pay their special respects to this world leader, from the president of the united states, the leaders in europe, africa, all over the world. it's only just beginning now. >> reporter: that's right. indeed, president zuma paid tribute to how much nelson mandela had been embraced by the world, that he was also the global representation of this relentless and unyielding struggle for freedom and justice, and he never gave up. i remember, you know, watching him being released from prison from very far away, from here in new york, watching the television, and
we heard the announcement from jacob zuma, the president of south africa. we want to welcome our viewers who may just be tuning in here in the united states and around the world. we'll have special breaking news coverage of the death of nelson mandela here in "the situation room." we're watching what's going on, christiane and robyn kurnow is in johannesburg watching what's going on as well. we will only now begin, christiane, to get reaction. i'm sure that leaders around the world...
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let's hear more about the call to south african president jacob zuma. >> it was shortly after jacob zuma announced the passing of nelson mandela to south africa and the world that president obama took to the briefing room to talk about his reminiscenses and everything that nelson mandela meant to him. some time in the evening, you are right. the president placed a phone call to jacob zuma. he expressed condolences from himself and michelle obama. he called nelson mandela a man of kindness and humility, influencing his own life, and the president only met nelson mandela one time as a senator. he had visited south africa twice, once as a senator and once this past june with his family, unable to meet the ailing nelson mandela at this point. the president took to the briefing room, talked about the inspiration that nelson mandela was for him, talked about the anecdote. nelson mandela and a struggle against apartheid, inspired president obama as a student in the late '70s, and early '80s, to become involved in politics for the first time. let's listen to what obama had to say. >> we will not
let's hear more about the call to south african president jacob zuma. >> it was shortly after jacob zuma announced the passing of nelson mandela to south africa and the world that president obama took to the briefing room to talk about his reminiscenses and everything that nelson mandela meant to him. some time in the evening, you are right. the president placed a phone call to jacob zuma. he expressed condolences from himself and michelle obama. he called nelson mandela a man of kindness...
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they have booed loudly whenever jacob zuma's picture was put up on the screen. i am hearing chanting and singing beginning. that is going to be heard on the stage and is clearly a slap at president zuma. you can simply tell that the crowd in this stadium as the president speaks is virtually sitting on their hands, just about 30 seconds ago, we heard the first applause for president zuma, and it was rather subdued applause at that, very little of the explosive reaction that we've seen from some of the other speakers, especially from president obama, who was very well received here. we were down in the stands and talking to some of the folks just after he spoke. one man told me we love he's hes celebrate the life of nelson mandela. we can't wait until he gets started on his third term and he gave that a big laugh. that's the scene inside the stadium. it's thinning out, half full right now. some of these folks have been here for nine solid hours now. the gates opened at 6:30 johannesburg time and a huge rush of people came in. a lot of people put in time sitting in
they have booed loudly whenever jacob zuma's picture was put up on the screen. i am hearing chanting and singing beginning. that is going to be heard on the stage and is clearly a slap at president zuma. you can simply tell that the crowd in this stadium as the president speaks is virtually sitting on their hands, just about 30 seconds ago, we heard the first applause for president zuma, and it was rather subdued applause at that, very little of the explosive reaction that we've seen from some...
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it's been an important speech for jacob zuma to deliver. of course you remember at the public memorial service he was booed. that's embarrassing, humiliating and took him and the other a.n.c. leaders by surprise. they had to go into the crowd and tell people to keep it down, and publicly reprimanded the crowd saying, "you must show respect." that is the freedom of expression and freedom of speech that nelson mandela went to prison for, being exercised against the party that he loved. this was on important speech for jacob zuma, and he did better. he sang, which the crowd loves, and was speaking more from the heart, more personally, which is what people want to hear from the president at this time, reassurance that the party of nelson mandela is in safe hands. however, outside of this arena and, you know, this week of remembering and celebrating, we know that the african national congress is in trouble. there are widespread allegations of corruption. jacob zuma has been facing difficulty on the spending of taxpayers' dollars on his home. the
it's been an important speech for jacob zuma to deliver. of course you remember at the public memorial service he was booed. that's embarrassing, humiliating and took him and the other a.n.c. leaders by surprise. they had to go into the crowd and tell people to keep it down, and publicly reprimanded the crowd saying, "you must show respect." that is the freedom of expression and freedom of speech that nelson mandela went to prison for, being exercised against the party that he loved....
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. >> after i started working with them i was invited to meet president nelson mandela and president jacob zuma while reference rend jessie jackson was in down. i never forget nelson mandela greeting me in that voice, "how nice to meet you, young lady." highs mind was sharp and he had a charisma. i met his grandson, who later told me about the important example his grandfather set for him. >> he came out of gaol and said, "i don't want to take revenge, i want to create peace and mover forward. for me i'm continuing what has been started by our grandfather, involved in the liberation movement across africa. >> i'll never forget what dooeb said in the end, "when we feel like we are running out of time that's when it's important to take our time. and i will remember his legacy. >> i was not the only one with a special memory. president obama met nelson mandela in 2005 and will travel to south africa to attend memorial services. he'll be joined by former presidents bill clinton and george bush. >> 2013 is poised to be the best year for hire since 2005, before the recession. year low and is at
. >> after i started working with them i was invited to meet president nelson mandela and president jacob zuma while reference rend jessie jackson was in down. i never forget nelson mandela greeting me in that voice, "how nice to meet you, young lady." highs mind was sharp and he had a charisma. i met his grandson, who later told me about the important example his grandfather set for him. >> he came out of gaol and said, "i don't want to take revenge, i want to create...
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day one was thursday and the announcement by jacob zuma. on to friday, day two, books of condolence will be placed so people can pay their reports and record memories of the man they knew as madiba. on saturday, day three, formal invitations will be issued to world leaders. most will want to attend if they can't. sunday, day four, and the media begins a long process for those wishing to cover nelson mandela's final days. nelson mandela's coffin will be moved so the sowetta distribute. the stadium has a capacity for 95,000. on tuesday, nelson mandela's body will be moved to the union building. this is the seat of the south african government and the rehearsals will begin at the state mem yore jal. on wednesday and just, day seven and eight. the state memorial service will take place as the country says its final goodbyes. on friday, day nine, there's spected to be a symbolic inspection. it will be flown to the family compound in the eastern cape. after all of that, on saturday, day 10, nelson mandela's burial will take place. we are told it
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the president government, jacob zuma, his administration, they have a lot of work to do. 10 days, two weeks. people are celebrating, then what? reality sings? >> good to see you again. let's take a look at the live picture again as we get you to break. celebrating the life of nelson mandela. jump in here, ali. >> nelson mandela and the new president is no nelson mandela. south africa has some problems in front of of them. >> we'll take a break. after a break, this is al jazeera america. >> we are back, welcome back to the continuing coverage of the death of nelson mandela. look at this. this is the apollo theatre in harlem. >> that's beautiful. >> memory of nelson mandela. >> remember the days before apartheid was over, you could go to harlem and buy the stalls that the guys were selling, "free nelson mandela." it was nelson mandela central. >> i was actually in a room, in a theatre, and i can't remember the year. i've been trying to think of the year, and he was there. i saw stephen harper of canada, all of canada mourns with the family, and the citizens of south africa, the world ha
the president government, jacob zuma, his administration, they have a lot of work to do. 10 days, two weeks. people are celebrating, then what? reality sings? >> good to see you again. let's take a look at the live picture again as we get you to break. celebrating the life of nelson mandela. jump in here, ali. >> nelson mandela and the new president is no nelson mandela. south africa has some problems in front of of them. >> we'll take a break. after a break, this is al...
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we saw the rebuke of president jacob zuma, where he was booed by the crowd. that's never happened before. wife never seen people in south africa to say to the ruling party, to the african national congress, you need to do better. you need to take his legacy and run with it. i was speaking to a young gentleman in a town where mandela was born, he pointed out look, we're not sure whether the future is safe with these leaders. let's take a listen to what he has to say. >> a lot of people were scared of doing wrong things because of the old man. and he was expected everywhere. so now it's a question of will the nation unite again. >> and there's that thought. the worry that now that mandela is dead people will forget his legacy. won't act like he would have. and that means lot of questions for next year's election and olot of questions for the political leaders currently being questioned by many south africans richelle. >> there is only one nelson mandela, that is the reality of it. we'll have to see what happens. nick schiffrin reporting. a special on nelson man
we saw the rebuke of president jacob zuma, where he was booed by the crowd. that's never happened before. wife never seen people in south africa to say to the ruling party, to the african national congress, you need to do better. you need to take his legacy and run with it. i was speaking to a young gentleman in a town where mandela was born, he pointed out look, we're not sure whether the future is safe with these leaders. let's take a listen to what he has to say. >> a lot of people...
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jacob zuma singing that song at the beginning of his eulogy was making clear the context in which nelson mandela should be remembered along with all the greatness he has achieved. i'm joined here by the chief executor of the nelson mandela foundation, one of the legacy bodies of nelson mandela and of his name. firstly, you watched the funeral and saw the respect, the dignity. what went through your mind when you saw nelson mandela finally go? >> i think it was a fitting tribute to the life well-lived. i think south africans have this image that we shouldn't just be crying at this moment and mourning his passing, but we should be celebrating because madiba got 95 years, but he also gave 67 years of his life of service. then he retired three times, and i think those three retirements were preparing us for what was coming. even when it came, you still had the sense of loss, the deep sense of loss. we feel left with that. some of the staff members of the nelson mandela foundation have served nelson mandela for over 20 years. it's encouraging to them to see how they have pulled together in th
jacob zuma singing that song at the beginning of his eulogy was making clear the context in which nelson mandela should be remembered along with all the greatness he has achieved. i'm joined here by the chief executor of the nelson mandela foundation, one of the legacy bodies of nelson mandela and of his name. firstly, you watched the funeral and saw the respect, the dignity. what went through your mind when you saw nelson mandela finally go? >> i think it was a fitting tribute to the...
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you also have jacob zuma who is a zulu and was a sheep herder and this country is rising up to make sure that its voice is heard. so what do you think would be his greatest legacy he has left behind? >> i think it's a legacy of mercy. to those who are at least deserving. his own country, virtually threw him away. he spent 27 years locked up, and came out to not only forgive but stand with his oppressors, no matter what you throw at south africa, the south african person is amenable, and they are going to see a triumph out of a deep tragedy. >> have you met mandela? what do you know of him? >> i did. i met former president nelson mandela back in 2010, i was living there but i was visiting with the former president as well as reverend jesse jackson, civil rights and billy mitchell leader here, and i also met the current president. and i remember the first morning i spoke with him directly. in that deep voice of his, and he was raiding four newspapers in four ding languages and his mind was sharp, and he was cheeky, and pleasant, and vivacious, and everything you would expect of a man who h
you also have jacob zuma who is a zulu and was a sheep herder and this country is rising up to make sure that its voice is heard. so what do you think would be his greatest legacy he has left behind? >> i think it's a legacy of mercy. to those who are at least deserving. his own country, virtually threw him away. he spent 27 years locked up, and came out to not only forgive but stand with his oppressors, no matter what you throw at south africa, the south african person is amenable, and...
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joseph, the son of jacob. the son of isaac. the son of abraham was thrown into a pit with snakes by his brothers. full of hatred and jealousy towards them and then he was sold into slavery and compiled from his father and from his home for 22 years. many of which -- >> i think he was more a methodist if i'm not mistaken but a man of strong religious faith out wardly. >> no. his family told me he wasn't a man of faith. he believed in infinity. what is key about mandela when you look to him and his sense of himself and where he got his strength from, where, in fact, he got his spirituality from was the rural roots, his african traditional existence. we will say it over and over again. his childhood was filled with rituals and ceremonies and that still was very much in the way he thought even as he, you know, emerged as a modern man, you know, with a law degree and he became president. this is why there is this wonderful mixture of faith that is more deeply rooted in these ancient traditions of africa. >> we have to take a break.
joseph, the son of jacob. the son of isaac. the son of abraham was thrown into a pit with snakes by his brothers. full of hatred and jealousy towards them and then he was sold into slavery and compiled from his father and from his home for 22 years. many of which -- >> i think he was more a methodist if i'm not mistaken but a man of strong religious faith out wardly. >> no. his family told me he wasn't a man of faith. he believed in infinity. what is key about mandela when you look...
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joining us from san francisco, jacob good to see you. is they'e after. google doesn't play by the rules that others play by. they have almost unlimited resources. it is an academic institution unto themselves. it is a broad scoop that they have, you know, used to bring all of these companies on board. and each of these companies that they've acquired over the past year has really been a different part of a really broad diverse portfolio of robotics. the idea here is, i think, really mastering the collection of data. i think google recognizes that the future is going to involve robotics in many, many formation, from industrial to home use, with be first to the data and own the data in that market. >> so jacob, how did that amazie founder mark rayburn was one of the first to develop robotic imagery, if you want to scare a child show them a child some footage. my daughter is terrified of this, it is modeled on nature. it is a kind of constant rebalancing that makes for incredible balance when i.t. comes to rubble, snow, you can shove the thing with your sho
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. >> correspondent jacob ward checks out the new technology. >> a year ago a start-up founder and vice president of a tech company in san francisco bought 1,0003d printer. he made keys. >> i lock myself out of the apartment. i picked up a lock-pick set to pick my way in and realised, "hey, instead of walking three blocks to a locksmith to make a copy of a key, i can print one at home." >> he realised he could make others' keys by take pictures on a cell phone. he can photograph a normal key, literally one on a bar, feed the image into his 3d printer and produce a working copy. >> keys are simple. to get a key to work you have to outline the shape, a 2d shape and you have the key. >> is the thickness important. >> no, it just has to be thin enough to slide in. >>. >> these are red herrings. i have a book there which has the top five key types, and that covers 95% of the u.s. >> ras can is a nice guy with a high-paying job. he's not looking to break into anyone's home. he wanted to make a point. >> my hope is that people realise keys are autodated. these thingses are really just senses o
. >> correspondent jacob ward checks out the new technology. >> a year ago a start-up founder and vice president of a tech company in san francisco bought 1,0003d printer. he made keys. >> i lock myself out of the apartment. i picked up a lock-pick set to pick my way in and realised, "hey, instead of walking three blocks to a locksmith to make a copy of a key, i can print one at home." >> he realised he could make others' keys by take pictures on a cell phone....
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we saw jacob zuma booed at the public ceremony last tuesday. archbishop desmond tutu who was a close friend of nelson mandela, and a fighter with nelson mandela for the tearing down of apartheid. there were questions as to whether he was invited to the funeral and didn't come until the last minute. all showed tensions within the african national congress. where does south africa go from here. people are saying that his legacy will be preserve served. are people worried that the divisions may create problems? >> this is a moment of redefinition for south africa, but as you can see through south africa's history, its triumph almost always comms after tragedy. this case is no different. a lot of people i spoke to, including former president mbeke, and others, they are saying a lot of south africa's work needs to be continuing to fulfil mandela's legacy. you heard barack obama sounding critical saying, "look, the world is revelling in nelson mandela's legacy. peep don't want to put in a mooedy come. people i spoke to says number one needs to revita
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can see dawn is breaking and the announcement came just a few minutes before midnight from president jacob zuma that nelson mandela had passed away. so while there has been a sense of mourning in the last six, seven, eight hours, i think you're going to see a real sort of wave of emotion, of shock, of understanding, of knowledge, as people wake up to this news. so i think there is going to be a sense of thankfulness, though. i think you're not going to see hysteria, you're not going to see sort of great scenes of overemotion. you're going to see people singing and dancing. there's going to be a sense of thankfulness, although also deep deep deep sadness. >> and spike, i know you've got to go. but just to bring it back to rick stangel's point. to me that is what leadership is all about. to push down whatever feelings you may have very legitimate feelings after having been in prison for 27 years and to reach out to those who jailed you who oppressed you, oppressed generations of your brothers and sisters. to me that is just an extraordinary, extraordinary thing. >> yes. and that's why he was
can see dawn is breaking and the announcement came just a few minutes before midnight from president jacob zuma that nelson mandela had passed away. so while there has been a sense of mourning in the last six, seven, eight hours, i think you're going to see a real sort of wave of emotion, of shock, of understanding, of knowledge, as people wake up to this news. so i think there is going to be a sense of thankfulness, though. i think you're not going to see hysteria, you're not going to see sort...
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president jacob zuma, deputy president makalnta and former president bnaki. thank you, thank you, thank you. former president f.w. de klerk.
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now, the service itself is expected to include tributes by south african president jacob zuma. and u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon. i'm joined by haru mutasa in soweto. it's a sombre occasion, despite the fact that people are dancing and enjoying themselves. do you think people will use this as an opportunity to look at south africa today, and see how they live? >> yes, exactly. a lot of people are thinking about the future of south africa. even though it's raining and cold, people are filing in. people have come from all over the place. this group, for example, have arrived. >> where did you come from? >> okay. we are from nigeria. we are here to deliver a message from his holiness. he declared that former president nelson mandela is a saint of our time. and from henceforth everybody in africa, south africa and the world at large should address him as saint nelson mandela. >> what does he mean, nelson mandela, to nigerians, as a hole? >> nelson mandela is a true example of the teachings right out of the cross which has forgiven humility and humanity. nigeria also has forgiv
now, the service itself is expected to include tributes by south african president jacob zuma. and u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon. i'm joined by haru mutasa in soweto. it's a sombre occasion, despite the fact that people are dancing and enjoying themselves. do you think people will use this as an opportunity to look at south africa today, and see how they live? >> yes, exactly. a lot of people are thinking about the future of south africa. even though it's raining and cold, people are...
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south africa's president jacob zuma led them in a song reminiscent of the years of struggle. we, the nation, are crying the words go. the song sung at the funerals at fallen hero with an expression of gratitude for perhaps the greatest hero of them all. >> we wish today to express two simple words. thank you. thank you for being everything we wanted and needed in a leader during a difficult period in our lives. the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense. our own journey continues. >> reporter: in a blend of the formal with the traditional, there were deeply personal tributes as well from one of his 18 grandchildren. >> we shall miss you when you were not pleased with our behavior. we shall miss your voice as you told us stories of your childhood. we shall miss your laughter. >> reporter: from life-long friend and fellow robben island prison addressing the man he called madala. >> what do we say to you, madala, in these days? the last, final moments together before you exit the public stage. when he died, i lost a father, and now i'm lost a brother. my life is in
south africa's president jacob zuma led them in a song reminiscent of the years of struggle. we, the nation, are crying the words go. the song sung at the funerals at fallen hero with an expression of gratitude for perhaps the greatest hero of them all. >> we wish today to express two simple words. thank you. thank you for being everything we wanted and needed in a leader during a difficult period in our lives. the long walk to freedom has ended in the physical sense. our own journey...
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. >> a day of prayer and reflection is what jacob zummer asked fore. for. you and i have spoke many times about the most difficult years for south africa. you were there for all of it and you studied what mandela did. reflect for a minute i before we go into more detail what this means for you personally. for myself and all south africans this is an event that people have been dreading in many ways. it's an event that south africans have shown is one that can be celebrated. it's not only the death of nelson ma mandela is being mour. it's a life that promised so much and gave so much to other people. these are the key issues for all of the people in south africa. understanding what nelson mandela meant and a moment of reflection and the death has led to a deep intraspection with so. this sense of refle reflection d self apri analysis has been spad by the death of nelson mandela. with me is somebody who has lived through the to you tumults years. he has been charged with the events. he joins us now. you were with nelson mandela when he died. it must have bask
. >> a day of prayer and reflection is what jacob zummer asked fore. for. you and i have spoke many times about the most difficult years for south africa. you were there for all of it and you studied what mandela did. reflect for a minute i before we go into more detail what this means for you personally. for myself and all south africans this is an event that people have been dreading in many ways. it's an event that south africans have shown is one that can be celebrated. it's not only...
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jacob zuma arriving. of course, he will be delivering what is, i guess, referred to as a keynote address during this memorial service. at this soccer stadium, which has played so many moments during mandela's life. it seems fitting to have his memorial there. >> absolutely, john. there could not be a more fitting venue for this memorial service for nelson mandela. this is the site of nelson mandela's last public appearance. the closing stages of the 2010 world cup. that's when we saw him along with his wife on the back of a golf cart, if you will, wrapped up against the wall. scenes that touched the heart of many as they saw him. he looked frail. he was obviously advanced in his years. that was the last time we saw him in public in 2010. if you were to go back to time, this place behind me was also the scene of nelson mandela's first public speech. well, not first. the speech in the days after he was released. two days after he was released in february 1990. he addressed the crowds here in this stadium. s
jacob zuma arriving. of course, he will be delivering what is, i guess, referred to as a keynote address during this memorial service. at this soccer stadium, which has played so many moments during mandela's life. it seems fitting to have his memorial there. >> absolutely, john. there could not be a more fitting venue for this memorial service for nelson mandela. this is the site of nelson mandela's last public appearance. the closing stages of the 2010 world cup. that's when we saw him...
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some drawn with exhaustion and grief. [♪ singing ] >> south africa's president jacob zuma led them in a song reminiscent of the years of struggle. [♪ singing ] interwe the nation are crying, the words go, from the song sung at the funerals of fallen heroes for the expression of gratitude for perhaps the greatest hero of them all. >> we wish today to express two simple words: thank you. thank you for being everything we wanted. and needed. in a leader. during a difficult period. in our lives. your long walk to freedom has ended, in the physical sense. our own journey continues. >> in a blend of the formal with the traditional they were deeply personal tributes as well. from one of his 18 grandchildren. >> we saw you stand by us when you were not pleased with our behavior. we shall miss your voice, as you told us stories of your childhood. we shale miss your laughter. >> reporter: and from lifelong frind and fellow prisoner, addressing the ma'am he called madala. >> what do we say to you, madal after in these days? the last final moments together before you exit the public stage? when
some drawn with exhaustion and grief. [♪ singing ] >> south africa's president jacob zuma led them in a song reminiscent of the years of struggle. [♪ singing ] interwe the nation are crying, the words go, from the song sung at the funerals of fallen heroes for the expression of gratitude for perhaps the greatest hero of them all. >> we wish today to express two simple words: thank you. thank you for being everything we wanted. and needed. in a leader. during a difficult period....
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helped create, the hands on the statute are open both of them open, the arms raised in embrace with jacob zuma said should symbolize the south africa that is now in place. so south africans moving on, the mourning for nelson mandela over, this is the transitional day in a way, a national public holiday which everybody is celebrating, we will hear a speech from president zuma within the next half hour but now it's very much looking to the future. now it's very much taking up those challenges that everybody has been speaking about through the past ten days, that is a legacy that nelson mandela left how to make it work, that is the reality that is now facing south africans today as they pause during the period of mourning and going back to their lives when all the work, all the industries and everything opens tomorrow after this public holiday. >> and mike just a quick one you had a chance to look at it, we will have our own opinion about works of art, due do you think it does mandela justice, "yes" or "no"? >> yes, it does, it does capture something of the man and that particular pose that
helped create, the hands on the statute are open both of them open, the arms raised in embrace with jacob zuma said should symbolize the south africa that is now in place. so south africans moving on, the mourning for nelson mandela over, this is the transitional day in a way, a national public holiday which everybody is celebrating, we will hear a speech from president zuma within the next half hour but now it's very much looking to the future. now it's very much taking up those challenges...
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jacob, good to see pup firs see. why is china trying for a lunar expedition at this moment in time? >> that is really the question on everybody's mind. why is china doing this? they're 60 years behind the game. we put men on the among in the 1960's, 1970's. but in china's case it's a similar motivation that we had in mind. china's military and aerospace military has collapsed into one budget. anything that is coming out that have budget is going to have an application in both arenas. china is very interested in the research that can come off the moon. but i think this is a matter of nationalistic pride. china, which is very, very interested in its image abroad, very interested in asserting itself really wants to get to the moon perhaps for the very same reasons we wanted to under kennedy. >> how does this interfere with nasa's research, is this a big deal? >> nasa's vessel is mapping out the dust on the moon, trying to learn more about the topography of the moon. what the chinese is attempting to do is very interesting and very complicated. they're trying to do a soft landing on the
jacob, good to see pup firs see. why is china trying for a lunar expedition at this moment in time? >> that is really the question on everybody's mind. why is china doing this? they're 60 years behind the game. we put men on the among in the 1960's, 1970's. but in china's case it's a similar motivation that we had in mind. china's military and aerospace military has collapsed into one budget. anything that is coming out that have budget is going to have an application in both arenas....
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south african president jacob zuma said our nation has lost its greatest son. our people have lost a father. mandela's hospital has been moved. this is the scene right outside mandela's home there in johannesburg in the out market neighborhood. you can see right now people are laying flowers and to bring tribute to the man widely seen as the father of modern south africa. he was president for five years. he stepped down, has not been president for 14 years but remains very much in the heart of so many people there. this news came later than night south african time and so right now as this country wakes up, 34 minutes past 8:00, many people are learning nelson mandela is at rest. >> and, of course, mandela accomplished so many great things. he was the father of a nation. he led south africa through its battle against oppression and on to democracy and it kept him away from home. he also stayed very close to his family as we've mentioned our robyn curnow has covered nelson mandela since 1996 and she joins us now, once again, live from johanns burg did talk to hi
south african president jacob zuma said our nation has lost its greatest son. our people have lost a father. mandela's hospital has been moved. this is the scene right outside mandela's home there in johannesburg in the out market neighborhood. you can see right now people are laying flowers and to bring tribute to the man widely seen as the father of modern south africa. he was president for five years. he stepped down, has not been president for 14 years but remains very much in the heart of...
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jacob ward, al jazeera, monterey, california. we will show you why. >>> plus running the company, general motors has made history to name as ceo the first woman to lead one of the big three automakers. i'm david shuster in for ali velshi who is in had south africa. this is real money. >> this is real "real money" and you are the most important part of the show. we have news from capitol hill. the federal budget deal, if approved by the republican-head house and democratically led senate it will will another government shutdown in january and that stability would be very good news for our economy. what is in the deal and what is not in the deal? >> david, the first thing you should know about this deal is that it's not a done deal in terms the house and senate, and it remains to be seen whether conservatives and liberals will get on board. there is enough for them to hate. the biggest news out of this deal, that they're able to make any kind of deal at all given everything that has happened before. after washington dysfunctioned t
jacob ward, al jazeera, monterey, california. we will show you why. >>> plus running the company, general motors has made history to name as ceo the first woman to lead one of the big three automakers. i'm david shuster in for ali velshi who is in had south africa. this is real money. >> this is real "real money" and you are the most important part of the show. we have news from capitol hill. the federal budget deal, if approved by the republican-head house and...
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the president of south africa, jacob zuma is speaking. >> nelson mandela, the founding president of our democratic nation has departed. >> it is 7:00 pm eastern time in new york, 2am in johannesburg, where mourners, as you can see are gathering outside nelson mandela's home. they are celebrating the life of south africa's first democratically elected president. you are looking at the scenes, people paying respects for a man imprisoned for believing in freedom and equality, a man who became a towering symbol for human rights, equality. >> people of all walks of life, religions, colours and ages gather here, this is the south africa nelson mandela dreamed. nelson mandela inspired people around the world. mourners gather outside the embassy. >> former president george w. bush and laura bush expressed condolences, releasing a statement staying: -- saying: >> we will not see the likes of nelson mandela again. so it falls to us, as best we can, to forge the example that he set. >> this seems to be turning into a celebration of the life of nelson mandela. >> i can barely hear you through all t
the president of south africa, jacob zuma is speaking. >> nelson mandela, the founding president of our democratic nation has departed. >> it is 7:00 pm eastern time in new york, 2am in johannesburg, where mourners, as you can see are gathering outside nelson mandela's home. they are celebrating the life of south africa's first democratically elected president. you are looking at the scenes, people paying respects for a man imprisoned for believing in freedom and equality, a man who...
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i travelled with a friend of the family and reverend jesse jackson to meet nelson mandela, and jacob zuma. there i met the family members. close. >> we heard from heads of state and saw the public views. what has it been like to be there perfectly, that's something we hadn't heard. >> you know, this has been an incredible moment in history to be a part of, but on a personal lef it's sad. the most moving part of the ceremony, where it hit me, the gravt itty of what i was witnessing is when you saw nelson mandela's casket come around the corner, followed by the men, born to the son that died of aids, and they followed the casket and literally walked the casket draped in the south african flag, to the grave. it was heartbreaking, incredibly sad. >> the pictures were beautiful. how is the mandela family dealing with the loss? >> i think they are doing as well as anyone can do under the circumstances. i know that every family member i spoke to was looking forward to today because today is a day this finally the blockades are lifted around the perimeter of their homes. and they are ready t
i travelled with a friend of the family and reverend jesse jackson to meet nelson mandela, and jacob zuma. there i met the family members. close. >> we heard from heads of state and saw the public views. what has it been like to be there perfectly, that's something we hadn't heard. >> you know, this has been an incredible moment in history to be a part of, but on a personal lef it's sad. the most moving part of the ceremony, where it hit me, the gravt itty of what i was witnessing...
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today was a day of reflection and prayer by jacob zuma. in churches and temples across the country services have been held. we are just a couple of miles for orlando stadium in soweto. that'll be the site of a mainly junior memorial service. president obama and other world leaders will attend. on sunday the funeral service will be held. nelson mandela will be buried in qunu, his home village, it was be a small affair. people will learn to educate the yawning as to whoa he was. >> it's are remarkable scope. what are the messages coming in from religious leaders? >> well, you can put it simply. from father sebastian at the largest catholic church in soweto, he told me a couple of hours ago that nelson mandela paved the way. now we need to walk it. his sermon is we can live back to the past, let's take what he did and move ahead. that's a basic message religious leaders are having over the country. here in soweto all the reflection and prayers is manifesting itself in a massive and joyful street scope. we have seep seen parade, dancing and si
today was a day of reflection and prayer by jacob zuma. in churches and temples across the country services have been held. we are just a couple of miles for orlando stadium in soweto. that'll be the site of a mainly junior memorial service. president obama and other world leaders will attend. on sunday the funeral service will be held. nelson mandela will be buried in qunu, his home village, it was be a small affair. people will learn to educate the yawning as to whoa he was. >> it's are...
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jacob ward has the story. >> in many ways oakland, california is the perfect place to live. it's warm and beautiful here. are it's an hour from the pacific, three and a half hours from yosemite. but like many other places in the country, this city is plagued with the sound of gun fire, as many as eight shootings a day. not only is gun fire per you vasive, it's very loud. police know about gun fire, shot spotter is one of several companies selling such a system. the technology is born out of earthquake detection which has also been adapted by the u.s. military to stop sniemers. the company installs microphones in communities inflicted with voyages. the system can triangulate the shooter. the system may also reveal just how inaccurate our understanding of gun violence is in this country. official estimates are based to 911 calls, but most gun fire doesn't result in either outcome. >> unfortunately when somebody fires a gun, people call 911 only 20% of the time. the first challenge four out of five times nobody knows it happens exeb except the person o pulls the trigger. the gu
jacob ward has the story. >> in many ways oakland, california is the perfect place to live. it's warm and beautiful here. are it's an hour from the pacific, three and a half hours from yosemite. but like many other places in the country, this city is plagued with the sound of gun fire, as many as eight shootings a day. not only is gun fire per you vasive, it's very loud. police know about gun fire, shot spotter is one of several companies selling such a system. the technology is born out...
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jacob zuma yesterday spoke about his legacy. >> we'll always love madiba for teaching us that it is possible to overcome hatred and anger in order to build a new nation and a new society. >> president zuma also announced funeral plans for nelson mandela, including a national day of prayer and reflection this sunday, an open air memorial service at johannesburg soccer stadium next tuesday and his burial on december 15th. and in johannesburg and throughout south off africa a variety of tributes, among them flags flying at half staff, a mood echoed in the uk why david cameron said mandela's dignity inspired millions. here in the united states white house flags were lowered on the order of president obama. up on capitol hill house speaker john boehner issued a similar request. in johannesburg crowds have been gathering since mandela's death was announced. arwa damon is on the scene for us. there's been a flurry of emotions from mourners, some in tears, others celebrating the life of their beloved former leader through song and dance. tell us what you are seeing and hearing. ♪ >> reporter: well
jacob zuma yesterday spoke about his legacy. >> we'll always love madiba for teaching us that it is possible to overcome hatred and anger in order to build a new nation and a new society. >> president zuma also announced funeral plans for nelson mandela, including a national day of prayer and reflection this sunday, an open air memorial service at johannesburg soccer stadium next tuesday and his burial on december 15th. and in johannesburg and throughout south off africa a variety...
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jacob zuma confirming that he had slipped away after a long illness. this was not a surprise. as we all know he's been gravely ill with this lung infection. and i think towards the end the drugs, the antibiotics just didn't work. his body just too frail. and he's surrounded by his family, we understand. but i think what is key moving on now, we know nelson mandela's body has been moved from his home to a mortuary in pretoria, to a military hospital in pretoria. it will stay there for the next few days where it will be embalmed. the next time you'll see him in the casket will be at a memorial service in the soccer city stadium where the world cup final was played, where there'll be a big public memorial. but i think for now we know also that not just his family has he been surrounded by but also tribal leaders, elders from his community who will be following him all the way, explaining to his body, to his departing spirit what is going on. so there'll be this very traditional mix to this as well as western funeral traditions over the next ten days of mourning. we're going to se
jacob zuma confirming that he had slipped away after a long illness. this was not a surprise. as we all know he's been gravely ill with this lung infection. and i think towards the end the drugs, the antibiotics just didn't work. his body just too frail. and he's surrounded by his family, we understand. but i think what is key moving on now, we know nelson mandela's body has been moved from his home to a mortuary in pretoria, to a military hospital in pretoria. it will stay there for the next...
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more than 70 world leaders are at the event with speeches expected from the south african president, jacob zuma, u.s. president obama, and u.s. vernal -- certainly ban ki-moon - just a few of the speakers. the services are taking place at the f.n.b. stadium, built for the football world cup which south africa opened in 2010, and where nelson mandela had his last appearance. the stadium has room for 95,000, many dignitaries and heads of state and members of the public. there are locations sets up where people can watch the event at the memorial service on a big screen in case they can't get to f.n.b. stadium. one is orlando and dobsonville stadium in soweto. the others are further east in ellis park, and those that can't make it to any of those venues, there are big screens in public places in all provinces across the country. >> dignitaries began to arrive at the stadium for the ceremony. arch bishop desmond tutu joined by former president jimmy carter. f.w. de klerk arrived in the last half hour. he dismantled apartheid. f.w. de klerk passed legislation that repealed discriminatory laws t
more than 70 world leaders are at the event with speeches expected from the south african president, jacob zuma, u.s. president obama, and u.s. vernal -- certainly ban ki-moon - just a few of the speakers. the services are taking place at the f.n.b. stadium, built for the football world cup which south africa opened in 2010, and where nelson mandela had his last appearance. the stadium has room for 95,000, many dignitaries and heads of state and members of the public. there are locations sets...
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. >> now, yesterday, at the stadium, we saw president jacob zuma stand up to give his tribute to nelson mandela, but he was booed and it was quite an embarrassment, given that this was an event that the whole world was watching. do you think this will actually spur him to perhaps change even what he is doing or how he is driving the party in the country? >> anyone would hope so. but given the power base that he does have, remember that the crowd at the stadium is not necessarily the power base, the real power base. so given that father base and the confidence that the anc has that it will continue to win elections in south africa, i certainly hope that it spurs change. but there's a part of me that says it is unlikely in the immediate future, unfortunately. as a fellow analyst said in a comment yesterday, to boo is not yet to boo in south africa. but we might be heading that way. >> very well said in dean, thank you for coming up on the show and talking to us. kenya will celebrate 50 years of independence on thursday, but the thousands of people who fought for that freedom are still lan
. >> now, yesterday, at the stadium, we saw president jacob zuma stand up to give his tribute to nelson mandela, but he was booed and it was quite an embarrassment, given that this was an event that the whole world was watching. do you think this will actually spur him to perhaps change even what he is doing or how he is driving the party in the country? >> anyone would hope so. but given the power base that he does have, remember that the crowd at the stadium is not necessarily the...
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secretary general, and a not so warm response for south african president jacob zuma. the whos an indication of widespread believe that he suffered by comparison with the man he is here to remember. gathers here to family members including the past. >> they are coming together. i think that would have made how everybody are shaking hands, and celebrating his life. >> there was thunderous applause, and to the joy of the people, criticism. >> there are too many people who happily embrace man done ba's legacy of racial consolation, but passionately resist even modest reforms. that would challenge chronic poverty. and growing inequality, there are too many leaders but do not tolerate dissent from their own people. memories of another man who spoke for the people at another gathering in this specific place. memories of the day 23 years ago, when mandela walked out of prison, and paid homage to the masses. i have spoken about freedom in my lifetime. your commitment, is your discipline has released me to stand. >> you today. on this day, the people pay homage to their leader
secretary general, and a not so warm response for south african president jacob zuma. the whos an indication of widespread believe that he suffered by comparison with the man he is here to remember. gathers here to family members including the past. >> they are coming together. i think that would have made how everybody are shaking hands, and celebrating his life. >> there was thunderous applause, and to the joy of the people, criticism. >> there are too many people who...
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. >> jacob zuma arrived and was booed soundly. he walked away from corruption charges and rape, but censured to recklessness. how has he managed to hold on to power. is it that the a.n.c. is strong and has a broad popular basis support that they'll hold on to power for the foreseeable future. >> i think it's one word. nelson mandela has been dead for a few days and the loyalty on the streets where i was, with people blamed the politicians calling them corrupt. they say ta that is the a.n.c. but in the next breath they say, "will there be alternatives?", with coalitions create themselves sniffing blood in the water. nobody believes that a.n.c. will lose the election, but if it gets down to 60%. if the a.n.c. gets down to 60 other parties will say, "wait a minute, this is fragile. this is not a guarantee." they'll appeal to people in the townships, saying, "we can do better. we can deliver more." over the next few years you may see it chipping away. maybe in the next few days there'll be a run. >> it will be interesting there and in
. >> jacob zuma arrived and was booed soundly. he walked away from corruption charges and rape, but censured to recklessness. how has he managed to hold on to power. is it that the a.n.c. is strong and has a broad popular basis support that they'll hold on to power for the foreseeable future. >> i think it's one word. nelson mandela has been dead for a few days and the loyalty on the streets where i was, with people blamed the politicians calling them corrupt. they say ta that is...
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jacob ward has more from miami. >> this weekend robots are coming to save you, or they're going to try. they're driving vehicles climbing ladders and cutting through walls as part of the robot olympics held by a government agency called darpa the defense advanced research project agency. it is hoped some day a machine like these can rescue you and me. big industrial disasters result in a situation where humans need to charge in and fix things. but where doing so is suicide. the nuclear emergency in fukushima is an example. the idea is to send in robots in our place. ones that can use the same doorways and tools that human askers might. they'll try to complete eight task this is weekend. it's the first time that these teams made made of universities and private companies made complex robots. they've give been given a half r to complete each task. think of these robots as toddlers, falling over a lot. they're in charge of insane research projects. the most insane one once upon time was the concept of a computer network that could survive a nuclear attack. that idea became the internet. t
jacob ward has more from miami. >> this weekend robots are coming to save you, or they're going to try. they're driving vehicles climbing ladders and cutting through walls as part of the robot olympics held by a government agency called darpa the defense advanced research project agency. it is hoped some day a machine like these can rescue you and me. big industrial disasters result in a situation where humans need to charge in and fix things. but where doing so is suicide. the nuclear...
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that's the official residents of the current president jacob zuma. there'll be many memorial services throughout the country during the three days. there'll be a state funeral. however, we have information because at that funeral nelson mandela's family and the world will say goodbye to the first nobel peace prize laureate and will be attended by world leaders, the president, mrs. obama, david cameron and his wife. the final details of the state funeral have not properly been worked out. it is reported to be sunday 15th, but it's not guaranteed. that will be the day hes buried in his ancestral home. it's 450 miles since johannesburg. that is the site of the - of three of his children and close family members. it's in a place like this that nelson mandela. madeba, will lie in peace forever. >> that was al jazeera's john terrett reporting. >> delegates from iran, the u.s. and five other world powers are preparing to iron out the details of a deal to monitor iran's nuclear program. talks are set for geneva, focussing on when the talks will be held. dipl
that's the official residents of the current president jacob zuma. there'll be many memorial services throughout the country during the three days. there'll be a state funeral. however, we have information because at that funeral nelson mandela's family and the world will say goodbye to the first nobel peace prize laureate and will be attended by world leaders, the president, mrs. obama, david cameron and his wife. the final details of the state funeral have not properly been worked out. it is...
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the tributes were led by jacob zuma. >> he combined two things that are not easy to do to combine practice. he did it. >> reporter: so from the capitol city where once he had been sentenced to life in prison to which he return as president, now back to his roots. wife and ex-wife comfortable each other as the last leg of the journey began. >> i think we see him now. nelson mandela and the procession accompanying the body turning the corner and into the soft rolling hills. this is an area of which he himself wrote that he spent the happiest years of his childhood. this is nelson mandela not just on a journey to his final resting place, but coming home. [♪ singing ] >> rest in peace, father. father of the nation. >> at the house that mandela built in the hills filled with traditional belief, the elders were there to greet him. the state steps back and his family steps in. and on sunday nelson mandela will be given to the ancestors. al jazeera, qunu, south africa. >> the focus is now on qunu. they will hold a funeral on sunday. >> reporter: sunday is going to be a very emotional day for nel
the tributes were led by jacob zuma. >> he combined two things that are not easy to do to combine practice. he did it. >> reporter: so from the capitol city where once he had been sentenced to life in prison to which he return as president, now back to his roots. wife and ex-wife comfortable each other as the last leg of the journey began. >> i think we see him now. nelson mandela and the procession accompanying the body turning the corner and into the soft rolling hills. this...
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his passing was announced late this afternoon by south african president jacob zuma. >> our nation has lost its greatest son. our people have lost a father. but though we knew that this day would come, nothing can diminish our sense of the profound and enduring loss. >> president obama who met mandela in 2005 said he cannot fully imagine his own life without the example set by mandela. >> we will not likely see the likes of nelson mandela again. so it falls to us as best we can to follow the example that he set to make decisions guided not by hate but by love. to never disdown the difference that one person can make. to strive for a future that is worthy of his sacrifice. for now, let us pause and give thanks for the fact that nelson mandela lived. a man who took history in his hands. and bent the arc of the moral universe toward justice. >> president obama is expected to travel to south africa to attend the memorial service for mandela. at the united nations tonight, the security council paused for a moefl silence in mandela's honor. ? south africa, crowds of mourners have gathered to
his passing was announced late this afternoon by south african president jacob zuma. >> our nation has lost its greatest son. our people have lost a father. but though we knew that this day would come, nothing can diminish our sense of the profound and enduring loss. >> president obama who met mandela in 2005 said he cannot fully imagine his own life without the example set by mandela. >> we will not likely see the likes of nelson mandela again. so it falls to us as best we...
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but having interviewed bob dylan and spent some time with bob dylan and met bob dylan's son, jacob, and spent time with him, i got to say flat-out, bob dylan is not a racist. i can't believe i even have to say that, but we know this in a way that we know martin luther king is not a racist, nelson mandela is not a racist. we know this from their work. this guy has a track record. "lonesome death," "in the wind." "hurricane." human dignity. it's threaded throughout the fabric of who he is as an artist. this whole thing just seems insane. i'm saying that with all due respect to whatever pain the people are bringing this charge are feeling. >> jeff, dylan was in paris to receive the legion of honor award when he was charged. the government is not trying to fine him. they're apparently just looking for an apology. if you were his legal adviser, would you tell him to give one? >> you know, bob dylan operates by his own rules. he is a truly great man. i don't think there is any dispute about that. he is a major cultural figure in american history and he has been on the right side of all these
but having interviewed bob dylan and spent some time with bob dylan and met bob dylan's son, jacob, and spent time with him, i got to say flat-out, bob dylan is not a racist. i can't believe i even have to say that, but we know this in a way that we know martin luther king is not a racist, nelson mandela is not a racist. we know this from their work. this guy has a track record. "lonesome death," "in the wind." "hurricane." human dignity. it's threaded throughout...