joseph, the son of jacob. the son of isaac. the son of abraham was thrown into a pit with snakes by his brothers. full of hatred and jealousy towards them and then he was sold into slavery and compiled from his father and from his home for 22 years. many of which -- >> i think he was more a methodist if i'm not mistaken but a man of strong religious faith out wardly. >> no. his family told me he wasn't a man of faith. he believed in infinity. what is key about mandela when you look to him and his sense of himself and where he got his strength from, where, in fact, he got his spirituality from was the rural roots, his african traditional existence. we will say it over and over again. his childhood was filled with rituals and ceremonies and that still was very much in the way he thought even as he, you know, emerged as a modern man, you know, with a law degree and he became president. this is why there is this wonderful mixture of faith that is more deeply rooted in these ancient traditions of africa. >> we have to take a break.

we also have video of this same interpreter next to president jacob can be zum mallast year. this isn't a man who appeared once. it's someone close to the government for some time. we should also mention that president. zuma is facing corruption charges in other areas. that's a massive complaint people have in this country about the government. unfortunately, it may be showing that south africa today is a far cry of that of nelson mandela years ago. >> errol, it it is puzzling and troubling. they've got a lot of questions to be answered. it doesn't make any sense what happened there. erroll, thank you very much. we appreciate it. as he mentioned, nelson mandela now in his final resting place. his funeral was held over the weekend in a village where he grew up. about 4500 people pack aid huge at the present time for the ceremony mandela was buried near the graves of three of his children. >> a 30-foot bronze statue of mandela was unveiled in pretoria as part of today's national day of reb conciliation. he was sworn in as president in the city nearly 20 years ago. it's beautifu

members speaking and the main appreciation and tribute will be read by current south african president jacob zuma all taking place tomorrow. this is a massive stadium. it holds, we're told, around 95,000 people. we're told that ordinary south africans, there's no tickets or anything to get in. first come, first served. that's going to be a very coveted line to be in tonight waiting till the early hours of tomorrow morning. south african time. of course, there will be many screens around the country for people to be able to follow that memorial service. we don't know how long it's going to last. it's budgeted to last a few hours. it may go on for many, many hours longer than that. i think also so important, you mentioned robin was talking about zelda la grange and her own feelings as white south africans. it imd roos me of that incredible thing he told a journalist, while i was in prison my hatred for the white people decreased but my hatred for the system increases. so he was committed to toppling that system but then of course, why does everybody love him and respect him? because he was abl

. >> reporter: jacob is home. >> he arrived in the united states monday morning. >> reporter: but how the american businessman returned to the u.s. is a mystery. arrested in 2011 in bolivia, managing a rice business and accused of laundering drug money. in may 2012, he his wife said the family was puzzled and dismayed by accusations. >> the worst part is that he's an innocent man. he didn't do anything wrong. and he proved that innocence in the court of law. >> reporter: last december after spending 18 months in prison without being charged and his health failing he was put under house arrest. an interview with cnn and espagnole, he strongly denied the charges. >> the reason this putting in jail because my associate in switzerland is want ford narco trafficking and without the judge seeing evidence. >> reporter: actor sean penn, who took up the cause of his freedom, traveled to bolivia a year ago and met with president morales. >> we're honored and grateful. president morales received juice penn told the associated press he was extracted from the south american country in a humanitari

>> the last time that i saw him was actually at the inauguration of president jacob zuma. it was a passing on of the torch first to m becky, then to jacob zuma, but he was still the moral force that will held that country together and he still is and will continue to be. >> and we are almost out of time. i've got to throw this into you. you knew the mandela days. there's been a lot of disappointment in thao mbeki and jacob zuma on management levels and personality wise. do you think nelson mandela would have been happy with the country he's left behind now? >> no, he would never be happy until the hungry are fed and the naked clothed and the sick are healed. but they start the out with a nation where 85% of the people were discriminated against. they're probably now down to 70% of the people hole still in poverty. but we have in this nation probably 30% of the people are still in poverty. so we've got a long way to go. >> ambassador young, thank you so much for your time. >> fascinating >> other world leaders have been inspired by mandela's ability to fib his enemies. a ma