company playing, you know, small, supporting roles. it was a guy call ben kingsley. and ben and i, we stood looking at this going, "wow. what must it be like? it must be amazing." well, there i was getting to do it myself. and hollywood is-- american movies always had a huge influence on me. i saw them when i was young. and they-- well, my childhood wasn't great. so movies were an escape. as acting for me for a long time became an escape, i didn't have to be patrick stewart anymore. i could be somebody else and lead another life, other than the life that i was leading. and so ton hollywood boulevard, doing t many famouam, i mean, incredibly distinguished and brilliant people. ( applause ). >> stephen: well, i have one-- there is one-- patrick, there is one obvious follow-up question there. has been kingsley gotten it? >> okay, i hope to be discussing this with ben very soon, but no, he has-- no. but -- >> stephen: gotcha! >> but he got a star on the hollywood walk of fame before i did. so we're kind of 50-50. >> stephen: tit for tat, exactly. wonderful to see you, thank you so muc

running itself down. and we get to asbury park, i turn and i come up kingsley avenue, just as "born to run" hits, down past the stone pony, past convention hall, into deal, into west long branch to 7 and a half west end court, just as the intro to "jungle land" hits, i'm parked in front of the house i wrote all the songs for "born to run." that was fun. >> stephen: wow, wow. >> so i think it's fun listening to records all the way through just because they-- there's a greater story-- they're always more than the sum of their parts. and a greater story to tell. i would suggest people listen to this one all the way through, too. you'll have a bigger experience. >> stephen: we have to take one more break, but when we come back, maybe-- maybe bruce will play one of those guitars. you never know. i can't do another four years of this. i can't. there's never been more divisiveness in this country. it's frightening and sad. that was trump's whole thing, you know, take the politics out of it and run it like one of his businesses. i know people were looking for that kind of change, but it's n