not something any campaign has ever run since lbj i guess. it is very, evisceral ad. people remember, people remember that ad being, they can connect to it. i think it is, as you said timing was dead on, the fact they were trying to sort of shift the conversation. >> right. it raises the ultimate question about who do you want, who do you trust, to have their finger on that button, or close to the button even, in the time, god forbid, when we have a serious threat of a nuclear strike against the united states. with that we'll take a quick break. we'll come back and welcome, senator tim kaine. >> this is "the bill press show." >> all right. i'm going to get out of here. >> okay. >> i believe he is in madison, wisconsin, by the way. >> we'll find out for sure. >> oh, sorry. man, mitt romney dressed up as mitt romney probably. >> ah. >> hey jamie? jamie? >> how are you? >> how are you doing, man? >> all right. >> this is igor. >> van knew kirk. -- newkirk. >> have a seat in the chair. we'll get you up. yeah, perfect. >> senator kaine, you want us to? >> yeah. just, liste