, the conservative vision -- mike gallagher, why are you interrupting me? >> it's purely political. we know it. i don't like it more than you do. but ryan and all the guys are saying we better not lose the obama care momentum. democrats will lose on obama care and everybody has campaigned on it. if the government shutdown occurs, everybody -- >> tom. >> republicans will take the blame because of the message. democrats have the -- if there is a government shutdown the gop poll numbers will go down. >> how about with 17 trillion in debt on the way to 25 trillion why can't they cut one cent? it is a disgrace to both parties, but especially republicans. >> i agree with you. >> it's a disgrace. then republicans wonder why they can't get primaries? surprise, surprise. >> we'll go to this side. you hear there is not a dime or difference between the two parties. there is an answer. of you had problems at home and i'm sure alan, my partner -- >> excuse me. who are you? >> i'm sean. nice to meet you. how are you? if we had budget problems at home and i told you that you could cut a penny out of

with reaction, mike lee. welcome back. >> i'm still looking at it. >> a lot of conservatives are angry at the paul ryan bill. what's your reaction? >> i'm still looking at it. as i look at this, although i don't envy paul ryan's position of having to negotiate with democrats in the senate and with the white house, when neither the senate democrats nor the president appears to have any desire to pass a budget i see flaws in the document they come up with. it doesn't necessarily make government more efficient. if anything it makes government more expensive and puts off more spending cuts that need to be made now. >> am i suspecting right you're a no probably? >> i can't support this. i will not be able to vote for this. >> let me talk about sebelius. one thing that amazes me we can't get an answer to a report we broke on this program with peter schweitzer, did the president meet alone with kathleen sebelius. she struggled with that answer. have we been able to confirm if they had any meetings since 2010? not to my knowledge. this is inexcusable that there was this little oversight going

and dale. >> you're going to be the chunk and dale. >> you'll be magic sean. >> oh, like magic mike? thanks a lot >> say it one time real sexy. go, looks like we've got a lot of lawbreakers in here. >> no, no, no. >> come on. >> i can't do it as good as you. >> all right, so the movie. >> the movie. >> tyler perry asked me to be in this movie. i play a great part, buddy. i play the father of the son. i got to be honest with you, it is fun. tiler is a great guy. love his story. he's a great success story. he had a rough childhood. he persevered. and that's a good story. >> grandmother's sloppy joes? >> i like those kinds of story, sean. let me finish my point. the move is basically about keeping christ in christmas and the hope that brings everybody. that is a good movie right there. >> fist pump. good for you. i'm going to go see it. i'll take my kids to it. >> yeah. they'll like it. >> what are you doing for christmas? >> well, good lord. hanging out at the house. >> just hanging out at the ho us? >> i was reading the christmas story to my kids the other day. and you know, i'm read

breast cancer up and never come back. there is a good chance that with the mike lee and the ted cruz of the world we do to the republican party what happened to the wigs. there was no third party. there were 20 republicans. by 1860 they had a president elected. i think that can happen in a faster time because of the internet. the if people stick to their principles and the people of the country remain good and decent to each other. if we believe the things that we are playing "knockout" and fighting over a few extra bucks for a discounted tv. we are doomed. >> aren't there some easy answers? there was a great inventor who said, the obvious which is often unseen until someone expresses it simply. in your book you talk about a lot of people. you delve into history and stuff. thomas edison, et cetera. >> mm-hmm. isn't cutting one penny out of every line item to pay the deficit making sense? isn't lessening our dependence on foreign oil a simple answer? >> i don't think anybody in washington is looking for an answer. there are some, but they are in the minority. in the minority, the grea

to do with this. you have the chairman of the intelligence committee mike rodgers. adam schiff saying, yes, al qaeda was involved in this. by the way, the video has nothing to do with with this. so there is just a mountain of evidence that suggests it was a terrorist attack. in fact, as my counterpart, congressman from south carolina gou di pointed out in a hear in within the state department they believed the traitors of the t t attack. i could go on and on. we only have an hour on the program. the evidence says no. >> speaking of evidence, the 9/11 attack on benghazi wasn't the first time we saw threats or attacks. you go back throughout the year. we had assassination attempts on the british ambassador. multiple threats for ambassador chris stevens which is why they requested more security. then this happened on september 11th. based on what we have seen in the new york times and with the obama administration and the obama campaign in 2012 it seems they are trying to redefine what al qaeda means. it seems they are trying to say unless ordered came from a dead man, osama bin l

, marco, mike lee. >> new leaders in the republican party that gave people something to believe in. finally people say if we elect people to washington are they going to do the what they said they would do? can we believe in the party again? these guys are giving the establishment a run for their money. good for them. >> i'm with jedediah. >> mike lee, marco rubio particularly ted cruz and rand paul are the best thing that barack obama and the democrats have going for them. if it were not for them, the three-point margin on the congressional vote would be ten points now. bottom line, thank you to the democrats. >> i will concede that what you are saying is right. this is the problem. i don't agree with you. i disagree. but i'm conceding it to make a point. if that's true you're telling me the republican party will stand for nothing. >> it duds stand for nothing. >> and if they don't -- >> the winners have been everybody outside of washington. anybody touched by washington was hurt. the winners are governors like chris christie, scott walker. they run the gamut and have a reform pla

give a straight answer during today's brutal obama care hearing. utah senator mike lee is here. we have been getting your feedback. video of the day. option one was the sign language imposter at nelson mandela's memorial service yesterday. our friends at imus in the morning had fun with it. >> look. it's nonsense. >> every word is the same sign? >> that's a repetitive speech. they were hammering home the point. >> it was nonsense. >> look. >> that's the sign for stealing third. >>> welcome back. kathleen sebelius was back on capitol hill trying to defend obama care. she struggled to answer simple questions. for example like this one. >> knowing what you know te'o would have started the launch october 1? >> i would have probably done a smaller launch with uh fewer people and done additional beta testing which is part of what has happened frankly in the early months of the launch to identify the robs we had. >> oh, a simple yes would have sufficed. but thas not all. after the so-called website fix her math is fuzzy when it comes to the number of people enrolled. >> when amazon.com re