telling me that he's going to be killed by the russian government and i helped facilitate his escape from moscow to los angeles, and then over the next few months, i learned the full size and scope. >> rose: once he was in los angeles, he was free to tell you. >> yes, and that's when i learned the size and scope of this spectacular conspiracy to cheat the olympics that had been placed for essentially all of modern sport, but specifically what they did at the soichi games, which was an unimaginable fraud. >> rose: and the accusation against the president of russia? >> well, when you look at how russian sport is set up, right, unlike the u.s. where it's all private, in russia it's actually controlled by the ministry, and all russian athletes -- >> rose: the sports ministry? yes, the sports ministry in russia. so all russian athletes across all sports are essentially being paid by the russian government. so everything under russia is under the country umbrella and gregory is running the anti-doping lab which is really the anti-anti-doping lab, and the guy who is his boss, his russian ministry, vita