rollins. host: where does our windows "devil in a blue dress" take place? guest: 1948 in los angeles, which is, you know it's an amazing event for change. los angeles back then was populated 240,000, maybe 300,000. hundred thousand people a year move into los angeles or southern california from then until now and then part of that was all these black people from southern texas and louisiana and if so what you see is this amazing amount of change, more than any place else in the country. of the city's building, the idea is building: the culture's building and the relation between the races are building. and was a wonderful time host: easy rawlins, a world war ii veteran, wet story are you trying to tell by making it easy rawlins a world war ii veteran? guest: i think world war ii with this amazing change for black people in america, i mean, it was for everyone, but for black people it's different. my father is from southern texas louisiana one might father's story was he left to go to the world

rollins -- e.z. rollins comes into the library to get some help are -- help from the librarian, and she's reading catcher in the rye, and she has a scowl on her face. he asks her do you like the book, and she says, well, i do, but i can't imagine some black kid or latino kid reading this book, how are they supposed to relate? >> guest: it's true. >> host: whining about his life. >> guest: oh, yeah, i didn't like my car. man, if i had his money, i'd be happy. why he kills himself, i don't understand why anybody would kill themself if they've got all this t money. they've gotey a nice big house and, you know, and that's a notion. a but, you know, i mean, i think that i don't have any limit on what you should read because what you like and what you don't like, who knows what it is. you know? it's not defined by your gerund, by your race -- by your gender, by your race, by your class. you might just love reading charles dickens or the idiot. okay, fine. but you should read what you love thehe, you know -

i want to add to our great governor, secretary perry, i'm brook rollins and i'll be joining jared and a office of american innovation and eye can to at the white house in two weeks time. >> the governor told a great story of texas and not to correct you but we're at eight prisons closed in texas. but more importantly than that the crime rate in texas is down 30% since we have done that. texas' population has doubled. exploded. because of our great job growth, thanks to a great lead leader, but as far as the prison reform symptoms we have closed down eight prisons and completely changed licensing laws and probation laws. secretary acosta in miami you introduced the first veterans court in the country. we are a country of second chances and we are country of redemption, but we're also a country about public safety and that's the beautiful thing about what we're trying to do and have done in the states but now at the federal level wore working to, this will help decrease the crime rate and keep our community safer. that's an important point. thank you all for having me here. >> well said

rollins. >> kind of what you do. >> i'm looking for somebody. >> she been gone two weeks. see, that man has a predilection for the company of negroes. >> he thought he knew how to play the game. >> any of y'all seen a white girl by the name of dahlia, something like that? >> my name is daphne. you can't get none of that tonight. >> until he stepped into a world -- >> why don't you tell me about your friend. >> -- where there are no rules. >> why you arresting me? >> what is going on? >> she's not going to be waking up, ezekiel. >> he's looking for a woman no one wants found. >> was there anyone with you, a young lady named daphne monet, perhaps? >> the chief of police, close personal frend of mine. -- friend of mine. >> and getting in deeper than he ever expected. >> this is daphne monet. you're looking for me. i don't know if i should think of you as a friend or as a private dick. >> surrounded by lies. >> you can trust me, mr. rollins. i am an ex-mayor and, luckily for you, a friend of the n

this is easy rollins with the white principle of the school he works that? he is explaining to her about the right and you write this. if you come from down in houston or harlem every so you come upon has been threatened and beaten and jailed. if you have kids they will be beaten. .. that's exactly the anger. i was writing about the right and remembered them quite well. i was in los angeles, the original and 65. i remember it so well and remember the experience, and it's so funny because so many other people just didn't understand because they didn't understand what was going on in those peoples lives. they said why are you writing? everything is fine. i can with everything at that moment was not fine. that's not enough reason to riot. riot. but nothing had ever been fun. people have been lynched, burned, enslaved, beaten and killed. people were excluded from all kinds of jobs and all kinds of institutions and all kinds of spaces. my father used to tell me when he was in fifth award and fats would come to houston the first five nights it was only for white a

sonny rollins, they're not around anymore. so i don't know whose band to join. i just keep typing novels. >> well, speaking of that, what are you working on now? >> i just finished a novel about an old deacon in brooklyn who pulls out his heater and shoots the worst drug dealer in the projects. takes flays 1969. >> in hard him. >> in brooklyn. another comedy. supposed to be funny. >> other guy who -- sounds hilarious. [laughter] >> i'm cramming -- cracking up already. that's the opening scene, an old guy kills a drug dealer in brooklyn, 1969. >> covers all new york, mayor lindsey. about the neighborhood. when brooklyn was brooklyn. brooklyn is now it's different. >> you're still there. >> i love it. still in my -- my mother's church still existed. run a small music program for kids in the projects. still love it but it's not the same as it was. everything changes. but this book is about brooklyn as i remember it and when it was -- it was just fun and inexpensive and people of different races and ethnicities got along because they had to get along. >> you turned

so i did it for jim rollins and steve berry. we all did it never once in a while someone will pop up on facebook and twitter and i'll say i will see that steve berry. fans who love the genre to see my character or other writers in one of my books. "in depth" one of your skills at one time was bringing brad meltzer's book. >> guest: i love brad meltzer's. if you ever get a chance to interview him come you some of the smartest and nicest guys. of the people i've met in my industry along with jim rollins and steve berry in so many others, david maran, one of the reasons i wanted to become an author. so many good people and that the homeland security when i was on the rental unit. >> host: we'll talk about that in two seconds. brad meltzer will be on our in-depth edition in december. if you go to booktv.org, we've interviewed brad meltzer several times so you can find that online a booktv.org. what was the red unit? >> guest: in the aftermath we talked about 9/11 a little bit here before the commission report ever came out, the fede

i did it for jim rollins and steve barry and we all did it and every once in a while they will pop up on facebook or twitter. it's kind of a strike for fans neat love the genre. i think one of your seals at one time was reading brad meltzer. i love brad meltzer. >> he is one of the smartest in one of the nicest guys of the people i have met in my industry along with jim rollins and steve barry. i love david morales books. he's at the top of the list. also at the department of homeland security. will talk about that in two seconds. brad will be on our special fiction in-depth addition in december. and if you go to book tv.org it we had interviewed him several times so you can find that online had book tv .-dot work. what was the red union. >> we talked about 911 -- september 11. the federal government realized that what have happened on september 11 was largely due to a failure of imagination on our part. one of the criticisms is that they were always fighting in their rearview mirror. they have not been creative enough. when the department of homeland security was stood up. they enact

sonny rollins,he they're not around anymore. so i don't know who to join. so i'll just keep typing away at my novels i guess. >> will come as beacon of that, what are you working on now? >> i just finished a novel abouo an old deakin imprisonment pulls -- takes place in 1969. in brooklyn. >> it's another comedy. it's supposed to be funny. >> it sounds hilarious. [laughter] cracking upra already. [laughter] that's the opening scene. 1969. >> it covers all of new york. it's really about the neighborhood when brooklyn was her plan. brooklyn is different. >> you're still-- there. >> i love it. my mother's church still exists. i run a small music program they are with kids from the projects there every weekend. i still love it, but it's not the same as it was. everything changes.ok but this book is about brooklyn as i remember it. delicious fun and inexpensive and people of different races and ethnicities got along because they had to get along. >> he turned again? >> i just turned it in. i'm waiting for the other back from the publisher. >> this will come out n

i did it for jim rollins come every once in a while someone would pop up. and i would say no, i would see that. it's kind of any strike for fans who love that genre. >> i think one of your seals at one time was reading brad. >> i love that if you ever get a chance to interview him of the people i have met in my industry he's one of the reasons of becoming an author will talk about that in two seconds. >> host: brad will be on our special fiction and death edition in december. you can find that online booktv.org what was -- >> guest: in the aftermath we talked about 9/11. before the 9/11 commission report came out the federal government realize what happened was largely due to a failure of imagination on our part. one of the criticisms is they are always fighting in the rearview mirror expecting the last i told look like the last. the idea was that let's not just all sit around the washington beltway must bring in some creative figures. people who do not think like us at all. but have interesting lines. brad, me, michael who did the transformer movies they b

guysful of the people i have met in my industry, along with jim rollins and steve berry and so many others. david morell, so meltzer is at the department of list and was at the department of homeland security when i was, work on then analytic red cell unit. >> host: if you to booktv.org, we have interviewed brad melt meltzer several times and you can fine that online at booktv.org. what was the red unit. >> guest: we talked but 9/11 a little bit. before the 9/11 commission report ever came out the federal government realized that what happened on september 11th was largely due to a failure of imagination on our part, on the government's part. one of the criticism is they were always fighting in the rearview mirror, expect thing next fight to look like the last fight and hadn't been creative enough. when the department of homeland secure was stood up, they enacted a program called the analytic red cell unit, and the idea was let's not just sit around the washington beltway talk us about the next attack. let's tabling some create -- bring in some create thinkers, with interesting mind so bra