created the various staples and the companies versus president obama investing our taxpayer dollars in solyndra. that is a clear contrast and what we want did lock at rather than an assessment of the who today and it is more pent as to what it will be tomorrow. look the at contrast on energy policies. president obama considered all of the coal and petroleum and oil and gas as a liability and wants to replace it with wind and solar. i think mitt romney looks at those as a major asset and it will be a major asset to we harness those things. thing of all those we would put to work mining and developing the resources and the keystone pipeline. that is the issue. the debate of status of the economy, that is just not in the ballgame as far as i'm concerned. it is would will do the investing of our tax dollars the best in the next four to eight years. >>neil: foster, a lot of made in this limited time, about all money each campaign has and the respect against mitt romney is during the convention he managed to get outspent by president obama 6-1. obviously the romney campaign felt that airing the ads c

do not forget -- you put $90 billion into solar and wind solyndra and tesla. as my friend would say -- you know how to pick the losers. this is not the kind of policy you want to have to get american energy secure. you said you get a deduction for taking plant overseas. i have been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you are talking about. the idea you get a break for shipping jobs overseas is not the case. i would like to take the medicaid dollars to go to state and tell them they will get what they got last year plus inflation plus 1%. you will manage to care for the poor in the way you think best. as a governor, when this idea was floated by tommy thompson, the governors said, "please, let us do that. we can care for our own poor in more effective ways than having the federal government tell us how to care for our poor." one of the magnificent things about this country is the idea that states are the laboratories of democracy. do not let the government telling states what kind of training and medicare they have to have. if the state gets in troubl

solyndra. this is not basic research. i want to invest in research. research is great. providing funding to universities and think tanks, great, but investing in companies, absolutely not. i am still speaking. i want to assure we make america more competitive and that we do those things to make america the most attractive place in the world for entrepreneurs, innovators, businesses to grow. but investing in companies makes it less likely for government -- countries to come here. >> i think anybody out there can check the records. governor, you keep trying to airbrush history. you were very clear that you would not provide government assistance to the u.s. auto companies, even if they went through bankruptcy. he said they could get it in the private marketplace. that was not true. >> you are wrong. >> no, i am not wrong. it is true that in order for us to be competitive, we will have to make some smart tresses. cutting our education budget, that is not a smart choice. that will not help us compete with china. cutting our investment in research and technology, that is not

solyndra got $534 million of your money and they went bankrupt. who owns solyndra? 20 of the richest men in the world. a billionaire got a $500 million loan from you. do you think he is really sincere that is going after the 1% when he is taking your money? do you know who approved the solyndra loans? he is married to the solyndra attorney. solyndra's attorney that negotiated the loan is married to someone in the department of energy that helped approve a loan. does anyone remember the kennedy family? they got $1.8 billion. i am guessing there in the 1%. it is for a company called bright source. i do not do high finance. the gross revenue is $30 million. they got a $1.8 billion loan. there is a slow cycle right now of going bankrupt. we had for five other companies going bankrupt. the president thinks he is smarter than all of you. every time you go out you decide the prices. he said i'm going to make a whole industry of this something that is not profitable. i'm going to do by reporting rich people with loans. -- by rewarding rich people with loans. he should not l

it was filled with hundreds of millions of dollars of corporate cronyism that went to companies like solyndra. all of that money came from somewhere. it came out of the pockets of taxpayers or it increased our debt to china. that is where the money came from. as president obama said, there were not as many shovel ready jobs as he thought. >> pay down the debt and the deficits and create a growing economy. that is what we are focused on. we are focused on small business. that means cutting their taxes and streamlining taxes. make sure the have the loans that they need. we want to see made in america. rebuilding our infrastructure. build towns, roads, and water systems across our state. we need to refocus on building new roads and projects. i can tell you, we have tough choices to make. we can tighten our belt. we can cut spending. we have to do it precisely and carefully. we cannot have a "slash only" approach. >> can you suggest something that you would cut? she talks about cutting taxes and getting small businesses of the loans they need, but she has not done any of these things. what we nee

more and more information comes out -- this is the solyndra program. money was spent on 26 programs. 22 programs had junk status. it was ok to give them your tax dollars. host: you can see that on our website in its entirety. is the obama's stance on coal liability? guest: no one has paid a higher price than the people of ohio. cleveland has some of the worst air in the country. this is directly related to the coal that is being burned for electricity. a lot of people are turning to natural gas to make electricity instead of coal. has gone from being about half of our electricity to about 35%. host: this is a recent piece from the huffington post. it looks that states like west virginia. democrats need to have a different message at the presidential level. guest: senator rockefeller was talking about coal and said the coal industry needs to start telling the truth. we're seeing curriculum's exploding in west virginia. wind turbines are going up. that's where the future is. host: let's take a look at an ad that is airing this month, all about coal and t

not someone that will make bets on failed solar companies like solyndra. we want someone that will create jobs. mitt romney shown that he has the ability to create jobs. the many of the retailers that you currently buy whether it's staples or other companies, he created. i think he has a record of creating jobs, he has a record of reviving institutions that were falling such as the salt lake city olympics. we have a great opportunity here. we need to create jobs. we need to grow in economy. guest: the only thingly take issue with, guy said romney has been very successful in his life and he has accomplished a great deal. part of the question we have in this question, what is success. i think again, the problem with mitt romney's record is he has gone in, taken over companies, laid off workers increased his bottom line but hurt the communities. again, this is the choice that voters have in all of these house races as well. are ewith going to send people to congress, help these big corporations and provide more tax breaks to millionaires or focus on the middl

solyndra and he spent an enormous amount of money on so called green projects and they haven't produced anything. thank goodness, the oil and gas industry and the coal industry and private sector are the ones creating jobs. the president himself said when he was first elected that he's going to be judged in four years on his economic performance. that's really all that we're doing. host: chris martin on twitter wants to add this. mr.donatelli what is the performance between president obama economic stimulus between president bush? guest: the bush economic stimulus weren't well either. if you talk about his it stimulus late in his presidency in 2007 and 2008. that didn't work well either. what did work very well are the bush tax cuts in 2001 and 2003. which took a shaky economy because of 9/11 and the wars we were getting into and really stabilized it. that's an example, i think, supply side tax cuts are an example if you want to use the word stimulus, that can grow an economy because is incentivize the private sector. the problem with stimulus tends to be we wind up spending more money

you put $90 billion, 50 years worth into solar and wind to solyndra and tesla. i had a friend could set you don't just pick winners and losers. you pick the losers. charles: that is the same -- when he says he knows i am right he gives me the same look and more to it. >> you will see this come back up. he talked about ninety billion -- democrats talk about $2.8 billion in subsidies and put in $90 billion to help fledgling green energy companies get going and you get $150 million in the scheme of things. million here or a million there. $150 million search that. >> the government should not pick winners and losers. this is an absolute absurdity and companies trying to defend -- the reason they haven't saying they have been conducting preproduction test runs over the last couple years. we need to let private enterprise and private investors work these things out and if the market conditions render a company like this to survive and thrive then it will on its own but the government should not be involved. charles: to your point when the private sector is involved t

don't forget, you put 90 billion dollars, like 50 year's worth of breaks, into solar and wind, to -- solyndra and fisker and tesla. i have a friend you don't just pick the winners and losers, you pick the losers. stuart: we've not seen that kind of attack from mitt romney before. but from the president what we got was more of the same. >> what when i walked into the oval office i had more than a trillion dollar deficit greeting me and we know where it came from, two wars that were paid for on a credit card. two tax cuts that were not paid for. stuart: all right, i'm making the judgment that romney won. it's not just me, however, the perception that romney won this debate is widespread. even among the liberal media. headline from "the washington post" "rejuvenated romney hammers obama on his economic record" the los angeles times "a lackluster obama, a revived romney". unabashed obama supporter chris mathews was even disappointed with his guy. >> where was obama tonight? i don't know what he was doing out there. he had his head down, he was enduring the debate rather than fighting it. james ca

talking over each other] >> the debt is just a number but is tte government's spending money well for solyndra etc.? that is something specific you can hang your hat on? >> and they are wasting. stuart: i you satisfied with the way republicans and romney and ryan are going at this? are they hard enough? >> when they speak they are clear about where they want to go. seen through cbs's explanation is a little fuzzy. that is why romney did better and ryan did better when they had a debate. they were able to talk to the american people. stuart: the republicans -- yoo are fighting the establishment media because the message has to be filtered through the establishment media and it doesn't go through that filter. dave: to your point romney could do more to focus on those stakes, awful spending -- romney is not going there. [talking over each other] >> should have flown to chicago during the teachers' strike. the democratic party cannot stand up to organized labor. and the teachers' union is not the same as education. there are ways to dramatize it but he is busy winning. his advisers -- with the one

what happens is solyndra, fisker karma, and, you know what? the cost per job -- from that stimulus bill in the green energy program, $6.7 million. it cost $18 million just for the internet on so that people in america that trappist amounts on. you might want to change her major to computer science if you can get a contract like that to build a website. >> moderator: senator gill, what would you do about federal regulation of the internet. this is also one of the postern questions you and i would agree with mr. davis. as limited as possible. let's move onto another question davis: hang onto my have 30 seconds. working through the bureaucratic red tape of washington, part of my job is to check the stimulus coming on the 18 million-dollar website. one day i went there and saw how much money i spent -- how much money the obama administration spent. it's a $531 million. that stimulus bill didn't work at all. that was a complete failure and waste of money that we are still paying interest on. >> moderator: we call the time. our next question. >> mod

i don't see any problem cutting wasteful spending like solyndra. it will force congress to set priorities just like all of us do around the family dinner stable. so that congress stops spending money we don't have and get back to a plan budget. there's nothing radical at all about that. and my preying on people's fears, i know what it feels like. i know, what it feels like to be afraid and depend. i think that's wrong. >> moderator: a response martin? heinrich: i think that if you want to look, there are plenty of places question make cuts in our programs, and one place i'm not going make cuts is social security and medicare. social security has been critical to many of our families, and my family too, my participants are reliant on the program despite the fact they saved and invested. but i'm not going balance the budget on the back was senior citizens. i adopt think that's right. if we take a balanced approach with whether it's the kind of approach that came up with or any other the groups, they say the same thing. you have to work with both side

i think it would force congress to set priorities and stop funding things like solyndra and prioritize things like social security, medicare, and education, and that is why i support a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. >> the race to succeed retiring new mexico senator is just one of the key house, said, and governors races you can follow on c-span, c-span radio, and at c-span.org / campaign 2012. >> more now from the reason for a moscow conference on the balance between government secrecy, transparency, and public access to information. these next panelists analyze the implications of various national security leaks, including military wikileaks. this portion of the conference included remarks from various national security reporters and law professors. the center on national security hostess event. this portion is about an hour and 30 minutes. >> welcome to the afternoon session. this battle promises to be every bit as electric as the earlier one in a way that i think he might not imagine. i want to welcome the moderator, david mccrory, who is new to the center and has n

he spent billions of taxpayer dollars on investments like solyndra and tesla and fisker and enter one which only added to our debt. energy prices are up in part because energy production on federal land is down. he rejected the keystone pipeline from canada and cut in half drilling permits and lisa can even as gasoline prices soared to new highs. the problem with the obama economy is not what he inherited, it's with the misguided policies that slowed the recovery and cost millions of americans to undo her lengthy unemployment and poverty. [applause] that's why 15 million more of our fellow citizens are on food stamps than when president obama took office. that's why 3 million more women are now living in poverty. that's why nearly one in six americans today is poor. that's why the, the economy is stagnant. today we received by the way the latest round of discouraging economic news. last corner our economy grew just 2%. after the stimulus was passed the white house promised the economy would now be growing at 4.3%, over twice as fast. slow economic growth means slow job growth and decl

solyndra is only one of about four similar situations of disastrous economic decisions that have cost now maybe approaching a trillion dollars. and nobody is figure how to store the power that comes from wind or from solar. nor is there anything on draughting board that makes it feasible in the next ten to fifteen years. if you can't store the power from wind and solar. it's basically useless, when it wind doesn't blow, my city blacks out. when the sun is down, which is like the nighttime -- [laughter] i freeze. can it help a little? could we go from 2% over the next ten years to 5 or 6 or 7 percent? wind and solar, yeah? is it cost effective. probably not. could we do it because it makes people who treat it as a religion rather than a common sense enterprise happy. yeah, we could do that. this is what the obama administration emergency policy is. it's wind and solar. more drilling, the only drilling that occurred on private land, they go through torture to get permits to expand they pay big fees to my law firm. i shouldn't complain about that. they go through torture to get the permi

energy, the obama mccaskill, the funding of solyndra, the epa given the power to shut downtown coal industry, and stopping drilling in the keystone pipeline and gasoline prices have doubled. health care it's even worse. 71% of us and missouri voted against the government take over of health care and clare voted to pass it a reason for the record of failure. that's because and obama and mccans mccaskill have a deep and apieding faith that big government is a slowings to every problem. that's why they couldn't fulfill the record. clare is going to washington, d.c., and brought us red tape and taxes and all kinds of bureaucracy, and executive orders. and she doesn't understand that these big governments solutions choke out freedom. now what i would suggest is that you could bring me to washington, d.c., in the senate so that we could take the missouri common sense back to washington, d.c., and not a model bureaucracy. cut down the taxes and the red tape in the bureaucracy and build the american dream and american family once again to be strong and restore a bright hope for all our future. thank

guest: absolutely, exemplified by a company called the solyndra. they received a loan and then filed for bankruptcy, which is not unusual when you talk about new developing technologies. it is a challenge for solar, particularly because i.t. is very expensive, if you don't have the government grants and support like they have in europe to encourage people to put those on their homes, you will not get the volume necessary to bring down the costs and make the tens of thousands of dollars of investment -- takes a long time to pay that off and will be hard for our consumer business to do that. host: these are the some sectors of manufacturing. first is new orders of machinery. what kinds of machinery are talking about? -- are we talking about? guest: anything from bulldozers to machines that make the semiconductors. it is a wide range of machinery. it is a big part of the classification manual for products. things like materials handling equipment, conveyors, stacking machinery, those types of things. host: when we look at this, it is getting to recess

. >> $800 billion of stimulus failed pre all you have to look at is solyndra. he wanted to invest taxpayer money into a company that failed. they may have had great bathrooms and a fantastic headquarters, but they did not create any jobs. i would put my interests with their romney because he has a history of creating strong job growth both in massachusetts, helping out the olympics, and in the private sector creating many companies across the country that have created jobs. >> next caller, a democrat. caller: i have a question for mr. harrison. he said the congress the first two years of obama didn't do anything. they pass the health care bill, they stop the economy from going down and also we all came in in 2010, that is when the trouble started. if you look at jobs, in the medical field, the jobs are picking up like mad in the medical field. are a whole lot of jobs in the medical field. you are saying there are going to be a bunch of jobs being lost but right now, this economy, every person i ask is in the medical field. how many people want to get a salary f

i think it would force congress to set priorities and stop funding things like solyndra and prioritize things like social security, medicare, and education, and that's why i support a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. >> the race to succeed retiring new mexico senator jeff bingeman is one of the key house races you can follow on c-span. >> fordham law school in new york city, held a conference. in this panel, national security reporters and law professors analyze national security leaks, including military drone strikes, enhanced interrogation programs and wick key -- wikileaks. this is an hour and 30 minutes. >> welcome to this session. this panel promises to be every bit as electric as the earlier one, in a way you might not imagine. i want to welcome the moderator, david mccraw, new to the center and has never been here in before. he has one of the most unknown and important jobs you can imagine. and i'm not sure how to describe it. he probably won't. but he is the assistant general counsel for the new york times and vice president there. so his job is to tell them, in

these are -- the government investing in companies, investing in solyndra. this is a company -- this isn't basic research. i want to invest in research. research is great. providing funding to universities and think tanks, great. but investing in companies? absolutely not. obama: governor, the fact of the matter -- romney: i'm speaking. [laughter] i want to make sure we make america more competitive. obama: yeah. romney: and we make america the most attractive place in the world for entrepreneurs, innovators. but your investing in companies doesn't do that, in fact, it makes it less likely for them to come here -- obama: governor, i'm happy to respond to you. you've held the floor for a while. the -- look, i think anybody out there can check the record. governor romney, you keep on trying to, you know, air brush history here. you were very clear that you would not provide government assistance to the u.s. auto companies even if they went through bankruptcy. you said they could get it in the private marketplace. that wasn't true. they would have gone through

what i don't buy are things that give solyndra things of that order. the problem is when you expand the government from 20 it comes from my background in the development. when you expand from a 20% take to a 25% take, you have to consider what that does in terms of drawing the influence of lobbying as corruption like we just had a case today with the army corps of engineers. the more money the more you are encouraging this behavior. one of the things you worry about somebody cares about transparency is the more money that's there the more you attract the rent seeking behavior which is the worst form of an entrepreneurial the sum, so when you say i want to encourage the sort of programs, i would rather encourage the policies that encourage investment and allow the market to dictate where that investment should go rather than try to put somebody in the business of saying winners and losers. >> so the u.s. chamber of commerce were losing a trillion dollars in growth in america and untold billions in exports because of transportation system is so out of da

scott mcgrew, romney lumping tesla with solyndra. >> well, they're both green energy companies, both took department of energy loans and both are from a state where romney is going to lose anyway so the jab probably didn't cost the governor anything. tesla clarified some of the recent financial statements saying not only is tesla very healthy, it would be cash positive by next month. in fact it may pay off the department of energy loan early. tesla has always made its doe payments on time and never asked for a delay repayment ever. i don't know how to state this more clearly. >>> meanwhile hewlett-packard's ceo meg whitman says her company will take much longer to turn around than she first thought and make a lot less money than investors had hoped. that and concern over europe are hanging over wall street. jackie is live at cnbc headquarters with more. good morning, jackie. >> reporter: good morning to you, scott. well, the futures are modestly higher and this is after we eked out small gains yesterday. investors were first cheered on by data on private sector job growth but that wa

i think it could force congress to spend priorities and stop funding things like solyndra and prioritize things like social security, medicare and education. that's why i support a balanced budget enemy to the constitution. >> the race to succeed retiring new mexico senator jeff bingaman is just one of the key how senate and governor's races you can follow on c-span. c-span radio, and at cspan.org/campaign2012. >> fordham law school in new york city held a daylong conference focusing on the balance between government secrecy, transparency and public access to information. national security reporters and law professors analyze national security leaks, including military drone strikes, enhanced interrogation programs, and wikileaks. this event hosted by the center of national security is an hour 30 minutes. >> [inaudible] >> this panel promises to be every bit as electric as the earlier ones, and i think you might not imagine. i want to welcome the moderator, david mccraw, it was new to the center. he has never been to before and i hope this is the first of many such events as. he has one

another solyndra here? >> it's very, very possible. the president announced this, came through myometown, lland, michig, did a victory lap in the community saying look what the federal government did for you, create k this investment, creating jobs, and insulted their hometown congressman for not voting for the package, and three and a lf years later, and it looks like it's a bad investment. all of us that live in the community are disappointed. you know, the problem here is the president wasn't spending the govnment's money. thepresident was spending our money. this money all went on our credit card, like for the losses that are incurred. gerri: nick, to you. the mayor in holland said he had to do this, no other options. you agree with that? >> no, he could ha not spent the money. the reality is this administration with a lot of the stimulus funding has taken field of dreams, if they build it, they will come, but there's a lack of consumer demand for electric vehic which is why the's zero supply. if there was a demand, this wouldn't b

a123 systems, solyndra, beacon power,nd abound solar. people out there make the point that the government got involved at just the wrong time, and if they got involved earlier or later, the fortunes of the company would have turned around. what do you say to that? >> that's always the excuse. we've seen cycles like this before. the electric car mandate in california, the exact same promises from california politicians th they were going to buildhe next generation ttery technology plants in california, the next great california renaissance in the 1990s, billing batteries forhe electric ca politicians mandated on the road. years later, all in ruins, gm destroyed all electric cars, and ten years pass, and we forgot the whole things. gerri: talking electric cars since the 20s. will it take off? >> doesn't look like it. robert bryce says electric cars are et great thing and always will be. they chased it since the early 1900s. batteries are not dense enough in how much energy they store to compete with an engine powered by gasoline. that's am

solyndra is already back in bankruptcy. here's the president back in april of 2010. >> one of the 48 companies to win recovery act grant for advanced battery technology. that grant helped a123 hire 44 new workers supporting the crix -- construction of three new plants in michigan that a123 expects to hire more than 120 workers by the end of this year, and thousand by next year, and more than 3,000 by the end of 2012. today's news is another sign we're on the right track. gerri: promises, promises all broken. whether it's 90 billion for green energy or $604 billion to the financial sector, blanketing this country with taxpayer dollars is not lifted off economy or improved the fortunes of the middle class. 23 million are under employee r odd unemployed. the portion of americans on food stamps hit a new high. three and a half years after the recession was supposed to be over, throwing money at a problem doesn't solve it. what we are missing is leadership. when we come back, they were a big voting block for obama in 2008, but n

gerri: hate to bring of solyndra but let's bring up solyndra. this is a company that spent $500 billion of taxpayer dollars and want to file bankruptcy petition that will allow executives to save their and taxpayer money. is anybody going to stop this nonsense out there? >> even the irs has known this is a bad deal for american taxpayers. they file that objection yesterday against the bankruptcy plan, the solyndra file because we have one of the close investors, one of the close friends of president obama who set up a shell corporation through solyndra to take advantage of tax credits received through net operating losses so once again the issue of crony capitalism rears its ugly head. gerri: over and over again. thank you for coming on tonight and illuminating this topic. we appreciate it. we will be right back. w do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to hel

in fact, they lived up to despite all the solyndra demagoguery that's come from paul ryan and mitt romney they lived up to an incredibly high standard in terms of the efficiency and prudence of spending that much money in that period of time. it was in some ways a great testament to effective bureaucratic deployment. it was a great testament to government doing what it should do. and that story has remained woefully untold. >> we went through this process with the democrats on obama care which involved them embracing the term obama care which is when they had been running away from their achievement in health reform because they didn't like the way republicans talked about it then democrats, something click, a few braves one first, then all of them started running on it saying we see this as a great political asset. are we due for that with the stimulus, too? >> i would like to say yes. i think the stimulus, when the recovery happens, and if the recovery happens under a barack obama administration in the second term, retroactively, the stimulus will take on this very haloed view. people w

you had solyndra, major investor in solyndra, major obama donor and with a 123, you had the ceo david vino a major obama donor. a board member of a 123 was actually invited to sit on the white house advisory board. >> bill: that's not good, colmes, that crony stuff. i have got to run on another topic it's not good. >> you can't call it socialism though because we give all these breaks to oil companies to the tune of $110 billion over 10 years. >> bill: i don't like -- you are preaching to the choir here. libya, it's a mess. we have hunt coming up behind you guys. and he is furious. state department says they were listening in on the attacks. so, if i'm mitt romney, i look at the president and i say with all due respect, i need -- and in answer to this question who told you u.n. ambassador mislead the american public? legitimate question? >> yes. i would turn to romney and say why did you jump to conclusions and say we were supporting the people who were attacking us. >> bill: evade the question and attack romney for asking it. >> i would turn around. >> bill: you evade it and not answ

it ain't solyndra. first up, the obama campaign still shell shocked after wednesday wednesday''s debate. take a look at these recent and stunning admissions from vice president joe biden. >> up knyou know that phrase yo always use, "obama and biden want to raise taxes by $8 trillion." guess what? yes, we do in one regard. >> how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class has been buried the last four years. >> we want to bring on a special guest reince priebus. there's biden with a trillion dollar tax cut. the wonderful thing, there's the second one also, he said the middle class has got i don't know buried. they have gotten buried in the past four years. who's responsible for that? >> yeah, right. you know, it's amazing, these guys act like they must be living in an alternative universe. they forget the fact and i think president obama had this epiphany as well on stage wednesday night, they forget the fact that guess what, guy, president obama and joe biden, you guys have been in charge for th

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another administration favorite follows solyndra into bankruptcy and takes millions in taxpayer money with it. >> welcome "the journal editorial report." the presidential candidates met for their second debate this week with a more spirited president obama trading jabs with republican rival mitt romney on everything from immigration to taxes. national polls show the race still very much a toss-up, and swing state surveys continue to tighten. we welcome in our panel this week. so kim, i talked to a lot of democrats this week who were elated by the president's performance. they say that the king is back. he's really rocking now. [laughter] momentum the big mo's with him. what do you think about that? are they right? >> well, i mean, the president certainly made his base thrilled with his performance at the debate. that was one of the things he needed to do. look, there's too many questions coming at the president's campaign. he needed to settle and calm those fears. yes, he succeeded at. what he did not arguably do at the debate is in any stem the damage that mitt romney inflicted in th

>> eric: celebrities can come out against fracking and for solar, whatever, solyndra and then the prices go up. then they go it doesn't matter. i can afford it. meanwhile, the rest of california is struggling, choking. $5 for a gallon. >> eric: do you think bam -- >> bob: do you think obama administration wants $5 a gallon? >> greg: yes. they said so. >> bob: chu said that. not president. he said he would like to see that it high? >> kimberly: hope we learn a lesson from this, crisis in california to see where we are headed with the extreme ideas over the energy policy. instead of energy independenc independence. >> dana: they passed a climate change bill going in effect this fall they will start paying. who do you think has to pay for that? customers. >> eric: one blend, one grain of gasoline nationally, prices will drop substantially. coming up -- [ overtalking ] >> eric: ready for this feel good story? fists fly in philly between guest of wedding parties. one is dead and others are arrested. bob is up on "the five." ♪ ♪ i've worked hard to build my family. and also to build my car

. >> dana: the $1 billion, he might mess stuff up like solyndra, maybe, the return on investment. if i were romney i would have gone to cmt, country music television and done an interrue there. that actually would have -- talk about enthusiasm. sometimes he is there. >> dana: you stand outside there -- >> greg: with the binoculars in a tree. >> dana: how do you know that. >> eric: telling me we have great news. harry reid is in stable condition, still in hospital but in stable condition. he will be okay. leave it there. coming up, stunning new development on the deadly attack on consulate in lib yeah. fox news obtained exclusive information that everyone should hear about. we'll bring it to you next on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis sympto. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day