and pathetic, which they are as politicians. >> i don't know, some of this seems thelma and luiz. would you answer this question, they keep saying cruz kasich. how do we know it's not kasich cruz? who is on top of the fight? who is the leader and who is the follower? >> i think it's interesting to see which way that should go because there were certainly times earlier in the election season when the kasich team wanted to have this kind of an arrangement where they could direct their energies in different ways to better go after trump and prevent him than to battle each other but as sources have been telling me, it was the cruz team reaching out to kasich over the weekend. if we only look waback over the last couple days, cruz was the moe motivator because he reached that point looking at the numbers and time left and see they cannot get to the 1237 on their own for a long time they believed they could and that's when kasich was trying to get this deal to go along. so i think as we sit right now, it is a cruz kasich deal motivated more from the cruz side but there is benefit to bo