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>> welcome to al jazeera. i'm morgan radford. here are the headlines. authorities say they have still found no motive for the shooting at the washington navy yard but all indications that aaron alexis acted alone. officials have begun to notify the families of those involved in the shooting. the united nations says it has found clear and convincing evidence that chemical weapons from fact used in syria. u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon did not place any blame on deadly attack in damascus.
congress is considering a bill to slash food stamp subsi subsidies. right now one in seven americans use food stamps and the cost of the program has doubled in the last five years. costa concordia is now up right. it took 19 hours to complete. the massive ship capsized when it hit off the west coast of italy last year. 32 people were killed. i'm morgan radford. thank you for joining us. those are the headlines. >> an america tonight special report. the d.c. naval yard shooting. just a short distance from the nation'nation's capitol, gun fid a frantic search for answer he. and in our special coverage a
look at the gunman and also ahead reopening the debate. >> we are confronting another mass shooting. >> another mass killing and what america will do to stop i.t. from happening again. -- to stop it from happening again. >> hello and welcome to this special edition of america tonight. scene of the d.c. navy yard shooting. already tonight the capitol is taking its respects to the 12 victims, the 13th was the shooter. it is a shores distance away
from the scene of the -- short distance away from the scene of the attack. and under caution everyone even children were kept inside out of risk of harm. as many of the 3,000 workers on the sprawling campus were either just coming into work getting their breakfast beginning their day violently interrupted by the shots of a gunman reportedly a government contractor who came into the navy yard and then began firing. help came quickly but authorities say 34-year-old aaron alexis, a military reservist himself, gunned down 12 others, it took pretty much all day to make sure everyone was out clear and safe. america tonight's laurie jane gliha has been out, most of the day. laurie what is the latest you can bring us?
>> well, joie, they are still trying to identify another person of interest in this. they are not sure what connection he may or may not have to the shooter, they're describing him as a black man in his 50s who earlier today was wearing an olive drab uniform. they are definitely trying to figure out who he is. they are also looking for people to go to the fbi website, they have placed a photograph of aaron alexis on their website and they're inviting anyone who has had contact with him over the last few days to contact them. they are trying to establish a time line and still look for amotive. joie, this was very chaotic, the shooting happened around 8:30 or shortly thereafter. a lot of them had practice for this for years, in emergency lock down, this wasn't a drill, it was definitely a scary situation. and many of these people had
been in lock down for several hours. to give you an idea there's about 20,000 people on that compound and still right now at this hour about 2,000 people have not been bussed out of there. they have not been able to see their families. we caught up with one man who worked where it happened and heard the shot. >> fortunately most of us couldn't see whatever was going on and that was good because that meant whoever was shooting couldn't see us as well. i heard some shots, i didn't think they were shots at the time but that's what they were. somebody ran in and said basically shots had been fired, you know lock yourself down. >> now that man told us all he wanted to do was go home and hug his wife. as you can imagine, this was an extremely hectic day for everybody that was here. right now bus loads of people are still being bussed out thereof back to national stadium so they can reunite with their
families. joie some of these roads are blocked off. the navy yard is still an active crime scene, open to essential personnel only. there was a woman that i interviewed that was in town for business and happened to be there. she was able to snap some photographs from the room where she was locked down. >> that was the medical team that was coming through. right before the fbi swath came squat came through so they've got their back boards and all their emergency gear just running down the street. it really was a little on the terrifying side but we didn't know everything that was going on because even though we had some internet it was spotty, it kept going in and out and we kept hearing different reactions. >> now a lot of these people just want to go home and see their families, they've been taking care of them while they're still
stuck at the navy yard. giving them mres and water. 10:00ing briefing at the police department we'll hear more about the scene and the shooter, joie. >> for those who have not seen the navy yard itself, it is an enormous space. it was probably hard to get an idea what was going on inside of it. >> yeah, 20,000 people work on this property, there's civilians, military personnel. to get a sense of who's out there, what's going on, it's a very vast space. a lot of people that have been locked up in their lock down situations, probably a lot of stuff going through their mind all day. many of them had spotty internet, as the woman said, wasn't able to find out what was going on. a lot of interviews needed to be done with the people still there. they still say there's 2,000 people on the property and a lot of interviews to be done about
what happened and what went done when the shooter came in, was able to fire. >> absolutely, we'll ask you to keep an eye on, laurie jane gliha, our correspondent on the scene of the washington navy yard. we want to probe into the mind of our best understand upsing what's happening here, what happened to aaron alexis and what we can learn. joining us is investigative reporter tom morris and barry spodak. tom let's start with you. there's starting to be some sort of picture about this guy, what his history was and it wasn't particularly good. >> no. this isn't the first time aaron alexis has been involved with a gun and firing a gun in public. in 2004 in seattle he shot out the tires of a car that belonged to construction workers that were building a home next to where he was staying with his grandmother. apparently he had been vesmed
over the fact that parking -- vexed over the fact that parking around his house was disrupted because of this construction. construction people told police after this shooting incident that he would come out and stair at them for hours at a time. for about 30 days. >> really intense? >> he would stair at them, really intense. one day he walked up to a glock persis pis pistoland walked back into the . >> was there anything that would give us any indication? >> when the police arrested him he said he basically blacked out and didn't remember the shooting until about an hour after he had done it. keep in mind it took the police about
an month to find him and arrest him in seattle. he was living with his grandmother at the time he did this. they had not found the gun initially but after they arrested him, they did find it in his bedroom wrapped up in some paper. so he has this history of apparently just quirking out as they say. >> he is a navy reservist. was he involved in any active duty situations we know of? >> he was discharged for bad conduct basically. >> barry spodak, you have worked with investigators. let's not talk about this particular situation but you were involved in people in training, doing this type of investigation. help us understand what parameters they are looking for? >> the methodology in cases like this has to do with what we call behavioral threat assessment. and at the basis of behavioral threat assessment is the
understanding that people who carry out acts like this don't just snap. that indeed, the path to violence that they take can take weeks, months, and sometimes years of planning. >> hang on here. it seems like from what tom's saying what his sources are giving him that would indicate that he was sending up plenty of red flags. >> absolutely. so what you see on this path are certain behaviors that we have seen time and time again in individuals who carry out these acts of violence. it is in the open. people know about it. but the problem is, is that people don't -- people in their lives don't know quite what to make about it. they don't know who to bring that information to. they don't understand the repercussions and they can't -- they are in a sense of denial about seeing what this may look like down the road. >> now so far what we have heard has not indicated that he's come in with any statements as he walked onto the campus today
that he didn't try to engage anybody in conversation but came in and started shooting. >> unlike assassination shootings, a large part of workplace incidents have to do with revenge. >> we've previously talked to you about the fort hood shooter and the young man in georgia who was actually disarmed by a woman working in school who talked him out of it. how does this compare to the situation where you have a guy walk in and start firing? >> very much along the lines with what we saw with mr. hasan. this was a man on a mission. he came there with a carefully thought-out plan. he did not expect to survive just as hasan did not expect to survive and he was there to kill as many people as he could as quickly as he could. >> we are going to talk to you further in this program as we get more details about the washington navy yard.
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yard, a new day and the start of a new week for thousands of employees. d.c. police chief kath kathy lanier,. >> a shooter inside the navy yard. we have one shooter we believe involved in this that is deceased. >> workers here were ordered to shelter in place, stay safe. within seven minutes an active shooter team, fbi naval criminal investigations and d.c. police all scrambled onto the scene. within an hour, the capitol itself was locked down, and the washington airport. just after noon d.c. mayor vincent gray. >> as far as we know this is an isolated incident. we don't know of any other installations that are involved in this.
we would ask all the residents of this area to please stay out of the area. this is an active investigation. that is going on. >> president obama watching events develop stepped in shortly after. >> we still don't know all the facts. but we do know that several people have been shot. and some have been killed. so we are confronting yet another mass shooting. and today, it happened on a military installation in our nation's capitol. it's a shooting that targeted our military and civilian personnel. these are men and women who were going to work doing their job, protecting all of us. >> throughout the day the death toll rose, from four to seven. and just after 3:00, the official report, 12 victims, the shooter was the 13th dead. the shooting was the worst loss of life in washington since 1982, when an air florida plane crashed into the 14th street bridge.
just after 5:00 the shooter aaronism laffey aaron aaron alexis was identified. >> mr. phil mendelson. an event that involves members of your own community, was information given to you as a city leader here? >> i was given some reports early in the morning but at this point i think we all know the same information. >> yeah, is there an indication about what will happen moving forward into tomorrow? i know there are some reports about who will be able to go to work and how much access there will be down in that part of the community. >> well, i can't speak to what's going to happen at the navy yard, because that's a federal facility. i think the city's going to try as quickly as it can to return to normal. obviously there will be a lot of, what do we call after-action
looking at what happened and whether there were some steps we could have taken. what we should do to be better prepared in the future. but i have to say seven minutes response by police is pretty good but still you look at these events and you learn from them. >> that sounds like it's a still very active scene out there even at this hour. a lot of sirens coming by you, i'm sure it must be hard to hear. >> yes. >> i want you to expand on that point. seven minutes you're right, we did hear there was quite an action team, a go-team that jumped on board here. is this something the city had prepared for? is this a strategy you had to bring the federal and local law enforcement officials together in just such a circumstance? >> oh yeah there's bin a lot of work over the year. remember the washington metropolitan area was the target of the september 2011 attacks,
one of the planes crashed into the pentagon so there's been a lot of work in the decade since to make sure that the different agencies federal and local both washington, d.c. as well as the suburbs are all working together. and then also a lot of improvements to technology, better communications, just a lot of work. and more work and examination, i mean it's never good enough. there's always something that can be learned. >> this is certainly a time of year when we continue to see a lot of tourists from around the country, coming here to washington. >> yes. >> a lot of schoolchildren particularly coming to washington and from our studios at the museum, a lot of visitors feeling a sense of security or not, what can you tell them? >> i tell them washington, d.c. is a safe city and what we saw here today is very unfortunate and it's unfortunate it's happened elsewhere. washington is no more dangerous or is just as safe as other cities in the country.
and there's a lot more, a lot more sensitivity on the part of public safety, to ensure that people are safe. you know my daughter goes to public school. i heard you announce that the schools had been -- some of the schools had been locked down. i felt completely safe with my daughter in the schools today. >> well, that would be reassuring to many folks as well. there are people who would actually say that d.c. is maybe a safer city than others because we have the benefit of both the federal and local law enforcement here. >> oh yes, i think we saw that with the multiple agencies that responded to this event and a lot of accordance. i can tell you back in 2001, september 11th, there was not this -- this degree of coordination. and not because it was an unwillingness ten years ago but just a lot of training. so my message to folks would be that the city is safe in spite
of something unfortunate like this. >> d.c. city council chairman phil mendelson. thanks for being with us. >> thank you joie. >> moving on benjamin bryant, our next guest was on the fort hood task force. there's been a lot of comparisons that could already be made, a military installation, a reservist who may have been welcome or had some understanding of security on the base. can you give us some information what has been learned that may be helped in moving as kotchman mendelson. >> for people in the pentagon i imagine there are a lot of flash backs, a lot of thoughts, a lot of parallels that jump to mind. the thing that comes to my mind was probably i think recommendation 4.3, active shooter situations, and we
recognized the co-chairs togo west and vern clark noted that the dod had not accepted or brought in an official way all the body of knowledge for active shooting, since columbine, lessons learned, best practices had been codified or brought in to policies of dod. >> give us an idea, in this particular case it might have seen to those of us as outside observers, it was hodgepodge they ran a bunch of law enforcement. but you said there was an active plan. >> that's what came out of this what they recognized in the wakeup call that was fort hood we had to reach out to get this fantastic body of knowledge which involved neutralizing, the old plan when there's an active shooter there you hold tight and you call in the people that know
what to do. in an active shooter situation, you need to quickly identify and neutralize that shooter. what the military has become good at is planning for those kind of occurrences. i hate to say there might have been more lives lost, the best thing i heard joie is that we have contained the shooter although we have not captured him. >> what do you mean by neutralize? >> it primarily meant getting them away where they can't kill anymore. there are a lot of scenarios from what hpped, you want to stop the killing. i take this very personally. i grow up in the nil tri ever single thing that i had in my first few years of life was bought in the my tri. when someone is running around in a highly populated area you feel that threat very strongly.
neutralizing means stopping the killing. >> there is a lot of indication and i know this came up very early in the news coverage today, when you are looking at a breaking news situation where you don't have a lot of details you have a shooter taking place at a military installation, the possibility of additional shooters as well, what comes to mind is, is this a terrorist attack? >> of course it does. but the key thing, we can't get caught up with, is this a terrorist attack, in the first few moments. this report of the fort hood shooting, got a lot of flak about how come this wasn't an islamic terrorist report? more important is workplace violence issue, domestic violence issues, random acts that quickly escalate, people are mentally ill. how do we make sure when
situations go out of control where security is breached where somebody is acting in a way unacceptable and dangerous how do we neutralize this, if we get focused on is this a trortd, that brings a lot of--a terrorist, then that brings a lot of emotions into it. >> gun violence how could that have been missed? >> the question is was this missed by family, was it missed by co-workers was it missed by the miller tri when he was in the military? -- military when he was in the military? there are a lot of reasons that different audiences choose to see -- not to see things that are right in front of them. when you see a situation escalating if someone you love or someone you work with you know is demonstrating risky behaviors read up on them and talk to the right people. don't gossip about it, talk to the right people and get involved. >> i have to ask you weren't
there more security put in place after something like fort hood where you knew there was a potential for people even people who work for the military might have a situation where their concentration is snapped where their behavior is snapped? >> one thing that was important to understand is he was in the ready reserve. the ready reserve is not the same thing as we traditionally think of as the reserve where someone trains for once a year. the ready reserve is, you're not in the system where we tend to think of where you're being treated in the military, observed by the military on a regular basis. i think that's important to note. i think the military has done a tremendous job being able to screen and more important teach pierce to note these situations and report them. there is only so much you can control, that's something impressive that they followed
>> in a slow complicated and quite expensive project crews on an italian island has started shifting the wrecked costa concordia cruise ship. last january the concordia hit a rock and capsized, killing 32 people. the captain is on charge for manslaughter, accused of steering his imr shi ship to shore. mexico's interior minister says storms have impacted
two-thirds of the country with some areas getting almost ten inches of rain. also on rain to colorado where there's been a break in the weather giving the national guard the opportunity to find stranded and trapped victims. other residents are having a chance to start picking up the pieces. rob reynolds reports for america tonight. >> relentless and powerful, the water flowed down. paying no heed to the fragile works of man kind. roads, houses, possessions, lives. the water moved. and hayden court because just in its way. jennifer moved to her new house on hayden court just six weeks ago. in the basement is a thick river mud and a smell .
>> this is all gone . yeah, just gone. >> perot has no flood insurance but even with all the damage she sees redemption. >> i'm safe you know, allison my sister is safe my dog are safe and people in this neighborhood are safe which is really important. it's not this stuff. >> up and down hayden court wrecked cars huge chunks of asphalt and toppled lamp posts testify to the power of thursday's flood. people are staying stock and figuring out what to do next. emergency workers cleared debris debris. roland robertson helped his parents scoop muck from their garage. nina robinson hobbling around with an injured leg was at home with her 13-year-old son and one of his friends when the water started swirling up
fast. she saw her car swept away. >> it was a matter of 13 minutes, and within three minutes take the durango down the road. >> larson and the two boys were trapped for 13 hours before rescuers came for them. but in the meantime her husband jeff swam across flooded fields battling the heavy current trying to get to his family. >> you're out of yourself. you have to get to your family. >> emergency workers say them which have the power back on in a day or two. but the repair work and a cleanup will take a lot longer than that. and none of the families who live here on hayden court will ever forget the day the waters rose. rob reynolds, al jazeera lon longmont colorado. other news now the united nations
releases its long awaited report on chemical weapons in syria. america tonight's sheila macvicar has been leading the investigation and this report is very detailed but does it assign blame? >> joie utter comes days after the u.s. and russian federation reached agreement on how to disarm the syria chemical weapons. the report was presented today to the u.n. secretary-general. it's 41 pages long. details the painstaking work the inspectors did on the ground in those damascus suburbs. the blood and hair samples taken from survivors, soil and other environmental tests. the results are clear and unequivocal. here is ban ki-moon the u.n. secretary-general. >> the results are overwhelming and indispussable.
85% of the blood samples tested positive for serin. the majority of the environmental samples confirmed the use of serin. a majority of the rockets or rockets fragments recovered were found to be carrying serin. the findings are beyond doubt and beyond the pale. this is a war crime, and grave violation of the 1925 protocol and other rules of international law, customary international law. it is the most significant confirmed use of chemical weapons against singles since saddam hussein used them in halabja in 1988, and the worst use of weapons massive destruction in the 21st century. >> the inspectors were to determine only if chemical weapons were used not conclude which side had used them. but in their report, there are
details leading to conclusions. the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. highlighted the quality of the serin used, saying it was superior to the serin in saddam hussein's stock piles, adding this is not a cottage industry production. the munitions tested by the inspectors were 120 millimeter rockets only used by the regime and not by the opposition. in two different occasions, they were able to track the missiles and held in the territory. in paris today secretary of state john kerry, stocks of chemical weapons and precursors. >> this deprives assad of a weapon. they were using the airplanes anyway. they were using the artillery anyway and yes, that continues
to be a problem. and that's exactly what the three of us and others are going to continue to focus on. pushing for geneva, pushing for the political settlement, because the opposition and everyone else need to understand. the best way to win the victory for the future of syria is to have the syrian people choose that future without assad. and that will happen through negotiated process. not through the destruction of the entire state and the creation of millions of more refugees and turmoil for region. >> secretary kerry also called for enforceable benchmarks saying verify, verify, veafer, adding this is not a matter of trust. >> if there are verifiable time lines? >> the u.s. and russian experts meeting this week in geneva have
come to an agreement about how much of this stuff syria has. so if the stuff is moved, if it has been shipped abroad, there have been some reports today that some may have been sent to lebanon. when the inspectors get in there and can do an accounting they can come to a decision as to whether or not they have got it all. in terms of a time line it is very short. destroying chemical weapons is a very complex process. they have to be incinerated. how do they do that, build an incinerator in syria in the middle of a brutal civil war? do you ship it out? it's meant to be completely incinerated, completely destroyed by early 2014. >> early next year? >> very fast. >> they have to establish how much there is, where it is, get it all, figure out how to destroy it and destroy it. >> secure it, in the middle of a
country in a civil war. this is no easy task. it will be expensive. there will be security issues. here's the thing if you are mr. assad. this agreement is dependent upon mr. assad's follow up. >> his compliance? >> his compliance. it is heater mr. assad or someone who is close to mr. assad who is the guarantor of this deal. >> we'll see where it goes . sheila macvicar thanks so much. [[voiceover]] every day, events sweep across our country. and with them, a storm of views. how can you fully understand the impact unless you've heard angles you hadn't considered? antonio mora brings you smart conversation that challenges the status quo with unexpected opinions and a fresh outlook. including yours.
sachin asked the indian media not to put too much pleasure pressure on the teenager. >> my son started his career. it's a humble request if he can live his life like a normal 14-year-old without thinking of anything other than falling in love with the sport. (applause) >> some footsteps to follow in. more on the website. check it out. all the details. get in touch with us on twitter and facebook. plenty more from me later, but that is the sport for now. >> thank you. stay with us on al jazeera. another full bulletin of news is ahead with julie mcdonald, who
but child sex trafficking in this country is one of the topics currently being discussed at a justice department child safety summit this week. hundreds of thousands of youngsters may get bad fast. >> for emma -- >> my mother was a heroin addict. >> the life of worthlessness and a life of prostitution. >> trying to safe as much money from what i was doing to stop doing it. i look at girls who are 12 years old or 13, and it just boggles my mind that that can happen to them at such a young age. >> child sex trafficking is often considered a developing world problem. but the u.s. justice department says up to 300,000 children are being prostituted right here in the united states.
the average age, 13 to 14. an fbi sting in july, netted 105 child prostitutes. >> one out of eight reported missing here were likely child sex traffic victims. this is likely occurring here in the united states with many children. >> many sold at strip clubs plas an parlors and motels, don't fully realize they're being trafficked. >> i have seen women who have come in who have been pimped out by their father at the age of 16. i have seen ten year olds who have been recruited by pimps, you can be sold over and over again, if you sell a drug once it's gone. >> one pimp can sell, emma escaped to the chicago dream center where she now tells her
story to young girls. >> i tell them that god loves them. it's hard when you think that nobody really cares. and you think that why is this happening to me? what did i do? >> there is hope and life after prostitution, emma says. she's studying to become a hairstylist but it's a story she tells far too often. >> that was john hendren reporting. ow to one of the most spectacular ship salvage operations in history. it's underway in italy right now. the costa concordia, charlie angela tells us how the team is lifting that doomed ship. >> after 20 months of lying in the waters of jee
giglio island, the most huge salvage operation is on course. they've pulled the ship off the rocks and would eventually rest 114,000 ton liner on an underwater platform. slowly spilling out thousands of liters of filthy water. before it capsized, this floating city was able to entertain and house more than a thousand people. >> at the moment i honestly don't see anything to worry us. at the moment. naturally, we're keeping a close eye on the situation, we're ready in case anything happens. but at the moment i don't see any points of concern. >> while this is an impressive feat of engineering it is also the site of a tragic accident. 32 people died and two victims have not been found.
one an indian waiter was last seen giving his life jacket to another passenger. salvage experts say their bodies could be pinned under the ship and finding them will be a priority. for the people of giglio who have lived in the wreck's shadow for so long, this is a relief. >> it is like giving a birth to a child. it is immense happiness but a moment when you see immense responsibility. >> they won't be rid of the costa concordia yet. it will be stabilized and partially partially refloated to be taken away next summer. >> more of america tonight's special coverage after a break.
sometimes it's just you know accidents that occur, that we get to help people with, hundreds of accidents. and then you see what i call senseless trauma. and there is -- there is something evil in our society that we, as americans, have to work on, to try and eradicate. i have to say, i may see this every day, i may be the chief medical officer of a very large trauma center but there's something wrong here. when we have these multiple shootings, these multiple injuries, there's something wrong. the only thing i can say is we have to work together to get rid of it, i like you, put my trauma center out of business. >> very passionate and emotional
response following this day, a very complicated day in washington, d.c, as we have been covering the washington navy yard shootings. joining us now, tom morris, investigative reporter, barry spodak, helping us understand what goes on in the mind of these suspects. about this particular suspect, aaron alexis and the possibility that he has been sending out signals for some time. not only the early shootings when he was living with his mother. but dallas. >> he was living in oak hill in an apartment and in september 2010 he fired a round from his apartment up through the ceiling to his neighbor's apartment. >> it could have been an accident. >> he said it was, cleaning the weapon and it discharged. he was charged with discharge of a weapon in
the jurisdiction but wasn't prosecuted for i.t. the interesting thing was he had an ongoing situation with this particular neighbor. regardless he didn't pay any legal consequence doing this but he continued to possess guns. >> the doctor's rather impassioned plea about eradicating this type of violence and changing the culture, changing the thinking. is it possible when you think about the mind of criminals or the mind of people acting in this way, is there a way to change that thinking? >> the most important thing is to change the thinking of the people who observe these kinds of behaviors. the incident that tom was alluding to in dallas, that neighbor afterwards said that she was terrified of him. terrified. and that's a word that we hear often. about people who have come in contact with these folks before they carry out their acts.
and the part of our society that i think has reacted in the most thorough way, are colleges, universities and campuses, you know campuses. >> we have seen so much violence, so much mass violence and there has been a lot of collection of data and information about this. take a look. there is a report that we were looking at and the number of mass shootings in the past couple of years, five already this year. seven last year. 107 people killed between all these incidents. and yet, the legislative discussion has not veered to respond to that, even though it hasn't even followed the polling on this. >> i don't know that there is a legislative answer to this. i think there's a cultural answer to it. college campuses have been very, very thorough in a multi-step process of having their students be aware of the behaviors to look for. knowing where that -- those behaviors are to be reported.
and then analyzing those behaviors in a thorough and sensible way, to intervene before these things happen. >> and law enforcement similarly has been looking more deeply at mass shootings. >> you look at a guy like alexis. he moved around a lot. he has lived in about five different places since 2000. he was sort of a loaner but also gregarious. fort worth, where he worked at the happy taibo restaurant, he worked there part time. yet at the same time those friends there had become concerned about him recently because he had gotten to the point where he would stay in his room and just play violent video games over and over all day long. they began to joke with him, saying dude you are really spending way too much time. >> entertainment psychology on
the thinking and behavior of these people. how about the insider outsider element, a guy that recognized the security likelihood he was going to face going onto that base but understood enough about how to get on. he was a contractor, he was oreservist. >> and these folks carefully plan out their attacks. sometimes they rehearse their attacks. there's all kinds of preattack behaviors we look for to identify those folks before they carry it out. so none of these incidents are sort of off the cuff. you know what we found in school shooters and assassins, is that we they have studied previous attempts and seen where they've failed and then addressed them to make sure that their attack could even be more deadly. >> and then back on the legislative question itself, where you have tried to legislate greater control, washington, d.c. still known as
the place of the greatest gun control in the country. >> maryland too, sb 281 and one of the components of that is a strong mental health aspect of dealing with how to prevent people that have mental history or people that have some indication of mental history, how do they balance keeping those people from getting weapons without violating their civil rights and their medical history rights. >> but mental heavily issues certainly should have come up -- health issues certainly have gone on to a contractor with a military rift isn't it? >> there is no indications that this guy was psychotic and that is a status where you should be hospitalized. >> shooting out the tires of a construction worker? >> that's not necessarily psychotic are behavior. that's a pretty rageful person -- >> shooting out the ceiling of your apartment not considered psychotic behavior? >> no absolutely not.
>> and following the process, understanding the behavior of that person whether it's psychotic or not, it seems to be a law enforcement recording or some -- >> it's interesting with this guy that after the shooting in seattle where he shot the tires out, detectives talked to his father in new york and aaron alexis's father said he had been present at 9/11 helping to rescue people and he suffered from ptsd as a result of that experience. i don't know for certain that is true. he was living in new york city for quite some time, he has lived in queens, brooklyn, staten island, and that's what he told detectives and his father told detectives investigating that bizarre situation in seattle. >> laurie jane gliha, i understand there is further information coming up at the top
of the hour. >> yeah, joie we're waiting for a ten o'clock press conference, hopefully we'll learn a little more about the shooter and if indeed he was work ago loan or had help. it is going to be a long night. it could be another three or four hours before the people on the base are able to go home. i mentioned earlier 20,000 people work there, civilians, military personnel other contractors. and as of about an hour ago there were still about a thousand people that had to be yet shipped out of there on a bus. and throughout the night we have seen police vehicles come by with their sirens sirens blaring very loudly. it is a very slow process, they have to interview each of these people trying to get any information about this because they're still trying to establish some sort of motive in all this. >> laurie jane you are in an area that is a big area for tourists, contractors business people.
this is a community right around the navy yard that is an up and coming residential area as well. >> yeah joie a lot of people have been displaced pushed out of their homes. this has been a long day with a lot of police presence and roads closed down, it's been a bit of inconvenience for people who live here but understandably this may take a couple of days to investigate, this is the largest shooting ever to have taken place in the capitol. this road has opened up one of the main roads which is just a couple of blocks down from where the yard is. so we'll wait to see what happens at 10:00 tonight and hopefully learn more about the investigation. >> laurie jane gliha our america tonight correspondent down at the washington navy yard. our experts helping us to understand what might be in the mind of the navy shooter thank you all very much.
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