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>> welcome to al jazeera america. i am stephanie cy. here are the stop stories we are following at this hour. congressional negotiators say they have hammered out a tentative deal to keep the government running for the next two years. the agreement would restore about $63,000,000,000 in automatic spending cuts. but it still needs to pass the house and the senate. a funeral procession for nelson mandela traveled through the streets of pretty pretoria. his body will lie in state for the next three days. [ music ] tuesday, nearly 100 world leaders joined tens of thousands of sounds africans at the official memorial at a johanesburg soccer stadium. riot police are clamping down in
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ukraine storming into kiev's independence square. crowds have been demonstrating for 10 days opposing the president's decision not to sign a packet with the eu. secretary of state john kerry con democrated the police actions. long time general motors employee mary barra has been named the first ceo. she has been with the company 34 years. she started as a co-opinion student when she was 18 years old. those are the headlines. "consider this" is up next. you can always catch us online at aljazeera.com. >> south africa mourns its fallen leader and the world joined in on tuesday.
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"consider this" have the leaders who followed him failed the country that he leaves behind? also 700,000 are in america's terror watch list, there are concerns about whether they are effective or accurate. who is watching the people that compile the terror watch lists. katie couric got into some hot water for a show on h.p.v. vaccines. we look at those and others and the dangers when america decides not to get vaccinated. >> and the man that got the beat at the "the denver post." he joins us. >> we begin with an announcement from the capital. house and senate negotiators
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patty murray and paul ryan have shutdown. >> our deal rolls back sequestation, cuts to education, medical research and infrastructure investments for the next two years. >> we are paying for that with reformed on the autopilot side of the expenditure. that is a good deal. >> many conservatives are arguing the point. i'm joined by stan collender, a partner at qorvis communications, who does consulting for al jazeera, and a budget expert and founder of the blog "capital gains and games." great to have you back. this deal eliminates $65 billion in sequester cuts and $20 billion that would hit the pentagon. we are only talking about trimming $23 billion and the
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deficit in 2013 is $680 billion. >> it's a $23 billion reduction in the deficit over two years, so the impact is less. don't minimise the $680 billion. it's a huge reduction from the deficit a few years ago. bottom line on the deal is it's better for congress than it is for the country as a whole. it doesn't do much about the deficit. it kicks the can down the road for a couple of years, but avoids the nastiness that will make congress a little happier. >> if the budget has come down substantially since the height of recession, it's more than it was at the end of the bush years when people complained how high the deficit was then. >> it's true. in the current economic environment a deficit is not bad to run. the gdp equation is corporation
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spending, consumer spending, government spending and trade. three of the four are not doing anything. if the federal government were to eliminate the deficit, it depression. >> we need the spending to stimulate the economy. >> exactly. great to see bipartisan in washington, but i don't know how much it is. conservatives are lining up against the deal. marco rubio says all it does is put us back where we started with the statement unsustainable entitlement programs driving up debt. can conservatives accept rolling back the cuts without getting anything real? >> we'll know if the tea party folks will let this happen or let john boehner go forward. if john boehner went ahead with democratic votes, there's no doubt it will pass.
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the question is whether he'll be allowed to take on the tea party. it's the same fight we've had with the budget. we have seen big-time conservative organizations like heritage action say, "no, we don't like this." this is probably a slam dunk. in the house, it's going to be a problem. one other thing i need to mention is this does not stop a government shutdown from likely. >> conservative think tank, like you said, like heritage action was beating the drum. with that and a lot of significant conservative money pushing these think tanks and pushing the republicans in congress, is there - how likely do you think it is that the house will come through. it seemed that paul ryan was fairly comfortable. >> he would give the bravado now. he couldn't sound like he wasn't sure about it.
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it's going to come down to boep more than paul ryan. ryan put his credentials on the line. one of the things that happened is the republican leader in the senate got a primary challenge from someone saying he wasn't conservative. it's not inconceivable that paul ryan might get a primary challenge because of this. >> senator murray is wanting the democrats to pass it. it tells us something about how conservatives will look at the dam. we don't think that liberals will have a problem with the deal. it leaves sequester cuts in place. it does nothing to extend long-term employment. >> another big issue for the democrats is the increase in the amount of federal employees will have to pay. you have a number of mention in
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and around the washington area, federal employees saying, "hell, no, we won't go." the only way they'd vote for it is if nancy pelosi went to them and said, "this can't pass without your vote. there'll be democrats and republicans. it may mean it's a bipartisan agreement. republicans and democrats opposing and supporting it. it will be close in the house. it will be close. so. >> government shutdown not a guarantee. we are facing the debt sealing in february. so if you were a betting man, what do you think - this will pass and we'll stop governing by crisis for a while. >> they are two separate questions. number one, i do think approximately pass, maybe nail biting. i don't think we'll go away from government by crisis. don't forget this bill is not self-implementing you have to
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pass the bills to implement it. it will have those crises. there'll be issues like extending tax provisions. the box fit under medicare. with the way partisan politics is going to washington, there'll be plenty of the crisis to report on. >> let hope gridlock get a litting better. >> the memorial in johannesburg in south africa, for the man that led the majority to freedom. president obama made some news shaking raul castro's hand in pasting. the majority black population is still suffering economic hardships it felt under the white minority scheme. but it's exuberance at the celebrations and the deep feeling from nelson mandela. that's what we will be remembering from this
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day. >> he showed the awesome power, and on connecting people with each other and with a true meaning of peace. >> in his honour we commit ourselves to continue building a nation based on the democratic values of human dignity, quality and freedom. >> we will never see the likes of nelson mandela again. but let me say to the young people of africa, and the young people around the world you, too, can make his life worth your own. >> for more i'm joined by al
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jazeera america foreign correspondent nick schifrin, he joins us from johannesburg south africa. what has the reaction been to nelson mandela's memorial today? we have seen people celebrating for days. is there more mourning or is the celebration continuing? >> no, i think the celebration is continuing. we heard some of the sound bites from inside that stadium. it was an incredible scene, lots of people dancing on the way in, taking buses. people are sad, mourning. there's no doubt they miss the man they call their father. nelson mandela was old, he'd been sick for a long time. people expected there to happen. at the end of today, especially today there's a thankfulness, an appreciation. all the creation of the modern south african state. today, especially, was a celebration of his life. everything that he's done to people.
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i talk to people in the streets. everyone says something along the same lines. "i remember when ta ta said this to me", or, "i remember when madeba shook my hand", everywhere has a personal story and they are thankful to talk about that and recognise that on an official day of mourning like today >> yes, of course, because he managed to get human rights for people that were desperately oppressed. nelson mandela told his african national congress that his basic principal was one man, one vote. south africa has achieved that. on the other hand is the black majority getting closer to economic equality with the white minority. >> it's a crucial question. i spent the day in townships on the edge of johannesburg. we here that we'd thank nelson mandela for the political freed
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i'm not. where is the economic freedom? he thank him for the sackry face - sacrifices and why is it taking so long. we didn't realise how long it could take to get the economic equality? there's a sense of thank you for our freedom and getting rid of apartheid and separation, but where is the hope and economic possibility. to a certain extent they blame the politicians and nelson mandela for not focussing on the economics. ultimately they are frustrated. where i spent the day there was little garbage collection. it's not a nice place to livement the majority say
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something changed. patients is running thin. it's not the chaos in neighbouring zimbabwe. >> have conditions improved at all things nelson mandela became the president in the 1990s. what were you told. >> with a little perspective, it's not zimbabwe. this is the enemy of high hopes. i think nelson mandela talked about economic freedom as much as he talked about political freedom. he talked about burdening or unburdening people, not only from segregation, but poverty. i think people lost and gained freedom when apartheid lost. they thought they'd have jobs and more opportunities. so, yes, things have gotten better. there is not any kind of riots that we are seeing over bread, water, basic services. however, the patience is wearing thin. expectations are high, and
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people look at the economics of the white communities and say, "hey, wait a minute. this is not supposed to happen." that's where people are objecting to and increasingly looking at politicians saying, "hey, you haven't delivered what you promise." maybe nelson mandela party is not as good as it used to be. >> jacob zuma arrived and was booed soundly. he walked away from corruption charges and rape, but censured to recklessness. how has he managed to hold on to power. is it that the a.n.c. is strong and has a broad popular basis support that they'll hold on to power for the foreseeable future. >> i think it's one word. nelson mandela has been dead for
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a few days and the loyalty on the streets where i was, with people blamed the politicians calling them corrupt. they say ta that is the a.n.c. but in the next breath they say, "will there be alternatives?", with coalitions create themselves sniffing blood in the water. nobody believes that a.n.c. will lose the election, but if it gets down to 60%. if the a.n.c. gets down to 60 other parties will say, "wait a minute, this is fragile. this is not a guarantee." they'll appeal to people in the townships, saying, "we can do better. we can deliver more." over the next few years you may see it chipping away.
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maybe in the next few days there'll be a run. >> it will be interesting there and in the years to come to see if the political landscape changes. nick schifrin, we appreciate you joining us were johannesburg. >> coming up - who watches the terror watch list. we talk to a former marine that was not allowed to fly. is there a list that is keeping us safe. and harmela aregawi watching the web. what is trending? >> there's a tug of war on who controls the north pole. santa is not part of the fight. what do you think. on techknow, our scientists bring you a sneak-peak of the future, and take you behind the scenes at our evolving world.
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>> who is watching the watch lists, that's the question asked
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as more and more people are finding themselves on a terrorist watch list. to top it off what if you find out you can't board a plane, and you can't find out why you are on a list, and good luck trying to get it off the list. how do we balance protecting the country and protecting civil liberties? joining us is mallika marshall, one of 13 american citizens suing the government for being denied the right to board the plane. >> and dr anya bernstein, an associate professor at suny buffalo law school, and an "the hidden costs of terrorist watch lists." it was published in buffalo law review. you're a former united states marine, honourably discharged you are have a wife and kids, have a dog trainer. you run a nonprofit providing service dogs for disabled
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citizens much how did you end up on a terrorist watch list? >> i have no idea. it started in april 2010. i was going to check into the airport to fly out to train dogs in washington state. as i attempted to check-in i was denied boarding. the lady took my lanes, went in back and came back. i was surrounded by 30 t.s.a. and chicago police. she informed me i was on the no fly list and i wouldn't be able to fly commercial airline, and the fbi was on the way to the airport. the fbi got there. i was in shock. they said they wanted to speak to me. he asked general questions, i thought it was a mix up. after that i said, "wait", he said, "i'm free to go." i said, "i have a few questions." he said, "go
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ahead." i said, "how did i get on the list and how do i get off." he said, "you can fill out a form." several minutes later my phone rang after filling out the form, they said they would like to interview me. i said, "that was fine." i thought it was a mix up. this was more invasive of an interview. they pulled out a do not flag question and answer like a kid would have. they started asking me about my military background, if i was trained in explosives. i wasn't. being a former marine, i served this country. i told them i was muslim, that opened the door to other questions. this interview lasted about an hour, and they left. that was in april 2010. i didn't hear anything until june 2010. they said they had great news, they'd like to meet with me. i said, "why don't you tell me over the phone, i don't want to
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waste your type of or you mine." they said, "we really want to meet with you." they said, "we'd like to meet between here and the city, our filed office is at the city." they said they wanted me to meet them at the hotel. we sat in the lobby, they'd buy me something to eat and we'd talk, and they'd april my questions, even though i didn't have any. when i got to the hotel. they weren't there. i called the cell phones and they said, "we are on the fourth floor." this is where things it took an interesting turn for the worst. they said, "would you mind coming up to the fourth floor." i thought, "you know what, i have to go up and figure out what is going on." i went up to the fourth floor. the other agent was up there and they said, "we have great new, we can get you off the no fly list." they said, "you need us to do something." i said what?"
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they said, "we'd like to you go under cover as an informant and tell them about various mosques." i said, "this is crazy, i'm married, with three children." they said, "it's a paid position. under the table. they said you couldn't tell your life." i googled no fly list informant and the aclu case came up. they sent a lawyer out and they added me to a lawsuit. >> what a story you have. anya bernstein, there's a terrorism screening database and there's a series of secondary lists, a no fly list. what are, as you have written, lists? >> well, the hidden costs are costs that are not the kind of individual harm that we have
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been talking about. they are the way that having a lot of names on the list, that aren't the names of real terrorist threats focts the way that policy makers thing about terrorism, and the way that agents think about terrorism. so if you have a bloated list that looks like there's a lot of threats, it encourage people to spend resources on the problem, and us as a society to focus a lot of resources on, and resources are diverted from other problems. that's one cost. >> according to the terrorist screening center they say less than 1% on the watch lists are american citizens. obviously it will be a tremendous inconvenience to anyone on the list. in general is it a relatively small problem when it comes to people in the united states? >> one question up have to ask is what are we getting in
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exchange for the lists. how much safer are we really. something that i discovered in my research is the agencies don't appear to be interested in the question the at some point all detainees in afghanistan during the war were placed on a terrorist watch list. without any individualized investigation into who they actually were or why they were detained. that suggests that we have a lot of names on the watch lists, a lot of resources diverted to look out for these people when, in fact, they may be harmless and we have no way of knowing because no one checks. >> you went from being on the watch list and all of a sudden you were able to fly again. >> yes, this summer my lawyer said - it's been three and a half years. and she said, "you need to try to fly." we attempted to fly in july. i flew in no problems and printed my boarding pass from the house.
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it seemed like i went from the worst fly list to no list. >> not having a clue as to why that happened? >> no clue at all. >> what happens to someone that goes to the airport and told they can't fly because they are on a watch list. there's limited recourse. >> they can submit a request to an agency to check its records and see what it thinks. in response they get a letter saying, "we have checking our records and if there was an error we have corrected it." but you never find out. >> is there evidence that this was successful at terrorists. >> not that we know of. so far all of the government audits and internal reports, which haven't been many looked at the extent to which agencies
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hollowed their own rules in making the watch lists, which is not always. there hasn't been audits and checks so see how effective lass the lift been. >> thank you both for joining us and talking about it. i hope you keep us posted on the lawsuit and where things go. >> thank you. >> from concerns about terrorism to health. katie couric apologised for a segment on her sindh kated show about the hvp vaccine. she wrote a lengthy apology in the "the huffington post" saying in part: >> still, there is new evidence that only one-third of teen girls have been fully vaccinated
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against h.p.v. despite 79% of americans having the human papilloma virus which can cause a variety of cancers in women and men. are there valid concerns about this vaccine and others. dr march -- mallika marshall is a medical contributor to katie. the h.p.v. vaccines are less than a decade old. i had my daughter vaccinated because i thought the science was pretty safe. >> yes, we are sure that the vaccine is a safe one. issues were raised a few years ago about the vaccine. there were reports that children, girls, were having side effects, possibly dying. there was an independent group of scientists and doctors with no financial interests in h.p.v. vaccine, who reviewed a lot of data. hundreds of millions of doses
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had been administered. there was no evidence to suggest there was anything about the vaccine making it any more dangerous. don't take it from me. this is the c.b.c., american college of paediatrics, ginocology, and we believe it is safe, one that kids should get. >> there are side effects from a lot of different things and other vaccines may have bad reactions. we heard the stories later on. in the end it causes a long list of the cancers. dangers. >> you got it. you mentioned 79 million americans affected. common std in the country, and we know that strains of hpd have been linked to cervical cancer m men and women, certain genital
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cancers and genital warts, which are difficult to treat. speaking specifically about it serve call cancer in women, 12,000 are diagnosed with the disease. 4,000 women die from it. a lot of people say, "we have the pap smear and h.p.v. testing and if you identify the cancer early you can treat and cure it. >> that's true. pap fears are not foolproof. this is a way that we can actually prevent cancer. we don't have a lot of ways to do that. this can prevent cancer. >> the other big conversation about vaccines over the past decade or so is whether the mmr vaccine for mumps, myselfles or rooubel -- measles or rubblea, whether that can cause problems.
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autism. >> that's. there's no connection between mmr or those that contain a mercury preservative, that they cause autism. if you speak to autism experts, they are frustrated when the issue is raised. they want resources and time and energy to be spent on finding the cause or on what will likely be many causes of autism, instead of wasting time looking at vaccine s. a lot of people remain to be convinced. the c.b.c. says it's the worst year for measles in a dak aid because of people refusing to vak sinuate children. am old enough to have measles, and my brother had mumps - you do not want these. >> measles is a serious illness.
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parents that make the decision not to vak sinuate against measles or anything, are actually making the decision for other children as well. >> a family goes overseas and confrackt myselfles, they come back to the states, and the little baby next door all of a sudden gets it and is hospitalized. there's a notion of hurt immunity. where if you get a large enough segment vaccinated that you are protecting society. now you see pockets of disease cropping up. you're right, many of us have not seen kids walking around with myselfles or polio. not only are they dangerous, not only can they maim children, they can kill. it's important that parents get the kids immune ice. >> given the success that vaccines have had in eradicating small
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pom, measles and mumps, is complacent. >> yes, i think we have gotten complacent. those of us that are not particularly old again haven't seen a lot of illnesses. we forget the iron lungs that used to keep kids with polio alive. we need to remember that millions of children have been affected. vaccines are an incredible success. to prevent diseases that killed millions is unbelievable. for us to take a step backwards is a shame. please go out and get the kids evacuated. thank you for joining us. >> time to see what is trending on the website. aregawi. >>
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canada and russia are fighting over the north pole. they are working to show that the seabed is part of continental shelf. russia claimed it, saying it's port part of the continental shelf it controls denmark, norway and the u.s. wants to claim it. the region contains 30% of undo undiscovered national gas and wealth. now to your feedback: >> back to you. thanks. >> straight ahead - colorado the first state to make pot use legal for casual users. the den very post rolled the
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news. we have the guy who filled it. a corporation tries to silence a customer over a phone. the little guy may be winning. one in six don't have access to clean water. a discovery could help with the problem except for one issue. we'll tell you what it is coming up.
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we are going after it. we have hired. we are in the process of hiring a pot critic. we are going to be writing how pot has changed art culture every day life in denver and colorado. you are looking for a pot critic. you have covered marijuana, and there has been a lot of criticism. bill o'reilly accused the post of promoting intoxication. let's listen to that. >> the only reason to use weed outside of a medical situation is to intoxicate yourself. that can lead to dui, use of harder drugs. is this a laughing matter? >> doesn't he have a point. is it one thing to cover the new industry of the marge marijuana, and the legalisation of a drug. is it taking it a step too far to have a critic? >> we don't think so. if marijuana is legal, it's no
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different to writing about beer from a critical perspective which we do in the rocky mountain state. we write about wine and other things. bill o'reilly made the point that restaurants don't get you intoxicated. a good percentages of your bill is dedicated to wipe, a cocktail or a drink. >> moving on to serious topics that you'll cover - tax revenue is a good story, because there'll be a tonne of tack on recreational marijuana. you have all sorts of taxes coming in on this, and estimates are $33.5 million will come into colorado state coffers, and it could be double that in 2015. >> estimates are all over the place. now it is looking like it could be a significant amount of money. i believe last year about
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5 million was raised on medicinal marijuana, and then, now, of course it looks like significantly more. taxes are 20% more on the sales of recreational marijuana. are they higher than on alcohol and cigarettes. >> significantly. i'm not sure the exact tax amount on commol or cigarettes. when you look at the tax rate for recreational marijuana, it's 25%, possibly a bit more. >> despite the taxes, is the belief that because the drug will be legal to buy at the stores, that it will bring down the cost. is it there a concern if it brings down the cost, that it will increase usage. >> i don't know that there's any concerns about that. i know some people are wondering if it will decrease the black market or increase the black market. there's a lot of people who are eagerly awaiting the statistics.
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and looking into that and seeing what happens once we get a year, two years into this new law, which is brand new territory. even though uruguay had a big vote and it looks like it's legal. we are going to be the first place in the world to have it sold legally in shops on 1 january. it's a whole new world out here. >> the majority of americans, according to polls, favour legalizing marijuana. legal marijuana is $100 billion. if you look at the revenue that colorado is expecting. isn't it likely that other states will jump on board. you have to wonder. we are hearing rumblings on the street about illinois and
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organ. i was in illinois over the weekend. it seems like there's so much behind the mvt. how har along will it be before it's afl are, and then will the tide keep rolling or will it come to a slow stop. i think we are friday in seeing that but now the momentum is going to colorado. from the observations, it's not stopping soon. you. >> viewer michael says, "there's marijuana critics, how is this smoker.". >> well, what we are looking for in this critic is someone who can talk about it from an intelligent creative colourful perspective but nail down the
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nuances of the drug and get the expertise, you know, a certain i am not of history is what we are expecting. we are not looking or an average casual smoker, but somebody who knows what he or she is talking about and also somebody who is based in colorado. i sent out letters today to 12 individuals about getting sample reviews from them, which will most likely publish and it's exciting to get the ball rolling on the pot critic position after talking about it for so long >> your paper "the denver post" reported that since legalisation pot problems in colorado schools have increased, that a police officer said that since the law came into play middle schoolkids showed up with a half ounce of problem? >> it sounds like it. i know another issue that came
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up is pot sneaking across staid boreders. if you buy the pot in colorado, you are not supposed to take it out of state. that's been an interesting thing that came about interestingly. we had a front-page storey about how some of the authorities in kansas and wi oeming, utah, new next -- wyoming, utah, new mexico are finding the pot, talking to the kids in the communities - when i say kids, i'm saying 21 and up. but they say they are after the colorado kush, the colorado kind. it's better than the stuff on their home turf. there are issues that law enforcement needs to be concerned about. seems like they are, especially with january 1st coming up. >> i suspect there'll be a lot of issues and stories, and your job as the marijuana editor will be a busy one. thanks for your time. appreciate you joining us. >> thank you so much.
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>> straight ahead. clean water is an issue for a billion people. why is one fix proving hard to come by despite a major discovery. a customer takes on a major corporation. why the little guy may have forced the business giant into a no-win situation. most of the students are black or latino, some with an undocumented parent. none were born with a silver spoon in their house.
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98% qualify for free or reduced price launches. >> the majority of them face a challenge. it may not be their skin colour. it may be socioeconomic status. it may be being homeless. >> the children are quick to connect nelson mandela. >> i heard that he was, r martin luther king in another state. ms klieforth says her students are bringing their personal experiences to the classroom. >> the kids tell stories. i walked into a store and felt like people treated me differently. it. >> it's cool. what he did - he didn't came, if >> an al jazeera america exclusive... former president jimmy carter reflects on the life and legacy of nelson mandela.
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>> that spirit of nelson mandela is embedded deeply in the heart and soul of the south africans... >> they worked side by side for freedom, now president carter talks about mandela's global impact. a revealing interview you won't see anywhere else. >> i've never heard him say, that he was grateful to the united states... >> talk to al jazeera with jimmy carter only on al jazeera america today's data dive takes a dive into an untapped reserve of fresh water that could solve a host of problems if only we could get to it. australian scientists say they
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found about 120,000 cubic miles of water underneath the ocean floor all around the world. how much is that? the lead author is 100 times the amount extracted from the sub-surface. researchers inadvertently discovered the water whilst looking for oil and gas. much of the world doesn't have clean water, so it could have huge implications. high levels of salt make less than one% of the water drinkable. converting it to normal water makes it prohibitive. >> the problem is getting worse. the united nations estimates by 2030 half the world's population lives in areas of high stress. the new reserve could make is feasible. not that simple.
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because it's beneath the ocean floor it makes it difficult to extract. if salt water leaks in during the drilling process it could contaminate the reserve. if we do get to the reserve, it wouldn't be a long-term solution because it is a nonrenewable source. it's a good reminder that we should conserve water. coming up from water to fire. a customer rages against his every sunday night al jazeera america brings you conversations you won't find anywhere else. >> you're listening because you want to see whats going to happen. >> get your damn education. >> talk to al jazeera. only on al jazeera america. >> oh my!
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>> samsung galaxy s 4 phones are on fire, but not always in a good way. one customer, richard wygand said his phone caught fire whilst charging. he tried to get samsung to give him a new one. they asked richard wygand to show proof, and he did with a youtube video. the company agreed to replace
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the phone, only if he signed an agreement pledging to take down the youtube video and not to speak publicly about the problem. he posted another form in april. >> do you know how many forms i had to sign when the red ring death happened? none. samsung are trying to bandage it and keep people quiet. >> does he have a case. is the customer having a case. richard wygand is the man with the problematic phone. how do you feel about this? >> i was definite will a little irritated. to hear myself it was like, "oh, man, richard." >> samsung responded officially saying: "samsung takes security of customers safely. our samsung canada team is in touch with the customer and is investigating the issue." what's the latest in your negotiations?
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>> i can 100% say yes, they did contact us. the emails was well put. they didn't try to bring up documentation, and in the end we are coming to negotiations. i sent them an email back. >> they have covered to give you the phone and what exactly do you want from them. what do you ultimately want from the company? >> i would like to actually sit down and have an interview with representative from samsung. it may be too much, but i think by sitting down and actually getting a chance to talk with them, not only would it benefit them, but me. i'd like to know where they came up with coming tout the form to send it to me. i would like, so it's not such an attack now. right now everyone is attacking samsung. i can't get over the fact that it just came out of thin air. i have family members with their phones, and i would love to be
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ab to get their insight. >> people are fascinated by this. a lot of people watched your youtube postings because you are corporation. what do you say about the concern if they fix your problem, the company says they are fixing your problem, why don't you take down the video. >> you know what, i think the video needs to stay up. the reason why is it needs to show that bullies don't only exist in schools. major corporations are bullying people. i think it's a big thing. it's a step, right. it's a step in the right direction to show that companies can't do this any more. the internet is out. we have youtube now, and it's not that hard. we have read it. i am sure you have seen some. sources. it's exploded faster than i took in. when i heard the news, my heart
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pounded out of my chest. i was grabbing my heart, it was like, "what did i do?", were you you? >> yes, i kast was. i was quite - do you know what - if they asked me kindly tsks all the other stuff, including the contract. franco said at best, box me up, throw me in the corner and forget the issue happened. >> there has been cases of phones bursting into flames. a house of a man burnt down. you have put up other stories from other users. >> yes, i have. i had a mother contact me how she's threatened with her two children. it was the s3, she's been through three s 3s. she was with sprint in the states. there was a lot of people from
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korea messaging me and thanking me for coming out. they've been telling me their experiences. some of them make you feel good inside that you did something about it. you did something they couldn't or chose not to. >> you made that first video showing the phone damage. it made you so angry that you had to sign these things and they were trying to silence you, it drove you to make the second video, were you got so angry and criticised the company. >> i did, you know what. i found the need to do that, i want to stop it before it begins and all the corporations do this. i never had to do this before. i never want to have to see the letter again when i have to go in for warranty. we know the prices of the phones, but i don't think it's right to sign forms of secrecy and silence when in the end we are warning people. >> you
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praise apple in the video, but sometimes they have done the same thing when they agree to replace things. do you see a big difference. >> do you know what. it varies per customer. i had a greats experience. always have the occasion where you have a representative. you can't judge a company by a representative. it was the fact they went into the samsung store. he couldn't do anything about it. they put me through to a phone number, then an email where i had to upload images. when i had an iphone i took it in, i handed it to them. they went out the back and came back. am i per iphone. absolutely not. i had a 5s before a samsung s3 and 4.
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i switched because my battery died quickly, so show people that i'm not pure apple, i'm not. i got my family into samsung. >> i want to get in one final question. your videos got a million and a half views at this point. have you benefitted or made money off the videos. >> i cannot lie. i have earnt a little. not as much as some think. what it comes down to is it shows me that humanity took to the video, and people cared. >> that means more to me than money. it goes towards making a phone. it won't go to anything bad. >> i look forward to the video when you resolve this all. we appreciate you for joining us. the show may be over, but the conversation continues on the website.
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