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diahann carroll has her thoughts. >> we must shift our counterterrorism strategy. to more fefg it's not just one person who's going to change it all. it's the overall. >> maya angelou has died. >> she is against all the odds. >> i had something to do in this world. >> after months of accusations of feeble leadership and his handling of international crises and conflicts, president obama gave the commencement speech at west point university. when national security demanded it working through multilateral institutions and in concert with allies, provided a force
multiplier that made america stronger particularly in response to russia's meddling if ukraine. the president also said that terrorism remained the most direct threat to u.s. and abroad. and while al qaeda's central leadership had been decimated, its decentralized strategies required new resources to defeat. >> up to $5 billion which will allow us to train build capacity and facilitate partner-countries on the front lines. >> the president also proclaimed his belief in american exceptionalism and leadership insisting in sponges to his critics -- in response to his critics that america had rarely been stronger in relation to the rest of the world. >> our military has no peer. the odds of a direct threat against us by any nation do not come close to the dangers we faced during the cold war. >> for more i'm joined from
washington, d.c. by james jeffrey, presently a fellow at the washington institute. and james dicky. ambassador i'll hear from you first. did you hear anything new from the president's speech, which in effect really sounded mostly like new money for old allies. >> well, it's -- i'm very happy he took that decision. in addition, he did say that he would up the amount of military assistance to syrian rebels and do it through the u.s. military rather than as we assume intelligence agencies. and you have to take this in context with his semi positive decision to keep troops longer in afghanistan. what has become the standard president obama line how he looks at the world and how he looks at america's role in it i
think. >> we have talked many times about al qaeda's expanded diffusion around the world and how that has made it stronger in the world. it was all about getting rid of the central leadership and notful about the affiliates. you just wrote a piece entitled, america's epic yemen fail. hunting down with this. >> whether we're talking about boko haram in nigeria or al qaeda in yemen, in north africa. all of them feel that they have the initiative right now, the united states doesn't have the commitment to send in troops to stop them which is true which is what obama is saying. we are not going to be sending in troops to stop them. i think he is right about that but the problem is that he can't get on message enough to make it
clear that the united states really is determined to stop these groups over time. >> and that message is important ambassador. the washington post came out with a brutal editorial on wednesday calling president obama's foreign policy consistently bad, this was after the afghanistan pull back that you referred to. they mentioned the pull back from iraq, the decision to not intervene militarily in syria. not leaving any troops in libya to help out. how do you see it? >> i agree basically with the washington post editorial. taken as a system, taken as a series of decisions, they are worrisome because we have threats in the world that are even greater than al qaeda. al qaeda needs to be combated. i don't see it quite the way he does. i do see the growing power of russia, the growing power of
china, the continued mess in the middle east, taken together as an even greater be existential threl tthreat to us. >> what obama understands very well is the american people were fed up with wars. they would be happier if we had gotten out of iraq sooner, afghanistan sooner. obama argues you can't be isolationist in today's world but american troops are not going to fix everything, sometimes other countries are going to help us do it or they're going to have to do it themselves. >> he seems to be taking a middle ground. >> that is the problem. that's the leadership problem and that is that people don't want to listen to middle ground. they want to be inspired by action or retreat from action. we don't want to adjust things as circumstances require which is pretty much what he is saying. >> ambassador you brought up the multilamultilateral issue.
president obama said if we don't lead nobody else will. but most of his talk was about collective action, multilateral action. what is america's role here? >> that's all good and as chris said we do have a problem with the american people. i don't think it's as serious as it was when we had hundreds of thousands in iraq without a known mission. we do have to work with allies. bill clinton did that. if we are working for a middle ground i would take bill clinton not barack obama. he worked with the u.n. repeatedly. desert fox, kosovo, bosnia. they weren't at the level of afghanistan or iraq. they were mobilizing the community, it's all or nothing it's either i give you iraq or i'm going to mobilize people in the u.n. to issue declarations and pass resolutions. >> well, the ambassador is right of course about the clinton
administration but the important thing to remember is that all those actions were taken by clinton before iraq and before afghanistan and before the exhaustion that the people feel about these wars now. >> strongly about the president and how he is projecting weakness rather than strength. senator bob corker says when you see putin doing the things he's doing when you see china stepping out and doing the things they're doing, is it because they see a president that they don't believe will back up statements with actions. chris. >> the republicans never saw a tax they didn't hate, and a war they didn't like. i think that's just more of the same. they don't even say how are you going opay for it? i mean are they going to back a $5 billion fund to fight terrorism? i doubt it. even though war in iraq cost $2.5 billion a week. no, i don't think these kinds of
political sniping is going to help. but the problem lies with obama. he needs to find a way to inspire the american people and a narrative that people believe in not just a situational response to events. >> one positive narrative ambassador was about ukraine, saying the multilateral efforts there have worked and that they have improved the situation there. do you agree? >> absolutely. but, and there's always a but with this administration. taking the decision to pull all of our troops out of afghanistan in two years regardless of the situation will be seen by putin as another example that regardless of where the president will not see things through if there's any political pressure or need to use the military. he will apply that to the situation in the baltics and elsewhere in nato's eastern borders i fear. well done in ukraine but it has to be put in global perspective. >> do you think russia or china
ambassador will rethink things? >> i think they will find themselves, they will think that the americans are still very reluctantly to use military force. again you cited american exhaustion. i'm exhausted by iraq and afghanistan. i and my family have spent seven years there. but the american people are exhausted by stupid long term commitments of hundreds of thousands of troops without any particular mission and with a lot of casualties. they didn't seem to be exhausted whether obama bend into libya. i don't think they would have been exhausted going into syria. >> lot of latinos concerned about where obama is for the many issues in latin america. in the words of an iraq war veteran, in his childhood as the son of a lieutenant colonel highly decorated vietnam war
veteran, soldiers are expendable in war and they are expendable and forgotten when they return. colby bezell wrote a piece for the new york times, thank you for being expendable. he has also frequently written for esquire. center stage for whole country you said it didn't surprise you one bit because you have had to deal with these things your whole life. if this is common knowledge with our military, something going on forever, why did it take this scandal to bring light to it? >> we don't care about our veterans. we kind of want them out of sight out of mind. and you know, we want them for the welcome home hero ceremony but we kind of forget and don't really care about what happens once the ceremony is over. >> as this is an important
commitment to our veterans and when you see what's going on it's really just horrifying. and you write that you thought it was a miracle that you survived iraq and you think it's a miracle you survived the va. because you had suicidal thoughts when you returned and you ran into a brick wall trying to get help from the va. >> you know several times i was at a really low dark point at my life. i was at a point where i needed too go down to the va -- to do down to the va and get help. every time i made the call, they put you on hold or transfer you to the wrong person. anyways when they finally get you through, it's almost two months for an appointment to see someone. whenever i say is that the soonest you could see me they say yeah that's the soonest they explain to me they have all these soldiers coming back from the war getting out flooding the va system and they just don't
have the people to take care of all the new veterans that are enrolling in the va for help. >> you said you were drinking you had a cup of coffee and the reaction you got from the doctor was incredible. >> yes, i remember that time. i had a friend that was like hey colby you need to go down to the va, maybe they can help you. from previous experiences i knew not ocall the va, they'll just put you on hold. i went to the emergency room, saw somebody, had a cub of coffee, the lady was like, how much coffee did you drink in a day, i was thinking, what does this have to do with anything? i said maybe a pot, two pots, she told me to cut down on my coffee and come back in a month or so and see how i feel. i'm like lady, i'm having weird thoughts about maybe jumping off
a bridge or something. i need some medication, some antianxiety medication, something p. she was telling me the story how they would prescribe pills, and a lot of people would get looked on pills, they were cutting back on giving people pills. i'm like you got to be kidding me. i walked out of the vaiz, worse than what i was when i entered. i had good experienced with the va but that was one point i was like, you got to be kidding me. >> you do say if you want to get attention from the va that really the only hope to get it quickly is to go to the emergency room? >> yes, that's my advice to all veterans. if you are in bad shape, don't even bother calling them. just go down there. >> your experience with the va began long before your return,
your experience with the vaiz, you saw as a child how inefficient it could be when you needed to be treated then. >> my experiences with the va is waiting in the lobby hours and hours and hours. my dad doesn't like waiting in the lobby either you know, and he wants me to -- one story i had i was sick and the doctor asked me how bad are you on a scale of 1 to 10, i don't know 6 or 7. put my name on the list, and my dad says you got to tell them you are at least 10 or 12. we sat around all day waiting to be seen. >> you said this scandal may be the best thing that ever happens to our veterans. are you really hopeful that this could finally be what it takes to get our veterans the care they need? >> i don't know if i'm hopeful but i hope this raises hell and
gets people angry and pissed off. it's pretty pathetic if you are in really bad shape and you go down to the va for help, they tell you we can't help you for a couple of months, eight or ten weeks. we ask a lot for our soldiers. they go out there multiple deployments they come back, i think we owe it to them to make sure they get treated, you know? >> we certainly do and i hope that we can be hopeful and something can be done. colby bezel thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> "consider this" will be right back. back. >> the dna testing shows that these are not his hairs >> unreliable forensics >> the problem the bureaus got is they fail, it's a big, big deal... >> convicted of unspeakable crimes did flawed lab work take away their freedom? >> i was 18 when i went in... when i came out i was 50... you don't get it back... >> shocking truths revealed
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>> the massing murder as santa barbara and the killer's miss on nis tick rants, the yes all edward snowden misogynistic rants, too many men accept. meanwhile a brown university student has started what she says is her own fight for justice so more women won't have to suffer what she says she went through at the school. lena sclove has filed two lawsuits against brown, in a sexual assault case she pressed against a student last summer. she says she suffered a violent
injury when a student she had relationship with with got physical after she said no to sex. his punishment, a year's suspension. i'm joined by olivia nusy. olivia, great to have you with us. before we talk about the brown situation, i want to talk about what happened in santa barbara, the yes all women hashtag that has come out. this has just exploded on the internet, more than a million tweets in a matter of hours. women sharing all sorts of experiences how they have been victimized from the workforce to
schools. >> other woam women's women havr stories. it's difficult if it's a very tragic thing that sparks this movement, it's an important discussion to be having and i'm glad it's happening. >> you quote kristin gillibrand. the senator also said, it should not be the cost of a college education to get raped. again, why have done a lot on campus sexual assault on this show. reading your article on the brown case was that there is no obligation to report this to law enforcement. >> i think that's what's loss on many -- lost on many people. people think if you report a crime to the college this has to go to the police, that's what
makes sense frankly. unless the state you're in requires felonies to be reported to police, certainly under title ix and the cleary act, the two laws that pertain to this as you know. >> a significant felony, not being treated as other felonies. >> you wouldn't have a med student doing an autopsy. but students sit on a panel at a hearing and there's a weird investigation process where there's really -- there's no rape kit done in most cases. it is not how we think of a real investigation being done unfortunately and victims are suffering from this and so are the accused in many cases. >> victims should have a right to report it to the college and say i don't want it reported to police but maybe the victim can opt-out of reporting it to the police but the college should
have an affirmative obligation unless the victim opts out. >> what's clear in my reporting is it's necessary for victims to be told when they first get oschool, before they're victims, when you first get to college that you need to tell students that they have the option to go to police to report a crime like this because no matter what you are not going to get real justice through a university system. >> the estimates are that one in five women students are raped, and in this case lena did not report this unless 'til days after this happened. >> lena actually told me she decided to use the university system to try and get justice. >> it took her days to do that. >> it took her days to do that. it is common when you are victimized that way. it took her days to figure out what she wanted to do. she chose not to go to the police, she chose to get justice
through the university system and she will say it definitely did not help her. >> she says i would be called a liar a drunk a slut. things she was considering to go and report this. the white house had a task force that came up with all sorts of recommendations about what college should do in order to improve the situation. 55 universities are being investigated how they are -- >> it might be 56. lena has filed two actions against the college. people are arguing people are sweeping these things under the rug, because it doesn't look good for the school to have a high percentage of rapes reported. but i was in a panel that senator mccasskell did. if a school has a low rate of
reported rapes, that is actually a bad sign, they are probably not doing their job with title ix. >> a couple more questions. the panel at brown did find some pretty serious violations. you know. and then, the student only got a two year suspension that was reduced to a one year suspension. >> right. >> you read this and you sort of think, how can this be possible. >> right, the panel allegedly at a took a recommendation, he was given a one-year suspension. that's the worst that could happen to someone in the university system. there is no way they could give someone jail time. people are not told in advance, if you go through university system, that's as bad as it is going to be for the accused. >> the school does face serious
consequences. sexual rape, i'm not saying that's the case here but if that happens, that person can suffer tremendously too and have tremendous consequences. so i guess the question is should it simply always go to law enforcement so there is a fair airing-out of these issues in any particular case? >> yes i think to your point about the accused, they are being -- they cannot be found guilty of rape in the university system, but a lot of people guilty of sexual assault are called rapists and it is not fair for them to be called by that name without being convicted. under title ix under the cleary act, if students want justice they need to go to law enforcement. >> there are some on capitol hill to improve matters across the country. let's hope some action gets done. it just leaves you wondering how
in the world could this be possible. olivia thank you for being with us. >> thank you very much. >> the legal battle in florida, the questions at the heart of that struggle, do kids do better when they learn in single sex classrooms or do both do better when they learn in coed classes? hillsborough school district florida's second largest because it operates some single sex classrooms. the aclu claims that quote by training teachers that boys and girls learn differently and teaching girls and boys differently the district is using stereotypes that are harmful for all students. i'm joined by janet hyde, director of the center for research on gender and women at the university of wisconsin. she recently co-authored ang article that compared affects
ever education on students. your study is a metaanalysis, a study of studies that included more than amillion and a half kids and you found there was no advantage to single sex education. >> that's right. we had data from over 1.6 million students k-12. we didn't look at college or preschool. and these studies, i should say for listeners who aren't familiar, metaanalysis is just a statistical technique used widely in medicine and psychology, where we have multiple studies of the same question. we used that to put together all the studies that had compared kids in single-sex schooling and co-educational schooling worldwide. we found no advantages to single sex schooling, for verbal performance, math attitudes, test scores and so on. so there just weren't any
advantages. >> where do we get to this conventional wisdom that girls in particular benefit from single sex schooling because studies have argued that and we've seen tv hidden cameras showing that boys are more aggressive and louder forcing the teacher to pay more attention to them than girls. is there nothing to that? >> what we need to do is improve co-education, i think we have ways of doing that to get boys and girls working better, more cooperatively. that said, there are terrific problems in single sex classrooms. sometime people talk about boys being distracted by girls. if you've everyone been in an -- ever been in a boy's sports classroom they poke they prod and they bump. >> i certainly know how crazy
boys can be in a classroom you're right. >> exactly, exactly. >> there is a national association for single sex public television that list studies that support advantages to single sex education saying it actually breaks down the stereotype. and another study showing south korean boys around girls would likely go to college than those that went to coed schools, anything there? >> as studies that are listed on the naspe website are cherry picked studies. we accessor characterize this bt goes through, i have a confound between quality of the students to quality of the subject.
the girls are elite they come from wealthy families and so they're going to succeed, sure but it's not a fair comparison. so we took quality into account. >> what do you say to the hillsborough, one had gotten six years of cs and now it has an a. another school that had gotten cs ands now has a b. >> well first of all they didn't randomlrandomly assign kids, wet know anything. we only know there was a change. often there are noferlt effects, everybody gets buzzed by some new phenomenon. i'd like to know whether five years from now they will still be showing the best advantage. i'm all for great teachers, i come from a teaching family. but they get them buzzed for
this whole program and they can find some advantages for a small amount of time. i don't think they will last. >> how about extra-curriculars? there has been talk or studies about how girls wind up having fewer leadership positions when they're in coed schools even proportionately, that more boys end up being leaders in schools, in coed schools? >> well, i think that those trends have largely reversed themselves in the last ten years. sometimes i think that we're fighting battles about what was happening to girls in the 1960s. the fact is that the majority of high school valedictorians are girls today, the fact is that more girls than boys go to college these days. girls are thriving. they're getting better grades than boys. so i don't really worry about girls in co-educational schools. i went to one myself if we are
trading on anecdotes. i think it was wonderful i went to a co-educational school and it was wonderful for me. >> it's a fascinating topic. janet hyde, thank you, it was wonderful. we'll be back with more of "consider this." a it's a new approach to journalism. this is an opportunity for americans to learn something. we need to know what's going on around the world. we need to know what's going on in our back yard and i think al jazeera does just that.
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>> fewer debates rouse morepassn gun control. the second amendment 60ss of a single convoluted sentence. a well regulated militia, being secure for state the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. did the framers of the constitution intend that to mean, every individual has the right to own a gun or has politics twisted the intention of our forefathers. michael walton, good to have you with us. you really do a boygraphy of the second amendment, you look at it through the history, from the beginning, from its origination, at a time when every white male between 16 and 60 had to have a gun and was automatically a member of the militia. back then there was no discussion or issue about whether there should be an individual issue to bear arms.
there. >> right, you're exactly right. this is very controversial. the way we look at the second amendment has changed over time. and the original founders the way they wrote it and looked at it was from a world that's almost impossible for us to imagine. as you say every single white man was required by law to own a gun and to bring it into their militia service. and the amendment was written because they were worried, some people were worried that the new united states government as it was being created, would threaten tyranny and would threaten the 13 state militias. >> it was most about each state having its militia. and about each government being titran cal.
tyrannical. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. does it protect the individual right or the militia? in a way it's both. to protect the individual right to have a gun to fulfill a duty to serve in the militia. the question is the militias vanished pretty soon after that. the reality is over time there were a lot of guns, a lot of people had guns and throughout america's history there were gun laws. gun rights and gun laws went hand in hand, dodge city, the great frontier town, there was a sign placed in the middle of the town, welcome to dodge city, firearms prohibited. even this gives you an unfettered right to a gun, something people advanced. >> you are pretty much looking at the 200 years after the second amendment and you say really there wasn't much discussion. >> it was an amazing thing. the supreme court didn't rule that the second amendment gives you an individual right to a gun
until 2008. that was the first time. it ruled four times before otherwise but there weren't thousands of cases. it wasn't something that people didn't think was all that important. when the first federal gun law was being debated in the 1930s the national rifle association testified about it. testified in support of it. and it was asked what do you think about the constitution, do you think there's any constitutional problem? and they said we haven't given that question any thought. it's a very different time. >> that all changed. >> it's changed for sure. civil war officers were worried that the union troops had shown poor marksmanship. it was to train military to shoot. it was formed as a sportsman's organization to protect hunters'
interests. got taken over by what's referred as the revolt in cincinnati. a new, very activist group took over the organization put in new leadership and it became a constitutional crusade about the second amendment and against all gun laws as we know. >> and ironically back then, chief justice berger who was a conservative, referred to individual rights to own guns as a fraud. but that changed as the nra started lobbying and this became much more of a discussion in the public forum. and then antonin scalia wrote his opinion in the heller opinion in 2008, and that really changed everything. >> the whole supreme court was responding to a very textbook
legal campaign waged by the nra and other gun rights supporters starting in the 1970s to change the way we saw this provision, to change constitutional law. they started actually with scholarship. there were a lot of people who went back and looked at the founding era and thought, no no, this is really an individual right. not what you think, they moved public opinion. public opinion's shifted and now it's the common view and then eventually the supreme court. >> the ship rarely gets turned around once the supreme court establishes a right. so now, at this point, there has been a bunch of efforts to restrict gun rights within the supreme court's decision. is that what we'll see? again you see all sorts of legislatures taking actions but courts some deciding some are constitutional and some aren't. seems like we're on a long back and forth on this.
>> you know, alexis de toqueville, said this will end up in a lawsuit. that was in the 1800s. the begun rights forces are on the march, you have laws, new laws that allow people to carry weapons. in georgia, recently, for example, there's a law that makes it so you can carry a gun just about anywhere. on the other hand, the supreme court ruled like all rights, there could be limitations. not everybody can carry a gun at every time. and dozens of courts, dozens of federal courts all over the country have considered some of these issues since the heller case, since 2008. and overwhelmingly, they have upheld the existing gun laws. they've said that yes, there's a right. but there's also common sense limitations. so it may well be that maybe the heller case did gun control
forces a favor by sort of drawing a line and saying, you know what, the gun-grabbers as they might call them, they're not coming to take your guns. but what are the rules? who can have a gun? how can we make sure that there's a safety, but the supreme court hasn't spoken again. it's going to wind up being debated most likely at the highest level in the next couple of years. >> of course the framers who are great writers didn't do a good job there. >> they did us no favors on the commas and punctuation this time. >> michael, thank you, second amendment, a biography. "consider this" will be right back. first hand reporting from across the country and real news keeping you up to date. the big stories of the day,
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>> al jazeera america. >> when ag >> when a poet dies, something hopeful in the national psyche dies. those words written by maya angelou about a friend could have been written about her. one of america's greatest poa et cetera. shpoets.angelou's life, to becof the most influential women of the last 50 years was as varied as it was accomplished. poet, novelist, ak tris sing are dancer professor, historian, even the first black streetcar
are conductor in san francisco. her story, i know why the caged bird sings, grappled about with issues of racism and rape, brought her worldwide acclaim acclaim.bill clinton's inaugur inaugural. >> she posted her last public thoughts on twitter last friday they read, "listen to yourself and in that quiteude you might hear the voice of god. joining us from los angeles is a long time friend and collaborator of maya angelou, diahann carroll. and a tv film written by
angelou, sister, sister. it must be a terribly sad day for you as it is for many americans. you were per friend, you worked with her on stage, and you played her mother on "i know why the caged bird sings." what will you remember about her most? >> i would think it would be her humanity and her courage. if she believed in something, don't argue, she has to take it through life through friends through each experience until, until it is exactly as she sees it in front of the rest of us. she presents it to us. the first time i saw maya was here, really. in i think it was called yeah littlyelittle club, in beverly ,
it held 15, 20 people. but i saw she was going to be there. and i went and i stood in the back really nervous about how this creature was going to find her path in this part of california. and the music started and she came through the door, this tall, magnificent woman, no shoes, walked to the stage with, i think, drums, i would say drums. and she turned and she faced us, and we were absolutely in the palm of her hand for the next, oh, two hours. some songs, some story, some -- she was incredible. >> one of the things people forget about her because of all her other be accomplishments was that she was a terrific
entertainer, she was a song writer, she played kunta kinte's grandmother in the television series roots. she won six grammies, she won a tony, what an incredible life. >> her presence was a meaning unto itself. when she walked into the room, it wasn't necessary for her to do anything. you would still turn. i was doing something a few years ago in canada, i received a message from her that a car would pick me up at a certain time that i should come to this place, so i did, i did exactly as she told me to do. and she came out and she took me by the hand, took me into the little studio much like this, we talked about mother hood,
children, men, life and i still don't know exactly where i was, we hugged and she ar put me bacn the car. but the driver said, ms. angelou, i trusted her completely. >> in one wonderful moment, let's take a look at it, late in her life came from the oprah winfrey show where they played a clip of her performing in 1952. >> ms. calypso herself, maya angelou. ♪ loy loy loy mo and jo run the
can store, from behind the door ♪ >> it's great to watch her face diahann. as she watched that. she had such an impact on african american writers. in the '70s and '80s. tony morrison andallist walk -- and alice walker. >> she loved to pull people into her ring of greatness and she was very happy for those who acknowledged that she was the leader of the pack. and we all became kind of a sisterhood. there was someone over there in san francisco and one in florida. we could call each other and say you know i'm a friend of maya's
and that's all we needed to hear. >> she endured a really rough life when she was young, hardship pain poverty rape as a young girl. with one of the incredible stories, for a woman with such a great voice, she didn't even speak or the years after her rapist was killed. did she ever talk to you about that? >> no. no, there was really no reason for her to talk wit about that. she always talked about things that taught you something. >> but it was part of the movie and the book. >> oh yes, yes, yes. i played her mother in the film. it was so strange playing her mother. our age difference made it very pecular. but it was a throw back really. but no, i don't ever remember hear her talk about what happened. >> a quick final word. what do you think she'd like her legacy to be? >> i think maya knows exactly what her legacy is.
she made it slowly, carefully, planned, and able to communicate, i'm so glad we had her. it would have been lovely to have had her a little longer but i'm so glad we had her. >> she wrote people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did but people will not forget how you made them feel. i doubt anyone will forget anything about maya angelou. diahann carroll, it's really an honor to have you with us. again our condolences. glad to have you with us. >> thank you very much. >> the show may be over but the conversation continues. you can find us at twitter @ajconsiderthis. we'll see you next time.
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