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>> you pick the hot topics and express your thoughts the stream, it's your chance to join the conversation only on al jazeera america >> world leaders unite against i.s.i.l. in paris as british intelligence say they have identified the masked man in the beheading videos. the growing controversy facing the n.f.l. and the calls for the commissioner to go. i'm antonio mora, and welcome to "consider this". those stories and more ahead. >> there's a clear indication that this coalition is coming together nicely. >> as the strategy intensifies
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we are ready to take whatever steps are necessary. >> the arab nations are prepared to put boots on the ground. >> women can be as radicalized as men. we don't like thinking about women in that fashion. >> it's possible if they train women they could be suicide bombers. >> north korea sentences an american citizen for 6 years hard labour. >> i'm requesting help for release. >> this is a decision for scotland to make. >> independence would not be a trial separation, it would be a painful fours. >> ray rice is said to make an appeal against suspension. >> tens of thousands of tourists have been forced into emergency distress. >> hurricane odile makes landfull. >> the vibration was intense. we begin with u.s. efforts to build a coalition to fight
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i.s.i.l. in iraq and syria as another hostage is savagely beheaded. officials from 200 countries gathered in paris to discuss what they could contribute to the effort to destroy the terrorist group. 40 nations signalled they'd cooperate, and several arab nations agreed to join the u.s. and france in conducting air strikes against i.s.i.l. >> we have countries in this region, countries outside of this region, in addition to the united states, all prepared to engage in military assistance, in strikes, if that is what it requires. >> sunday, british prime minister david cameron vowed to hunt down i.s.i.l. fighters after a video revealed the execution of british aid worker david haines, the third hostage killed in the last three weeks. the video entitled "a message to the allies of america" recollection warns against joining a coalition against i.s.i.l.
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and features the same man involved in the slaughter of two american journalists, threatening to kill another british hostage. british officials say they have positively identified the executioner, but have not released his name. >> people across the country would have been sickened by the fact this it could have been a british citizen, a british citizen that could have carried out this unspeakable act. iran's supreme leader ayatollah comeeny said they could never cooperate with a u.s.-led effort against i.s.i.s. phil ittner has beening on the conference. let's start in paris. it looks like the coalition is coming together. arab countries are coming together. there's no clear commitment on what the countries will do militarily. >> that's basically it. what we are looking at is a
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statement of intent. nothing definitive at this time. we have heard a couple of strong statements from a variety of nations, arab nations, saying everything needs to be done to counter the islamic state in the region. but it is looked upon as the first step in a process of trying to draw together what various countries are willing to do, what they can do politically, given their various constituencies, but the important thing is coming out of paris, a clear message that there are a number of nations, over 30 at this point, saying that everything needs to be done to counter the islamic state group. >> this barbaric video, the most recent one from i.s.i.l., the beheading of a british citizen bringing focus on what the u.k. will do. david cameron said he'll do what he can, but, again, he has not
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been all too clear. is that because he's facing the scotland referendum. >> certainly. the referendum is taking center stage in british politics. it has to be said, what happened over the weekend with the release of the beheading video, it shocked this nation, not least of which because it appears yet again to be an english citizen, or someone speaking with a thick english accent, who conducted the video. british intelligence is centring on that individual. they call him jihadi john in the u.k. we are getting messages from inside the british intelligence community. they are clear who that individual - who that individual is, but the trick now is, of course, finding his whereabouts. finally the beheadings. is this i.s.i.l. sending a clear message that's having an effect, because it also seems to be
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holding turkey back, because turkey is a crucial part of this, it has a huge border with syria and iraq. it could really fight i.s.i.l. more easily than anyone else. the problem is they have 49 diplomats held hostage by i.s.i.l. >> absolutely right. one of the many things that turkey faces is the fact that they have a number of their own nationals held by i.s.i.l. but turkey is deeply engrained in the situation. it's very interesting that you draw the paint that the i.s.i.l. video and beheadings are actually making people very cautious about what they do, and that's been felt here in britain and all the metrics are brought into consideration, but most nations who are concerned about i.s.i.l. ultimately say that while they are concerned about the citizens held and at risk, there's a larger issue at hand,
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and that is a growing sense of power by i.s.i.l. in the region. >> phil ittner from london, appreciate you joining us. joining us from washington d.c. is pj crowley, former secretary of state, now at the university. as we discussed with phil ittner, the arab states are signing on to the coalition. none is promising to take military action. the white house chief of staff admitted air strikes will not be enough to beat i.s.i.l. do you think it will happen, we'll see not just air strikes, but arab forces on the ground. >> it will be important to have overt military participation in a future operation. it adds to the political legitimacy in the region, of what the international community is trying to do. there are multiple dimensions to this.
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obviously there's a political dimension, military, and a vital economic dimension, trying to find ways to seal off sources of financial support, you know, for i.s.i.l. and there's a vitally important intelligence element in identifying targets on the ground, you know, in iraq, and potentially in syria. i think that may be one of those areas where you may well have regional forces on the ground to help us understand what is happening there from an intelligence perspective. in the backdrop here, you have strained relations. between iraq and many of its neighbours. none of them like the nouri al-maliki government. they'll give the haider al-abadi government a chance to demonstrate a commitment to a more inclusive form of government. the region why the states are cautious in terms of how much they'll publicly acknowledge of
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their support for iran. >> given that kind of, say, discomfort that exists among the nations in the region, one surprising development was that merch officials cautioned that air strikes have to be approved by the new government in iraq, as well as by the u.s. how much of a challenge will it be for what is still a shia-dominated iraqi government to work with the sunni countries and vice versa. >> the other interesting aspect is there appears to be conversations with some of the regional states and iraq itself, it is an encouraging sign. we'll see. i mean, we are focussed on air strikes. there's a lot more to the coalition if the objective is ultimately to end the threat that the islamic state poses to the region, and beyond. there's a lot more to this. in fact, the more decisive elements will be less about air
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strikes, and more about reclaiming lost territory. obviously on the iraqi side of the border, that burden will be - you know, most significantly borne by iraqi security forces and the kurdish peshmerga. it will be intriguing for all elements of the coalition, at what point do you move across the border into syria, where you have got very complex, you know, situation, but that is where the region is particularly unified in terms of eradicating the islamic state. >> let's talk about the elephants in the room and who weren't. one is syria. probably the biggest one, because i.s.i.l. has so much territory in syria. it has military bases and oil fields. so there's no way of dealing with i.s.i.l., without figuring out how to deal with syria.
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>> you add iran to the mix. it may be, again, that the states are going to do meaningful things. we are hesitant to talk about them publicly because any kind of regional action inside syria will leave the op tick that the beneficiaries of this will be bashar al-assad and iran on the other, sworn adversaries of the major regional players. they'll tip toe forward. perhaps iraq will be a test case of how you can cooperate, and that may well give momentum and confidence when it comes to the syrian aspect. it's very, very complex in terms of, you know, obviously under guarding all of this is the emerging split and conflict between the shia and sunnis. that is a political reality that we have to keep in mind. >> you refer to the other two elephants i want to bring up. russia was in the room.
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it was there in paris, and made noises about how the u.s. can't bomb, russia being allied, an ally of the bashar al-assad government. will we get security council approval. will we ignore it if we don't? >> that will be something that i am sure the administration will be looking for and try to figure out how to crack that nut at the united nations, in the coming days. you know, and to see if russia, on the one hand, iran on the other, two of the major backers of the bashar al-assad government, whether the emergence of i.s.i.s. changes their calculations in any way. i think at the present time, based on the statement you just made, it's highly doubtful at this point that russia will change its oppositions to meaningful military activity that would have the potential risk of doing away with the bashar al-assad government. >> iran doesn't like i.s.i.l.
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because it favors the shia government, in iran, and also - so it wants - doesn't want the threat against that government or the threat that i.s.i.l. poses to its ally. iran was not invited because the sunni arab states didn't want it there. iran makes harsh comments about never cooperating with the u.s. iran will be a problem. >> iran is a factor in syria. iran is a factor in iraq. on the one hand, as you said, the major sunni states said if iran comes to the conference, we won't. there's a difference between being part of a coalition, led by the united states. the ayatollah took that off the table, versus communication, and some sort of deconfliction because obviously iran, while it continues to support the bashar al-assad government, doesn't want to see the rise of the
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islamic state as a competitor to bashar al-assad. there's a shared - there's a shared purpose here, but not necessarily a shared path. >> it's a shame politics gets in the way. all these people in syria and iraq. pj crowley, thanks. >> my pleasure. the u.s. is busy recruiting nations to join the fight against i.s.i.l., the group is having problems recruiting women. >> it's important they come to this place, here you forbid to live among the worst of creatures. i'm joined by mia boom, professor of security studies, and author of "bombshell", a book about this topic. mia, it's great to have you on the show. the fbi reportedly confirmed
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three young women of somalia dissent from minnesota, st. paul area left the area to join i.s.i.l. one 19-year-old said she was going to a birthday shower and called her family a few days later admitting she was in syria. last week shannon connell from colorado pleaded guilty, she was engaged to an i.s.i.l. terrorist, a guy met online. given the horrors, why are young american women leaving home to join the terrorists. >> i.s.i.l. has two different kinds of propaganda. there's one version where we see james foley or steven sotloff beheaded. they produce high-end glossy videos where they almost provide a disney like version of whether it's like to live in the caliphate. i think some of the american
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women are attracted to the notion of living in the caliphate, which is a powerful desire, an end goal for many that don't realise that i.s.i.l. is not providing the utopian islamic society that they pretend to. there may be a sense of adventure, they are promised romance and support. subsidies for children, no taxation and a wonderful husband. >> let's talk about the specifics about what is going on with the young american women. leaders of the somalia community in st. paul said of a 19-year-old, that she was likely recruited by i.s.i.l. sympathizers in the united states. is that unusual. until now, the conventional wisdom that you talked about, the high gloss videos, was that they are making these connections online. >> the somalia community in the twin cities has been particularly at risk for over
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five years, where recruiters have gone into that community and targeted a high achieving young people who are impressionable, they have manipulated and made them feel guilty about living a wonderful life in the west and muslims are suffering awroted, and they need -- abroad, and they need to step up and do something. the fact that they are in minnesota, may be specific to the community, there's a history of al-shabab recruiting young people from the same community. >> we paid a lot of attention to that with the westgate mall bombing in nairobi, kenya. at this point this came out, that there were american men recruited by al-shabab. now we are talking about i.s.i.l. not necessarily talking about the women though. if there are i.s.i.l. recruiters in the united states, from a homeland security standpoint do we have more to worry about than a few women running off to join
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terrorists? >> there'll be concern that there's a contagion effect, and the recruiters, instead of sending women abroad will follow one of the british women in i.s.i.l., and follow her advice, if you can't come, do something locally, like the attack in wool rich, against lee rigby. there's a concern. the greater threat is to the arab countries, the majority of foreign fighters - male and female - are coming from the arab world, fewer from the west. >> this oxa ma mood paint a pretty picture of what life is like for women na go and join i.s.i.l. the reality, as you say, they want the women for specific things. >> they want the women specifically to produce the next generation, to populate that caliphate state. they have created a unit of
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women called a brigade, but they are only women between 18 and 25, which are the most fertile years. while the brigade needs to do something, they are mostly there to reward the fighters with a bribe, and create babies for the next generation. >> how many are turned into active terrorists. >> although oxam said in her poetry she wanted to be a martyr, and ms connelly trained, i don't think they'll use them that way. but they may in the future. i.s.i.l. and others generate from al qaeda. and they were the first al qaeda affiliate to use a suicide bomber in 2005. i still think it's possible, but i don't think they'll do it yet. >> a disturbing aspect to all of this. bombshell is the book. good to have you on the show.
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>> thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> now for more stories from around the world. we begin in ukraine, where six civilians were killed, and 15 wounded by shelling in rebel controlled donetsk. the latest violence comes as petro porashenko announced concessions aimed at ending the conflict, including allowing separatist controlled areas to elect their own judges, create their own police forces and cultivate deeper ties with russia, while remaining part of ukraine. angela merkel continued to press vladimir putin to remove russian troops from ukraine, while pushing for trilateral talks among russia, ukraine and the e.u. next we head to mexico, baja, california, where hurricane odile pounded the town with wind up to 2500 miles per hour, and reported seven inches of rain
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every hour. hurricane odile destroyed small buildings, leaving 200,000 people without power. there has been no reports of deaths or serious injuries. it poses more bad news for arizona, as remnants of hurricane odile will pass over that area. we end in the world of technology, where if you thought apple fever cooled after the iphone announcement. you would be wrong. apple refused 4 million orders of iphone #. in the first 24 hours, the phone was available. it doubles the record of 2 million, set in 2012 with the iphone five. due to the delays, verizon is telling customers they'll need to wait until the end of october for orders. at&t until november. these don't include orders from china, a charge cell phone market, where a release date has
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not been set yet. that is some of what is happening around the world. coming up, an american goes to north korea, intent on being imprisoned and now gets his wish. we explain why next. a desperate plea from british prime minister david cameron for voters in scotland to think of their children, grandchildren and the generations beyond before choosing to separate from great britain. and harmeli aregawi is tracking top stories on the webful. >> urban outfitters is on the edge of controversy. the latest item makes light of a deadly incident in american history. more on that coming up. while you are watching, let us know what you think. join the conversation on twitter and on facebook and google+. >> al jazeera rejects all the charges and demands immediate release. >> thousands calling for their freedom. >> it's a clear violation of their human rights.
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only from xfinity. north korea's highest court sentenced matthew miller, to
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six years hard labour for illegally entering the country to commit espionage whilst posing as a tourist. he tour up his visa upon entering the country. he said he wanted to investigate human rights abuses. he told the associated press he was treated well. >> i am now requesting help from the american governments, the citizens of america, and the world to release me from this situation. >> another american, 56-year-old jeffrey foul will be tried for leaving a bible in a public place, and kenneth bae is serve a 15 years sentence. north korea is pushing for more western tourists to visit, and curiously more are going. travel agencies estimate there's
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as many as 6,000 visitors to north korea every year. joining us in new york is gordon chang, a regular contributor and author to "nuclear showdown, north korea takes on the world", great to see you. we'll talk about the western tourism situation, but first matthew miller. kenneth bae, and foul were doing there seems more clear, in miller's case not so much. what do you think is going on there? >> this is a mystery. i think he was trying to defect. we don't know. all of the statements have been filtered by the north korean government, and he was actually a mysterious character when living in bakersfield. this is a mystery piled on top of another. >> and is what the north koreans want on the other hand more clear. we are seeing - are they basically trying to shore up - is kim jong un trying to shore up his government by using americans as pawns?
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>> they have always been doing that. they have been doing that for more than a half decade and have been grabbing hostages, and we have been going to try to get them out. in the early part of august, there are reports, which i believe a high level white house delegation went to pyongyang to get the three individuals out of north korea. >> you think there are behind the scenes dealings that we don't hear about. >> i think so. we have done it in the past, i expect we'd do it now. the other two, kenneth bae, and jeffrey fowl are sympathetic. matthew todd miller - i don't know what to make of it. the other two, we should do our best to get them out of there. >> true, they are sympathetic characters, and you want to get them out. but if we do this, are we doing what they want. sends a high level person that will give cover at a time when they may not be secure and
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wanting that to show off how powerful he is. >> that's why the three are still held there, because you haven't had a high level american go. you have to remember when president obama was running, he said "i would go anywhere to speak to anybody. he's not going to pyongyang. that's good. he has a policy called strategic patience, to wait out the north koreans, it's the rite thing to do. you can try behind the scenes to get the guys out. that is not consistent with the policy. >> if we reject kim jong un, and don't send anyone - all three interviews they had, that was what they said, they needed someone from the u.s. to come. they'll use it as an excuse to continue his misbehaviour on the international stage. >> that is why the efforts have been behind the scenes at this point. i don't - you know, i expect these people to be released at some point. it will take a little bit of time. clearly we are not going to give them exactly what they want,
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either a high-level visit, or a billion dollars or whatever. that will not happen in this administration. >> let's talk about western tourism. why are people going, they know it can happen. it's happened to who nose how many people. if it doesn't happen to them. they are going to a country with the worst human rights abuses. there's a gulag out there, where they imprison families. we are - people that go there are giving dollars to a government treating people horribly. >> people should not go to north korea. this is an attraction to it because it's weird. it's like disneyland. it's dismal land and we have to remember that. that's western tourists, you have to remember the chinese go in great numbers, a quarter of a million. and they want to see what china was like during the cultural
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revolution. seeing their own history. north korea is like the old china. you have a lot of chinese tourists, day-trippers, they look after the investments, it's illegal. you have a lot of people going to north korea, this western tourism helps the regime, doesn't build up people to people contacts. it helps north korea, not the rest of the world, or the north korean people. >> and it provides the north korean government the ability to blackmail. >> north korea is trying hard. they have ski resorts that they are trying to sell, beaches that they are trying to sell. and they have the hotel which the south koreans go, but half a decade ago they shot a seen woman. she strayed off the path and some soldiers shot and killed her. this is the reality of north korea. whether you are a south korean
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chinese, this is a dangerous place to go to. it's especially dangerous for men's. >> gordon chang we'll talk about north korea, i am sure they'll make new, unfortunately, with this type of behaviour. it's good to see, as always. >> switching topics to whether the important ally could split up. after 307 years, scotland may choose to become an independent state on thursday. some 4 million voters will decide the future of the british union, and in aberdeen on monday david cameron, british prime minister pleaded with the scots to keep the country hold. >> we want you to stay, head, heart and soul we want you to stay. please don't nix mix up the temporary and the permanent. if you don't like me, i won't be there forever. if you don't like the government. it won't last forever. if you leave the u.k., that will be forever.
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in edinburgh, independent leader alex salmond anticipated a break-up. the evidence is that more and more people want to put scotland's future into scotland's hands. >> i'm joined in new york by "guardian" reporter adam lavatt. the "guardian" has come out against independence. seems like this struggled. they said that britain deserves another chance. you are partially scottish. how divisive has this been for the british people? >> it's incredibly divisive. not just in scotland. i'm partly scottish, my grandfather was scottish. i feel torn between the two. the english part of me feels i've been spurned by a lover. what did i do wrong, what's wrong. the u.k., everyone there has grown up with us as a united
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country. however, the arguments put forward by the yes campaign, incredibly emotive, how factual they are is one thing. you can understand where they are coming from. they have an easier cell. >> they have done a good selling club. when it won a majority in the scottish legislature, it put the referendum on the ballot. back then, and for a good time after that, the support was between a quarter and a serb of the scottish people that thought it was a good idea. how has that changed. why has this changed? >> even going back three years ago, 35% of people in scotland were in favour of independent. now 51% are in favour. essentially, it's come down to the fact na the yes campaign is more clear in terms of what they are talking about, the talking point. the no campaign didn't take it
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seriously. you can see it by the fact that david cameron agreed to put the referendum forward anyway. >> they didn't think the scottish people would vote for it. >> when they looked at the polls they saw a quarter to a third of people were in favour, and they essentially kind of clocked out and didn't think about it, and the yes campaign, they have a ground swell of support. the big factor is they have 15 to 17-year-olds to vote. we saw it in polls. >> younger people seem to be in favour. if you go down the list, it's not just the english newspapers against independence. most of the scottish newspapers are against independence. you have - you have celebrities of all sorts. j.k. rowling against it. david beckham against it. the main parties in westminster at parliament are against this. who is mostly for it? is it the young and the working
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class? >> it looks like young people, working class, traditionally labour voters. the labour leader came out against this. there's a feeling in scotland. they didn't vote for the government. they skewed left. >> in england we are ruled by a scpv lib dem -- scpv lib dem government. in scotland there's only one government, voting for the left and more welfare, but they have a conservative government bring in austerity. >> dom ron's art is if you don't like me, i'm temporary. you should vote for the union of your country. >> you almost felt sorry for david cameron. as a guardian reporter, we are not meant to say that.
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he will not be there forever. what is over looked is the fact that the last campaign cas sotish. gordon brown voted for labour, stiped to win the next election. it's not like they lucked out. the e.u. made noises that they could not accept scotland. they hope to get oil rev few in their part of the world, there's debts on britain's part. questions are how in the world can they make it function. it's a question. the yes campaign - it's done a good job about making this about very emotional issues, why are we ruled by conservatives. >> now not the best way to decide a vote. >> going into it not knowing where the oil is, where the money will come from or nuclear
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security. >> it's an important vote not just for the brits, but the americans. great britain is a great ally. we'll stay on top of the story. thank you for coming in to talk to us about it. time to check in on the web. >> urban has reignited memories of a tragic event. this red-stained shirt is advertised as a vintage one of a kind reading: a lot of people say with the small holes and red stains that look like blood, it seems to allude to the 1970 kent state massacre where the ohio national guard killed four unarmed college students and injured nine at a rally. kent state released a statement monday saying:
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urban outfitters apologised in a statement on twitter saying: the company says it has removed the shirt, it says sold out. let us know what you think on twitter. >> i don't know what anyone was thinking when they figured this thing occupant. >> straight ahead, a huge development involving n.f.l. star adrian peterson, new reports of another allegation of child abuse after he was reinstated. l a main hotel chain makes a move to get you to tip more. there was a time when american workers didn't like the idea of
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a brutal september for the n.f.l. got worse. monday afternoon minnesota vikings reinstated adrian peterson, despite an indictment for allegedly abusing one of his sons. hours later a new report says
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he's been accused in a second domestic abuse incident involving another son, also four years old. meanwhile the players' association is widely expected to appeal ray rice's indefinite suspension by the league for domestic violence against his fiancee. rice was fired by the baltimore ravens after video emerged showing him knocking her out. it comes amid growing pressure to remove commissioner roxer goodell. banners were flown with a hashtag "goodell must go", on social media, a covergirl ad went viral, get your game face on was accompanied by a model made up with baltimore raven colours, and a black eye. dave zirin is an al jazeera contributor, and the host of edge of sport radio and joins us
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from los angeles. >> let's start with the latest news. he released the statement saying i want everyone to understand how sorry i feel about the hurt i brought to my child. i'm not a perfect parent. i'm not a child abuser and this evening we have new allegations that we might hit another child. >> yes, i mean, what all of this reveals is there's no real controlling authority in the national football league for all of roxer goodell's contentions of being a big law and order guys, other than the issue of drugs, performance enhancing. there's no guidelines. every team is let loose to deal with the personal conduct issues on their own, despite the fact that there's a personal conduct policy. look at the minnesota vikings, they have been revealed to be a spineless organization. it's a horrible thing to see. at the press catholic church, the general manager got up there
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and said, you know, we think that adrian peterson should play this sunday. the minnesota vikings in the past have been one of the more no tolerant teams, cutting three players over the last couple of years for being arrested - not convicted or going through due process, but being arrested on charges from dui and domestic assault to second degree felony. that's who the minister vikings are. what do they have in common. none were star players, but adrian peterson is. currently there's a $2 billion sink hole in the middle of miles per hour, st. paul, where the stadium is being built. there's pressure exerted specially to put adrian peterson back onned field, regardless of any evidence that's revealed about him. it eveals the n.f.l. is so focused on public relations and profits, and not being a moral
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exemp lar, which they have pretensions of being. >> the n.f.l. has a lot of power to decide whom to suspend. when can the power be used. the other side of the art is yes, they are terrible allegations. but if they are not proven in a court of law. why should someone suggestive to false accusations by suspended. >> thernal, that's the case. the bigger issue is there's no framework for dealing with that in the n.f.l. eight years ago roxer goodell insisted on being the controlling authority, being judge, jury. and saying he'd judge every case as they came. he's been revealed as someone who cares more about some allegations than others. and the others being the issue of domestic violence. let's talk about that.
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ray rice made a first public appearance on saturday. with his wife at his old high school, where he was cheered by many fans. now they are appealing the substantial. so in a way, is the n.f.l. giving roxer goodell cover. they are defending this guy. >> ray rice asked the n.f.l. staff to defend him. this is because roxer goodell has come forward publicly. they released a statement saying the reason they switched the suspension from two games to a life-time ban is because they gave a specific reason, saying that ray rice lied about what took place in the elevator, when he explained what happened. there are four people, including baltimore general manager, who said no, ray rice told the truth, or the truth as we saw it on the videotape, that he was the instigator. it's a bar thing we'll have an
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arbitration where the sides are roxer goodell saying he was lied to by ray rice, and others saying no, roxer goodell is the liar. good luck. >> as you and i talked about last week, whatever was said, the reality is anyone knew that his then fiancee had been knocked out and dragged out. >> right. >> you didn't see the knockout punch, you saw him drag her out of the helicopter. it's hypocritical. let's -- of the elevator. it's hypocritical. the pressure is coming from all sides. is there any chance he'll resign or the owners will remove him. there's a strong wall street journal article talking about how it's not just the n.f.l. that roxer goodell made a lot of money for. he's making money for tv networks and advertisers. and broadcast television uses the term that n.f.l. is a tent pole for the broadcast networks. >> roxer goodell, people have to under, is like the test tube
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baby of 32 owners in the national football league. roxer goodell started to work for the n.f.l. in 1982. he's been there his entire professional life, over three decades. all of the n.f.l. owners created the guy. it's like a crystallised expression of what they want to see. for roxer goodell to go down, it's an entire perspective of the n.f.l. owners, and how much power it should exert, goes down with him. that's why the owners - people think they are tone deaf, making statements like jerry cohen saying "100% of us are behind him." the players do in the like roxer goodell. the fans are not the biggest fans, and when this is said and done, he goes. >> there's the whole issue, the neurological damage to football players, and the information
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that came out, that as many as a third faced that. something that the n.f.l. put aside. i don't want to use the words cover up. i am sure you'd use the words. >> i certainly would. >> it's good to see you as always. we'll see what happens with the n.f.l. >> coming up. is the space programme failing in it's efforts to help. at first, we pay a lot of money in tips. how did the custom get started. why did some states outlaw tips. our data dive is next.
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today's data dive brings you a tip - mary ot has begun a push to get the housekeepers more gratuities, to encourage you to tip the hotel company will leave envelopes in guest rooms.
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housekeepers are the largest group of mary ot's employees, but they are not seep often and get short changed on tips. they make less money, less than $20,000 a year in 2012. the american hotel and lodging association suggests you tip house keepers between $1-$5 a day. the first use of gratuities goes back to 1509 when a german asked for drink money for his apprentice. there's affed in george washington tipped his brother-in-law's slaves. it became popular after the civil war, as a way of richer customers showing off. but initially there was intense public opposition to tips, because they were seen as un-american, fostering a mast rer-servant relationship.
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anti-tipping associations sprung up, and six states banned gratuities. tipping didn't take hold until the introduction of prohibition. most tipped the same amount, regardless of the service. americans tipped an average of 19% in restaurants, but it varies. they found the sitingiest cities were in california, san francisco the worst, followed by san diego, and l.a. >> a 10 year mission into space to land on a comet hits a milestone. hi everyone, i'm john seigenthaler in new york, coming up after "consider this". a new phase in the battle against i.s.i.l. the united states launches an air strike. g.m. admitting more deaths caused by faulty ignition switches, the number could go higher. ray rice planning to appeal his indefinite suspension, and the n.f.l. announcing a new team to
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deal with domestic violence. coming up after "consider this". see you then. @
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after 10 years in space the rosetta spacecraft will come in for a landing. rosetta was launched by the european space agency in 2004
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and met up with a comet. 67 p. a few weeks ago. scientists found the spot where rosetta will touch down, and the date set for november 11th. dr derrick pitts joins us, from the franklin institute science museum. great to see you. we have a landing spot. the question is the landing spot is dangerous. boulders, slopes, cliffs. after 10 years, are people worried this may be a problem, getting on to the comet itself. >> they'll be worried about this down to the moment it anchors on the surface. the comet is so much smaller than earth. the pool of gravity is less than earth is. they are going to gently land it on the surface and hope that the surface texture is smooth enough to get down and land it and ang yore it well.
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this site is the best of a number of sites that are not much better. the good thing about this site is it's a good site scientifically, with the least amount of hazards for the landing. it's not ideal, none of them are ideal, but it happens to be the best of the worst. >> the gravitational pull of the comet is so weak, i read that it will only weigh about a gram. if it does get attached to the rock with harr poons, which is what they are planning on doing, how long will it take us to know what it finds, and what do we hope it will find? >> well, the great thing about this is that there's a lander and an orbiter that will orbit around the spacecraft. once the lander touches down and anchors themselves, it will upload it to the orbiter so it can be sent back to earth. the great thing is this is the
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first time that mankind landed an object on the comet with the intent to be there for a while to study it as the comet orbits the sun. >> what do we learn. >> it is changing our understanding. we are learning more than we knew before about how planets come into assistance. this is what we discover about planets ordering other stars. we have a great opportunity to go along with the comet while it's becoming active as it comes around the sun. >> let's hope it works. i want to touch on another topic, the importance in space. we had a close fly buy from an asteroid. it came about a 10th of a distance to the moon, which is close to me. now a report out on monday from n.a.s.a.'s watchdog says that the agencies efforts to identify and track the after i said is
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not working well. what has happened? >> there are three problems. the inspectors, inspector general's office is concerned about how well the office is operating. how it's operating because it set a goal to identify 90% of asteroids, in size or larger, so it could keep track of them. and figure out which ones may cause a problem. the inspector general has discovered that the organization within the office is not conducive to a smooth research project where n.a.s.a. is used to doing. one of the things that the inspector general recommended is that they pursue the project as if it was a research project. kudos for n.a.s.a. research products. it needs to be adapted to this to make it run properly.
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if they were to cooperate better, with other agencies, like the department of defense, and other international space agencies, that would help them. last but not least, they said it doesn't have enough founding to do the increasing size job. three problems, but n.a.s.a. says it might be able to straighten some of this out by next spring. >> let's hope they figure it out. it's important. that's all for now. tuesday on "consider this". president obama faces growing criticism on immigration. actress rose mcgoughan on the importance of women film-makers. she'll be here with us after making a directorial debut and curated a film festival focused on women. >> join us for more on facebook or google+, or tweet me.
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see you next time. >> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler in new york. a new offensive, the u.s. strikes new i.s.i.l. targets in iraq and washington announces a new plan to stop americans from joining the group. request more victims of gm's starters. and facing americans tonight under review, ray rice's plan to get back on the playing field

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