.>> dived shuster's at a rally n the bronx tonight not in brooklyn. i know young people love bernie, but is there any sign of generational support beyond the youth? >> well, you know, randall, we were looking at this crowd of perhaps eight to 10,000 and there's an overflow of a couple thousand. it is the biggest political rally in new york this year. it looks like 90-95% people
younger than 40. you and i would both feel very old in this crowd. it is a place for younger people to be. that's the problem, sanders campaign ha not reached out to older voters. there is talk about rallies puerto rican constituents. it could make a huge difference. he is talking about the usual things he talks about, campaign finance reforms, breaking up the big banks, starting a political revolution. spike lee introduced them as a new york must-win for the campaign in two and a half weeks and bernie sanders is going to keep his populace insurgency going. >> thank you, south bronx! >> fresh off six big victories, bernie sanderses now hopes to replicate in new york what paul
suggests he has done this week in wisconsin. after a string of large rallies, the latest poll indicates sanders is leading hillary clinton 49%-45%. >> when we stand together, there is nothing we cannot accomplish. but gaining on clinton in new york, her own back yard may not be so easy. >> you are meeting the next president of the united states of america. >> clinton has a large number which powerful political allies. in a harlem coffee shop, representative charlie rangel. >> at a rally in westchester county where she lives, clinton pledge that had new york is herself. >> serving as your senator for eight years was one of the greatest honors of my life. in a sign of the heightened
tensions and importance of the new york race, sanders supporters protested and interrupted in the clinton event. >> i know the bernie people came to say that, we're very sorry you're leaving. >> you want to vote democratic and you're a true democratic, you should vote bernie. >> donald trump appears to be losing one of his highest profile defenders, ann coulter lashed out. >> you recognize our candidate is mental? it's like constantly having to bail out your 16-year-old from prison. >> that was before touch's comments wednesday on abortion. >> the answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yes, there has to be some punishment. >> his campaign said i it was a misspeak and said he would only punish doctors. nonnone of this is likely to aft
trump in wisconsin where ted cruz has jumped ahead 40%-30. john kasich has 31%, for his part, cruz now seems to have found his rhetorical timing. wednesday night on jimmy kimmel, cruz joked about trump and brought down the house. >> if i were in my car and was getting ready to reverse and saw donald in the back beyond camera, i'm not confident which pedal i'd push. >> it is a very funny line but all vokes aside, the republican race has been a talking point not only for bernie sanders tonight, but for hillary clinton, both have called the republican race an embarrassment. sanders is focusing mostly on his differences with hillary clinton. right now, he's at the part of the speech where he talks about political corruption and trying to break up the wall street banks. it is an interesting rally, not
so much a rally as a festival for progresses and bernie sanders is serving up a lot of red meat on the issues they care about. >> it's a long way from where people thought bernie sanders would be at this point of the campaign, isn't it? >> you know, ran d.l., it certainly is with that powell just a couple of months ago here in new york had certain sand down 35-40 points. it is suggested it is tightened. through free media, every local media station is here. the new york media is eating this up that his presidential campaign has come to new york city, the idea is to get the free media, rally people who may not be paying attention and get them to start particiting in this campaign. >> thank you, david shuster in the bronx with bernie sanders. world leaders are meeting in washington for the fourth and
final nuclear summit of president obama's tenure in offers. the meeting's aimed at keeping nuclear materials out of the hands of groups like isil. most of the talk centered on north korea. >> ran d.l., it's much quieter here on this beautiful spring night in washington. behind me in the white house, president obama is hosting a dinner, kicking off that nuclear come milt with representatives, leaders and dell gases from more than 51 nations. as you said, the focus tom in particular will be about keeping nuclear materials out of the wrong hands. today in individual meetings with korea, japan and china, the president was talking about the vehiclessing problem of what to do about north korea. >> pyongyang has long been known for rhetoric but its latest propaganda offering was a video posted on a north korea website
that threatened the united states with a nuclear attack and featured an animated version of an attack an washington's national mall. the claims of north korea's leader kim jong-un of developing a miniaturized warhead and intercontinental ballistic missile though unverified must be taken seriously. president obama held private talks with the leaders of south korea and japan, the two american allies closest to the north. >> it's not surprising that one of the topics most on our minds is the issue of north korea and we are united in our efforts to deter and defend against north korean provocations. >> today's meeting has led to in department discussions on what
our three countries should do in order to stop north korea from nuclear capabilities and misguided calculus. >> lighter president obama met with president xi of china. president xi called coordination with the u.s. effective and said both countries are committed to the denuclearization of north korea. even though the north's boast of an underground nuclear test was deemed by the u.s. as an unsuccessful attempt to detonate to hydrogen bomb, the north's capabilities have undeniably improving and america's top general said that is vastly complicating pentagon war plans. >> if you think about a conflict with north korea, you have to factor in ballistic missiles, signer exhibits, space exhibits in addition to the traditional conventional threat that we confront on the peninsula.
>> now, the united states continues to hope tougher sanctions will eventually convince north korea to give up its nuclear ambitions, but kim jong-un shows no sign that he's moved by the suffering of his people and he appears to be convinced that the best way to avoid an outside invasion that could topple his regime is to have that nuclear sabre to rattle. randall. >> thanks, jimmy macintyre in the white house. >> as president obama seeks greater cooperation on nuclear issues with other nations, his administration is facing the fighting of shipment of weapons grade plutonium. what's the story there, andy? >> the governor is saying not in my back yard to yet another ship load of plutonium chugging its way now here from japan. issues like government waste, fears of terrorism, and fears of
another flint are all coming into play. >> atomic road is the major thoroughfare that leads to the biggest employer in this area, the savannah river site. processing has been a way of life here. south carolina governor nick key haily demands it stop getting shipped to s.r.s. >> the governs commitment on removing plutonium from south carolina and a failure to meet that agreement and i agree with her about that, they should have started removing the plutonium and they're proposing oh bring in more. >> plutonium is not safely and security transferred to s.r.s. for storage, as the department of energy claims, he says, it's
kay anotherrically and haphazardly dumped there. >> nuclear materials like plutonium of most vulnerable when they're being moved around. >> they have tried to find a new home for that excess plutonium, but the most ambitious plan was a bust, the mox facility. it aimed to turned weapons grade plutonium into commercial fuel for power plants, like turk swords into play shares as the old saying goes. after massive cost and deadline overruns, the plug was pulled on mox. that's $5 billion to $8 billion of taxpayer money out the window and that spent plutonium continues to pile up. >> we are the only ones that have the capability of processing this stuff, so why
send it somewhere else? >> a former engineer at n.r.s. disagrees with the governor. she sits on the citizen's advisory board. a mix of critics and supporters. she says concerns over the environment and terrorism of just scare tactics. >> if there was any plutonium that had been diverted from one of these facilities, it would be world news, ok? so for decades this has been going on all over the world and nothing has been proliferated from terrorists from it. >> that's es. >>y of the department of energy. he said he couldn't talk with us about the japanese shipment but inside that the transfer and storage of plutonium is safe. for the critics he pointed out that the d.o.e. is often at the mercy of changing administrations and changing budgets. bernice lives down river from
s.r.s. many of her relatives died of cancer and she wonders if years of living near s.r.s. was the cause. more plutonium on the way means more worry for her. she showed us the environmental report which confirmed that while contaminants are in the air and water, they aren't at dangerous levels, at least not for what s.r.s. calls reference man. >> what they're saying is based on reference man, that that should be safe for him, reference man does not live here, we do. >> s.r.s. will always be like the family member you just can't live with or without. >> s.r.s. hires thousands of people. thousands. what would happen if they left? i don't want to see people lose jobs, but the people who are responsible for contaminating need to take responsibility for cleaning that up.
>> that slip load of japanese plutonium is expected to reach here by mid may. back in 2000 when the u.s. reached agreement with russia on bringing in all this plutonium and excess nuclear material, they were expecting 34 metric tons but so far only a fraction of that has shown up. randall. >> thank you. an alleged gunman died in a shootout with virginia state troopers this afternoon. the troopers were holding an exercise at richmond bus station when they heard shots fired. pleas say the unidentified male suspect pulled a gun and shot one trooper. he and two by standers sustained non-life threatens injuries. the f.b.i. is getting requests to unlock iphones. it unlocked the phone of one of the san bernardino shooters, it had announced.
apple denied that helping the f.b.i. crack the actions code. the dep apologized for sending out a tweet that it says was meant to be a travel warning but many found it offensive. the tweet read not a 10 in the u.s., then not a 10 overseas. beware of being lured into buying expensive drinks or being robbed, hash tag spring breaking badly. the state department has since deleted the sweet. migrant workers subjected to appalling human rights abuses in qatar according to a report from amnesty international. the fight over who will see children's textbooks. the woman with controversial views who could sue to have that job.
i'm joined now by assistant manager editor for politics at the los angeles times. she is in l.a. thank you for joining us. first question about the republican, there's efforts led by leading california republicans to stop trump. who's behind this and why? >> you've got a lot of different competing stop trump initiatives out there, actually, one of the most prominent ones we wrote about yesterday is rob stotsman, a former arnold schwarzenegger
strategist. he says look, this is a group that knows the california republican party much better than some of the national efforts out there trying to stop trump so they are the best equipped to do this. we have an unusual primary here. in some ways, they may be right but it's an interesting endeavor when you have donald trump still leading the polls and the state making a big difference. >> richard nixon, also an actor who became the govern, what is it about california voters who tend to see things a little differently especially republicans? >> we've had two actors who became governors. >> schwarzenegger. ronald reagan and arnold schwartz negative every. it is a different party here.
we just did a los angeles times poll looking at california republicans are in general, not just republicans but california is more liberal on the issue of immigration and even though trump is leading presidential polls here, overwhelmingly peoplelike his idea of building a wall on the border and ban on bringing muslims into the united states. it's just a different type of party. when the republican party hazard their convention last year, they softened language toward immigrants in their platform for the state republican party, so they're about to have some people come in that feel very differently on that and try to campaign over the next two months. >> let's do one more question about trump before we move to the democrats. given his recent comments, which he retracted with punishing women who receive illegal aporeses.
trump in the past hasn't been able to say anything without receiving any penalty for it from his core supporters. do you think that may be changing? >> i've answered this question a lot of different ways over the last seven months here. so far, it seems like nothing he says really detracts his support among those hard core supporters. it's important to keep in mind that you does seem to have a ceiling of support and in some cases in the low 40 said, some cases the high 30's. that's not enough to win the presidency. it might be enough to win the republican party nomination but he has alienated in particular female voters on a lot of different things but also certain immigrant groups, different types of people on different issues, calling people ugly, all those things. you keep thing one thing will set somebody off but his core support has not wavered and a lot of people say they like the fact that he tells it like it is and doesn't pull punches. that is something people are
craving in certain segments of the voters right now. >> who has the upper hand in california with the democratic it is? >> hillary clinton is leading polls when you look at the broad democratic electorate. we allowed democratic and declined voters to participate. anyone not registered to the other parties is able to participate in the democratic party. very different from the republican primary. that said, that favors senator bernie sanders and he was actually in the los angeles times newsroom talking about how he's going to contest very hard for california. it's a big state with a lot of delegates at stake, but what is important to note in this is that her lead holds with basically every single demographic group except young people. she has a large margin with hispanic voters, a large margin with overall voters and democrats in california and
she's got a lead that is very difficult to overcome. he does have a lot of core support in los angeles and made clear he is going to be here for rallies and all kinds of events over the next two months. >> young voters obviously a lot of them are flocking to bernie sanders, but if he does not win the nomination, will they stay, will the enthusiasm stay to fuel hillary clinton in the general election? >> this is an important question. minute len yell voters is a big question mark. their first experience was watching the recount in 2000. that's the sort of generational introduction to politics as voters, so they're a little disenfranchised now and will they show up to vote in november is a big question mark.
hillary's team thinks so, but we won't know until then. >> thank you very much for joining us on aljazeera america. the collapse of a highway overpass in india caught on camera. at least 21 people killed when the overpass collapsed in calcutta. the rescue effort goes on tonight to find people trapped under the rubble. the overpass had been under construction for five years. construction collapses are common in india where regulation are often poorly enforced. greece has begun moving ref series from the port to other parts of the country but thousands remain stranded at a camp and separated from their families. zeina hodor has more. >> day 33 and waiting, living in the open, just a few hundred meters from a border that is separating them from their families. he is from the syrian city of comisli. he was on his way to germany
when the balkan route closed. >> we made this journey because we thought we could reach germany. we sold everything we owned. they can't do this to us. >> his sister hasn't seen her husband and four children for six months. lila was left behind when turkish police arrested here before she managed to get on the boat to reach the shores. all she has is a picture of her family in a refugee center in germany. >> i die every day, she says and lila has little hope of being reunited with them anytime soon. >> many of the 50,000 people now stranded in greece share a similar story arriving only to find a different europe. >> europe's response has been criticized. the united nations said erecting fences is not the answer. people are hopeful that policy will change even though they are repeatedly told by the authorities the border will not
open. >> their only options to apply for asylum in greece or to the e.u.s relocation program which has accepted that only a few hundred applications in the past six months. for some, time is not on their side. he has been here a month. his family lived through conflict and he struggled to find work to feet his family. now he finds himself in an even more difficult situation. >> my wife and her younger brother arrived in germany. she is alone now, and she has cancer. i just want to be with her. >> nazim worries it will take months before migration officials look into his case. that is why he is sharing his story on the plastic sheets of his new home in the hopes that those who are to decide his future maybe aware of his situation and possibly make an exception. al jazeera. up next, five of america's
equal pay for equal work, that's the demand from top women in soccer. they say they are working more and making less than men and are taking legal action. the five players are some of the biggest women athletes in sports. they say they're earning less than their male counters parts from appearance fees to bonuses. >> after a win against japan in 2015, u.s. women's team was honored with a ticker tape parade in new york city. more than 23 million viewers watched the game, making it the highest rated soccer match in
u.s. history. that win along with four olympic gold medals is a record for a woman sommer team unmatched by any other nation. they're unprecedented suction is generating revenue for the u.s. soccer federation but according to a discrimination filed by five members of the team, it is not translating into equal pay for the women's team. >> every single day we work just as much as the men. we endure as much physically and emotionally and our fans appreciate us every day for that. >> the complaint find with the u.s. equal employment commission said players on the women's team earn $72 a year for a minimum of 70 matches. every match they win they are paid a bonus. the men make $5,000 a game and get paid for more against higher ranked teams and can make more
than $17,000 a game if they win. the women said lawyer said the disparity violates u.s. pay equity laws. >> they were told it is irrational. it's not an acceptable answer. >> the association said it is committed to renegotiating a new contract, but getting pay equity based on merit could be an uphill battle. >> the women in the past have agreed and signed the offer from u.s. soccer that has paid them less than the men. that said, for their next collective bargain agreement, they certainly are taking a stance that they do not want to be paid differently from the men and that this action today is the result of u.s. soccer saying we will not pay you equal to the men even in the future. >> the complaint comes as the woman's soccer union considers
going on strike before the olympics kick off this summer. the u.s. soccer said that would hurt the growth of soccer here. >> to a different kind of soccer story. a soccer team in germany photo shopped the team picture to show support for two black teammates after one was the victim of a racist attack. the photo shows the entire team with blackened faces. the image posted with the hash tag united we stand. a sudanese refugee was beaten and verbally harassed over the weekend, the attack being investigate the by police. now to a new report from amnesty international on conditions for migrant workers in qatar. investigators say there is widespread abuse of the workers building a stadium in doha. >> work is progressing object qatars world cup venues, but amnesty said improvements to migrant workers rights are not
progressing fast enough. the fifth report on the country details abusesi conditions on people for prongs for the 2022 world cup. amnesty interviewed migrant workers building the stadium, due to be the first world cup venue to open. >> the common ones are delay of pay or northern payment for very long periods. we've seen workers going for many, many months without being made. having worked extremely long hours in sometimes very harsh conditions. >> withholding pay is against qatari labor law and businesses are required to pay workers on time and by direct bank deposits. you might wonder why workers don't just leave, but it's not that simple. >> you can't work in qatar if you don't have a sponsor and the sponsor has complete control. you cannot change a job without the sponsors approval, you can't leave the country without the sponsors approval. one man asked if he could leave and the man was told to keep
working or he would never be able to leaf and his salary was further delayed. that's forced labor as defined by the labor organization. sponsorship laws are being jump dated in qatar. >>ed head of the supreme committee says they are may going progress in penalizing companies which break the law. >> we have said that we will face set backs in applying or standards and that it's a journey. it's not going to be an immediately solution. nevertheless, our standards did succeed. in 2015 through our applying the standards, we have able to capture many of these abuses an revolve them. >> the 2014 report commissioned by the qatar government says laws need to be better enforced. >> i think it's not just a case of passing new legislation. there is a lot of legislation already enforcing qatar and it's
a question of also stepping up enforcement. >> hundreds of thousands of workers like these are on construction sites in qatar. 36,000 are expected to be on world cup projects in the next two years. human rights groups say more needs to be done to make sure they can make a a fair living without the threat of abuse. aljazeera america is funded in part by the government of qatar. the chicago police union hired the police officer charged with shooting laquan mcdonald 16 times. jason van dyke will work as a janitor for the union while he fights first degree murder charges in court officials say the job is the union's way of providing the suspended officer with financial assistance. the 2014 shooting of mcdonald was captured on video and caused weeks of protest when released last year on the day van dyke was charged. in chicago, teachers getting ready to walk off the job tomorrow.
they have been working without a contract since july. the chicago school district is calling the one day walkout illegal, but some chicago teachers are questions whether their union is doing the right thing. >> if chicago teachers walk off the jock friday, 400,000 school kids will loose the day in the classroom, forcing parents to make alternate plans. >> do you think this is going to be an insense for some parents. >> yes, my daughter is a single mom, she has me, i'm just going to keep josh home on friday. there's not much we can do. >> fifth grade teacher erika wozniak thinks it's necessary. >> we are just showing this is an urgent matter. >> the planned walkout is part of a feud about funding between chicago mayor rahm emanuel and the chicago teacher's union that
started when the city closed fist public schools. the latest batting involves a new union contract. the old one expired last spring. by law, the teachers can't strike until may when a fact finding period is completed, but last week, the union voted for a one day walkout. the city wants to stop raises based on teachers experience or education level. the union president claims many delegates who voted no wanted a full blown strike. >> they just feel like why don't we just do it now, do a real strike now and be done with it. >> chicago public school c.e.o. said if there is a strike friday, the teachers will be breaking the law. >> when we get through this, we will look at our legal opposites and continue to talk to our lawyers about how we pursue those legal options. >> chicago public schools say teachers who don't show up to work on friday will be docked a day's pay but if they do want to
come to school and they cross a picket line, they could get in trouble with the union. >> teacher jim macione thinks the teachers are in a very difficult situation. >> most teachers feel apprehensive about doing it. >> he isn't sure if he'll picket outside his school. the illinois educational labor relations board could decide when the strike is illegal and what actions could be brought against the union and chicago's 27,000 teachers. the fight over teaching evolution in schools is playing out in texas right now. one candidate with some controversial beliefs is close to winning a may runoff eleion for the techs board of education, the vote has national implications, as heidi zhou castro explains. >> she's outspoken.
she's one step from shapes what children learn around the notice for years to come. >> she is running for a spot on the texas state board of education. the former kindergarten teacher and counselor of 36 years received the most votes in the texas republican primary but came in under 50%. now the race is headed to a may runoff. if she wins, she would join the 15 member board and have a voice in the curriculum standards that guide the content of the accident textbooks. >> in texas, we have 5 million kids in our public schools and if we teach them things that are not sound educational philosophies or sound scientific facts, we're setting them up for failure. >> the issue is greater than just texas. due to the state's outside purchasing power with
publishers, those same textbooks may be sold and used in other states. >> some of the things she says just are rightfully frightening to think of somebody having a microphone and elected stats. >> as a moderate republican, he opposes her candidacy. >> she has views that are not necessarily mainstream. she believes that our current president was once a male prostitute to pay for his drug habit. >> she posted the comment on her facebook page and then took it down. her friend and supporters say she is in touch with the accident conservative voters. >> she knows what the parents want. she'll be able to speak to those values and concerns. >> she has said that school shootings in the united states only began after schools started teaching evolution in the classroom. now to link those two things has created a lot of controversy. >> really what needs to be said
is that the further we get away from the founders ideals for education in our state and their i deal for our very government judeo christian values, the further we get from those values, the more we are going to have things not like throwing spilt address and chewing gum in the classroom as was the biggest trouble so many years ago, but today, we have school shootings. >> the the accident state bored of education is not new to controversy. in 2009, 50 scientific organizations criticized the board for its attempt to weaken sign standards on evolution. since then, voters elected more moderate board members. >> the circumstance cushion that was there prior to my arrival is nothing like what i think she would bring to the board. >> he beliefs her ascension would mean putting beliefs over facts. heidi zhou castro, al jazeera, dallas. up next, how a genetically
long and it wouldn't kill them. >> key west could be the first in the nation to test a new method of killing mosquitoes, not with chemicals, but with other mosquitoes. >> it's a paradigm shift from blanket spraying that kills lots of things to one mosquito that's going to go out and kill one other mosquito. >> experts are turning to a controversial idea to change the genes of a specific type of mosquito so that when they breed, their offspring die. bugs built in, where scientists are reading the research. >> this moss is hard to kill with insecticides and it's becoming more and more resistant. we need new ways to control the population. one of the ways is to use genetically modified mosquitoes. >> the idea is getting new urgency with the zika outbreak.
brazil reds the mosquitoes and saw an 80% drop in their population. now, the f.d.a. is considering whether to make a subdivision near key west the first testing ground in the u.s. some neighbors there are fiercely fighting it. >> we don't really feel like it's necessary, and that is mess, nature and messing with the choice of the people. >> homeowners worry they'll be guinea pigs to an idea they feel needs more study. >> this is something that i'm not going to have a chase about. i don't got the opportunities to i don't want that genetically modified mosquito to inject it's d.n.a. into my body. the fear is nobody has any idea. >> the company said the fears are unjustified, it only intends to release males, which don't bite. in early reviews, the f.d.a. said they don't pose a threat to
people or the environment. >> we need to make extra efforts here to protect our citizens and tourists that come to visit us. this is one of the ways i've been convinced it's a positive use. >> critics worry it's opening a new frontier in the fight between man and mosquito, relying on science more than nature. >> jonathan betz, al jazeera, key west, florida. tonight in los angeles, tesla unveils its new model three, priced at $35,000, it is tesla's first electric car aimed at mainstream auto buyers. eager buyers are already lining up. al jazeera's jacob ward has a preview. >> the people behind me are not just fans here to see fans for the first time. they're each here to put down a thousand dollars in cash to reserve a car they will not be allowed to get for another year at least. the new tesla model three makes sense to a lot of these folks.
it's not a luxury car, automatic it competes with others. at a starting price of $35,000 plus incentives and rebates and government bonuses, it becomes affordable. it gets you to the h.o.v. car pool lane which here is an enormous boon. for consumers, it makes a tremendous amount of sense, but for tesla as a company, it represents sort of the big challenge for this company. this company obviously has the roadster, the model s, x and each one of those was a life or death proposition. this one raises the stakes again, because tesla has been getting by on a sort of luxury segment of the market but now is trying to compete with regular automakers, that price their cars in the $20,000 to $30,000 range. unlike those other automakers who can boat loads of cheap affordable cars to fund the research into electric vehicles,
tesla does not have that luxury. this is a turn point of the company so sort of earn its place ranked among the highest valued automakers in the world. the acclaimed architect died today of a heart attack. she was 65 years old, she was a true visionary who used math and manual nation to create incredible buildings around the world that earned her the title of queen of the curve. >> a fire station in germany. a cultural center in an azerbai. works of architecture and works of art brought together by her works, a woman who did not just reimagine shapes, swoops and structures, she revolutionized them. born in baghdad, educated in beirut and london, she broke the
glass ceiling in an industry long dominated by men. there was no denying her genius and gunnedder bias she faced. >> in a certain world, i can not be a part of no matter what, i'm not and maybe eventually it will change. >> thanks to her, change is coming. you see it in the buildings she created. the london olympics aquatics center. an opera house in china. this bridge in abu dhabi. a high rise in hong kong. using math, computer models and boundless creativity, she transform neighborhoods and sky lines. she was a trailblazer, becoming the first woman to win a prize for architecture. she was named a dame commander of the order of the british empire. her high art became a global business with a presence in 55 countries. then there are the works in
al jazeera america. e hits like galileo and least complicated put the indigo girls on the charts. i spoke to them and began by asking how they make their music. >> amy writes hers and i write men and then we come together and arrange them. that's the way eve always done it since the beginning. ♪ >> the origin of your name, indigo girls. >> it just came frock the
dictionary. >> you were just flipping the pages? >> i had an iteration. >> was it a color theme. >> it doesn't mean anything to us. [ laughter ] >> one of your causes has been lesbian and gay rights for years. you were "out" before out was a word in common usage. i imagine that this recent same-sex marriage evolution, i see the smile on your face. >> yes, i mean it's, you know, we never thought that would happen. we're from georgia, so we were both like it's never bog to come to georgia but now it's federal, its everywhere. >> your families when they discovered to you were lesbians how did that work in the context
of teaching you to be part of a community even a community that might not have been as accepting at your status. >> my biggest fears were that i was going to cause problems in the family. my parents are loving. my mom made me southeaster pants when i was four years old. i didn't want a dress, i wanted my east are parents. the biggest concern is that i would live a life of pain caused by people who didn't understand and there has been some of that, but mostly not. >> tell us about the backlash that you experienced in the 1990's or the 1980's even. >> from coming out? my parents are pretty conservative so for me it was a long road. i grew up in the church, three days a week church and both my sisters are gay, as well, three
gay sisters and a straight brother. my mom's incredible. she wrestled with her faith and came around and is the great champion of lesbian and gays now. >> what about the wider world, did you have shows canceled? >> we were going to do a few shows at high schools, bring the arts into the schools because the arts were disappearing from the schools. this was in the 1990's. with he played at one and they actually blamed it on like censorship saying one of the songs had a curse word in it and i forget that leave it out, but it was about us being gay. >> can we talk about the business for a second. you start out i'm gathering that you weren't really focused on making money, just on doing your art. >> yeah. >> we were kids. >> at what point did you realize, hey, we've got to make a living here and feed our families and pay the rent, pay car notes. >> yesterday.
[ laughter ] ♪ >> would you say your revenues come mostly from live performances. >> it's the only way we can make a living. we don't sell that many records. we haven't got a royalty check in many years. >> since we went indy, we got some. >> true. >> even in the old days when you were selling a lot of records, we were that kind of band that made a living on the road. it's the way it works for us. >> thank you so much for sharing your latest project with us on aljazeera america and good luck on the road. >> thank you, randall. >> thanks for having us. it's been great. >> indigo girls. the new york studio where david bowie recorded his final two albums has closed for good.
other shops of closed in sow hoe. the studio is a victim of a changing music industry. owner steve rosenthal takes us through the good times and the bad. >> hi, i'm steve rosenthal and i'm the owner of magic shop recording studio in so hoe, new york city. >> how's it going? >> great. >> making noise? >> when i started and i built the studio in 1987, the whole sort of concept was the idea that people would play in a room and what comes out of the interaction in the record. wow. this was kind of representative of the kind of records that have gotten made here over the years. one of the highlights was doing a james bond song here. that was a blast. two ramons records, it's been very he can check particular and really fun. ♪
>> having david bowie at the magic shop was an amazing experience. ♪ the thing was, he really wanted to be able to work without being bothered and he wanted to be able to be here and concentrate. none of us said boo about it and it's something i'm really very proud of that we were able to keep the secret, to be able to sort of go with your own mortality and create art out of it is pretty extraordinary. >> i think the music industry itself is obviously very troubled. the client of the music business has impacted very seriously my studio business and the budgets have really declined. also, the way technology allows people to make music in their house and all that stuff, how are you doing? >> travis. >> nice to see you, hey, how's it going. >> thanks for having us in. >> my pleasure. they're coming in to work now.
i have to be out at the end of march, but i have to learn to sort of deal with it. i've been coming here, you know, for 28 years. that's a long time. >> that's our news for this hour. thank you for watching. ali velshi, next on targets. "on target" tonight. i'm at the mow jahi air and space museum. replacement to the ship, the vss, version spaceship unity is all new and it's addressed a lot of the safety issues that were concerns when that last spaceship went down. i'll show you that and more over the next half hour. the business of space. a new age is dawning for space exploration.