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we've tried to take you to expert analysis. first person reporting, take you inside the stories making news and for the last time in this one-her retrospective, we're bringing you the best of inside story. [ ♪ ] 29 months ago i sat at the inside story anchor desk for the first time and welcomed viewers to what we hoped would be a useful tool for picking the lock on understanding the day' news. after decades in the news business i was impatient with pat answers, conventional narratives and worried about how well you the audience were being served. so many words, security, justice, freedom, fairness, protection.
we're being used by powerful people as if we all agreed on what they mean. i wanted this program to be a place you could come to get a more thorough, less pat set of answers to your questions about what was going in the world. we didn't always succeed, but we did often enough that i think we lived up to many of the goals the staff had set for itself, asking questions no-one else was asking, covering stories ignored but a rump through the top headlines of the day. leaving the audience able to walk away from the television with a better handle on the events shaping the world for better and often for worse. over the past three years we have witnessed the rise of a reducedless network of heavily armed informatively financed rebels in iraq and syria, the islamic state group, twisting the teaches of islam to death and destruction, with a goal to
turning the region into an islamic caliphate. i spoke a terrorism expert about the best way to combat the group did we underestimate how hard it was going to be to build an opposition army in the ground, on the ground in that part of the world? >> i think we potentially did underestimate it, but i think we also have several examples to draw from because really what you outlined in your opening is this is a network. how do you attack a network? it's not just on the ground in syria or in northern iraq. it is a systemic approach. just as you have to turn the tide for recruiting for young european men an women or western men and women, whether it is from canada or the u.s., that want to join the fight, it is not as simple as dropping a bomb in syria or suffocating the
resources and finances. it has to be a multi-layered, multi-pronged approach. in order to stop the growth, one, of i.s.i.s. and also to combat it in ways that are beyond just on site in raqqa, in aleppo, in syria, in northern iraq. that has got to be part of the strategy. i know that's part of it, but i'm not sure how well it is working we talked the day after the president rolled out that policy. you were sceptical then. have your fears been realized? i think they have. he said that we're doing with a multi-pronged and fast edit adverseary. we need to have a military pronged strategy for dealing with that. what is important to keep in mind here is that we're dealing with one that operates from the
asynmetrical. where they operate like a military force in places where they're operating like a terrorist organization. every single gradation between they're adapting what they do and how they do it to the resources they have and the environment they find themselves in. the approach that we've had is to wage conventional war on what we assumed would be a fixed target and not assume that they would respond. what they've done in paris is respond to us with the tools at their disposal in that environment. we need to understand that there's a spectrum of threats that come from i.s.i.l. and respond to that each in kind. with the difficulty with the current administration approach is it has been a focus on containment and not of all the other grades how do you turn back the young men who are willing to join up to, to train, to fight
and to die? >> prevention is better than cure, of course, but you're not going to save everyone. we need to be very realistic about that. our expectations have to be realistic. on the prevention side it really has to come down to the muslim communities, bottom-up approach, not a top-down state centric, state-directed approach. counselling programs and really jurists, muslim jurists, to explain to people. the foreman this group is that is referred to by the prophet as the dogs of hell, the pro, genator of the armies of the anti christ. these people are hearing the
language of heroism, we need to show them that it's not heroism but terrorism stories emerged of increasingly gruesome violence. people poured out of the region into neighboring countries and then in a makeshift flotilla heading across the eastern mediterranean to southern europe. hundreds of thousands continued to flee their homes in search of asylum. i spoke with a head of the u.s. committee for refugees and immigrants about their desperate journeys. joining us to talk about it, a senior vice president for global engagement committee. he directed the off of refugee resettlement understand president obama. if you're in trouble somewhere in the world and you want to come to the united states, compared to other places is it easy or hard to get into this country? >> it's quite difficult to come
to this country. there is few ways of coming to this country through a process. sometimes it would take up to two years, sometimes it may take up to 10 years. the process is not easy. if you have 60 million refugees and if you bring in 10,000 or 70,000, that's a drop in the sea. the process is not easy. it requires a lot of security clearance, a lot of preparation. it's not a very easy process we're known around the world in having large numbers of immigrants. how is it different if you're a refugee? >> the refugees are mostly from a refugee camp. immigrants are coming for employment or they have family here. the process is quite different. refugees are going through a
completely different process and than immigrants. since 1975 we have resettled over 3 million refugees. in 1980 we managed to resettle over 200,000 refugees from south-east asia after the war in vietnam. so we have a long history of providing refugee resettlement in this country even though our country is part of the refugee history a lot of people who helped the united states on the ground in south-east asia did eventually come here, but if we were to compare the number of people who have been able to come legally from afghanistan and iraq, where united states forces were fighting for years, is that a large number? >> i'm not sure whether it's a large number, but i think the good thing is that at least you any iraqi working with the u.s. government is going through a process to come here. i think we managed to bring in
quite a large number of iraqis or afghanis. we came up with a separate visa for them there have been complaints that the process is very slow. it's dangerous when they're back in afghanistan and considered collaborators >> i agree with you. we have been asking the administration to expedite the process. some of these folks are working for the u.s. government. so we have a much better understanding of who they are, but, again, i think being a post the/11, the security proceed - 9/11, the security process makes quick to have a deployment of staff and then processing refugees immediately after that this is a story that you understand not only from the point of view of a government official, but you lived this, didn't you? >> absolutely. i was a refugee myself in the 1980s. i came to this country in
1982, but 1982 to 2001 is a completely different process. we have a long history of refugees refugees. since 1980 we managed to bring in three million refugees from so many places, bosnia, iran, iraq and vietnam and other places. i think one of the things people don't understand is refugees are probably the most vetted people to come to this country, whether now or before during our two and a half year run inside story has devoted a lot of coverage to mass shootings, to the massacre in the black church to the attack on an office christmas party. a beg part of any effort to keep guns out what will be agreed to be the wrong hands will rest with gun dealers.
i found begun dealers get talked about a lot and don't get enough chances to speak for themselves. we invited a panel of begun dealers to inside story to talk about their role on the front lines of the gun debate. right now, as we discussed before, licensed gun dealers have to run background checks and face-to-face sellers don't. is that unfair? does it create a burden on you that other sellers who are deriving a good living from with? >> i want to know what other sellers are doing not licensed. i don't know a single one. at the gun shows i go to, i don't see people who are unlicenceed, who are in the business. i see some people liquidating a collection, their own collection, maybe somebody who says, i saw this at a gun show where it was cheap and i bought it and i sell it. i see that that person doesn't have to
use much discretion on who they sell it too. they just want the make-up in their hands-- money in their hands >> that is true. that being said, i've noted the gun people are some of the most honest people ever. seriously. if there was anything wrong with that other guy, they're thot going to do it. -- not going to do it. most people do form a.m. bill of sales-- formal bill of sales with somebody that they know. i collect old russian guns. well, i know somebody who will buy this. there are few people out there who are not licenceed and in the business. that is already illegal. if you're in the business and you're doing this as a livelihood, it is on the books you need to get a licence. it's already there that's a big part of what the president talked about, who is a gun dealer for the purposes law and statute. they talked about deriving of the principle motive being property which i think a lot of people selling gun is their motivation, isn't it?
>> yes. owe would say so. at least for people who are doing it for that purpose. like you were saying, you have a lot of times people will be liquidating a collection. you see older gentlemen who have collected guns and they're now in their 70s and 80s, so they will get a table at the show and sell their personal guns. they're not trying to derive a profit. they're trying to liquidate an estate essentially they also operate in a very different environment from you. they have less to lose than you do. they? >> they would still have to ensure that the individual is a resident of their state, has a valid ichl d. often times a lot of those private-- valid id. oftentimes a lot of those will have a permit, but they're not required to do the background check like we are.
that's a true statement the background checks are not always accurate. they don't kick out the right people, they sometimes deliver false positives. do you know why someone is being rejected if someone comes back from the background check process saying, no, don't sell this guy a gun? >> generally no. you go through the online system, it will pop back a proceed, delayed or deny. if it's a delay, a lot of times we will go out - people will say something. we can also look them up in a court case system and see why they're not, but the feds or the knick system doesn't tell us why one thing the president talked about was going after people who knew they weren't supposed to own guns but were trying to buy them >> this is a major issue. they don't - for instance, in my state it must be your third or
fourth felony for you to get time. if you get caught with a gun, probation. they don't go after people who do straw purchaseses which is how they end up in crime. bad guy has a girlfriend, goes into a gun store clean and approvalable >> yes. not from an old guy selling his collection. it is done through straw purchases. then they don't prosecute people who do and who use guns in crime are there people who shouldn't have a gun and do you have a role in deciding who that is? can people show up in your store and you size them up and you think i don't want to sell them a gun? >> absolutely. there are people who shouldn't have firearms. we reserve the last right of refusal. we can choose not to sell that firearm regardless of is there an approval or not if they pass a background
check it doesn't feel right to you, you can say you're not going to sell them a gun? >> absolutely. we can stop the sale at any point in time. if we have any reason to suspect, we can stop that purchase if there were no background checks and more of this fell on the individual dealer, are you clear about who you wouldn't sell to or times or event where you just wouldn't sell? >> i've done that before when? >> you get people all the time. there's a lot of things. what is the cheapest gun you've got? what is the least amount of ammunition i can buy or a woman, one, two, three, four, five, i why? >> i just want that one. is this your first time? there's a tonne of things. also people who are slick who know what you want to hear. people who come into my shop
which i found out later on, a couple i remember clearly. they say the right things. they went home and unfortunately they shot themselves. it happens. they know how to say the right thing. it's up to us, obviously, screening people, to know this person is clearly out of their mind, something is wrong with them, something like that. i don't even go through the background check process. if there's something wrong with them, they don't even fill out the forms. it's up to us. we're the first line of defense and after that, even with somebody saying the right things, hopefully they get caught in the nik system does this lift the burden for you, having the background system? people find it intrusive and a pain in the neck and other places, but does it, as that first line that andy was talking about, in effect, keep it clean? keep it on the level that you
submit this to another authority? >> it doesn't relieve me of any burden. it reassures me that i'm not selling to a felon or on otherwise prohibited individual. we all look good in daylight, but that is what the system is for so we don't sell to a known criminal there's no blow back if you don't sell to somebody? they can't come back and say you have to sell me, can they? >> they can't force it. once again, we can always be held civilly liable. if somebody feels we're discriminating against them based on race or something, they could try and sue us for that, but the law gives us the - it's actually in the law that we can deny a sale to anybody that we don't feel should be buying a gun do you do that often? >> as often as necessary. >> absolutely life and death decisions, understanding america's hostage negotiating policy. we will hear from an american
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story. kidnappings have become a place of civil war in places like iraq, afghanistan. they use it as a sideline to fund their operations. we've seen some high profile abductions among americans, europeans, aid workers snatched to help the people who hold them for ransom. i spoke with a senator about the rules governing hostage negotiations and to a man who was himself once a hostage in iraq. joining he is the senator. welcome to the program. do you support a reformulation of the administration's policy toward dealing with the overseas? >> first, as you know, a man was recently killed who was a hostage. it was a tragic circumstance and i had a chance to visit with the
family on several occasions. so i think first and foremost that the u.s. has to have all its resources available to try to rescue those who are caught in these horrible circumstances. it has got to be a high priority. they have to have coordinated efforts among the different agencies that are involved and they have to have direct contact with the family. we have to understand also that negotiating with terrorists can be counter productive. we under that. we have a policy well understood in america about negotiating with terrorists. on the other hand we know there will be efforts made by family and we have to be mindful of those efforts and make sure that we don't interfere with the legitimate efforts made by families of individuals who are found in these circumstances so just over ten months in, there is a raid on the compound where you're being held, stunning video of the actual rescue.
did you even realise what was down? >> not at first because that morning i had woken up and i heard some helicopters around lunchtime and it wasn't unusual to hear helicopters because i could hear them flying over from time to time, but on this day it sounded like they were landing on the house which i was held in. i heard running and yelling and i didn't know exactly what was going on until the soldier jumped down in the little underground room i was in and appointed at me and said "are you roy? " our news cast did the valuable and important job of telling you what was happening right now. on this program we took the assignment of fleshing out the implications of events, of playing them forward, explaining the consequences. just a few short weeks ago the
supreme court's most conservative justice died unexpectedly at a hunting lodge in texas. the fight to replace justice scalia took shape almost immediately. i spoke with an author and attorney and the naacp about what the vacancy means for the cases on the docket right now. gentlemen, i don't mean to suggest for a second that the situation is onpress dented, that we've never had eight members before, but it is the peculiar situation where everyone is understood to be wearing blue shirts or red shirts under their black robes >> i'm not sure that this is the first time you've had a divided court, five to four decisions predominating. that is true for many years since the chief justice was appointed in 1969. i think there is not necessarily going to be disorder. a large percentage of the court's decisions are unanimous. the difficult ones are off times
five to four, about but in this instance, if it's so difficult the court could carry over, reargue the case. they orderly end in june. they take three months recess. it would slow things down a little bit and maybe in the interim they only grant certiorari on the cases where they don't need four to four. that means the lower court decision is disturbed and doesn't set a precedent when that happens, send it back down to the lower appellate level, does anybody get another bite of the apple because it wasn't decided at the chief appellate level? >> i think the parties in that case probably wouldn't. the decision below is affirmed by a divide court and no opinion from the supreme court issues. there may be further proceedings in that case in lower courts on other issues, but unlikely that the issue that went to the supreme court would be
relitigated in that case. the fact that the court chose to take the case in the first instance kind of sends a signal to everybody else that in the future once the seat is filled on the supreme court they may want to take it up they may see an issue that they take in the first place >> that's right you've been over seeing amicus briefs siding with various petitioners in various cases. the ones that have already been heard by the court, know there is someone who won't be able to vote. do they freeze the game at that point or they just go ahead with the missing man formation? >> there are a few options. they could decide the case notwithstanding and if it's a unanimous decision great r or if it's four and four, the lower decision would be affirmed. there are some other complicated scenarios like in fisher v effects as, the diversity case
where the justice is also recused, so you have a decision potentially by only seven justices and it wouldn't be a tie, obviously, couldn't be a tie in that instance. there's also the option of holding over cases for yet another term for reargument which is possible, within the discretion of the court, has a mixed history as to how often it has happened but it is an option we're looking back at the life and times of inside story. a too short life, but really interesting times. after a young killer walked into a church in south carolina and moved on a bible class, one casualties was the confederate flag flying over the state capital. the new pope francis made his first visit to the u.s. even as americans in never before seen numbers were deciding one-by-one they were going to leave their religion. we look at that in a moment. it's "inside story"..
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a sim symbol of pride for some and hatred for others were you surprised that even before the victims of this terrible murder were even buried, people were arguing about the flag? >> it was more like shock because of the tied that turned so quickly, of public-elected officials, the governor and nikc yshg haley-- nicky haley and the mayor, who was always a supporter of bringing the flag down. also vice president of the national action network and i met and talked with the reverend where we were. it didn't seem possible to be moved so quickly. it should not have taken the lives of the member of the state
senate and the other people, most of whom i knew. i had close relationships with several of them. to think that they had to die to make this happen is bitter sweet because it means that south carolina had to a chance to do what they say, that the flag represents slavery, hatred, racism treason. that's what it represents and no glossing over it will ever change that. we knew that 15 years ago when we took it off the capital, we should have put it in a museum where it should have been placed were you surprised that 48/p 2 hours after this terrible crime people were once again hours? >> not at all. i think the battle flag has, again, echoing the remarks of
the reverend, betrayed its own existence in reference to its historic principles by those who have chosen to take the flag to places that it was never meant to be and recognised something that has been long forgotten or should have been. to hear somebody say that with we're still there or that flag is meaningful and referenced to what it is, it is an historic battle flag that was shown in battle, but that historic battle flag should be preserved in historic places and not on public display with organizations or groups let's expand on that. what happened in the decades after the war was over during reconstruction, during the early part of the 20th century when there were still aged confederate veterans living in communities across the south. was the use of that flag
changed, distorted as a piece of symbolism, was it taken out of view? >> i believe it was. i think that is just ramped itself up to be continued throughout history that we see today. even my great grandfather recognised after the war that the confederate states of america was behind us, that the unification of the country was most important and the allegiance was to the american flag. the battle flag is historic in reference to what it stooped for in reverence to that. terrible conflict, but that is the only historic functionablity that it should have if you get into a car and get off the interstate and drive the back roads of america, you will see the flag in all kinds of contexts in all kinds of places. when you drive on those roads and you see it in front lawns and businesses, what is it saying to you now in 2015?
>> what it says to me automatically as an african-american is that whoever is driving that car, whoever has that flag, hates black people. that may not be what they're saying, but that is the message i receive. a good friend of mines, former state-- friend of mine, former state senator, told us a few years ago that anyone who tells you that the flag still has value and that the flag represents this greatness that they continue to talk about, didn't have any relatives who fought in the civil war and really have no idea of the kind of carnage that the war involved. his grandfather was a confederate veteran and his grandfather didn't want to fly the flag. he said furl the flag and don't bring up the conflict to me
because things that i saw and know that happened in that war should never have been done. he is saying when you have the flag and say it's a great thing, then you are misinformed on history we've seen history made on our watch. one of the most inspiring moments was when pope francis took a world wind tour of new york, philadelphia and washington dc. we had a group discuss this welcoming the pope as he comes through the grand entrance. the pope recently took on people who say that he is a leftist, a socialist, an moxist, he was ban dering with reporters-- bantering on the plan with journalists-- plan with journalists.
in a speech to congress he was saying, what, they're saying i'm a lefty. he seems to be walking a fine line here. >> he is walking a fine line. lick social-- catholic social teaching has been trying to find a way between communism and accident happen at allism to find a more sustainable kind of capitalism. what the pope is trying to embody. he is trying to find a middle way. it was interesting that in this speech he did reply to some of those criticisms that were made on the plane on the way back from bolivia where he talked about the capitalism being the love of money. a reporter on the plane said what about hardworking people who pay their taxes? he mentions hardworking people who pay their taxes. he is a pope that listens, but he expects other people to listen. it is no good democrats and
republicans taking from the pope's speech the bits that they like. he will expect them to listen to the parts of it that they find uncomfortable. it is a very carefully written speech. people really need to read it rather than just listen into it especially as he delivered it in that kind of hesitant english. he has been working on his english and he has improved a lot this summer, but still you need to read that to get to grips with it we just saw glimpses of the pope heading through the crowded streets of new york, a city with a large catholic population, but millions who are not who might be interested in seeing the pope. this is a man because of his position is a global celebrity. joseph stalin asked how many divisions does the pope have, referring to his military power. obviously, he doesn't have any. in 2015 what does he have instead of an army? >> i think the pope first of all
has a pastural quality that everyone is responding to. the fact is that this pope has been able to do for the church in america what his two predecessors for many years were unable to do, which is to bring people together in the center rather than driving them to the edges. he has that magnetic quality and it is in his message. it is this idea that we must set aside left or right, we must set aside extremism. i found it remarkable today that he said all religions can be extremists, and he dis-d.n.a.ed that-- disdained. he calls for people to walk in the center and care for each other. american people are resonating with that. people of all faiths is resonating with that. he is creating unity in this country where politicians have have created division. that's why people are cheering for him by the hundreds of thousands out in new york and washington and i'm sure they will be in
philadelphia he is being encountered as an influencer as a celebrrity. does it matter why they're there to hear you as long as they're there to hear you >> i don't think it matters at all. when in saint peter's square he says to shout jesus. he focuses on the core message. he didn't talk much about christ but the golden rule because he was reaching out to christians to the wider world. he wants this to have a universal appeal. of course, the way that he speaks most cogently, and you see this throughout, in my book i've got dozens of examples of this, is through his actions, not his words, and the thing i think the people remember most about this visit isn't the
speech to congress or the appearance at the white house, it's the little fiat, the man who is the leader of the biggest church of the world drives the smallest car. that's his message you saw in social media, and i've spent all day watching what people were saying, and poeflting after posting-- posting after posting began, i'm not a catholic but, and they would say what they like or didn't like about what the pope had to say. columnists. in the nation's largest and most read newspapers, letting slip in paragraph 3 or 4, i used to be a catholic, or i'm not a christian at all, but they still weighed in on what the pope had to say. is this part of the armament of this leader or any leader in the 21st sen century?
you don't get the mysterious grandeur that the pope had earlier, but you have something else >> i think this pope is really unusual in the way in which so many people have responded to him religion has been a common thread for many of our discussions, and freedom of religion came to the forefront during the same-sex marriage controversy. a kentucky court clerk refused to issue marriage licences to gay couples defying the supreme court ruling. inside story gave an equal voice to both sides of that debate so far is your clients are concerned, those who have gotten their licences, are they done? is this over? >> that's a good question. they have to have marriage certificates issued and there's no guarantee, especially after today, that the citizens of the county that kim davis was elected to represent and to
serve, are actually going to be able to continue getting their marriage licences. so i think all that is very unclear. what's perfectly clear is that we're going to be litigate thissing case for some time you saw kim davis leave jail today jubilant with a large number of citizens for the county, the people who put her there in the first place, cheering her on. what do you make of that? >> well, look, she is entitled to her opinions, she is entitled to her religious beliefs and we've never said anything to the contrary. we've never asked for her to be in jail. i think that is never a cause for jubilation when somebody is incarcerated. we certainly don't have any interest in her staying behind bars for any longer than is necessary, at least according to the court's view of things. the problem that the citizens may find themselves faced with now is that you've got an
elected official going back into office that has a stated purpose of imposing her own religious beliefs not only on all of her employees, her deputy clerks that are in her office, but also on the entire county that she was elected to serve. that is, obviously, a dangerous precedent. your prior guest would be surprised to know that there are two religion clauses in the amendment. one is an establishment clause which keeps the government from imposing the religion of an individual, one person's religious views, on an entire constituency. that is what she has done in this case free exercise cases come before high courts in this country again and again and again because, obviously, after 225 years we're not totally all settled on the same meaning. does this take us into new areas?
are there people who have a strong belief that their religious rights are trampled upon when other people do something and they allow it to happen? >> that's an old american tradition, to try and balance these two things. i think we're going to be struggling with it in the future. how do you protect the rights of conscience, at the same time up hold the rule of law. we've struggle with drawing lines between free rights and conscience. we work it out. i think we can in this instance too the culture provided all kinds of inspiration and interesting moments to ponder who we are in these early years of 21 st century. a founding father was threatened with demotion of the $10 bill and then enjoyed a time on the way. gambling and doping. it's "inside story"..
man and the look at the $10 bill. >> now facing a rethink of the $10 bill, what is the hamilton appreciation society make of that move? >> it seems very surprising because secretary lewer mentioned that our currency informs the nation about who we are and the current $20 bill with andrew jackson was an honor of slaves, a trader-- owner of slaves, a trader of slaves and his history with indians was not respectful. in contrast that with alexander hamilton, he started as founding trustee of hamilton college. he said that slaves had probably good capabilities as us except for their station in life. he was a leading abolishionist. he never owned a slave.
it seems surprising to us that hamilton would be diminished in a way and the $20 would remain intact yet in 2015 you do recognise that it's high time we had a woman or at least recognised that half of our society is making a contribution to our no? >> i agree, ray. we've been big cheer leaders and partners with barbara howard and susan stone with their success which allows hamilton on the 10s to remain. we support them and the fact that there is a petition now at 46,000 votes hopefully through your audiences we can get up to that 100,000 by labor day what is it like to open up your wallet and see your great, great, great, great grandfather on the bill? >> thanks for having me. when i do open my wallet up and hamilton is there, which he
frequently is, it's a great reminder for me and for everybody else in this country that does that to see one of the individuals that played such a significant role in the formation of this country were you surprised by secretary lew's announcement? >> yeah. i was surprised. i had had made one trip to the treasurer ry. -- treasury. i knew that there was going to be an announcement of putting a woman of the bill but i had no idea of diminishing the role of alexander hamilton on the bill then there's the next generation. we've talked about protecting america's youth from a wide variety of dangers. in the same moment we encouraged young people to stay active, play hard, yet some of the most perilous laces for them-- places for them these days is their athletic fields and gyms
we're looking at youth sports and injuries. joining us now cj ruuckre a previous professional player. this is a world that you know from the inside. what do you tell your own son about the physical sacrifices of playing? do you even want him to play? >> being a former athlete myself and looking at physically what was innate, i was born with, i think i shared a sentiment of many dad's wanting their sons to go further in the sport they i actually went. i do emphasize on a daily basis, much to his dismize, that physical fitness is huge. it keeps you protected and it also makes you more of a performer athlete when you get up in the
morning do you feel those years that you were playing a lot across the year? >> i feel every day. i think a lot of the injuries, i was a high jumper and impact player, my knees are constant pain, lower back constant pain, upper back pains come and go. several areas of concern you hear that and you conclude what, cameron? >> i mean, i like to play and i want to go as far as i can, further than me went just because then that's just a great - that's a great accomplishment sure. >> i mean, the long-term effects, i'm starting to feel some of it now with the growing pains, but it's just part of life
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