tv The Stream 2017 Ep 173 Al Jazeera October 30, 2017 10:32pm-11:01pm AST
he has pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators over his relationship with russia spain's top prosecutor has called for catalonia former leaders to be charged with sedition embezzlement of funds and abuse of authority after last week's declaration of independence spain's central government has not taken direct control of the region kenya's election board has announced that over a kenya won the presidential election rerun with a ninety eight percent of the vote there was anger in the kenyan city of kisumu an opposition stronghold soon after the announcement was made the election board says the election was free fair and credible despite the vote being postponed in some areas kenyatta also ran without a significant challenger after opposition leader ryan a dingo pulled out the turnout for the vote was just on the thirty nine percent of the nineteen point six million registered voters because it was boycotted by the opposition seven the round of talks aimed at ending serious war have begun in the
kazakhstan capital delegates are expected to call for a cease fire between government forces and rebel groups for at least six months those are your headlines you're up to date stay with us the stream is coming up next but later. ok today a look at two stories big in the headlines and very loud on social you're the stream live on al-jazeera english and on you tube in india is the economic boom
about to go bust at a low year has declared independence spain has filed criminal charges against its leaders so where do things go from here because the law is following just some of the wide ranging conversations on both sides of the fiery catalonia debate make. today. has changed again a new country is claiming it's. catalonia. well since the government declared independence from spain friday online conversation praising the decision has grown with a number of hashtags on twitter trending immediately after the declaration phrases like welcome catalonia and the cuts a lot of republicans here popped up in tweets from people sharing their excitement for an independent counsel but not everyone in the region support secession from spain hundreds of thousands of people rallied in the streets of barcelona sunday and favor of spain some using cut the line and spanish hashtags translating to all of us are catalonia to express their support for unity and disappointment in the
decision still the independent separation is inspiring other independence movements around the world as for scotland on facebook writes congratulations catalonia scotland next. freedom is not given freedom is taken just took their freedom friends home and they ask for it nigeria will never give you freedom you have to take your freedom from nigeria so what do you think independence movement we want to hear from you tweet me and bring up your thoughts to today's gusts and he thank you so much joining us now in barcelona g'day villanova is a pro independent active race and al jazeera. abdul hamid good to have you both with us do you know do you have a broad smile on your face what he's going on right now down on the ground to make you smile so broadly. well i'm pretty. convinced that things will
go right in the long term look at catamounts going on between the two governments and. their love of things going on behind the scenes but i'm pretty confident that my side. will be able to bring forward the freedom of capital people even though i do understand there are many companies who don't agree with me but i think that this is a huge opportunity to build a new country a new state a new administration for catalonia and for all the catalans to go forward on the start of one to ten jordi one i know absolutely everything that's going on ten being extremely confusing where are you on the scale of confusion right now. i would say zero nine and two both positive and something in other words
i don't really know not absolutely sure what's going on because there's a lot of stuff as i say going on behind closed doors. but there are a series of things that make me pretty confident that things are going ahead you know the works this is not a stalemate anymore. i think that in fact some mediation has been going on behind the scenes but neither side can get to it especially of the spanish side but that's just the feeling i have been speaking with people. throughout the day another the weekend there was serious concern about what was going on because apparently the declaration had been made but it hasn't the spanish flag is still flying above the palace of the presidential palace of the generally just go. but. there is some. strange she was sucking up.
just like. a week ago and that could be what's leading to some of the confusion online about people saying they don't actually know what's going on here says tweet from nuria another resident of catalonia she says i work in a big company where people have different opinions on friday after that the declaration we continue to work as normal what do you see this week nuria saying life was normal on friday today what is life like on the streets what is the mood like. no i mean. sure you. go around barcelona as if nothing is happening. packed with people. traffic is flowing people are going to work.
very normal but then you go up to certain places like the square where i am and that building behind me. the. government and that has been a focal point throughout the day and a lot of people coming to check what's going on simply because no one has heard of the. deposed leader. he appeared on social media pictures of him walking around his home town she day is the first day of the week people were expecting. members of his cabinet or he tried to get into this building he would be stopped by the police because of this coming from madrid none of that happened and then throughout the day we've been running around rumors about his whereabouts at the moment. belgium at least maybe also brussels. said that he is
in belgium and he doesn't know for how long. people say there was a declaration of independence but then down the leaders and nothing has happened since certainly it is a very confusing time for. the people i met here in barcelona and as you mentioned there are divisions there are a lot of people who are against all of this. silent majority polls show that they could be actually a majority. vote. they had this massive rally yesterday but they feel completely left out angered about the situation and they say that this is a regional government and political parties went ahead pretending. basically represent them too but they're not being represented so you have that sort of anger and anxiety lingering even though when you look at the city everything seems
absolutely normal but i'm just jumping on your social media feed your twitter feed here and we've got cattle and spanish fly to the pregnancy rally in barcelona the message we have cattle and spaniards. and independents just looking at this very different picture from monday obviously money is a work day. but that balance between the activists who are delighted with what's going on are the people yesterday were saying that yes please continue. the people at the rally yesterday were had both the catalan flag and the spanish not the independence they kept on making the difference saying cats alignment and spain are two sides of the same coin they were saying and actually they were talking in catalan and the speeches given were in the council and so they were actually making a point just showed
a cartel and identity but they simply did not want to be part of an independent country when he said even maybe said maybe the idea is ok but not on their conditions at the moment they see that they have a better life if they're part of spain. yeah ok it might make just say something guy throws the ball a pointer like to me is that first the catalan is not does it's to recognise language by any linguist and secondly there's an issue here which concerns me which is that. your correspondent said that they felt left out now in fact those who are leaving them out of those who refuse to allow them to participate in a referendum those who say that the referendum is illegal that's who is leaving them out because what the catalan administration wants is for them to vote as well for them to vote no but the spanish administration is insisting in not going to
allow a referendum saying it's illegal and thoughts it's putting them in a position where they can't feel they can vote and i'd like to see them vote no if that's what it wants i mean the thing will be really clear if a referendum were allowed and those who are incredible yes and those who are against vote no instead what the spanish administration has proposed is that there are these huge rally used on both sides. which try to represent each of those son but we don't really know who's who and how many of us there are so it's impossible to come to a final decision on the issue thirty villanova i know how to add to her needs i know that we are going to be following this almost every news bulletin certainly for the next couple of weeks thank you very much for being part of the struggle today make up. well now we head to india where our next story on the indian economy
starts with a tumble film four million people in india marked to their tweets with the name about blockbuster tumble film or soulless mom with a movie isn't just making headlines for a screenplay it's in the center of a political controversy with india's ruling party b j p problem j.p. president argued the scenes create the wrong impression of india's government schemes and called for their removal there are conflicting reports about whether the film's producers will cut the scenes out of the movie but opposition lawmakers fired back with their thoughts this in pieces notice to filmmakers a law is coming you can only make documentaries praising the government's policies and indian national congress vice president gandhi tweets mr modi cinema is a deep expression of tunnel culture and language don't try to monetize tumble pride by interfering in mosul with supporters of the film have also started their own twitter war pitting merciless hero against india's prime minister modi but while
three hundred thousand people have been using about how shag modi hasn't personally stepped into the fray thank you many prime minister modi campaigned on a platform of akshay did in all good days but it is not been we selected in the state of the economy with the monetise ation in twenty six steyn and also the g.s.t. from this year joining us from mumbai that coal is an economics commentator and author of india's big government the intrusive state and how it's hurting us and in noida cash shop is a writer for forbes asia gentleman it's good to have you here let's let's unpack this idea of the goods and services tax simple i'm packing if that is it possible let me show you this should mean but say to us about the g.s.t. is the systematic way of robbing people a perspective that is a how would you explain the g.s.t. for us as a global audience. so g.s.t. is like you know any of the value added tax which is introduced you know in
countries across the world. the problem in india is it has been introduced and implemented that is you know that has led to a huge mess you know the government sort of how did the g.s.t. in on july first when the tieback born which is at the heart of the g.s.t. wasn't really there to order novel back what does happen is that there would be too many really you know typically value added taxes sex successful if there are you know two to three late said best india has close to five to six attacks. all the number of that what has also happened is that when the changes have been introduced since the g.s.t. was introduced in july first in fact the joke going on now is that even the accountants can't keep track of how many changes have been introduced so. so there
is a tweet here from someone who might agree with that joke this is not mahathir says the g.s.t. is a big blunder they should have created a proper framework and launched it after winning in twenty nineteen minutes elections small business owners hate g.s.t. and he goes on to say there was rates there are extreme for hotel industries and small businesses and they've caused a lot of outrage around can you talk to us about what the g.s.t. means for small business owners fruit sellers on the street or the people that sell gold people with their own shops what is this meant for them. so basically whatever critics that i'd like a few things that you see actually is one consolidated tax under which various other taxes came together. it is implemented all across the economy and under the umbrella you had smaller businesses players are entrepreneurs who are impacted at worst currently now the reason for this is like with aig said. people don't have
enough information regarding what g.s.t. is about they don't g.s.t. is for their good but why is it for their good nobody knows that are probably that woman attorneys out there. which are trying to explain the same thing for the small a little food seller he probably would have issues regarding idiocy i mean most of the people who are from the last round of the society they have the fear of unknown or have because they don't know anything there's not enough information and of course like the different labs if you're a restaurant owner not an easy with a slab is different then atheist lab so if for example a person goes to eat food and on stage i just sat down for a second because i can't keep up with the difference laps slavin a differing rank spec fic like you know isn't right it's a different good that you might want to buy that will have different kinds of.
correct so you have something something something like that slab for you have fibers and twelve wasn't in person so if you're for example a c. restaurant eating in an easy restaurant then you'll be eating burgers and button on easy restaurant would be twenty percent similarly. for example most a little controversy in the film you're talking about in that there's a dialogue regarding the health care services the health care services are apparently exempted from the tax but then there are certain medicines which i think you wouldn't attacks so people are actually confused and because a village they're having trouble and of course feel in doing business everyday business. and i'm going to add to that yes sure but let me just show our audience if i thought maybe that just before you jump in the idea of a good and sales tax and goods and services that is not unusual there are many places around the world we pick some of them so you can see how india can pass let's have a look easy in fifteen percent last year twenty percent is quite high sweden has
twenty five percent india has different pacific different percentage of different levels for different kind of goods different than that and that's what a cut on was saying about the different slabs that but actually lots of different countries have different rights for different kinds of goods and services. so that what we're about to say ok so basically i wanted to make two points the first point was regarding the fruit salad i mean the fruit salad the small fruit seller would not get impacted by merely because g.s.t. kicks in only if you're to know what is greater than two million rupees or you know . that's the first point the second point is regarding multiple rates you know what happens is it creates needless confusion and it also creates inequality in some cases so to give you an example you know condoms. there is no g.s.t. on going to but as on temple and source energy pads as we call them in india we
just today to struggle posting so you know i haven't seen many other places around the world the second is very annoying for lots of women who why would this not be something that everybody has to use every woman has to is ok to continue. ok so you know basically what has happened is. you know. the implementation they have not been prepared for it. an act some level you know taxes and any kind of tax i mean this need not be a value added tax are successful when the simple well to exist because at the end of the day you know the government just screams the rules it's the people who need to follow those rules and pay their tax and if the rules are not simple. you know it sort of creates problems i mean. it's interesting you say that because there's at least one person on twitter this is a class he says this is much simpler than what it needs to be the g.s.t.
will help consumers and traders as they are now will be no harassment inspector rise and he also says the complexity of the previous system made logistics very onerous and costly unofficial bribes for commonplace so it seems to say he seems to be saying that this will alleviate some of those problems you agree with. i don't you know simply because the earlier system was not as you know wide ranging as the current system is you know at some level the earliest system concerned only the corporate players and the big institutional players know this g.s.t. or the other level goes don't do the lowest common denominator and it is not simple enough it may be simpler than the previous system but it is still not simple for an average you know small entrepreneur to follow the rules and regulations and at the same time have enough time left to carry out his normal activities i mean i can
give you a simple example you know i. i mean i pay a service tax as a freelance professional and you know i used to probably spend one day a month or even less than that preparing. documents and everything so as to be able to play the deck that. now it goes you know i see now we've spent close to four to five times in the time that i used to spend only or so it's not so it's simpler than the earlier system in many cases but it is not simple. in many other cases ok so you can archival and want to say it's. ok because what we can all get can i say one thing on this what the vehicle just thing and i think this is really i mean we are in video one has remember the g.s.t. was just implemented in july so in two months time you're actually understanding the system and then implemented ink in their everyday light so what he's
experiencing over repeated of time as we get more accustomed to the g.s.t. we not clearly not generally not really no i don't agree because of the so the fact liberation actually i was going to finish because he allowed local sales to start with a lot of stocks continue coming so it's also what i was trying to say was because earlier on as with any process whether it's a learning how to cycle it seems difficult early on as time passes by the number of hours between the board for a certain purposes such as what we call a think go down and hence you would move on to better things and efficiency increases until that's productivities that's how most of our humans function and that's the behavior it fine. well i mean that has got to be able to say i don't agree it's you know this is the sort of so that's obviously you know it's been propagated by you know people who support this government i mean having been
a part of the earlier system and not being part of the current system i can tell you that the current system is in any complicated obviously one gets used to what one gets used to everything in life that does not mean that the system itself is simple enough i mean there are many things that can be done in order to simplify this current system so that you know more and more people come onto the g.s.t. bandwagon i mean for starters i mean you know there are six to seven groups it's just bizarre i mean if you have seven leaders you will obviously end up creating confusion still so so you need to sort of you know we do live down but good to be there so that show people can understand and welcome the suggestive of something that i found at. the school go was just online trying to help people navigate what the g.s.t. actually ran and how to navigate it legally laughs so why didn't this conversation
out a little bit online with people talking about the current state of the economy and what the g.s.t. means for that this is via you tube live no poll says i had faith in prime minister modi in the first two years but i completely lost faith this is done more blunders than good and its policies are only for show business this is of course speaking of the economy car and take us into your health check up on the economy of course we're also a year since the day monetization that a lot of tweets about that as well where would you say the economy is right now. well i would say i mean. they invention is there but execution has been a problem because of the fact that we're doing twenty. also in different sectors rather than just going through everything in one area or one step at a time we are. doing too many things i mean we are trying to transform the economy rather than requiring it but part of plan b.
monetary relief. was done with certain economic and. political wrangling and it had its benefits in the palm of it led to the big. increase in use a problem for example when big industry in india had been prominent there were a lot of people who were white born or for making their money transactions somehow magically baxley were right at the end of the show the state of india economy how would you finish that sentence the state of the community bottom is in transition right now the next three four months or six months we're going to see something better and believe we should not be right up to six months to get better higher rate of growth as predicted by world bank i am i so got on then visit thank you so much for joining us here on the stream we really appreciate your insight about the indian economy right now bleak house is conversation going on like i will end with
this week it's negative so this is not the only representation but safe says the hasty decision to implement g.s.t. is an imminent failure as it lacks careful nuance and policy making so we'll have to check in on that later absolutely as always our conversations continue online using hash tag day stream and of course you can watch us every day monday through thursday on lucienne at nineteen thirty g.m.t. that's what you'll see next.
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