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the confusion online about people saying they don't actually know what's going on join the conversation at this time on al-jazeera. or the benefit of. documentaries that open your eyes. at this time on al-jazeera. and other top stories on al-jazeera russia's foreign minister is warning that a u.s. coalition plan to build a syria border security force could break up the country the plan is also being
criticized by turkey and the bashar al assad government the u.s. says the thirty thousand strong force will help stabilize syria palestinian leaders have recommended that the palestine liberation organization suspend its recognition of israel they've been taking part in a meeting of the central council focusing on the american recognition of jerusalem as israel's capital the council also declared that the us has lost its ability to mediate between israel and palestine. foreign ministers from japan south korea and the united states are among senior officials from twenty nations heading to canada to discuss how to strengthen sanctions on north korea u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson will co-host the talks in vancouver on tuesday countries they will be seeking new ways to intercept vessels at sea that may be defying u.n. sanctions by carrying refined oil products to pyongyang but north korea's main trading partner china won't be at the conference donald trump and choosing paying
had a telephone conversation on tuesday focusing on the korean peninsula china's state media says she's message was that the easing of tensions must continue agent brown has more from beijing. i don't think china expected to receive an invitation to attend this international gathering in vancouver after all it is not an ally really of the united states or canada any more than russia is russia of course is also going to be absent both these countries have very different ideas about how to reduce tensions on the korean peninsula neither country favors military action or more sanctions against north korea what russia and china want is this freeze for freeze formula whereby north korea would cease development of its nuclear program in return for the united states and south korea halting their annual military exercises will the united states has said that is a nonstarter so i think perhaps that if russia and china had been present at this
conference they would have proved to be a distraction now china is pouring scorn on this conference they say without key players all the important players it says in this crisis it's doubtful that anything meaningful can be achieved at least sixty one children have died from measles and malnutrition in the past four months in a remote part of indonesia their deaths are being blamed on a lack of doctors working in a smart regency which is located in the impoverished province severson is more from indonesia's capital. these children have been dying over the past four months and only now officials here the government here is raising alarm what is happening is that these children and their parents have no or hardly any access to health officials in that particular area there are only nine doctors for twenty two hundred twenty four villages and they are all based in the capital of the district which means that these children with their parents have to travel for many many
hours by foot by boat to reach any doctor and that's of course a very challenging thought sometimes even don't have any money to reach to go on this journey and there have been reports that children have been dying on the on the way simply trying to reach a doctor it's a forgotten part of indonesia historically has only become part of indonesia in the one nine hundred sixty s. many have been aiming for independence since then because they felt that they have been neglected by the by the capital since nearly fifteen thousand people have fled to evacuation centers in the philippines of volcano began erupting on the island of luzon lava has been pouring in from mt may own since saturday authorities increased its alert level on sunday and are warning that an explosive eruption could happen within the next few days perp francis is arrived in chile for his first stop on a visit to south america the pontiff landed in the capital but they're being taken scenes ahead of his visit with five churches vandalized in recent days protests are
indeed there were over forty charges as i recall but primarily it was material support to terrorism and would you say they use a social welfare activity to win the hearts and minds of the palestinian people exactly what they do well i think this material support statute is a guilt by association statute i couldn't google you and find out anything about your work background is that correct i've googled this morning i thought i'm in finance and. i will add to what the had a limb your own and that with them i'm going to do most of the land foundation justice department is alleging that the holy land foundation is supporting terrorism because they're working with zakat committees but we have a long list of projects funded by the us government who worked with zakat committees and we have the documentation to show this and there was not a single charge that the where the jury was unanimous so the case was over we won
but soon after that the judge asked the prosecutor will retry the case and he says yes your honor i believe that we will. the second trial was held in two thousand and eight and then the second trial was in front of judge so lease a different judge from the first trial and in fact he led in even more evidence for the government than the first judge. big difference in the two trials is i think probably the government put on probably too much evidence in overwhelmed jewry. with too much evidence our remember in general the evidence was presented probably in
a more. simple and logical way based more on the timeline there were even more burning buses during the second trial there was a horrible video of people stamping on the american flag that had nothing to do with holy land except that there were four main differences. the four differences were first the government presented testimony from a man named ahmed true bhaji who was a cooperate with the government mr schorr bashi had gotten into trouble embezzling from somebody unrelated to holy land but he had briefly worked with the holy land so the government went to him and said if you testify against holy land we'll give you a break on your other case and he testified that everyone in power stein knew that holy land was connected to hamas even though he'd never been to the west
bank and all of his testimony was based on newspaper articles or talking to people a second piece of evidence was from mr robert bryant who came from the treasury department mr mcbride was permitted to testify in the second trial that it didn't matter whether and if he was placed on the list or not that under circumstances that he described contributed money to an organization like that could nonetheless violate the law and material support the government was permitted as its third piece of new haven't to call an expert witness named steve inside who had been on the national security council who is a well known expert in the area of the middle east and mr simon was allowed to testify that the designation of hamas as a terrorist organization helped the united states in various ways including being able to station troops in the mideast and also avoiding another nine eleven style attack on the united states there was another. piece of evidence it was actually
three documents that the israelis had seized from arafat's compound. they i think two of them were handwritten nobody knew where they came from who wrote them one of them said something about holy land being connected to hamas we had objected to those documents in the first trial because they were so clearly unreliable the the genesis. the basis for the information the moves were so poorly said the judge had excluded them in the second trial the judge allowed them in the . part of mark. i want to walk on.
camera. and i have. the problem we had was that the government hired an expert in the second trial and the government was able to keep jurors who we didn't want and they tried to pick a jury that had the least amount of education we got rid of a lot of jurors and did it i think is a really good job but they ended up with a jury that was. much more favorable to the government my name is my feet out of the closet. and as i look at all these beautiful faces for my dear brothers a sisters i want to tell you i'm extremely proud of you for being here showing support for me and for brother still carry on for brother of
a son and for all those people who are seeking justice this is a point that i owe it in english so done critique my grammar wire my brain bug my tongue. tabb my thoughts if you. examine my walk and study my cock and dig my dreams with you to scare and strip me down and check me out search my past from door to head to capture every call i ever made give you ears to my serious jokes translated this and me a cup that just to impress you d.c. folks. i hear you say giving cloggs to naked orphans was across all childrens of those who died of war not and
it can all go dark. i should have sent them to death for all four things that they're going to get there nothing but terrorists. and none of them was an almost kid i beg your pardon you're not judge the only this is without those saw i wrote last across i am calling. it i'm going to vote for the just that will do that for just witnessed. the government as though it was a tool. for was the clear. i learned if there had been a previous trial which indian to have hung jury and that and that now these were
these men were being retried so so i began to read and about the holy land foundation i began to read about palestine and the history of palestine and i learned a lot that i did not know that every day at noon i started to go into the trials we began from project fear we organized an ongoing. protest which was that which was also feeding that feeding the poor just outside the federal building we were giving the same symbol it's ok to feed poor people it's not a crime to feet to feed people who organized buses to come and bring people to the trials we wanted to feel the court room with people and and in that that was successful they were the courtroom was usually feel with people.
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out a little sort of to make an issue i had to handcuff friday i'm here for him out really what are you doing with them having been trying to enter the club with more terrorists over there like a flight threat that would be your own thought for how the command ship fashion if you had to come and talk and you could have after your many a trophy bob if. you were there over and had the most. family how could johnny my love of the myth of a new heaven been too much would. cause him to tell of the whole of. the don't know how to hold autonomous on even fifteen seconds. a little older all of us. and so jennifer have said. two thousand and one in my grandma and by dan the show
had some son joe who are multiple better. than me any. more moderate on them kind of you know had a man who knew quite a sensitive the economic outlook at hickam high on model city center which instead of almost us arsenal click on the comic when the content of the advice you know my dad is not going to basically serve more than sixty five or sixty five years more than a life sentence in prison like the minute your mind can't accept that on senses in day my father got up walked to the podium and said the following. nothing in my life was as satisfactory as knowing that i could sign a check. it was the only evidence you have used against me but that was the most enjoyable part of my life knowing that i could sign a check to assist the thousands of palestinian families who got displaced after
their homes were demolished nothing was more satisfactory to me than providing scholarships to hundreds of palestinian students who had high average grades despite their circumstance i said to the judge. that a man named al mari how can that be that someone who pleads guilty and admits to being a sleeper agent for al qaeda is going to get ten years and the government wants whatever they wanted which was enormous amount for shukri abu bakar who committed no violent crimes who was convicted of providing charity to palestinian children perhaps as far as the government was concerned the wrong children and the judge's response as i recall was something to the effect of well mr all mary just did one thing and your client has been a lifelong supporter of hamas. and i was just stunned i've been
a lawyer for an american criminal lawyer for almost thirty years and it was the most unjust decision i've ever seen it's like somebody just came up to you and is hit you in the stomach as hard as they could it took all the air out you felt empty you felt. the sense of injustice had just occurred. we appealed mr washington connection to the court of appeals in new orleans we had risen number of issues we challenge the anonymous witness for example we challenge the admission of the gruesome photographs we challenge a good bit of the government's evidence and most of it the court of appeals said was ok. but it found four errors goes for errors for the admission
of mr mcbrien testimony the admission of mr simon's testimony the admission of mr schorr bhajis testimony and the admission of those documents that the israeli soldiers had found in the wreckage of the palestinian authority headquarters in ramallah that the court of appeals decision was well yes all four of those pieces of evidence which didn't come in in the first trial which obviously made a big difference because in the second trial everyone was convicted it was all harmless. and that's an outrageous decision and i believe a political decision that we were just not going to win. bob dylan. almost says in one cannot submit you know and one had to say in the.
second or woman session. comes out on an issue that a former. president of the of the member opposite me doesn't want to meet. someone and i thought in my need for cut. but the cut that had been. in it was the shot of my father is a family man he loved to gather everyone for breakfast and for lunch and for dinner so every weekend he made sure to get gather the family and beautiful palestinian brunch now after he left we all these separate. separate times in our own schedule rarely do we all sit together in this is where he brought us together . follow me on
the almost see. that he was with them. in know. that. well boy i'm one of the homes that almost but. not the life of the world as well if. he works in the kitchen in the prison so he gets some money instead of using it for commissary which is stuff that you can buy in prison for example tennis shoes he's been wearing the same ones for three years he would send me the checks every month because he knew i needed it and by doing that he's helping my mom the first you know checker guy got some aside money to send him a check every month and i said now it's my turn you know vava it's my turn i want to give back to you and he said you don't have to do it out of all like your
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central council focusing on the american recognition of jerusalem as israel's capital the council's declared that the u.s. has lost its ability to mediate between israel and the palestinians russia's foreign minister is warning that a u.s. coalition plan to build a syria border security force could break up the country the plan is also being criticized by turkey and the bashar assad government the u.s. says the thirty thousand strong force will help stabilize syria. foreign ministers from japan south korea and the united states are on senior officials from twenty nations heading to canada to discuss how to strengthen sanctions on north korea u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson will co-host the talks in vancouver later on choose day but north korea's main trading partner china will be at the conference donald trump and gene ping they have held a phone conversation focusing on the peninsular chinese state media says she's
message was that the easing of tensions must continue pope francis has arrived in chile for his first non stop our first stop on a visit to south america now the potters landed in the capital but there have been tense scenes ahead of his visit with five churches vandalized in recent days protests are expected against the alleged cover up of sexual abuse of the catholic church security for the papal visit has been ramped up as a result. greek protesters have fought with police outside parliament as politicians voted to approve more austerity measures twenty thousand people marched to government rallies in the capital and sprayed police with red paint they responded with pepper spray despite the protest feel story to reform as it passed think through cuts in family benefits and tougher conditions for new strikes if fifty thousand people have fled to evacuations that is in the philippines after a volcano because the uptake of the island of luzon lover has been pouring from
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a web site rodman says in the hague i'm in the u.k. pages i mean there's a little videos of connected in saskatoon i can call the name of the model to nasty can the methadone help them again locally fundraising dinners. but then as i look at the mean how much a lot i make of how the highest that i learned this was. sophia i just thought that i think to. connecticut i should go into hi fi and in this business and we're not going to give up and this is just a setback. so i talk about the case to everyone i talk about the case when i go out into the streets and i go to restaurants and you know sometimes i'll talk to just people i meet at different events every single person who has heard this story has been outraged i have spoken to every major ivy league school in the country at harvard at yale that brown university at columbia university and as i had the
opportunity to speak and also what you can i'm doing in the group for jumma students for justice in palestine i'm in that event as a lead in the usia here. to love them all or by the whole also had. who were tons of soft on you hopeful selamat if. i was i was shocked about what i heard i never heard about it really quite before i heard little bits about it but i didn't really know the full the full scope and then and i began to inquire some more and to get more information and i came back to texas after that and i met to the families and over the last two three years i've been gathering information all the information that i could find about about this case. i mean from the publisher. of the sun.
will really give them to be through the i was able to meet of this issue priest family several times before the family several times and i have a son in law she's family several times here in dallas. and just recently about a month ago i was able to visit ukraine prison i was pleasantly surprised and impressed by his ability to maintain this wonderful spirit to maintain his optimism we talk about the kids we talk about the case we talked about my family his family the history of the palestine politics and we talk about everything you know like friends do. people. i've got all the material now it's a question of sitting down and and writing this is a political case i think these five men are political prisoners i think their position right now is very similar to the position of palestinian prisoners in
israeli jails. you could see that they were doing a very good job of being very successful and this contradicts the zionist there is this that there is no palestinian problem that there is no palestinian people that the refugees and the poverty and all of these issues are not true that israel has nothing to do with it they're all just terrorists it's all a lie they all want to attack israel and so on so if you have an organization that's decent that's honorable that is doing good work people are going to start thinking maybe they have a point maybe design a story is not perfect and that's why they had to bring them down it was a threat because it challenges the zionist narrative. and that is the most dangerous thing to do for israel that is the most dangerous thing to do for zionism and that is the thing that these really lobby fights the most when you.
want to. attack shopping. perspective. we appealed the case after the second trial and what's called the fifth circuit or one of the the higher courts and they affirmed the conviction they said we agree that the jury got it right so they didn't change the verdict we appealed it to the u.s. supreme court the united states supreme court decided they didn't want to listen
the only thing left isn't is a law another lawsuit that says we didn't get a fair trial it's called a petition and what that means is you go back all the way to the beginning back to judge so lease and argue that this was not a fair trial argue that the lawyers were ineffective which we all agreed that we were in one way or another that we we filed affidavits with the court saying things that we didn't do that we should have done. what i'm working on what i filed and what i'm pursuing it's it's called the twenty to fifty five motion which is under the for. adderall law where after their convictions and their appeals have been denied it's a way to raise fundamental constitutional errors to raise new evidence that that had not been considered before and to to ask the court to reconsider
a lot of the liturgy of their convictions. and because this whole case the whole issue in this case was whether or not hamas controlled the cicotte so at the trial there was no witness rezin by either the defense or the prosecution who was a person who actually worked with the cot committee if they had a retry. it would be on the same accusations but the trial would be completely different because at a retrial the jury would have first hand testimony from people that would testify that these the ca committees are not and were not controlled by hamas right now the lawyers have been able to secure thirty four affidavits from different leader i mean different board members of the csicop committees who swear that these o'clock
committees gave aid based on need not on creed or politics that they were not under influence of anybody that this twenty to thirty five petition is the last legal opportunity that these men have to challenge their convictions in court if this petition is not successful then they have no further legal options. why is it that comes here for us in the sums. and the c.m. of us out in the salamanca in the let's see if they had that offer for us to your confidence so. you will have the most of our luck in the whole club. be a man to. believe you were there when we thought at times
that there might be a way to do some kind of prisoner trade we've not been able to really get anywhere with that of course we could ask the president for a pardon it seems to me that the only. possible outcome for these people is a pardon and i don't know politically whether a pardon would be in the works by american officials i would hope that someone a justice department official whether it's eric holder or whomever. it was see that there was an injustice done in this case recommend to the president the united states whoever he or she may be and say these men should be part. of that right i'm important if you have an official in and that's it i think you know their best shot would be in a court rather than in the realm of politics because. we're still in a you know a kind of anti terror while the future of this case will end when the legal options
are over as far as whether these men get in or out of prison ill either end in them serving their time or dying in prison or. there may we may be successful with this . b.s. or the legal battle that we're still fighting on now they can't i'm not going to be convinced that this man won't die chris and that my father was dying chris and that's why it's i can't but i think the way this can be resolved. has to be through public pressure so whether people are living here in this country the united states whether they're in the middle east or they're in europe people have to stand up people have to protest people have to speak up against this this has to be something everybody talks about argues about does it right is it wrong to bring it to a point where politicians have to listen bring it to a point where there is public pressure to at least reopen the trial if not to you know throughout the trial altogether exonerate them.
years old now i am one of the pad daughters of the holy land five my father and four other gay men are pledged to jail for nothing my father got sixty five years he did not hurt anyone or anything if anything he helps people now the favor i really want from you is to be the age of five you are the only one who can do this and i hope she will. let you know i have the same birthday a dr martin luther king jr gave you that's why we think the fair. come on mr president we need you can you solve this case i hope you think about this and please as soon as you can thank you sincerely and i'm eric and girl who wants her doctor.
the controversial leader of his let me ask you had his cock he use one most wanted terrorist in the history of israel come to terms on his alleged extra judicial killings by israeli challenge us an aside the sense of being caught up in the must use the outcome is only death if someone tried to get funds he's got to immediately suman intention was shut down if you don't kill him in damascus at this time on al jazeera world. hello again let's take a look at the weather across the levant and western parts of asia pretty quiet at the moment temperatures not all are great for back you there in us by channel four degrees look at minus two is a high couple are coming in double figures for those who are sixteen in baghdad quite conditions around the eastern side of military a bit of a breeze coming in there for beirut temperatures of sixteen degrees sir said ellen
to arabian peninsula notified some folks here in qatar the last twenty four hours but the wind is going to be picking up during tuesday's that should clear it away twenty four is the maximum bit on the cool side for reality twenty one but we're still looking for a decent weather conditions in mecca thirty one the expected high now as we head across into southern portions of africa we've got this tropical psych loan book eater which is heading towards out of the militias and re-union could bring vast amounts of rain sequent of a category three hurricane so it's going to do some damaging winds as well also across the region we've got some heavy showers in the eastern side of madagascar some pretty heavy rain across parts of mozambique northwards towards miami tuns in the kenya got some heavy showers also affecting northern parts of zambia become southwards across much of namibia through boss wanna and down into much of south africa should be dry and fine it should be a nice day in durban and respecting the high of twenty nine.
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