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it's great. you're with the news great in mind on air in streaming online through you tube facebook by amanda down to zero dot com and with all the criticism over how she's handled the ranger crisis me and sang suchi could ill afford to lose another ally but it seems that is what's happened this time it's the former u.s. governor from new mexico bill richardson richardson was part of an international advisory panel on the range of crisis but no more than he had some pretty scathing criticism for the panel and she herself will start with this report from me on a hand. he's one of america's most experienced diplomats a former u.s. politician and reportedly a friend ivanka suchi but bill richardson sudden departure from an advisory panel on the range of crisis shows just how much that relationship may have soured i
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don't want to be part of a whitewash. and i felt as best that i resign immediately richardson said he didn't want to be a part of what he described as a cheerleading operation for suchi aimed at validating hiromi range of policies rather than honesty investigation the actions of me and miles military richardson was an international heavyweight on the team member panel chosen he says by suchi herself the u.n. estimates more than six hundred eighty thousand range of muslims fled a military crackdown from late august last year survivor spoke of atrocities including mess murder rape entire villages raised me and my maintains it was responding to attacks from mom groups suchi once celebrated as a champion of human rights was heavily criticized over the crisis richardson is now adding his voice to that criticism accusing her of flecking moral leadership she
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believes there concerted international effort against me amar and i believe she is wrong blames all the problems that we have mars having on the international media and on human rights groups. on other governments richardson city was also alarmed by her response when he raised the issue of two reuters journalists wristed in yangon in december that been investigating the written job crisis i was very unhappy and distressed by downtown for the reaction to my point that this issue of reuters journalists being treated fairly and rapidly . that brought almost an explosion on her part a former top diplomat richardson is nonfinite goshi outing with some of the world's most formidable regimes including saddam hussein and the government of north korea
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but this time he's chosen to walk away a decidedly undiplomatic departure medium mohan to syria that's only one half of the story at the moment of course we've heard plenty of accusations leveled at me in miles military over the range of prices not designs on sochi most notably the u.n. which called it textbook ethnic cleansing but now downright has entered the lexicon as well rights groups say the attacks occurred during a recent crackdown in rakhine state and which has many as seven thousand people i thought have been killed stratford reports now from the cook upon refugee camp in bangladesh. these sisters fifteen and seventeen years old samia army soldiers tied them to trees and gang raped them the eldest says a sister lost consciousness was the second man began to brutalize are headed to. the army surrounded our house she says my sister and i were in the bathroom the soldiers burst in and drank this outside seven men raped me she says
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passers by found them unconscious and still tied to the trees. it was difficult to walk she says but they helped us it took us fifteen days to walk to the bangladesh border. rights groups say that the myanmar army used gang rape as part of its ethnic cleansing campaign that killed thousands of people and destroyed their homes in rakhine state. they also say that myanmar's case highlights massive floors in the international criminal justice system and there are questions being asked as to whether the interests of powerful countries like china could jeopardize myanmar ever fully being called to account gathering evidence in myanmar is almost impossible at the moment the myanmar government has banned the un's top human rights investigator from entering the country me and my has made
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a very big mistake in banning myself and also a fact finding mission and other investigative teams to going in because this is exactly what the world needs to to see and hear from is the first hand reports from persons like myself and others rights groups say the un security council should refer to the international criminal court in the hague but the i.c.c. only has jurisdiction over crimes committed by states that have signed its founding treaty the rome statute and is not a signatory getting myanmar an i.c.c. referral in the un security council would likely fail because of china's power of veto china's interests in myanmar a growing these include oil pipelines across rakhine and the construction of a deep water port the girls now live with the woman that found them in the camp
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four months ago they say they heard gunshots inside their house as they were dragged the way they say their mother father and three siblings were inside is the soldiers' lot the front door behind them and set their home on fire chance transferred al-jazeera to the refugee camp and with their. in the footsteps of a ranger refugee it's a virtual reality offered from al jazeera dot com it is i would suggest one of the few ways you can actually get something of a feel for what it's like for the rangers they flee persecution in me and as you can see the three sixty camera is in play there with odio and video works on desktops laptops tablets smartphones with or without a mask i really do recommend it if you had to the interactive section of al jazeera dot com search for footsteps of iraq and as if i will tweet all the links to this and all of our explore suggestions just after the show let's move to syria now so many angles to cover there after almost seven years of war but we're looking at the
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big two diplomacy and fighting first of all u.n. special envoy stephanie mystery he is having another go at getting the syrian government and opposition groups to talk to each other it's in vienna at this time but let us not forget the previous eight rounds of talks have gone nowhere and also russia has got its parallel diplomatic effort in sochi at the end of this month so that the diplomacy there is another complication though the new military front opened up by turkey in northern syria six days now we've seen this the turks attacking why p.g. kurdish forces in the african region turkey regards them as terrorists wants to push them back to create a buffer zone along the border with syria all right so we'll start with the talks vienna hoda abdel-hamid covering these for us today what are anything to report from the talks today. well no actually the short answer will be not much what we do know that there was a meeting that lasted about two and a half hours between u.n.
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and voice the fandom is through and the government delegation now as we speak the government delegation is leaving the building and the opposition delegation is coming to the u.n. building where it will hold its own round of talks with the mystery is anyone expecting any sort of positive outcome any breakthrough i think everyone would agree that the answer to that is no however the opposition did say that this this round of talks were critical and decisive in the sense according to the opposition if you really shed the light on who is serious and who is not serious about these talks and also how much influence that russia really has on the syrian regime so fundamental to resit exactly the same thing when he landed here in vienna last night he said these were critical round but from what we understand anyway certainly the messages coming out from the government delegation is that they were
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not coming up with they were coming with nothing on their agenda so no talks about constitution no talks about election but simply they were coming here to listen to hear from the fundaments to reading. the government being upset with the report to find the mystery i had put forward to the u.n. security council at the end of last year the government the syrian government thinking that that report was actually biased against it so that that's the aim of their visit here the opposition says we are here we're going to listen we're going to see what what is going to happen we're going to listen to stiffen the mystery and then at the end of these talks we will decide whether we will go in the coming days to sochi where they will be another syria a meeting disarm. hold up on by russia so it's interesting the way it's progress because when i think about the previous eight talks or some of the previous i told her it was about the financing or it was about safe zones or it was about trying to
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get aid through and now it's just from what you described two sides sitting there and listening to the other right you first. yes absolutely it's exactly like that and actually if you want to compare these talks to the eighth round which were in early december well at least during those talks in geneva today legations were five metre apart in separate rooms and the founder mr i was shuttling between the two sides even though the regime. delegation said it was at the end of it said it was unaware wasn't very happy about that well this time they're not even in the building at the same time and that's how difficult it is at the moment so you know people do say that the situation on the ground makes these talks more complicated i'm not really sure if it's if it can make it any more complicated than it is already it is a dead log that the law has been going on for years the opposition will tell you
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about three years now there's been no advancement whatsoever and the reality on the ground is that you have six million internally displaced you have millions of refugees around the world between those and tricky jordan or in europe you have about eight hundred thousand people still besieged in various areas of syria you have ongoing fighting going on you have you many tarion disasters everywhere and no one is addressing that situation i think syrian people at the end of the day where there's whichever side they're on would like to know or would like to hear from the delegations coming to either geneva vienna or anyone else when will the suffering come to an end and that is someone no one is able to answer. that the syria talks in vienna thank you huldah inside syria turkish forces oppressing on with their offensive to take over for him this is a kurdish enclave in the north of the country activists believe turkey has mobilized about ten thousand allied syrian rebels to help them as we said the
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target here is the kurdish people's protection units known as the wife he turkey regards from the terrorists these pictures. to show you the counter-offensive from the y. p.g. i just believe dozens of scientists have been killed thousands took his campaign six days ago the exact numbers there as i'm sure you can appreciate almost impossible to know we're going to check in with stephanie decker who's covering this event for us stephanie any clarity at all well after six days of fighting now well it seems have been relatively quiet today in terms of if you look at it as what we've seen over the last six days as you mentioned i could only speculate as to reason why certainly the ground offensive we understand was very very quiet there was some shelling that's been going on for days intensely today less so. the weather has been very bad kemal the visibility has been low it's been raining but
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again as i said it would only be speculation the reality is it is still an ongoing campaign from the air artillery and ground forces now pretty much on forefront surrounding the province of africa you know i think it's interesting listening to her talk there absolutely you know we've seen these talks come and go but it's really you know all these international players who have their interests in stakes inside syria who call the shots as to how the war starts how it stops and how it progresses so at the moment turkey giving a very firm message that it is going to continue with this until it's achieved all of it objective which surely creates more tension with some of turkey's allies stephanie. absolutely and i think it's quite interesting late last night president spoke to the u.s. president donald trump of the white house issued a statement soon after that turkish forces issued their own statement saying that the what the white house said wasn't quite accurate president hadn't discussed
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concerns and it also came down to members of course this is the city further east that the y.p. g.'s still controls but you have u.s. forces there and further east now everyone wants to wipe e.g. to pull east of the euphrates midges the city it's complicated kemal still to those are to the west and to the east of the phrase to the west of that but the you are the americans are there so where is trump said he didn't want any conflict between turkish or u.s. troops edge on according to these sources now according to the foreign minister as well said well then pull out your troops this is looking ahead but this is the rhetoric come all coming out of turkey about that they will push all the way along their border all the way to iraq to push the white p.g. away from their border which is of course the u.s. is best ally so you have to nato members very much at all over their syria policy they've been talking behind the scenes but it's not making any difference on the ground stephanie you and the team of based in antakya can you put us in the picture
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as to how far that is from this region and how you've gone about trying to get closer to what's happening. but we've been here since just before the offensive started so we've covered the western side so to speak the border with after being for the last six days the first day intense airstrikes we hear a lot of artillery going on yesterday as well you see tanks military along the border they really don't want any media around so it really has become you know a sort of difficult game for us to try and get close to see what is going on you can hear it today we've just come back from kilis which is on the sort of more northern border that turkey has close to the eastern front there was some artillery outgoing that we saw and heard but again relatively quiet. but it's hard to get access kemal and as you mentioned earlier in terms of numbers you know we rely on sources inside syria from fifteen people you know who have family inside africa in
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the y.p. g. gives numbers the turks give numbers the turks say they've killed over three hundred y p g fighters they've lost three soldiers those numbers are very difficult to verify you have videos and social media that show you either civilians huddling in caves now we know that's a case from sources we've spoken to but these videos are very difficult to verify so you know for us to enjoy jobs correctly we also need to be certain as to facts that we're giving and it's very difficult to do that when it is a bit of a propaganda war which syria's always been kemal and it continues to be so always enlightening talking to you stephanie stephanie because and i'm talking. what is russia's end game an offer in two of our online producers. virtual meets have been picked that particular topic it's a good little features to help you understand how one of the biggest players in syria fits into this particular conflict that's in the features section about zero dot com that is under the more menu if you search for russia a freeman. and you can get in touch with us as well hey can you conduct details on
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screen hashtags i don't use grid i have heard from a couple of people about me in mar actually i thought this was initially about syria but it is about me in my skin why the united nations isn't doing something and that the main mommy should be punished as per the strict international criminal laws there are a lot of players involved in me and maher will try to put pressure there and that is certainly what's happened with bill richardson he's decided he can't be a part of that process anymore he feels it is not doing what it's supposed to the hashtag i didn't used to do so the other detail the twitter facebook and whatsapp all up and running we're going to move on to actually the world economic forum u.s. president donald trump has arrived in switzerland for that forum we've been expecting him to dance right into selling his america first agenda but he's actually just dropped some big a comment will big comments on another big subject his recognition of recognition of jerusalem as israel's capital and he added that if palestinians want to get
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their full usa payments back they must return to peace talks with the israelis when they just respected us a week ago by not allowing our great vice president to see them and we give them hundreds of millions of dollars in aid or tremendous numbers numbers that nobody understands that money is on the table that money is not going to them unless they ship down and negotiate the. here we go now to dallas diplomatic editor james bays is covering events for us there james i guess you can never quite predict what's going to come out of donald trump's mouth it's interesting he's gone straight into israel palestine. well he was going into a meeting with the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu so he clearly was asked about the peace process remember this is a president who said he could get the peace deal of the century i have to say it's
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not working out like that and in recent weeks he seems to alien eighty to one side so you think he might be offering olive branches to that side no that's not what president trump is doing he's starting a war of words with the palestinians he's talking about that trip to jerusalem by vice president mike pence and he's saying that the palestinians disrespected the vice president by not meeting and of course the reason they did that is they are so infuriated by the u.s. administration's decision to recognize jerusalem as israel's capital he spoke about that as well and said in previous efforts of peace you could never get past jerusalem suggesting jerusalem had been one of the key stumbling blocks which it is in previous peace efforts but of course what they've done by recognizing it as the capital is not remove that stumbling block as he says but actually give that point
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in the negotiations one of the most important key areas of the negotiations to the israelis because the palestinians want their capital to be in jerusalem too so if he was trying to try and get the peace process moving again i don't think his comments are going to help in any way james his main address to the forum tomorrow friday. i mean i've been to dallas before and it is very much a global village people from everywhere globalization how do we all work together how do you think quote unquote america first will go down there. well i think that's the big question you've been to davos and you know come on how it works here and the sorts of conversations that the global elite have about global priorities global trade global values america first doesn't really fit into that so let's see what's going to happen i think it's fair to say that the normal
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of job loss ended a few hours ago when president trump arrived here he is the disrupter in chief and gatherings like this we're also told though by the white house that america is open for business he wants to be i think the salesman in chief he says he wants to encourage investment in the u.s. i think even that message will rankle some here because of course divorce is not supposed to be a global trade fair interesting stuff james bays that the world economic forum in davos thank you james it is the perennial question just what is have haas and how he does that mass a lot of people still argue it doesn't matter given its elite nature will david challenge them out of their competence and i suppose simple guide to the annual meeting of the world economic forum viewpoints from across the spectrum what is it what happens there what's important have a look for it why it does matter go back seven years and something pretty remarkable almost unthinkable really was beginning on this very day january twenty
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fifth it was the first day of demonstrations in egypt that eighteen days later brought down president hosni mubarak these incredible pictures weren't they protesters dreaming of democracy but seven years on president i believe they will seize the slowly eliminating the competition. as he prepares for an election in march the last may know position candidate as the drums in the race and on choosing a former army chief of staff was arrested days after announcing his candidacy reveal are reacting to this when i've got an idea in my head but what if you manage to find a lot of conversations so many different angles come all but social media actually played the one of the biggest roles and what happened seven years ago in egypt and now as i said we continue to see a lot of conversations about the upcoming elections critics of c.c. and rights groups have had plenty to say joseph posted this image online saying sisi is running against himself echoing a very popular hash tag we're seeing at the moment and ken roth from human rights
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watch says when you're an autocratic like sisi the best election is when you have pressured all of your major opponents not to run and the women's rights activists is mona and she said this is a reminder of the suffocating and possibility of politics in egypt the military backed regime determines who can or who can't challenge it and as i said when people in egypt started rising up against hosni mubarak and twenty eleven social media fan those flames and suddenly dissenting voices were heard and listened to now this video is being shared a lot it's of the first massive protests that took place in ramsey's square in cairo people are tweeting this down only to reflect on the revolution but also in protest against cc's rule now indeed social media uses are drawing strong parallels between what happened in twenty eleven and events that we're seeing today are
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khalifa says that the world listened in or to our chants and this was the chants the people want the fall of the regime those who stood up once will stand up again and his sham hellyeah says that each year i wonder if there is something new to say a day which represented a break in the system. the destruction to the decrepit state of egyptian face now we did look for post of support online for president sisi and we found a couple these are in arabic so i'll translate for you it says a fatwa says that sisi is not only the pride for egypt but he has managed to lift the country from despair and mon dieu says that i support another term for president sisi so he can complete economic reform and projects now i found this quite interesting. a statement from the u.s. senator john mccain he is a chance all of the senate armed services committee he is calling for fair elections in egypt are read some of the saipan for he says it is critical that the
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gyptian government embrace the spirit of the general twenty fifth revolution i strongly urge president sisi and his government to fulfill their commitment to political reform and respect for human rights now egypt's foreign ministry did respond to mccain's message on facebook by saying the general twenty fifth revolution belong sony to the egyptian people and we reject the statement for its fallacies and attempt to undermine the egyptians celebrations of the revolution but just but important note here was that there was no mention of the elections so if you are an egypt we do want to get your thoughts send us your stories about your experiences from the jan twenty fifth revolution or your thoughts about the elections right now is the hash tag news great or message me directly and rein in the hobbit. and with us now here in studio this is the professor of history at georgetown university and. here's my theory
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a revolution can be described as something that goes full circle and that's exactly what's happened here i mean was the whole. seven years later with the whole thing in vain if we're now looking at an election with possibly only one candidate well i think certainly for looking at the media it demands which is of course a change of the not only the structure of the government but also in terms of the personalities of the people that are involved and we see that the demands weren't met from the january twenty fifth uprising but i think in terms of creating an opening by which people could finally begin to express themselves politically i do think that that opening is something that that this regime is attempting to close and has failed to do so up to this point failed to do so. yeah i mean i think that we've seen of course the wave of oppression but the fact is that all of the steps and all of the measures that the c.c. regime has been undertaken for the last couple of years and especially even when we look at its reaction to just even the possibility that there might be some kind of competition and upcoming election i think points to the fact that it's still very much attempting to close those particular openings for people to begin to express
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themselves to what i've said to a guest previously when we were discussing this is how this whole situation of the candidates being pushed aside it seems also obvious that we can all see what's happening in front of us and know when you know the obviously the egyptian government's not willing to say it but it's it's just there and no one's doing anything and we could as i say get to the situation with the she's running against himself right and i think it's not an election exactly i mean this is this is a mark of a very weak candidate and a very weak regime because normally strong authoritarian regimes don't actually have to behave this aggressively in terms of the state of oppression that's taken place in egypt and the kinds of things that we've seen both in terms of the intimidation of candidates but even the more widespread repression in terms of the sixty thousand political prisoners that still languish in egyptian cells today the hundreds that have been killed over the years going back to january twenty fifth and the days after that but even of course when the coup took place in two thousand and thirteen that brought sisi to power and attempted to end any possibility for
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a democratic transition and so i think that these moments have to be kind of examined as as a whole in a way that is attempting to bring back an authoritarian regime and a kind of stability that existed in the previous era under hosni mubarak but has not been possible for sisi do you think people will try to get out on the streets again or not to her square itself has been closed off basically to try and avoid something happening i wonder if people will most you know run the gauntlet well i don't think that we've seen the same degree of mobilization and i think seven years later now we want to expect that there's going to be an attempt at a kind of popular protest movement given the kinds of constraints on people's movements and mobilization and that. sense i think people have had to kind of adapt the way in which they critique this government because of course it's showing that it can be quite ruthless in the way that it responds and so now i think it's about of opening spaces for people to be able to have these kinds of conversations in perhaps just the very idea that we would even be considering an election that has multiple candidates is perhaps in itself some kind of again let's flip the
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narrative on its head here because you know we did reveal are talking about people saying they do support presidencies and they want him to stay to continue his economic reform and you can't doubt that egypt has been aside from say what's been happening in the sinai it's been settled there is an argument there that says he's actually doing ok here and he won with ninety seven percent last time so maybe he has got some support out there i'm just throwing out the idea sure i mean i think initially when when he rose to power as part of the military coup that brought him into power in two thousand and thirteen i think there certainly was a kind of hyper nationalism that set in and this was partly because of the frustrations with the transition and of course people who were not necessarily keen on having any kind of change because they lost a particular benefits that they enjoyed under a very deeply entrenched dictatorship that offered certain privileges and had a kind of wide network of patronage within certain segments of egyptian society and i think you still see that support very much there for people who prefer stability and authoritarianism to the idea of some kind of
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a kind of democratic transition that could be unstable but at the same time i do think that on the things that he's actually promised economic prosperity and of course security that he has failed on on both of those counts because as we've.


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