tv Inside Story 2018 Ep 71 Al Jazeera March 12, 2018 8:32pm-9:01pm +03
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about twenty five minutes time that's off the inside story which starts now. the blockade of cut ties nine months old but the country is behind it sound eurabia united out of evidence behind and egypt have been conspiring against oh how for more than twenty years the un to cut off water it wanted would seem to change in one thousand nine hundred sixty one at the time to a coup and it wants it now why this is inside school.
hello and welcome to the program. when the blockade against began in june last year the question on everyone's lips was why and you al-jazeera investigation suggest the doesn't lie in events of nine months ago but those a war than two decades ago the report reveals new evidence of a town by saudi arabia the united arab emirates idjit and behind to overthrow the qatari government in one thousand nine hundred six it includes interviews with coup leaders how conspired to remove the emir of qatar of the time so how much of that he is the father of the current emea the investigation implicates leaders from all four located in countries it says the committee formed to organize the nine hundred ninety six coup was led by. than chief of staff of the u.a.e.
on force as the current crown prince of all lobby so how much of an ace that was then crown prince of bahrain he's now the country's king the late princess. the minister of defense who went on to be crowned prince and all muscly man the egyptian intelligence chief and former vice president of egypt also now deceased. let's now go to our guests joining me here in the studio abilities of her qatari academy and researcher a london andrea scribd assistant professor of the defense that is department at king's college london and from milan via skype claude salhani opinion editor of the whitley newspaper while come to the program mr abdul aziz like to ask you this question i mean the investigation on al-jazeera shows that this is a replay of an old scenario yes i mean the the two episodes
clearly shores it's not about terrorism it because i mean it's only till elite in one thousand in the ninety's and early two thousand when we started to hear about the symptomatology it's not about zero because it is either was established november one thousand nine hundred ninety six it's not about supporting the muslim brotherhood old islamic the because there was no such support at that time that sickly of lee about the sovereignty of this country it's a clearly a bar the resources and wealth of this country it's a clearly about the geopolitics map of the region it's a clearly about i mean distracting the people of these countries to achieve
an internal agenda. i mean we're talking about in one thousand nine to six and in june last year the same key players who have been the driving force behind a political crisis again quite interesting. well you've forgot to mention two thousand and fourteen as well and we probably should even go back to the one nine hundred eighty s. what we see here is the same kind of people conspiring and coming together and having a problem with the way cut ties going and it's really not just in general i think it was a problem to start with with haven't been to leave the father near and now his son and the policies that would reform not only qatar but in many ways you know with the introduction of urgency or later on would also reform the wind a golf and the middle east you know had a massive impact on the arab world and i think they were both i mean should hamas and also share hammer were very much reformists in many different ways they are
approaching and propagating liberal values you know poor and civil liberties and pluralist governance it was about liberal education in many ways it was kind of disrupting the flow of where the gulf was going and it was undermining they had germany of saudi arabia and the leadership of saudi arabia in this part of the world so i think for the saudis it was definitely about silencing a country that could become increasingly in taken istic in terms of in terms of its ideology and foreign and security policy for the emirates it was more about silencing a competitor because you know it's all another small state in the region and the bahrain is the same i mean it was it was as much about interests i think as it was also about ideology it's just a heart of the past sometimes helps us shedding more light on to the present when you look of the events one nine hundred ninety s. and the attempted coup for key players saudi arabia the united arab emirates by the
way and egypt ninety two thousand and seventeen same thing same key players what is the thread that binds together the two events that took place doing to different times. well i think it's a continuation of the beginning and i think your guest who knows just sounded for me it didn't end on the head i think it was it was a question of qatar really new ideas to the region that of the saudis and their conservatism did not appreciate the bahrain with along with saudi arabia and the emirates for a reason and then there's as your guest said commercial reasons. trying to. get in on the action on some of the natural gas that that qatar has i think you're also played a big role in that because i need convincing that they want to see i just. wanted
to see him down because of the novelty of the idea of the need. channel i could say and even want to a certain extent that they don't like that and there's monks thirteen points that are still on the agenda on the list of demands that qatar should do is figure out just you know and i think for a start and i'm concerned i've written about this in the passengers iraq has brought tremendous change in the way the media operates in the region and it's not everybody's pleasure with a head of of the. of the program there was. one of the key players in the ninety ninety six attempted coup who was a former senior intelligence officer in qatar said that he met with the bahraini. crown prince who is now the king had been. and he encouraged him and his finest him to carry out acts of sabotage inside qatar was here the key
player or the driving force behind the ninety ninety six attempts to i have the believe that all the previous events including this event of this crisis. but rain is only the interface of the whole a crisis i don't think we're headed in as a key player in the whole crisis two thousand and fourteen or one thousand nine hundred ninety six or even the two thousand and seventeen they don't have the depth they don't have the started to position they don't have the resources they don't have the really leverage to i mean a place such. i think you are a and so do we although they have different agendas but but they share i mean a common interest here then it comes the egypt if this is. of an old scenario but then the question. one should ask is basically the key
players in one in one thousand and ninety six most of them are no longer here so why should this be replicated a year ago what has what has what has changed and what hasn't. actually former saudi and emirate he point of view things have actually worsened after the arab spring and i mean that brings us back to two thousand and fourteen i do think that while qatar was a nuisance in the ninety's and you know had a lot of wealth by you know the twenty years on in and to two thousand and fourteen qatar was ridiculously wealthy nobody had to support such a hyper development it was a country that was very much punching above its weight also with the with al-jazeera it was a country that had influence soft power influence across the world but particular also across the arab world it was able to influence outcomes of conflicts in the arab spring promoting the people that were protesting against these repressive regimes which was something that in the specially i think here the key players the
u.a.e. and one of bin zaid who himself is paranoid in the u.a.e. are paranoid country that is afraid of any form of dissidents and you know you have here the neighbor counter is directly engaging with dissidents who are trying to topple the regimes so by two thousand and fourteen the problems that they might have had in the one nine hundred ninety s. where way exacerbated because qatar was actually more influential than they hadn't dissipated and it was undermining the very security narrative that the saudis and the especially immoralities were trying to propagate the iraqis and the saudis want a narrative of author of terror instability in the region and qatar is holding against it they're saying we it's not about all three ten stability it is about actually empowering the people and creating more polluter alist regimes not necessarily democratic but those who are more catering to the needs of people and that is very much something that mohammed bin zaid the crown prince of the emirates is very much afraid of claude's i mean we've seen spats between neighbors in different parts of the world some of these would be contains ultimately when
maturity prevails do you think that this is something that could potentially be contained or is just my drug of. well i think it has to be contained and then we as a country in the region have no choice but to get along on the stoop to. destructive if they continue on the track they are in for for qatar and for for the other countries. the actress at one point come to realization that they need need to negotiate need to sit down and work it out how when and how they will do this remains to be seen and i think one of the one of the reasons that has brought them to separate ways and that is the syrian civil war which the disagreed upon in many ways and from beginning they really seem to agree with those as the war progressed they lead the divided on how to how to approach the conflict and who to support and not to support so i think one of the first we have to solve those who are in syria
and then the address soon there are issues in the region it's not going to be easy as we've mentioned the blockade on qatar is still ongoing it began last journey when saudi arabia the united arab emirates. imposed. the embargo on closing their borders they accused us of supporting terrorism which though has in eyes kuwait has been trying to mediate the crisis with a little success it with and began their renewed push for talks with the support of the european union and u.s. president donald trump is shadel to meet leaders from the u.a.e. saudi arabia and qatar over the next two months he hopes to help organize a summit to resolve the diplomatic crisis. the many people believe that there's absolutely no indication to suggest that today or tomorrow this crisis would be resolved because of the rising rhetoric an
escalation that we've seen over the last few exactly actually form the escalation of the level of skill a shin and with the all the acts they have done it's basically an act of war against qatar socially culturally financially politically i mean media what a form every very for and the way they they managed and they are behaving it does not sure that they are willing to really ended very soon unless there is an external force and external push for these countries to come to the table and put all their screens the or the all their concerns on the table and they transparently discussing negotiating and really settling down all these concerns this will not end if it's lift with their own internal will i think this will drag for for
a long long time so i mean the everyone now believes that the americans will ultimately have to step in try to solve this do the americans still have leverage. that is that is the big question i mean the countries are betting on two things they're betting on the mediation of the kuwaiti emir was done a great job but unfortunate has been disrespected very much by the saudis and the iraqis who have not taken his voice they haven't except as it is an imitation to the g.c.c. summit last year and then the other bad is basically donald trump who seem to have suggested to the countries that he will step up during that strategic dialogue between the united states and qatar that he will step up and bring all the g.c.c. countries together and he will now individually meet with mama been so man the crown prince of saudi arabia after that with mama bin zaid of the u.a.e. and then lastly in may i believe that the country emir well to come to washington and they will try to discuss any potential ways out i do think though that you know
we're not in the one nine hundred eighty s. or not even the one nine hundred ninety s. anymore i think this is more of an egge really tearing relationship between the united states and the gulf countries and it's hard to to see to what extent the united states actually still have leverage to pressure someone like saudi arabia the u.a.e. into a certain policy if they're not willing to do so i think it is quite contrary i think if you see the narratives coming out of the saudi of saudi arabia and the u.a.e. they suggest that they're not willing to compromise they're not willing to to make any concessions and they can live with the status quo there's also something very important and i think they will invest message really to change the donald trump's mind and tell him we're not willing to negotiate in a camp david agreement will only come into place if donald trump has any indication that the three will come to an agreement otherwise there will be no agreement i see or no summit mr somehow there now if the americans are eager to have this meeting happen in a calm day that and then against the backdrop of the articles must have read but to
go from the washington post of the new york times about the inner circle of the trump administration some of its members were plotting against qatar some of that was siding with the u.a.e. is it still possible for the american administration to set aside those differences from within the inner circle and move forward. but let me take my journalist up for a minute and put on my counterfeit resolution its hat on and you know that the sort of the one the one country resolution tells you that it's impossible to negotiate a compromise between parties unless both parties consent to two to negotiations so to get to get to the negotiating table you have to have an agreement from both sides that it's time to sit down and don't know pressure from the united states or are anywhere else is going to make them change their mind. too to the point that they will agree to do something that will resolve the conflict altogether now put
in my mind journalist that mark on the trump ministry should be able to do something and i doubt it very much i think. they are counted a little on all sorts of internal disputes serious and. sort of scandal. and then the need to have someone who knows the issues he knows the issues and who can direct it right and i don't think that's that's. other as it was the one hundred spoke about the point which is basically if you want to have a deal you have to have people sitting around the same table to go shouting for compromise in the past there was this list of thirteen demands we haven't heard back from the four rocketing countries about whether they are willing to maintain the thirteen demands as a prerequisite for any deal or they're willing to go for a compromise and therefore i mean i think they are putting these demands and making them really
a very complicated demands very difficult but very very very challenging demands because they don't want to to talk because they don't want to compromise because they don't want to come to the table disappearing conditions are a real obstacle in the in the way of the negotiation and the discussion from day one qatar has assured the interest to go for a dialogue but two ways dialogue not one way dialogue not been fierce your consent you admit you are you approved the thirteen points then we come to the table then you come to that there were to say what. therefore this any kind of dialogue it has to be a dialogue has to be forth the direction with a neutral mediator like kuwait i think united states is benefiting from this dispute actually through which were a form of from both sides i mean a working individually with with both sides now you see more of our d.
as you see more of their commercial europe is. very woody is benefiting go from this it's not for the of the interest for america to rush the settlement of this. dispute or the cost is i mean they they nor i mean when exactly to interfere and to make this pressure to for them to to come together mr craig i mean the axiom in international politics is basically we have. a spat the sides come together for them to break the impasse they have to make concessions do you see in the near future qatar is making concessions of the blockade in countries making concessions. i think as mr gore said i think it's they came up with this the same dispute that goes back decades and they come up with new narratives the narrative of terrorism then the narrative about iran in order to to accuse card of something
i thought i don't think it was ever about it in allowing qatar to actually meet these demands and ever make any concessions because there's nothing qatar can do if you look at qatar in two thousand and eighteen qatar has complied with all the demands that were made qatar is very open it's the most of it's a master student if you will in terms of opening up their books to the united states it's quite clear that everybody has a vision and look into the books of carter own terms of what god is doing with its finances it's an open policy in terms of reforming labor law i mean the countries are trying to address all these allegation they have done so so none of the allegations thick and they are not substantiated so there's nothing more cut i can do i do agree with a lot as well i think i think that the americans are just everybody is benefiting the europeans are benefiting of this bad because there are deals being made billions of dollars are being paid by the u.a.e. saudi end the countries in oil into and weapons systems for us as the sun honey
these countries share many things that are common they are there are tribal affiliations they're part of the arab league they are part of the g.c.c. yet they can set aside their differences where do you see the region if the crisis continues. well and i said earlier they have no choice but to put aside their differences and get together or else you're going to have a mini states as sort of italy was in the sixteen hundreds with city states fighting each other which is ridiculous. you said at the tribal or they're part of the arab league a part of this is see now so much in common they find a route through to dispute and the only ones benefiting are the europeans and the americans in selling weapons billions of dollars of me made by the french and by the americans selling guns to abu dhabi to. to to saudi arabia and they have to they have to look beyond that and realize that they have no options
other than to get along ok trying to look beyond that. after the crisis right after the crisis we saw signs of new political or reason realignments the turks stepped in the playing quite significant role iran itself if the crisis continues are we likely to see some sort of stronger alliance between qatar and iran for example i would say different. alliances in the region you know i mean before with all these communities among the g.c.c. there were always tensions but they we had leaders who were able to talk about them to contain them to i mean put them aside and focus on the common interests and you can serve your own interests as well but what is happening today this this ambitious this. hunger for the positioning and the
positioning made these countries very jealous of what qatar has really achieved politically media was. economy wise financially was i mean therefore i think part of it is very personal it's not does not rely on logic or her real interest or deeper. analysis therefore what i see it's a continuation of this crisis and lists these countries really think about the future of not for them for even their generic generation and the minister of qatar has said we lose a dollar they do is a dollar sort of i say we bleed they bleed i mean nobody is winning in this whole a crisis i see your point with the growth greg's very briefly to is this just as we're supposed to referee the spat the arab league just to see seen by many as the
most inefficient in the world in that absence do you see the g.c.c. disintegrating in the near future. i think we're seeing the g.c.c. being relegated to the same fate as the arab league it's talking shop where nobody's consistent anymore where people don't participate and people go their separate ways and i think the saudi u.a.e. realized that we see now is the end of the g.c.c. they will create their own alliance and i think the riff that is going to the gulf in the arab world is between the revolutionaries and the counter-revolutionaries and this will continue and that's something that will divide the g.c.c. for the years to come and rest greg close of honey up there as a whole thank you very much indeed for your contribution to the program and thank you too for watching you can see the program again and its time by visiting our website dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter al hunt it is a jane side story for me about on the whole team here by phone now.
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