tv Inside Story 2018 Ep 86 Al Jazeera March 28, 2018 2:32pm-2:42pm +03
to put in russia is not in the western interest but it is in the western interest to send a strong signal that actions such as the one once taken in the u.k. or the war crimes committed in syria for the for that matter that those are the aggression aggression is in ukraine that needs to stop and then the west is not pursuing these measures to have a cold war with russia nobody wants this this is not in our interest as i said we should actually be focusing much more on the competitive threat that's coming from china and elsewhere and not on on mr putin's russia was which is a security competitor but not an economic competitor with with the west and actually we're driving by having this confrontation with russia we risk driving mr putin's russia much closer to china than it would naturally be in the state of affairs saw sending a strong signal but then also being open to talks in case the kremlin decides to
stop the aggressive acts and come to a more cooperative relationship based on on international law and mutually agreed terms and this is not a call how long do you think russia can withstand the sort of international and what looks like isolation now and pressure because russia is of course it's not the soviet union you know it has important relations with the e.u. important economic relations with the e.u. it is much more integrated into the world economy you know more than the u.s.s.r. was it's already hurting of course because of sanctions juicer its actions in ukraine like how much more pressure can it withstand or does it have the appetite for. well let me let me let me tell you first of all that's russia has been will already withstanding this molding pressure from our western partners since the year of two thousand and fourteen since the joining your brain into the composition of the russian federation seoul and while russia will sustain will sustain this crisis
yes say sions are taking to all the i agree but not the extended russia will collapse and the other thing which i would like to ask my western colleagues were you are you are saying putin's russia putin's regime and that i think that that's all about just recent elections showed that the more than two thoughts of russian population including myself world that evolve the president to be loved him and putin saw which russia they would like to deal with in the future with all putin or with with someone else this is the system in the absence that's about it and how do you think that the u.s. is going to. as they put it in a say put in structure or the kremlin. i say putting pressure on the kremlin for the very same for the very reason that this is not directed against russian citizens and russian people they're not enemies enemies of the west it's their
government that trolls this confrontation with the west but we need to kind of keep the lines open especially with with russian citizens and you mention the elections when these were not free and fair elections i realize that mr putin also based on his propaganda machine has a great deal of support apparently within within the russian population but then why disqualify one candidate by turning him into a pseudo criminal and not allowing him to run that's missed and involved in another potential challenger was assassinated the year before so we cannot speak of fair fair and free elections and there is not an open information. environment in russia and that is. not talking about. the kremlin or the us and he'd like to bring missed a bad omen because mr bennet was talking about you know a more nuanced way of all of dealing with russia which is what he was saying that
the u.s. administration that the president donald trump has been you know dealing with this than he has been in the possible what will the u.s. administration do now do you think beyond these expulsions is there any way to to move forward here i think many of us in the united states were surprised that president trump has a more subtle approach to these issues than we originally thought of him because he's his public statements are often in conflict for his actions but i think what's important is president putin is the leader of russia countries deal with country countries and therefore we have to deal with president putin and the russian government we're not we're not going to deal with the people we prefer to leo with it within russia russia is an important player on many many issues that are important to the western countries and to the united states pacifically for example in the middle east we can't there's no such solution to syria unless the russians
are fully involved they've taken the lead of the plane aboard role everybody needs to help to solve that problem the iranian problem the aggression of iran in the region is a serious concern to many people russia has to be a partner in solving that ukraine obviously cannot be solved without russian participation therefore we do not want to see the relationship on extraneous issues break down our ability to work with russia to solve major international issues that are vital to the national interest of the world mr sutton called do you think that russia feels that now with this action that's being taken that this is a tenant of the tie that they are dealing now with a more united west and are they going to be more cooperative do you think. i don't think that you mentioned the phrase more united to us that night at west on which issue on the issue of expulsions but look if you have some small countries like poland greece or seoul they expelled for one diplomat and one diplomat will be
so make change for for for another diplomat coming to this country but that this is not united. to my mind this is not the united position this is just using the pretext the the very dubious pretext of killing the ex a spy scree paul to united to the united ranks of western powers but i would like to ask a question to my from from from from my colleagues out just small question what do you think how russia will be dealing with the western countries in the future it is a fight all these sanctions this bite all this pressure and everything mr banta you have thirty seconds to respond to that question i hope that mr putin's government will decide to deal with the west in a responsible and co-operative menno eventually as i said it's not in the west's interest to have a confrontation with russia nobody gains from from that in the in the west the
russian regime right now is a major nuisance but it's not a competitive economics threat and we hope that we come back to a relationship that is responsible and operative but that presupposes corporative and responsible behavior on the part of the kremlin mr baer thank you very much for that as thorsten bennett joining us from berlin that a masonic hall at moscow and a grand band of men and washington d.c. and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash a.j. and side story you can offer join the conversation on twitter to handle it at a.j. and five stories from mail of the product and the whole team here thank you very much for watching and bye for now. i.
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