tv Inside Story 2018 Ep 150 Al Jazeera May 31, 2018 3:32am-4:02am +03
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rocket attacks by palestinians in the west fighting between the size in four years a truce is in place but for how long and once triggered this latest escalation this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program. it's the most intense attack on israel by palestinian groups says the two thousand and fourteen war in gaza and this could have sparked another war how massive the islamic jihad launched a barrage of rockets into israel on tuesday wounding three soldiers it was in response to the deaths of palestinians by israeli ministry israel then targeted
dozens of facilities that belong to hamas and islamic jihad egypt intervened brokered. truce and ceasefire but there's no guarantee how long that will last the flare up of fighting in gaza follows weeks of unrest and the killing of at least one hundred twenty one palestinians in protests leading to the next catastrophe day when seventy years ago policy as were driven from their homes and the state of israel was created this is what policy impreza what i've had to say. you have to remember the. difficult days have passed on the west bank jerusalem and especially on the gas history these relic you patient launched today a fierce aggression on the gaza strip with rockets and aircraft this indicates that your q patient does not want peace however we want peace and we demand peace the
policy an islamic jihad. is a fashion that opposes the existence of israel it was founded in the late seventy's by palestinian students in egypt who were inspired by the muslim brotherhood and later influenced by the islamic revolution in iran the group's aim is to destroy israel liberate palestine and form an islamic state within the pre-one nine hundred forty eight borders islamic jihad does not take part in the palestinian political process and has opposed peace agreements like the oslo agreements that p.i. j. consent traits on armed revolt it's mr wing the brigades your suicide bombs against israel during the second intifada in two thousand the group which has its headquarters in syria reportedly receives funds from iran it is designated as a terrorist group by the us you and the u.k. let's now go to our guests joining us in with as. is professor of
political science at the university in jerusalem. palestinian politics research the forum for regional thinking and in istanbul. the istanbul in the university welcome to you all. the recent truce between the policy and armed groups and these rallies is this an isolated security arrangement or do you read more into it. well that is a very important question are to this moment we don't really know a lot of the thins about what happened last night until this moment israel has not admitted that there has been an agreement for a new seize fire on what we know that fighting between the palestinians and israeli side ended last night at about three am in the morning when
a senior leader from one us dr that the beauty leader of hamas in gaza admitted that there has been an understanding to the spic the cease fire which was brokered by egypt in august of two thousand and fourteen and put an end to this wady aggravation a guinness garza and that some are so it seems to me that we are not. a broad ching and you will see is fine and i greet him and between israel and the palestinian resistance a groups but more of our new commitment from both parties to the old seeds fire understanding that will reach by the egyptians about four years ago which basically put. pressure on both sides to respect their commitments and to start hostilities even though the terror hostilities is not that i see if i get jealous then ns but that that was the term of the cease fire which was the issue in two thousand and fourteen that is when must seize all of its source that it is
toward the palestinians and also the palace of distance or groups must seize all of their fire and rocket firing against israeli thousand and the hamas says the reason the troops there's been an agreement to as a truce these rallies still distance themselves from the notion of any agreement with hamas why do you think is this this is the case i think israel would like to leave its options open for any case of escalation we've seen being used to ignite fire is burning. seven hundred fifty acres of fields outside of the gaza strip in israeli communities so i think israel wouldn't like to commit itself to bind itself to a behavior and would like to leave its options open at the moment we have enjoyed four years of relative calm on the gaza border and i think israel would certainly like to return to that situation but for the time being probably israel wouldn't like to
obligate itself to a one sided truce by hamas as we've seen this but raj of mortar and rocket fire by hamas and jihad at the same time from gaza is this a quarter in a to push by the armed groups in cars or to move forward against the backdrop of the violence that we've seen on the one hundred twenty one people who were killed over the past few weeks. well there is a kind of pressure on these two groups on the ground when the palestinians are being killed for more than eight or nine weeks now since the outset of the demonstrations peaceful protest on the border with israel asking for the lift of the seed in their live eight in the conditions the people are living under now the israelis by continuing these kind of aggression and violence unilateral killing in committing a massacre against the people these militant groups will find themselves in out of options they only have to retaliate in order to maintain and sustain not the
a truce but the deterrence formula a to keep the israeli army away from going ahead with killing especially their militants and that is the new thing because hundreds of people have been killed and wounded in the past few weeks now because they israelis are targeting their member tents directly these two groups found themselves or plies them forced to go ahead with their return yet to really step taking these kind of measures to tell them that this is a snowball and if you continue by your aggression this doesn't mean that we don't need a violation or a an escalation in terms of the you know they clash is that it for tat operations but on the other hand we cannot just keep silent what are you going on with the aggression course this is going to have dire ramifications on the people on the ground because in any scenario any war on the gaza strip will have catastrophic
consequences on the people of the size of. i mean the egyptians so seem to have stepped in brokering this is fire of the likely to shape and if you arrangements between the israelis and the policy of fashion's operating in gaza. well it's no secret that the egyptians have on was played this role when our on every option of violence between the palestinian and israel has happened let me. remind you the viewers that egypt brokered a cease fire when the wanted love did in november two thousand and twelve and it was egypt who broke out of the latest ceasefire in august two thousand and fourteen which was brought to our attention. yesterday again and it also seems to me that there are an egyptian efforts right now between be taken by the
egyptians to broke up a long term seize filed or what we call it the long term would not or truce between israel and the palestinian resistance to groups mainly hamas and the islamic jihad in which. both parties will respect their commitment to the ceasefire agreement but also which will extend it for the noontime in exchange for israel to lift and ease its a siege on blockade against the gaza strip but also edit them for. how the us will have to stop digging in your tunnels between gaza and israel and and also will stop the improvement of its missile docket. technology but without that you will cease fire would be implemented or would be reached any time soon it's that is the big question because as long as there is no
knowing seized by alone no truce between the palestinians and israel it will not become a little bit of this which started more than two months ago will continue until june fifth at least on until israel and put that into its siege on blockade over the gaza strip and is it possible to talk about a range of beds a truce. as long as the core issues are not addressed properly particularly when it comes to the twelve year long blockade imposed on gaza well i think when talking about core issues we should first be honest about the sides to this conflict now there aren't just israel and the palestinians but in fact there are three sides to this conflict namely israel hamas and fatah now these two palestinian governments are now engaged in a battle of mutual destruction it's mahmoud abbas who demanded that israel reduce gaza's electricity by forty percent last june it's mahmoud abbas who stopped paying for patients to be treated in the west bank it's mahmoud abbas and stop paying
salaries for all civil servants in gaza so in order to reach an agreement with hamas israel is in a dilemma israel by accommodating hamas which i think or the people of the gaza strip which i believe it should do to some extent for humanitarian reasons would be putting itself in direct conflict with mahmoud abbas who's strategy is today to starve the gaza strip into submission and force hamas to capitulate and return all of its authority as security authority to the palestinian government so israel now needs to choose between siding with the side with the government of hamas which is committed to its destruction over the the side of mahmoud abbas which works and coordinates in security and assures israel's security in the west bank a serious dilemma which i think the viewers should know appreciate ok we're going to how to talk a little bit in detail about the political divide between the fashion's. is
it that is basically saying the problem lies in the political divide between hamas and that will to be honest this is like the very easy pretext to use the dial in may is in fact the israeli occupation it's not the mass in fact to split the. with all due respect this is what the israeli side is always using this obsolete outdated rhetoric and narrative they always speak about this but let's remind the viewers that yasser arafat's was they found out of the agreement and he was beseeched by the israelis when he was the sole and only you were determined to representative of the palestinian people and he was the partner of. the one who was killed by radical settlers are in israel please please just let me finish what i'm talking about and go back and the most and hurting thing.
the most important thing is the israelis are now in a big ethical dial him out where it is the whole raga state of israel is being exposed to the international exposure of this scandal of the israeli forces using this kind of excessive violence and force against civilians whether they're liberal or man the defense minister is saying there is no anderson people inside the gaza strip this is the democracy of israel let's say a racist democracy of israel when they try to tell the people look at what happened to the flotilla to the ship that his trying to breach the the siege on the gaza strip why they still going on with this siege of the gaza strip gaza strip is still on the occupation and the soldier in responsible for that that should be held accountable by the international community is the israel campaign should go to
a point let's give a chance to respond. let me be clear i think that israel's government has been an imaginative and maybe even lazy in finding solutions to gaza situation it should improve gaza's infrastructure and electricity and it should explain exactly the fishing it should expand please edition example the. yes i am it is their eyes this is tory like if you would allow evils the right would allow you guys not just grab a disease when we're right in israel and expand and expand the permit regime of allowing permits in in israel having said that let's not pretend meet us is israel's responsibility alone there is a strategy by the palestinian authority which works closely with israel to cause to force hamas to give up authorities there is a coordinated effort now by egypt and the palestinian authority and israel to put pressure on hamas now israel needs to choose whether its side with is out with its arab allies in the form of egypt and mahmoud abbas or whether it defends its own
security concerns on the gaza border whether there is even someone in the gaza side in hamas who is willing to reach understanding's with israel only a few weeks ago was my honey a said that they want to cause is really knew nothing about a new catastrophe he said that on the day of the nakba memorial so israel is really here facing a hard choice it wants to improve conditions in gaza it realizes that gaza humanitarian crisis has difficult repercussions not only on gaza but also on israel but it needs to decide politically as well what ramifications these moves will have speaking of the ramifications became the international community does not seem to be we willing to implement an aggressive. approach for a final because i was concerned why do you think its response has been so fun mutants well you can say that yes and no are yes the international community has
been very much silent over the past when views says israel imposes its siege on blockade against the gaza strip after hamas took over the gaza from the pier in the summer of two thousand and seven and you are not accepted this way to definition of gaza has almost died and that the israeli measures again it's gaza. time but a gradually i have to say that the international community's position toward these latest the jump luchador i get is gaza has. changed and we have seen a numerous occasions when they you on security did you not on with mr good terrorists on this is a ban ki-moon who has asked as well to put an end to it see you don't like it of the gazans that and to deal with the humanitarian. catastrophe or in the gaza strip which we have seen many facets of it in terms of poverty unemployment lack of
enough that is that the law could put up in wattle and also access and movement for the two million palestinians in the gaza strip but let me also remind you it gets missed out on hannan min of that it's not the palestinian divide who caused all of these problems to the two million palestinians in gaza before we are talking about the palestinian intifada of divide it's the continuation of these way the occupation of gaza and the palestinian territories for more than fifty years now and it's also the policy of these way to government to isolate the palestinians in gaza are not that it is not to recognize and accept and respect so the speak the results of the palestinian legislative elections in january two thousand and six when how. mouse won the elections and israel did not accept the results of those elections and it may also add one more point brooke that the palestinians are
really in a very delicate situation whenever there are serious talks between hamas and fatah to try to put an end to the palestinian internal divide this there comes the israeli role to sabotage any efforts to end the political the the internal divide it was in two thousand and fourteen one of us and felt that it a new argument on that day prime minister netanyahu out and said president mahmoud abbas must choose between peace with israel conciliation with others so it's the is why any government led by not danielle and the right wing who are sabotaging every effort that put forward to put an end to the palestinian who came of divide because it does serve the interest of israel i would like the palestinians divided between west bank and gaza to move forward to another angle related to this story in particular. these riley intelligence minister israel said that describing i mean
the now the barrage of rockets fired by hamas and jihad into israel saying i see a new brain fingerprinting is this could this be taken as an indication that these rallies could ask the action in gaza. well first of all i don't think that any party is interested in any of skill ation with the israelis or even have mass on the other hand because the situation is so for a giant and in case this kind of new cycle of violence erupt nobody anybody can start the war but nobody can know where it's going and when it's going to end and that's why the other angle of the hashem is the iranian cause and the coalition you should put things into a bigger context understand the dynamics of the whole region where any use in nicole vision is being set up by the suit is the i'm right is and trying to include
israel and to do that israel should always show that they are the enemy of the iranians and that's why you would understand the rhetoric coming from the gulf states against the hamas the muslim brotherhood and more intimate to israel and the united states and that would explain why israel is always trying to portray that it's iran they hate jono may of iran in the region that is they are trying to counter and they soon they the out of countries are more adamantly insisting on normalizing their relations with the israeli government in order to confront this kind of overt expansionist policy of the. lot on the other hand have mass and the islamic jihad and the other factions on the ground they do have a kind of responsibility to keep these kind of formulas on the ground like to keep the truce the defacto status but on the other hand they're peacefully working with
the people in a peaceful demonstration to expose the hypocrisy of the international community the inaction of the united states united nations and also the arab word the arab league that they are unable even to condemn now to put to offer the other friends the. something to work on like there kate ok. and how man do you think that the iranian factor has been mentioned by israel is something that there could be seen as an attempt by these rallies to deflect attention from the fact that iran is not the issue in iran the issue is the killing of civilians of innocent people in gaza by these rallies which is the issue that has to be addressed. well iran is part of the issue because iran is the main financer today of both hamas and islamic jihad but going back to the previous subject i should certainly the government of netanyahu has benefited if or sees as the situation of disunity between hamas and fatah
between gaza and the west bank as beneficial to israel i disagree with that position i think that the two sides can only reach an agreement when there is palestinian unity but on the other hand let's not kid ourselves i mean a few weeks ago when there was an attempt on the life of prime minister in gaza it was mahmoud abbas who accused hamas of trying to assassinate law and saying that he has proof of that so professor of assad let's not absolve the palestinian side of responsibility for the state of disunity when israel had to establish its state in forty eight it managed to overcome very deep political divides and i would say arms and militias that existed in multiple groups and unify under one arms under one army under one leadership and under one strategy the palestinians in order to reach peace with israel in order to return to the negotiating table will have to do the
same thing they'll have to overcome attempts to weaken them both by israel and both by other countries including arab countries the palestinians can't throw all the responsibility and all the blame just on the israeli question to. you heard what basically was saying that but if he is need to get their act together set aside their differences and move forward do you see it that way now now it is it is. interesting what was mentioned by mr millet about that made in mind a few of your points here that yes are not exempting the palestinians from their own responsibilities with regard to the continuation of the political divide between was but on gaza which has been going on for all. most eleven years now and it is that an ugly sad thing for the palestinians are for the palestinian national project but let me remind mr al hunt on middle of that it was is way in who
encouraged the palestinians to clash out between us and that one is where decided to do this in gage from the gaza strip in the summer of two thousand and five without negotiating this israeli withdrawal from gaza with the palestinian authority which was the address for the palestinian people and. these are all you need longer in the third israeli intention. well that doesn't it should not exempting the palestinians from golan. but without that it would not doubt it would would this is weighed into this but let me let me also let me also add. running right into our money money is now thank you thank you put an end to that but it's is when the thank you very much thank you my mother was. a model of what i really appreciate your sign thank you but unfortunately we're running out of time for the show. and thank you too for watching you can see the
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