tv The Stream 2018 Ep 93 Al Jazeera June 12, 2018 7:32am-8:01am +03
when the two men were around the table kim was repeatedly asked by reporters three times are you going to give up your nuclear weapons he didn't answer the question that silence i think is another of the key takeaways from this day in other news spain has offered to take in a migrant rescue ship that's been turned away from. the aquarius is run by the charity as very third any caring six hundred twenty nine people who were rescued off the libyan coast. three attacks in afghanistan have killed and injured dozens of people twelve died when a suicide bomber blew himself up with the ministry of development in kabul. we're back at the top of the hour stay with us. from the tropics of self these days to the fear of islands in the far north atlantic when i went east meets the women who crossed the route for love and stage change
a community. and imo they could be here in the stream now live on you tube today our show page by you online community will look at china's so-called reeducation camps for muslim leaders and in uganda attacks on social media. every day on twitter and facebook we asked for your story ideas and you deliver it our first segment was pitched to us from uganda to uganda mike he talks about an order from the president to attack social networks and then of a poor scores they simply the social media tax in uganda starting in july taxing citizens two hundred. about five u.s.
cents per day for using social media networks including whatsapp twitter and skype supporters of the tax say it will help alleviate the country's debt but what impact will it have elsewhere joining us to talk about this we have raised welcome mary she is a journalist and activist who's been following this salary well as well good to have you here any indication just what's coming up people using social platforms would be charged a day the rate which that come from i think. very huge. and the government really has find really. good ways to cut down on the rich would be cutting government spending and he's. actually. that's the only really can. well we're getting. you social media in their name. which is not
even do much what. we hired them some speculation and some people guesstimating why they think this is going to come into place this is great she says the president and the cons regulatory authority have mostly attributed this tax to the increase in gossip on social media which directly translates into limiting freedom of speech the government has been threatening over the years to find a solution to this pope gossip problem and now they have rolled out what does that mean what does gossip mean to the government. i think this has to be understood the spirit of the of the policy that broke these guards in the opposite of these drugs is. expression which has been happening outside of the control of the state and with social networks the government has been really and able to find a way to absolutely have an impact we have seen
a few times they've arrested people for inspiration online we have seen during the two thousand and sixteen in their actions we were shut down on what's up increase broken into. what the government. to make sure that the message doesn't go out to stop people from or be lazing or any likely mobilization against the results which many people believe were rigged so we have seen these moves in the past but they have not been able to really been successful but. they are trying to deploy a monetary way cleanings the freedom of action in those one just when i think the sort of thing that might upset the savannah on whatsapp or twitter image in elections or elections are always contentious and as a political back and forth is it just about the politics of opposition voices
always it more than that that's happening on the social platforms where the government is getting irritated at the way people are talking. we have to understand that this is a thirty two year old routine and governing the country was average age is around fifteen years gun and the best when you look at the gun and less than thirty years the about seventy percent this is a young population looking for real real solutions from a government in this government is not giving solutions so this has nothing to do with maybe crime opposition but also growing discontent within the country in the ability for young people to be online in formulate in mobilize ensure that they are they can be heard in they can't organize their voices to be heard whether. or caught in the past without social media networks so with that platform the government is really scared of this debate that never dealt with the before so rose
i hear it you're saying anthony actually we got a response to the point that you just raise via twitter this is a boy or who says social media is the only platform the public uses to criticize the government and all of its organs for poor service delivery by imposing a tax on them it will minimize further you said and criticism so that's one person's view but i want to turn to who this will affect we've got a big comment from a journalist in uganda this is lydia and this is who she thinks will be most affected. i mean you. spend. twenty cents and ten cents a day on panders to access social media so an extra cash sense is between twenty to fifty percent and then in spending time thinking yes it will be prohibitive the sorts of uses this is the real looking out people who are not yet a man and people who lie just chatting to experiment without arms first
one who do you think will be most impacted by this. we had to cut low income earners in uganda in the process that we have an employment unemployment rate. likely to save ugandan young people who are. using very low or vandals we call them. in there. and she is to engage in the conversation would have to remember you might think that two hundred shillings is something small but strong that uganda is one of the country going up with the one of the largest many. internet access because it's very high when they make it how do you cut the people from risk so this does not make sense in which we only have eighteen percent of our relation using mobile internet
connection. i'm just looking at a quote here on my laptop it's from president seven he said this back in march of this year i'm not going to propose a tax on internet use for educational research of reference purposes these must remain free in fact the idea of having an internet that's very excessive all the people can get to that's very important for uganda so i'm just wondering is it possible to have both things how do you know if something is looking are a source for information for their school work or posting on twitter how how would you even place this. i think trying to track these services to our case broke. in and what and messaging classifying game as no it is really biggest one that's not understanding what the internet provides in what these platforms provide every day online i see you've got a young man and advertising their product exchanging information about
opportunities these are drivers of they cannot mean so when you cut out communication people are not going to be global. economy is driven by connections in how many much people can be connected how you can grow the economy but trying to say you only agree with google and not other messaging. platforms where people can really connect about our world and i think that lack of understanding really what what the internet provides for this country the roads are perhaps not surprisingly a lot of the conversation online is this tax comes into place where will the money actually go this is one person who says consolidation of power by the occupying regime he says it's costing uganda a lot taxes wouldn't be a bad thing if they were channeled to the right cause of service delivery however most of the revenue is telling channeled. where breaking in to take you to singapore where we're looking at pictures of the
u.s. president just at his back donald trump standing emerging after having lunch with the north korean leader who we can also see on the screen right there kim jong un has just emerged after a meeting of working lunch we did hear donald trump reference something about going for a signing a spring in our diplomatic editor james varies james was going on well. well it doesn't look a particularly well choreographed scene right now but it does look like a friendly scene and look him going one way trump going the other i think we actually saw the signing perhaps just a few moments ago when cameras were not a live picture but other cameras were seen filming the two man i think they may well have now signed their declaration certainly they came out of the lunch the two leaders walked past reporters they didn't seem to be a translator they seemed to be happily conversing we had thought that perhaps kim
speaks some english he certainly speaks enough english to talk to president trump for that walk past the camera crews where president trump was asked how it had been going and he said it's going better than anyone could have expected they said what about the signing and he said we're going there in just a few moments i think we then saw a signing of something and i think the two leaders have gone their own way we see the north north korean delegation i just saw the north korean foreign minister in the live picture and that i think is the car if you're getting the same pictures i am the will one of one of the cars that will take the north koreans away it looks like they're on time it's quarter to one local time and north koreans all along said that their leader and his entourage would be leaving singapore at two pm so that makes sense that the north korean car with the north korean flags the armored
limousine would head back into the center of singapore to the ritz carlton sorry the cent regis hotel and then to the airport to take them on the plane the air china plane to pyongyang having concluded a meeting the president trump said has gone much more successfully than anyone could of thought there is a big question though if we have just seen the signing what did they sign we have not seen the text yet we do not know the word. we do not know whether they have come to some agreements on some key issues what is certain is that this is a historic moment but not a historic deal this is the first meeting the first part of what may well be a long process. earth's just point out james as you were talking we're running some of the latest pictures that that's not live now about was what was going on just literally seconds ago. as you were saying james bays and it's not
very clear from actually signed a statement on i guess this is something we're going to find out hopefully in the next you know in the few moments to come but take us through what the expectation is in terms of waltz and they would sign at this point. well i think it's some sort of declaration some sort of statement of intent they will not be able to agree all the details but they may well be able to agree the agenda of the things they are working on going forward and clearly top of the agenda is denuclearization will the words that the u.s. wants in there be their complete verifiable irreversible denuclearization what they call c.v. had. the secretary of state said the problematic bit of that was verification trying to actually make sure that north korea does what it says it's going to do
and certainly from the u.s. side that's why they believe the process of engagement between the u.s. and north korea in the one nine hundred ninety s. and then the after the year two thousand when the bush administration took over where things broke down it was interesting to see in the last pictures we saw of the presidents and the north korean leader together right beside trump side and chatting i think to kim as well was john bolton the national security advisor he was a key player in that george w. bush administration when things broke down really badly with north korea and of course president bush ended up adding them to his list of countries that he declared the axis of evil last certainly not how they're dealing with north korea today a lot of smiles we've seen in the last couple of hours there in the compound hotel and even as you were talking there we're seeing quite a friendly scene as i said moments ago of donald trump conversing with the north
korean leader we're still trying to get clarification on what exactly is happening right now or has the north korean leader left that summit venue has the signing taken place you've talked a little bit james about what the expectation was from the u.s. perspective of any stay. what about the north koreans perspective what did they want to get into the text of any statement. well i think the north koreans have a very different view on what denuclearization means they have probably a different view of what it actually. covers and the timeline for it so with regard to detour a zation i think they'll say which they've always said we'd like to see no nukes on the korean peninsula but they think they mean by that not only would they give up their nuclear weapons but they would want those u.s. troops there are twenty eight thousand five hundred u.s.
troops in south korea they want them out because they are troops of a nuclear power of the united states so it shows that there are nuclear power has presence on the korean peninsula they also i'm sure would say we don't want to give up all our nuclear capability you know look at the iran deal iran was allowed to keep civilian nuclear power it's not clear whether that kim is committed anyway to give up his nuclear weaponry so the difference likely there and a difference i think on the timeline and the rewards for north korea north korea will want a safety guarantee from the united states it will want the sanctions lifted and it probably wants this to be a phased process where each phase every time north korea does something it is rewarded with sanctions relief the u.s. on the other hand want this to be a much quicker process and they want to conclude it as quickly as is technically possible but only at the very end where north korea has no nuclear capability whatsoever would they lift the sanctions and james i'm getting word here let's just
bring us all up to speed with the latest line is that they actually have not signed that statement yet they have finished their meeting they finished their working lunch and they had that little chat that we saw moments ago but they haven't actually. left the venue and i haven't had the signing so assumably there is a statement coming shortly with hold to be signed and that should be rather shortly one assumes given the schedule which you outlined for when kim jong un plans to leave singapore. let's just take a moment to reflect on what happens next assuming that this ends in the signing of a statement this should be some mechanism established for regular talks going forward right. yes there needs to be a process this is
a very unconventional way of doing things normally you would have a process first that would go on for a very long time and then at the very end of the process where everything had been done when all the i's in the t.'s have been crossed then you would at that moment bring in the leaders to sign it is in diplomatic terms always pre-cooked and then they sign at the end that's not how this has happened this has been a most unusual and most excel aerated period of diplomacy worth reminding you sammy that almost a year to date three hundred sixty four days ago is when the u.s. student auto warm beer who'd been in north korea was arrested allegedly for taking a propaganda poster off a wall he was held in north korea the u.s. says he was tortured in north korea and three hundred sixty four days ago he was finally allowed to be flown home to the united states in a coma and then he died that was one of the bad moments of
a very bad year of relations between the u.s. and north korea in september you saw president trump threaten to totally destroy north korea not only did he say that he said it while other world leaders were gathered around him in a place that should be a place of peace the u.n. general assembly diplomats were shocked that anyone could use such bellicose language and yet in some ways that is one of the things that may well have got us to this moment today this historic moment that's taking place in singapore at the capella hotel on sentosa island a very luxury island in singapore full of five star hotels and golf courses and that's where we're seeing pictures from now where inside we suspect something is likely to be signed very soon and then we'll see at the. end of that the motorcades part first we think the north koreans will be leaving because
they're due to leave in a very short time now on their flight back to pyongyang in about an hour and ten minutes is the schedule for that to take off but of course these things don't always go to schedule and if there are more details to iron out they will stay and on those details even if it's just a broad statement that very generally covers the issue of denuclearization and some form of security guarantees for north korea how important is it for both leaders now to be able to have something to sign and go back to their countries and and hailed this meeting as a success. well i think it's domestically very very important for both leaders for the north korean side chairman kim will see this as a recognition that he is a nuclear power on an equal footing with the big powers of the world and with the
united states and was there at a summit at an equal level with the most powerful man in the world the president of the united states there is a difficulty of course for the north korean side and that's changing the narrative back home i do not expect you're going to see everything that we've seen and the rest of the world has seen in one country north korea they'll be very careful how they try and change the perception because of course the u.s. has been the great enemy for seventy years it is a little bit difficult to suddenly turn when you have state controlled media has been saying the same thing but all of that time to turn the story to a very new story for president trump if you look at what's been going on on the domestic agenda and on the global agenda he has not got a great deal of successes to point to in terms of international diplomacy he had that summit that didn't go particularly well with the g.
seven he fell out with his major allies that's one that perhaps though he can sell certainly to his base back home look at how i'm taking on those countries that are treating america unfairly on trade but this even though we don't have a deal he can sell as a historic moment look what i did that no other president has ever been able to do i sat down with the north korean leader i it was my bombastic it was my bellicose language that got this to happen in a way that would never have happened under president obama and it's constantly a comparison that with this present system when you look at president trump and i think i'm not being cynical here that the key. coming up for president trump is not an international date it's november it's the midterm elections they're looking for victories they're looking for things that they can say to those who will be voting who have republicans on the ticket go for the republican candidate because look what the republican party and president donald trump is achieving so for the for
the u.s. side they will say this is history and this is an achievement of one man. james what about the expectations for this summit means for hopes of a formal end to the korean war. well i think that's another piece of all of this is what happens now with regard to the regional dimension and of course it's worth remembering that this follows that historic summit that we saw . at the end of april between the north koreans and the south koreans because kim really is making history as north korean leader because he became the first north korean leader to step into south korea since the end of the korean war his grandfather was briefly in seoul and that's when briefly north korea took over soldier in the korean war but that was a historic moment for the two careers and from jay in the president of south korea
he has been very key in the diplomatic initiatives he was elected on a platform of trying to reach out to north korea and for him this will be seen as a victory i think to a partial victory because we're nowhere near the end of the process but will be welcomed i think from the south korean leader who said he'd stayed up all night last night because he was so worried about what was going to happen this was going to be always with president trump particularly down to the chemistry well you seen the beaming smiles the chemistry works the two men seem to get on. all right james frey's there are diplomatic editor taking us through some of the latest pictures perhaps we can bring them in of what we were looking at moments ago there we go those are the latest pictures that's the last sighting we had of the two leaders leader of the united states of america and north korea talking after they ended their working lunch now they are still inside capella hotel and santo's island in
singapore and we understand that they're preparing for a signing of a statement that's expected to be signed before the north korean leader will then leave singapore and we'll hear later then from the u.s. president donald trump and get some more details on how this summit has concluded and what is the process going forward there are a lot of expectations on the statement covering denuclearize asian security guarantees and what all this could mean of course for ending a formal end to the korean war we'll be back at the top of the hour with another four bulletin of news and of course there is our website zero dot com if you want to stay across the headlines twenty four seventh's.
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on al-jazeera how do you. think. history in the making dog trump and kim jong un hold the first ever meeting between a sitting u.s. president and north korea and. the really going to be a lot of progress really very positively better than anybody could expect. amazing that many thought would never happen is addressing long yang's nuclear ambitions. i'm sam is a band this is al jazeera live from doha also come.