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tv   Inside Story 2018 Ep 163  Al Jazeera  June 12, 2018 8:32pm-9:00pm +03

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some of the refugees that were in on the aquarius. well at least two refugees have died in major downpours in southern bangladesh where nearly one million or hinge are living in camps the monsoon rains of triggered landslides which have damaged and destroyed some settlements greece and macedonia have reached an agreement to resolve a decades old dispute over the name of the small balkan nation that this feud between the two neighbors had been an obstacle to macedonia joining both nato and the e.u. and it led to protests in greece and the macedonia of the proposed name is the republic of norse macedonia and pretty good those are the headlines of al-jazeera news hour coming up in half an hour.
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confident done all chances came young and he's serious about abandoning his nuclear program but after the historic summit in singapore what will the north korean leader get in return and is this the beginning of a new iraq this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program. donald trump has become the first u.s. president to meet and shake hands with a north korean leader after months of speculation of the summit was even going to happen the two men met on singapore's sentosa island they held a fourteen minute meeting followed by a signing of a joint statement in which they agreed to the denuclearization of the korean
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peninsula but it was a document vague in detail and lacking a timeframe we'll get in a moment first adrian brown begins our coverage from singapore. no one was sure quite what to expect from the summit release a very talented. if this goes for just the good news they seem to get on but as expected u.s. president donald trump and the north korean leader kim jong il signed a deal vague on details it says the united states and north korea will work towards denuclearization but missing the would verify. by and irreversible at a news conference trump was pressed on that saying he now trusts the north korean leader it does take a long time to you know pull off a complete de nuclearization you takes a long time scientifically you have to wait certain periods of time and
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a lot of things happen but despite that once you start the process it means it's pretty much over can't use them that's the good news and that's going to start very very soon i believe it's going to start very soon we will do it as fast as it can mechanically and physically be done in the meantime sanctions will remain but trump said the regular exercises between the militaries of south korea and the u.s. would end but again no specifics or mention of a peace treaty either act one in this diplomatic drama that began almost five hours earlier with a handshake that may have changed the course of history. u.s. president donald trump said he had no within a minute of meeting him if he'd get on with it so this was the moment he began sizing him up. the start perhaps of an improbable relationship in probable times. to nuclear armed leaders one of whom
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a real estate developer and reality t.v. star the other an international pariah and why aren't. you at. your plant there speaking through an interpreter kim said the way here had not been easy for. the old practices and prejudices worked against this but we are here and now. their day started at nine am local time in singapore prime time viewing in the united states. the two leaders were joined by their officials if the two sides stick to what they've agreed here will be many more meetings in the garden all seemed amicable as the two. leaders strolled in talk together and there was something trump was keen for kim to see the inside of his official limousine known as the beast both leaders will feel they've got something out of this summit each gets the prestige of meeting the other kim gets to appear committed to denuclearize
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ation while trump may yet be credited as being the first u.s. president to bring peace to the korean peninsula the deal makes no mention either of north korea's harsh human rights history you know this is a fundamental freedom this is a principle of human existence and you know for donald trump to say that kim jong un is now a nice guy when he's got one hundred twenty thousand people in gulags in the mountains is just not on a few diplomatic encounters have been so eagerly anticipated the question now is whether all this will prove to be a little more than just a series of photo opportunities adrian brown al jazeera singapore. let's bring in our guests in washington d.c. scott snyder senior fellow for korea studies and director of the program on the u.s. korea policy of the council on foreign relations in singapore time
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a junk research fellow for the east asian institute of the national university of singapore and joining us on skype from beijing. director of the china national association of international studies thank you all for joining us. scott isn't this an historic meeting by all stand it was definitely an impressive and historic event this is the first time in seventy years us the north korean leader have match it was certainly well stage and i think a change in many respects in the international environment in east asia. first of all u.s. president was willing to meet with a north korean leader but secondly i don't think that sort of meeting could have occurred without the facilitation and support of south korea and president in which has been who has been the most active supporter in trying to put these two together
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time who would have ever thought of the two men who were exchanging harsh words over the last few months would come together shake hands and agree on move forward who has a future many in this region feel that the summit taking things itself is a success and the president mungy in as well as miss kim your job the sister of mr kim jong un played a very important intermediary role in bringing this summit to hand we can see that president moon reported constantly back to washington and share information with tokyo in order to have a quite a nation between the u.s. and its allies and miss keep your job also passed messages from her brother to the western allies and especially to press the moon to make this summit possible so
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many consider that the summit taking place itself is a success and there were many takeaways during a president trumps a press conference where he mentioned that the secretary of state might pompei all will be taking over from here by sending a team to pyongyang. for the c.v.i. the purposes pleat. reversible verifiable reversible be nuclearization so we can see this summit occurring in different phases there's also a pole summit follow up after that victor do you see it as an historic moment or do you think it's all of it outcome though would define whether this is an important moment for both leaders i would say the meeting itself taking place in singapore today is a historical meeting and it deserves all the importance and recognition throughout the world however i would say the true litmus test for the d.p.
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r. k. us relations is still deep new crowd zation and there doesn't seem to be a consensus between president obama and chipmunk him about what. did across the issue is really about there's not timetable there is no process involved for example so i think when we talk about the new privacy issue it is too early to say whether this is a successful meeting or not and the process involved going forward may be a very large and protective announce certain process so while we cheer for the some big meeting today we need to be conservative and proved it in our estimation of how to what exactly will be the outcome of the new rows issue. scott i mean if you look at the document that was signed by both leaders it offers very few specifics isn't this an issue that could trigger many problems in the near future because we don't
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have any timetable we don't know we don't have a road map and we don't see an exit strategy when it comes to the deal but yes there is no doubt that there is a lot of work to be done going forward i think that there are concerns that maybe the united states leaned a little bit too far forward in terms of meeting north korean. and without getting much for super cation but at the same time for the u.s. to pledge to make peace with north korea it essentially puts north korea into a position where we have to see if north korea can take yes for an answer the u.s. hostile policy perceived by north korea has always been the primary stumbling block that they have pointed to with regards to the possibility of denuclearization. is that it naive at this particular moment to think that north korea which has been said that for decades nuclear program possibly it's not tional.
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sovereignty. and suddenly come now and say we're willing to give to give it up i mean most policymakers and observation in the east asian region no are realistic about the outcome of this talk many of pragmatic considering the summit happening itself to be itself a victory and many are taking a patient kind of stance when it comes to real results and in the press conference by president from we saw the steps that he's laid out for us he's going to send secretary of state might prompt pompey are over and there will be a team that's made up of a mix in the national members as well as american members for the very fair process . and also other nuclear technical experts there will be involved and after that should the chemical as well as a physical process be completed to such
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a stage where nuclear development is no longer reversible and the nuclear devices are no longer usable president trump has mentioned that he will remove the sanctions on the north korea ok so we can see that there's different stages involved and once that's happened it will be right for peace treaty and also an economic incentives and that's what he laid out this afternoon. does china share the same optimism that we've seen over the last few hours about the meeting or do you think the main pretty much cautious about it. no for several years chapman has insisted that there is only one viable option to that he decries is in the charlotte group that is for the united states anti the r.k. to sit down and talk and do diplomacy and dialogue with each other rather than threatening the use of force against each other therefore from the chinese perspective the summit we did take employees in singapore is exactly what china had
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required and asked for and this is a vindication a validation of what china has stood for for all these years therefore i think china considers this a good meeting but also considers this is just the beginning of a long process both the united states and d p r k need to hold themselves accountable to the tasks they are committed to these denuclearize should and the security arrangement for the security of the p r k going forward these two goals need to be combined with each other rather than being separate from each other let's have a look at the previous talks and agreements between the u.s. and north korea in one thousand nine hundred for president bill clinton's administration signed a deal to freeze north korea's nuclear program in exchange for aid and fuel shipments six years later than secretary of state madeline albright met north korea's leader kim jung il in pyongyang in an attempt to expand their agreement and
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prepare for a potential visit by president bill clinton the talks failed the framework broke down in two thousand and two when president george w. bush accused north korea of secretly pursuing your am in which meant program north korea said the u.s. backed out of it and of the deal a year later china host of the u.s. japan south korea and russia for dialogue with north korea known as the six party talks pyongyang insisted it would not give up its nuclear weapons program and six years later those talks collapsed that in. two thousand and twelve president barack obama reached an agreement with north korea's new leader kim young that would hold to young's nuclear program and allowed in international inspectors in exchange for us aid but the deal fell apart after north korea announced it would stop testing long range ballistic missiles scott i mean if you look at the history of the
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attempts to states together a deal they all collapsed because a quiet in the nuclear capabilities and improving the but let's stick myside capability has been very instrumental for north korea why would they change that now well that's precisely i think what we watch to find out i personally think the key to understanding or examining the potential for a shift in north korea on its nuclear policy lies with north korea's domestic political environment and the big question is really whether or not north korea has reached a stage of development where economic development and integration with the world has become so important to key constituencies in north korea that they're pressing kim jong un to move in a different direction and to focus on economic development rather than nuclear
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capability but what i worry about is that maybe the leader still feels that his domestic legitimacy is based on the nuclear capability and so he wants to use that as a platform and a buffer that enables him to reach out rather than making a choice thai way isn't it premature to talk about any progress knowing that according to all that for north korea to dismantle its nuclear program it would take a police ten years it may not be premature in the sense that we have seen a very unconventional. u.s. president negotiating with mr kim mr kim for the past few years has has been consolidating his power domestically he has the support of the mccann isms of the workers' party the military and so you have a special moment in history where you have a president who is keen on transactional diplomacy to react according to scenario
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and you have a north korean leader who has the full support of his party and his military coming together now what president tran has mentioned in the press conference is that technically speaking it will take time some experts he called it says that it may take a decade of more or more because it takes time to verify each or stage and there are good mechanical and physical processes involved so that the lady is purely technical and not really going back on political or geopolitical reasons that's what he mentioned in the this afternoon victor you have been basically saying about china has been pushing all the parties to negotiate a settlement but there are those who say that on the other hand china could be the one to lose from. it when north korea and the u.s. because ultimately if that happens north korea's want to depend any more on china. no i don't think so i think china is major factor in east asia china was
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a major factor is a major factor and we remain a major factor in the coming years and decades or so i'm sure it's this fact cannot be changed and therefore china does not worry or fall deep yaki have in our efforts fall with united states as a matter of fact china wants to create a situation where the united states and deep dark it can be friends rather then and emits because what china does not want is to have hostility on the korean peninsula chunk of those not want to have a war of confrontation on the truth of this is so long as there is peace and stability on the curb in this era china fed with its war then otherwise so don't get china wrong in what china wants i think china does not have us that fish vested interest in the instability on the tour import insula just on the contrary china wants to promote a situation where our d.p. r. k.
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owl and the united states can become friends ok then and i'm its point scott what does it mean for the americas does it considered a the general sentiment that trump is good at doing things based on instant no i actually think that most people most analysts here in washington are concerned about over reliance on instincts by the president. and i think that the general view is that. it would be better to work together with north korea but based on a healthy mistrust rather than based on the idea of trust and trust is one of the points that president trump mentioned in his singapore press conference that i think that many people here in washington will feel is premature just on a few hours meeting with the leader of very repressive regime thai way as far as mr kim is concerned if they go this summit would. turned the chops of the years
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were seen as an international pariah internet as a global leader mr kim jong un is trying to turn a page on history because since the korean war ended in one nine hundred fifty three it ended with a cease fire so he wants to sign and present trumpets well wants to sign. a peace treaty or to be in effect so that the next step of of the nuclearization and subsequently economic sanctions lifting as well as economic investments from the u.s. and its allies can come in this will take a long time there will be a lot of obstacles and challenges involved but this is what he envisions lifting the sanctions as well as economic economic investments coming into his country fits with his domestic agenda of economic development secretary might pompei or says that if the nuclearization is move the u.s. is has the capabilities to bring north korea up to the same standard as his cell
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than counterpart south korea so we can see there's a lot of economic incentives being sort of thrown around and offered by the u.s. the u.s. has also shown a video in which north korea has an alternative vision a vision in which is reintegrate into the wall community in which economic development can take place north korea is very much looking forward to economic development and if you look if you read the chinese state daily today sheen one news agency is called. chairman kim saying that it even wants to study singapore as a model of economic development so i think it shows that north korea has this inclination for reintegration victor the implementation of the of the deal will definitely take quite some time do you think the path will be just one way u.s. north korea or do you think is going to be multilateral taken into account russia
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china japan and south korea ascii players. well for today it's a day of joy and let's give today the best of hope that we can come up with however going forward i think we need to be very realistic and very pragmatic that means the united states already said that they do not have the money to you vesting d.p. out k. president i want from being as he want to count on china japan are all came to come up with the money to be invested in the p r k and i would be very much surprised if there will be any more government on the economy are from the united states to be invested in t.p.r. kate let's be realistic that's number one number two is that there is a chicken and egg issue as to whether and how of the denuclearization should be achieved on the one hand and how the sentients would be lifted
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and investments would be allowed into d.p. r. k. and the internal reality relations between these two equally important things need to be handled very properly and i think the expectation of the p r k versus the inspector asian of the united states are just opposed to each other and whether one side eventually will lose patience against the other side we do not know i would say that that rolled forward is full of challenges and on certainty while we need to be maximum bullish and optimistic about the future we also need to be very careful ok very prudent and very realistic as early as what exactly is going to happen i have one last question for scott please in less than a minute if and mr comes then says in the near future talks between the u.s. and north korea collapse what kind of impact would it have on trump's future.
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well i do think that there is still a risk of a breakdown given the thinness of the joint statement and clearly this is perceived president trump is claiming it as a major accomplishment so it could have negative ramifications but also and i think is betting on this as well so we have to wait and see it would be very interesting to see what would happen and then if you say in the meantime scots. time away thank you very much indeed for your contribution to the program appreciate it and thank you for watching you can see the program again and its time by visiting our website. facebook page facebook dot com a story you can also join the conversation. a.j. insights from. the whole team here by phone now.
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