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the i.m.f. said riyadh's a breakeven or a price for twenty eighteen is likely to be around eighty eight dollars a barrel why is argentina again turning to the i.m.f. for help now we bring you the stories that is shaping the economic world we live in counting the cost on al-jazeera. make time for europe that's the german chancellor angela merkel on the migrant crisis which is polarizing the ease some countries are threatening to seal the borders so could that sealed the fate of the european union itself this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm peter it is an issue that has split the european union and as the german chancellor angela merkel is warning it's make or
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break time for the future of the twenty eight nation bloc e.u. leaders are in brussels to discuss the migration crisis with deep divisions over how to manage the migrant flow into europe a controversial proposal to set up asylum seeker processing centers in northern africa will be examined france and germany want a shared responsibility among the member states but right wing governments are demanding tighter border controls and policies to reduce the number of migrants getting in well ahead of the summit dress the german parliament warning of how vital it is that europe does find the right solution. oh but you know how europe faces many challenges but migration could become the make or break one for the e.u. either we manage it so others in africa believe that we are guided by values and believe in multilateralism not unilateralism or nobody will believe any longer in the system of values that has made us strong that's why it's so important a you leaders have been here before especially in twenty fifteen when the migration
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crisis in europe was at its peak but they struck deals with countries like turkey and libya to keep refugees from ever reaching the continent in the first place it's been working for more than a million refugees in twenty fifteen the international organization for migration says the numbers arriving by sea dropped to under forty three thousand so far this year most of them cross the mediterranean and reach spain italy and greece almost forty percent arrived in italy the rest split evenly between greece and spain nine hundred seventy two people died trying to make that crossing italy is turning away ships carrying refugees rescued from the mediterranean sending a clear message to europe that they will no longer bear the brunt of migration italy's interior minister mathias sell beanie has told refugees to pack their bags and many italians many of whom still believe migrants are still flowing in at crisis levels welcoming his anti immigrant rhetoric charlie angela is in sicily
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finding out how refugees there feel about this new more hostile environment. a bus from catan yeah unloading into cardamon new one of europe's largest refugee camps here there is fresh for refugees applying for asylum they've heard that italy's new interior minister is hostile to migrants and their rights just. so whatever he puts is that it'll just fully so even if he said revolution will talk a little of it into sleep. ernest came from ghana when he was fifteen he lost his mother in libya and made his way to italy alone now a husband and father the camp has been his home for four years lawyers say these people are the lucky ones italy's new policy of turning boats away will make new arrivals almost impossible. going back to twenty fifty where there's no distinction between genuine refugees and economic migrants we're going back because the
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government is now talking about preventing people from even requesting asylum talking about denying access based on the country of origin and this is a violation of international law italy has shut its ports to charity boats carrying rescued migrants they believe if these boats disappear migrants might be tempted to cross the mediterranean but charity boats account for forty percent of the search and rescue operations here in testing this idea thousands could die. italy's new hardline policy is driven by money tales told beany a rock star of the italian right seen here in libya pushing for asylum identification centers to be set up in north africa not europe his slogan stop the invasion local council and salvage any support of fabio counter or took me to parts of catan yeah he says overrun by migrants. that is you know. if you need to if you would and he is now the biggest refugee camp in europe many times we have taken the
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issue to europe but it's taken south vignette to put a stop to it are close to being invaded and the impact of illegal immigration is particularly evident in neighborhoods like this one back at the camp a message from one refugee that this anti migrant rhetoric is dangerous because. you can't group of migrants together some of us fled persecution others have come just to earn money and then return to africa we don't have that choice we came here because we were being persecuted we came to europe because the rule of law is respected in africa it isn't that with these new policies italy risks accusations that it is also forgetting the rule of law and its moral obligations to those in need charlie and to al jazeera to tell you. ok let's bring in our guests joining us here from geneva leonard doyle spokesman for the director of the international organization for migration from brussels
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julian to garner a senior analyst on e.u. migration and asylum policies at the open society european policy institute and in london claude maurice labor member of the european parliament for london and chair of the european parliamentary civil liberties justice and home affairs committee welcome to all leonard doyle in geneva why has it taken so long to get to this summit today and tomorrow given that the migrant crisis kicked off what three years ago and it will end there there are fundamental disagreement within you and we would surely be talking about those about and it goes down to the issue of free move but within europe and also there's a kind of exaggerated risk action of the number of migrants coming to europe. both in the political space and in the media landscape it's kind of double what. whereas it's a pretty pretty manageable situation and it should be done with a great rate humanity and dignity join in the gun in brussels migration is the number one is you no matter how you slice or dice slice and dice the statistics on
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this for european voters is that real or is it an illusion well i would argue that it's real for the people who believe it is unfortunately it's been whipped up by far right parties and populist parties in various european countries to become the number one priority is a meeting today in brussels and they're supposed to focus on a host of very important issues for the u.k. the trade war with america the next budget for the next seven years defense corporation and instead they'll be in the usual panic in crisis mode about migration this will be one of a series of and this crisis some some migration called marius in brussels this is partly as well i guess a burden sharing sharing the burden of unprecedented numbers of people who've got into europe or who are trying to get into europe that's the framework that they have to work around how do they do it. unprecedented during the so-called crisis
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and twenty four hundred fifteen we now have the lowest number of sea crossings of migrants of refugees since twenty thirteen the paradox is we have the fewest number crossing the mediterranean but the biggest political noise that is that the ultimate paradox here and it's a very real noise it's a noise coming from italy the first big country but this kind of populist anti immigrant government the split in germany and sort of visit grad countries just ramping up the ante migrant rhetoric and it is very real because it is causing an existential crisis for the e.u. but it is creating the wrong policies at the summit today we do want responsibility sharing we do want an external border we do want some fair policies like dublin but we seem to be getting is some externalization and i am really worried about leonard doyle in geneva when claude in london talks about policies like dublin he's referring basically to the way that some new e.u.
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member states got in effect an opt out because there's this. concept within being a member of the e.u. which is one for all all for one but those countries on the eastern edge of the shell of europe they managed to get a situation where they're not taking part in that is that fair. i think european solidarity is is a work in progress is a kind way of saying it and while it's interesting to hear the rhetoric and debates of certain leaders and countries across europe where they have minimal migration the end of the day is political rhetoric what we're kind of really interested in i think into focus possibly should be is on the those poor unfortunate episode who are trapped on in europe driving on the way to europe whether they are refugees into the asylum or whether they're economic migrants they are all being you know they're in tricked into this journey by smugglers and by social media and at the
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end of the day i think the book is kind of has to be on how do we save the lives of these people then we can argue about distribution and or the other things out later on in the gonna this seems to be a slightly weak but across the board a general consensus claude touched on this earlier about tightening europe's borders would that solve the askew. well there's a minimal consensus yes it's a magic between north and south europe and east and west on the fact that we should basically keep people out and also these plans that are trying to off shore camps know that austrade a style models for sign and processing and of course the problem with those ideas is that they're largely unfeasible maybe because no country is willing to host camps and i think the key issue that was dead and again that's being played out you never will is that you governments have failed to deliver on what they promise to do which is to have equal stands for influence across the bloc and they failed to do their for on reforming the dublin regulation which is which then it was veering
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to which is the rules for the way responsibilities allocated for a side of decisions and now they've got to commit state goes one is that michael is that he usual scapegoat and the other one is the e.u. itself and now they've reached i think the final point of how far they can bend that reality that particular expediency and i think tonight is going to be conscious time with a group of countries basically telling those governments who are still playing that caught that now is the time to move on and look for practical solutions coming to for the next sixty seconds or so there is talk of holding census disembarkation census outside of europe north africa how do they work how do you fund them how do you police them and how do you not have them turning into the children in cages situation that we're seeing right now in real time on the us mexico border. well maybe you should also ask your colleague from the i.o.m. about this because u.n.h.c.r.
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and i am have been talking to the council about this what i'm worried about is the talking about disembarkation centers they're making it very vague. at the moment and deliberately vague but let's hear what they really mean to demean disembarkation sensors involved in africa. you know libya where i was recently albania they've all said no to these kinds of centers no this is a long march potentially towards offshoring as you heard from. our other guest and we've seen that in australia and the e.u. by the way would not survive this kind of opprobrium the idea of diminishing human rights in this way i mean i was in libya recently and we could send set up disembarkation centers in libya really the government there what is left of the government there is already said no so you know the policies we do need dublin you
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know all the various files that we've worked really hard in the parliament to work through with the council need to be implemented but if we chase the far right. as is happening at the moment and create this kind of offshoring situation we're going to be in trouble because practically they don't work but in human rights terms and values terms it's a worry because you know what you do strengthen the coastguard i mean i saw that in the documents today maybe we could get a comment on this there are there is a coast guard in libya and the e.u. is partly funding that and that is a mess because you know there is no coherence the human rights issues are huge and i remind people again that the numbers coming are at a real low for for the last five six years and we should be getting together a policy there's a common policy on redistribution there are some bilateral agreements. one at the moment which you know i'm not against as long as we get a calmness in the political debate but if we chase the far right on this which is
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what's happening then i really worry for what is going to happen at the end of this summit for on that workable policies and maybe there i am calling can can comment on that as well linda told you want to come back on that because the e.u. does surely have a problem just interrupt you for a second come back on claude's point but also we've got the italian interior minister also saying he wants to set up centers in sudan chad and mount mali that one will simply never fly. yeah i mean i think you know mr rose makes some excellent points as usual but at the end of day i think this is question would be helped if we just accept for one minute that about ninety percent of those coming across bras are what we term economic migrants now i've been a big migrant i'm all in favor of economic minds but the reality is if you try to get into a country without papers and you're an economic migrant rather than deserving of international protection whether that's beyond asylum or not you really don't have
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a place there so i think we should just have a reality check there that the rather than most chasing the far right as has been described maybe it's a lack of cohesion and a lack of action of the process which has allowed the extremists a space in which to wreck havoc in our system but moving out of the issue an important issue of of this or shoring up detention centers shay is certainly not sorry if there really is i don't know it's a reality check if i could jump in is a reality check having no international law basis for even determining whether somebody is an asylum seeker or an economic migrant in an african country like libya how are you going to decide whether somebody is an economic migrant or an asylum seeker in a country like libya how are you going to do that for a reality check you think you know if you just if i could kind of just answer your question that you've previously asked rather than the one you second just ask but that too i mean i think the point is that one we are certainly in far. the
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demarkation to be within the european union. there are really detention center in libya and they are not pretty but the places have to go into one next tuesday with the director general in the movies and you have ever seen a leader go into the detention center in libya and they're not happy. he places and there is absolutely what we are seeking to avoid we're seeking to ensure that what ever is disembarkation socog set up that they have the full protection of the us some of the units there are and i went there as i've been here to make sure that they do not become as i have said and probably right there at the heart. i visited i visited detention centers in libya last month and i.o.m. where there but these detention centers were abominable and these detent.


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