tv The Stream 2018 Ep 139 Al Jazeera August 30, 2018 5:32pm-6:01pm +03
who've been displaced by fighting between separatists and the r.v. . in the south america argentina and its value of the peso has plunged to a record low after the president appealed to the international monetary fund to speed up a fifty billion dollar emergency bailout with inflation above thirty percent margin tines are heading for their second recession in three years the doll trumps hoping for a new trade deal with canada kind of his foreign minister says very intense negotiations are underway in washington not a revamped after deal tribes of threatened to impose more tariffs on canadian imports if it doesn't agree to join by friday. those are the headlines here on as there are we have more news in half an hour the news group with well santa maria the stream is next to stay with us. there is a very important force of information for many people around the world when all the cameras are gone i'm still here go into areas that nobody else is going to talk to
people that nobody else is talking to and bringing that story to the forefront. ok and i really could be here in the stream today i look back at one of the most iconic photos of the syrian refugee crisis well here the backstory to the image of the boy on the beach and look at the current state of syrian refugees. sunday will mark the date three years ago when the cody family mother iana and her two young sons and alan drowned in the mediterranean sea along with other syrian refugees they were attempting to travel from turkey to the greek island of cause and they were company by their father who was trying to move his family to
a place where they could have a better life now the comic photo of alan whose tiny body washed up on the shore of the turkish resort town became a rallying point for activists and governments offer assistance in the refugee crisis online the image of the lifeless boy was shared millions of times before the world knew his name people were using the hash tag drowned syrian boy and humanity washed ashore. today we're going to hear a very deeply personal take on the syrian refugee crisis joining us from izmit turkey we have alan cody's aren't teamer cody she has recently published a family memoir called the boy on the beach also joining us via skype is doctors a hare. co-founder and president of the humanitarian assistance organization made global he's in chicago and has just returned from jordan lebanon where he met with syrian refugees and leonard doyle spokesperson for the international organization for migration which is based in geneva switzerland it is good to have you here
everybody i want to start with a ted x. talk that team a day two years ago personalizing the refugee crisis have a look have a listen. the picture of kirby . is the gift to us to you and me. is the powerful image. to teach us. how we can use to their tragedy the seeds of hope now to invited. but to recognize it is going to happen. and one of us. can we open our door an arm and heart. can we find hope. i was so surprised when i was watching your ted talk and you put
a picture of your little nephew in that ted talk you just faced it head on that picture some didn't you knew and loved why did you do that. to be honest for me i mean look at a picture want. us to recognize it and we know he is my nephew and i never really i can't really look at it any more the only reason i actually show it in a picture to the world is just because it just to be a permanent reminder so we do not forget and we do not go silent. because i believe somehow that image was low powerful that god would the showing and the light. boy just to wake up the world and say enough. and enough so good i'm not going in the war of our five.
you mentioned wanting you to be a permanent reminder. i want to share a reflection from a journalists who read your book and would you describe the backstory to what should be a reminder this is a moving review from the who wrote this in the washington post after a photo of her nephew's drowned body went viral a syrian woman towels the family's story here's what he told the stream about what he took from your memoir screw you it's very nice to be able to thank you for this beautiful book it was very moving to be returned to the fall of two thousand and sixteen when the terrible photograph was published all over the world and i think i've just been wondering and i'm curious to ask where you think has happened to our global sense of empathy for that moment galvanized i'd be curious to hear why you
think and how you think we can return to that moment of not feeling of being more open hearted to work migrants and refugees think you're going to so much. so he mentions them to see their team what would you say to the idea that the empathy went away you know for us for somehow you know we have a tragedy in our life in the daily life we hit another a deal we leave. with that treasure the every single day and your neighbor in your community but somehow that people get too busy that they become numb that it's not my stride to be anymore the only think i feel that people we should this speak up. we should keep remind them about this is the true story of the human suffer and you know so people can open their hearts and take
action and help the others for me sharing my family's story it's not easy for me by speaking up and example i go around universities i chose to do this to share the saudi. just so i believe those young generation they are our voice they are our future and by hearing a tragic a story that the war of the heard about it and everybody spoke to forget and the fighting continue when i keep talking about it and agree but the will move and say you know i want to do something you change my my my life you know by sharing your story so the more they tell me please do in this and share it with the war the more i feel it should be a permanent reminder of how and that's why i'm in this is why i do this right how
do they react team of when you tell them how much detail do you tell them about what happened to you and your family. i am mostly when i go to talk first i have only similar stock. i highlight this story but after that of course there is a question i ask most people they will ask me in detail so why they will put this off and that danger the risk you journey why those thousand of people being willing that they're going to come to your world what's a different why they don't seem to these are good questions would you give us a couple of those aren't says you prepared for those on says i've course you tell them you know thousand of thousand of time i said to them you know i give them an example i will share with them the story. you know before even during the where the war i would sell them imagine yourself. you you on your family you
are in a safe country peaceful allister than you are in a war zone your own kids there are again soccer in the street it's a norm of kids and all of sudden there was a person a saw a side bomber blew himself out and those young schober in there witness the whole body will be in pieces that blood all over so can you imagine that. can you imagine the kids how they're going to go home how are they going to think that a memory for a long long time in their mind they can sleep they're traumatized so they go to school and example in a war zone that parents want to pray to god you know i hope they will come back home in peace. and they will witness their school friend got shot the neck head the front of their ice so when i shared
a story from neighbor from my own family to them and they were i think they said this is how it is i'm so saudi you know i am their son. so a small date sometime we share person of story from experience to the people who basically like for us you know live in far away from that reality and i always tell them from me been you know this is going to refugee camps been seen in the people how they live here in turkey i hear i hear the new. i say it changed my life it really changed my life because i was like everybody else watching then you feel sorry for the people who have a personal connection by the phone you know here in the struggle but there's not the same when you actually go in person and visit and be talk to this really
people to understand them and i have universities so than the actually. i had a talk in there in the states in. philadelphia from yeah some of the temple university actually and i have people who actually sent me a personal thank you for a change in their hearts to open their hearts that they were first kind of few no. you know why should we thank them we have lots of people in our country we need to deal with our own people i have a person thank you from them got them and they went to greece. do you actually go and see it themselves and when they come back again they send out a message. for the ad for whatever that day thank me to move them.
so all of us all of us have the power to talk to a people who will say you know you ought of for the middle east i'm your from you on muslim your christian we need to educate people no matter what we are people and when it comes to educating people i think that you of course are doing that as you speak the been monitoring what i see coming in reference up but i want to pivot here to this tweet from doctors ahead of you and on our panel today who wrote it yesterday saying everyone knows where he or she was when they saw the picture of your nephew for the first time so three years ago is when that picture surfaced today news looks like this is carrying tweeting in syrian refugees in lebanon are now at risk of forced returns despite ongoing battles attacks from militant insurgencies cases of imprisonment torture and forced conscription this is
a header looking at the news as it is three years on where do we stand i know you just came back from lebanon from the refugee camps what's your take. first of all my convey my deep condolences to tina and the family or i learned go to the you now have a chance to talk in person but this is of course a child that touched the hearts of many syrians and many people throughout the war i remember my senator buckworth who called me one day after she saw the picture and she has a young child and she told me that after she saw that child the picture of ireland she had the courage child she started to crying and then she signed a letter asking president obama at the time to open the door to syrian refugees to be resettled in the united states and the letter for president obama to resettle two hundred thousand syrian refugees that travesty that now in two thousand eight hundred three years after the picture we had resettled in the united states on the
eighteen thousand syrian refugees much less than canada much less than of course germany which took the lead and opened the door to syrian refugees and sweden and other countries and it's shameful and the united states that we only resettled eighteen thousand iraqis after the muslim burn we only had a few syrians who were recent resettled. the other thing that you know there is a so molly british poet after she saw the pictures of aidan cordie about why people are putting their children on the border and she said that no one puts their children on the board unless the other is safer than the land and no one leaves home unless the home is the most of the of a shark and syria still are most of the shark and right now we're hearing about return of syrian refugees from lebanon and jordan russia it looks like it's the in the leadership initiative to push syrian refugees the world from jordan and lebanon
knowing that syria is still not safe still the mouth of the shark we're talking right now about it live where there are three million people and it led part of them are children and they're under threat of military assault. from the russian and syrian army and that will create huge humanitarian crisis let's also not forget that in this year in two thousand and eighteen we had more than one million syrian displaced people inside syria and the reason that they are displaced inside syria because all countries around syria have blocked all of their borders i met with some syrian refugees in lebanon and in jordan and i asked them what does it take for you to go back home and they told me that we need first of all to change the circumstances that we fled syria from we still have a very brutal regime that is torturing people to death you know just last week the syrian regime have confirmed killed or. killed so that more than a thousand people died in the prison because of that and they gave names actually
of these people who died from hamas from the area from wild army or from there are from aleppo so how can you expect refugees to return to syria with the threat of torture detention and so for sure saddle them images bringing military because i'm interested to hear how things have changed in the last three years later i'm looking at some headlines and sometimes the headlines can be deceiving so you can tell me is this where we are right now refugee drowning skyrocket across the mediterranean as italy's new far right government blocks rescue boats that's from the independent news three baby stead one hundred missing in latest shipwreck of libya and in the looking at some statistics for the global migrant deaths from beginning of january to august of this year and the most number of deaths are in the mediterranean at fifteen hundred more than fifteen hundred and those are the ones that we know about what's changed and at. i think what's undoubtedly changed
is that the public opinion in europe grown very cold toward the acceptance of refugees and indeed migrants economic migrants and we're seeing that in other ticks right across europe we're seeing the punishment that the chancellor of germany uncle americal is having to go through for bravery for huge leadership in inviting refugees to come and stay in the country right across to the right across the board the politics of turn volatile and they've turned to the extreme right in some cases so i think we're going to a very difficult patch for refugees and for migrants in europe no question about it and indeed as the other panelists one thousand surrounding countries as well have effectively put up the barriers so there's nobody leaving not many want to return as we speak. when you speak about we got this comment on youtube live this is a teacher who says i remember i was working in a group that helped refugees in greece and how much the story brought attention and
help to our group and just how quickly that empathy disappeared people for the media got bored so on that note of boredom we found this week just scrolling around r.r.c. this is from andrew and he wrote in europeans are no longer shocked by pictures of drowned telegrams this is americans are getting used to images of teenaged children were letting the fear mongering politicians undermine our basic humanity so andrew actually sent us a video comment picking up on that thread and here's what he told the stream. i think some sympathy for refugees and asylum seekers has diminished in recent years in europe this is mainly due to fear mongering and hate mongering by certain politicians who are trying to pretend this group of people is a huge threat for some reason to their country to their people to europe and try to win votes off the back of that we see this in places like italy where the interior
minister has been threatening to send people back to libya where we know there's a great risk of torture we've seen in hungary where the government is literally starving asylum seekers in its custody in order to appear tough we're the big tough powerful people totally taking advantage of these powerless people and that's supposed to make people sort of feel safe. it's vile that heard they want to talk about on. i think what's important to mention that refugees do not want to leave their country i mean i spoke with many refugees in jordan lebanon turkey iraq and they want to go back to syria but how can we create stability in syria safe circumstances that refugees can feel secure in syria syria by the way the stability of syria is very important for the united states national security is surrounded by allies refugee crisis in syria has created a global refugee crisis that you're talking about that created and i refuse you and
the immigrant sentiment the rise of hate groups islamophobia and also rise of terrorism and also we need to remember that. last generation of syrians millions of children in the refugee camps in all in jordan and lebanon are going to create a lot of instability in the future and the middle east so if we care about syria we have to prepare the circumstances in syria that will let these refugees go back home and these circumstances means political change political settlement and also having safety and dignity for the refugees right there will there is a law that in acted by the government in syria that confiscate the lands and the properties of the refugees who are left syria if they do not show up within thirty days this is low number ten so in order to make it easy for there if you go back to syria we need to make sure that with pressure the government that can influence this equation sites. tim i want to take our audience back to december
twenty eighth when your brother man attend up at me at port with his skates and rock that i have in the. and this is we watch in the news when the first plane arrives when our prime minister will come dystrophy she we were crying and we felt the mob indoors comedian people say they feel really comfortable in the. setting things that one is i feel the love just of you hugging your family that's coming across on the video the other thing was what happened to your family change policy change global policy and refugee policy for a while where is it now do you think are you still seeing those changes or have
everything kind of rolled back. let's listen. exactly when we see it you know a brain year i said if we don't do something and find a peaceful solution to the war in syria to the crisis of three where if the world leader cannot increase on the solution we're going to. see more worse and worse and we're going to see creates more refugee and then what so yes if you look back now back then you know canada like within the three months the twenty five thousand was so beautiful you know i do see this so if i was like if everybody would win this for a while and welcome them which they should and some today i always say every country should welcome them because they deserve to seek asylum but in the minute
the bigger picture with which the world's ignore his like you know they want to go home but there is no home to go to so why we can't you those i want to boyce why weekend urge the international committee can emit a community to urge and invest on you know more aid to actually send them back to their home. or like i have a person our family story here their home they want to go home hundred percent they have no problem not the from the regime not everybody but their home that's been bombed they need to fix it i have a three family told me the same story three of them they said we don't care you know we had enough from live then out there for our country aside refugee and when
people look in our house it's almost the sign in our forehead you are a refugee you not belong to here to measure it you know you want to as you're talking at length it is not in line at the seems to totally resonate with the what you will do in tune the stories that you know. well you would think is really important just as you're doing here you're distinguishing between resettlement people moving to a new country like canada united states as it was at least resettlement is always just going to be a small number of people maybe three percent and it's for the most vulnerable really and it takes a huge it's a huge cost and it's a huge political fallout sometimes what we really need to do is what we've just been hearing about is refugees need to be able to go home and that's the big intractable challenge right now for obvious reasons there are real difficulties in getting people back to reconstruct the country to whatever sort of settlement is going to be there whatever sort of resolution that's what has to be fixed as in so
many conflicts around the world it's the politics that are driving it and as long as the politics are bad it's going to be difficult but clearly that's where the and as you just heard refugees usually want to just stay close and go home as soon as they can make up at all what is why is it so hard to you actually urge our leader the world leader why is it so hard we can't just you know use our voices and tell them you know nothing's enough to me because they i think the one time that i'm on the board that is all to me that is like classic team that is a classic question we're right at the end of this program but that is what we all ask every time we see refugees all migrants in dire circumstances thank you so much for taking part in the programs ahead planet and a special team a title thank you so much for being with us on the stream today our conversations you news always online make and i will see that at a.j. straight.
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