tv Inside Story 2018 Ep 307 Al Jazeera November 3, 2018 8:32pm-9:01pm +03
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keeping his promise donald trump maria imposes economic and trade sanctions on iran despite global condemnation the measures are meant to impede tehran's ability to sell oil on the world markets because u.s. pressure on the regime end up hurting the iranian people the most this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm richelle carey at all the makings of a hollywood thriller the u.s. president teasing is fifty five million twitter followers about sanctions on iran but donald trump's top was not a joke and it's expected that there will be real life consequences for millions of
iranians strict economic and trade penalties come into effect on monday the white house says the aim is to force iran to abandon what it calls its destructive behavior in the middle east russia china and many european allies have strongly criticized the move there's plenty to discuss with our guests first though had a kahane has the latest from washington d.c. . it's probably fair to say u.s. foreign policy has never been announced like this but this is an actual tweet from the u.s. president meant to look like a movie poster warning that sanctions are coming and the president later addressed that on the south lawn sanctions are starting on iran. you know read his thank you the very beginning his top aides including treasury secretary steve minutia and talking tough as well at a conference call with reporters the treasury department will have more than seven hundred names to our list of blocked answer to this includes hundreds of targets previously granted sanction for leave under the j.c.
pos as well as more than three hundred new jack nations this is substantially more than we ever have previously done but they are giving waivers to eight countries allowing them to continue to remain with the promise they will reduce that amount over time the u.s. is breaking the international deal and the rest of the signatories say they want to stay in it proponents of the nuclear deal say this move will isolate the u.s. russia was abiding by it the chinese were abiding by it the europeans were abiding by it and most importantly the iranians were abiding by its now the united states that is in breach of that agreement and is now actually going so far as to punish countries that are abiding by a u.n. security council resolution you really can't get more pariah than the european union created what they hope will be a workaround to still do business in iran u.s. officials are brushing off its potential but are warning allies they could face
a actions as well right now talking tough while the world waits to see if it will be more than words petty calling al-jazeera washington. now to the panel joining us via skype from paris france while niccolo the former french ambassador to iran in tehran mohammed islamiyah political researcher and columnist in insane andrew scotland also via skype turlock i'm in the vice chairman for republicans overseas u.k. welcome to all of the m. a start with the first question to all of you francois first is the is this nuclear deal flawed or do nuclear deal still goes on no route. five and five gone trees. abided by. and of course iran old sleuth abided by video of course so
it's like a not memorable going on three legs you know it's a bit difficult to break it wolf but to know the deal goes on leno what is interesting yes but i guess what i'm asking though is there do you think that some of the criticisms of the deal particularly from the trumpet ministration do you think that some of them are legitimate. criticism you know the main defect of the deal in the eyes of those trump is that the deed was concluded by by barack obama and this is why if you do worse do concluded by the united states. trying to is trying to destroy i mean all the heritage left behind him by obama and of course. the nuclear deal with iran. the last time police.
in in external policy. put together by the. american administration and of course to destroy it is very to try to destroy it is very symbolic saw for donald trump now will it succeed this is another question but i'll leave the debate open and we will come back to that question in fact i am wareham and let me put the same question to you do you think that some of the criticisms of the ironic clarity of all are fair. i think that as i say international atomic agency and also the european union and also the. united nations security council all of these. said that iran was committed to the deal committed to its promises so the deal is going on and iran is committed to its promises so we are waiting for the trumpet
ministration to come back to the negotiating table all the partners of these two national deal are still around the negotiating table but the trouble is mr administration. left the negotiations and they're fifty zero so we are going to wait for them to discover what and the obama administration discovered before the sanctions will not help to make peace ok. i'm sure let me ask you do you think that the trumpet administration has actually articulated what they think is wrong with the deal besides as france was saying just that it was something that happened under the obama administration do you think that they have actually articulated what they don't like about the deal. yes they have multiple times multiple deployments rather ministration have some of the top disagreements the sunset clause that iran could start and reaching uranium in
about eight years in about ten years and all those ten to fifteen years and all the sanctions are lifted it will be impossible to sanction iran again if they try to break out and build a nuclear weapon this deal does not stop ballistic missile proliferation in iran this deal does not stop iran's financing of terror from the who these in yemen to hezbollah. to their actions of the assad regime so the trumpet ministration actually has laid out all of their concerns with the deal. when trump first came into office he gave our european partners i think it was was it eight months or twelve months he said we have this amount of time i want to see what we can do to fix the deal what can be made done you're didn't offer any alternatives nothing moved forward and like trump said he said twelve months we're going to leave the deal and if nothing changes nothing changes from stuck to his word so i think you have to trump. so a lot of those criticisms that you have that you have there is
a matter on and that donald trump does people at the same concerns about saudi arabia why the different policies right there's a lot of concerns about actors and what's going on in the region but these are two very very separate issues. part of the reason well first of all the only reason why the assad regime is still fighting is because of iranian support hezbollah and lebanon which iran is bankrolled iran bangalore and again that is going on because of saudi arabia. terror groups all across terror groups has a lot of running a century the drug and human trafficking trade across europe bankrolled by iran iranian money is much more detrimental to the region look i don't i was my question was well it doesn't exist it doesn't have to be there or that was what i'm asking at i'm not saying that that some of the criticisms that you have against iran are not things that many analysts agree with that i'm not saying that i'm simply saying
why the different policies why the either or is what i'm asking well look i think that the u.s. does we do need to evaluate especially what happened with jamal khashoggi and turkey those very deplorable action i think some of these things do need to be looked into like in the same gratz all across the region we have allies and enemies which. have committed terrible acts for instance like with jamal khashoggi with most recently with cutter being accused of using jamal ben omar for hacking americans and using diplomatic immunity to try to get out of it look these are all in the u.s. having a military base there i think these are all things the u.s. should reevaluate should look after i think at the end of the day iran is the leading state sponsor of terrorism i think cracking down on the iranian regime and cracking down on the various behavior is something that is very important something the iran deal overlooked and something it very easily mohammed could have done mohammad you are in tehran i certainly would like to respond to that.
you know it is crystal clear for everyone in the world that trump does not respect international agreements does not respect international terms and he is as a businessman he wants to be focused on trade with so it is in the huge investment by some of the family in syria they're around the president and his family so they don't want to ax to what saudis are doing in yemen and it is interesting for me that they have killed an american journalist an american citizen in consulate in the accounts waiting to hear indeed and nothing happened for them you know so. it is trump not respecting to international and commence not respecting to paris i commend nafta or something like this and the so i don't think
that they would be succeeded in their new. o.c. but new policy new decision three imposing sanctions on iran and people you know for us well let me let me ask you about that what about the credibility of the united states that you know the trump administration is ripped up this deal that took several countries a very long time to come to and also let's go back to that mean that he tweeted that said sanctions are coming do you do you think that that reflects a real. understanding the gravity of what this is. nissen. deferred dressing this point i would like to go a little back holds and concerning the criticism about the agreement it has been often said by trant administration that after the sunset closes of the agreement in range ten to fifteen years and even
a little less iran would be free to do. it want it would be free to to build. a nuclear arsenal this is not true because in fact the safeguards of the of the vienna agency you know which controls all. peaceful in principle peaceful activities in the nuclear field around the world i'm in the same regard will continue to apply on iran iran will have to to accept instead inspector iran will still be bound by its signature of the nonproliferation treaty to nuclear nonproliferation treaty and so iran is not free and this is this has to be quite clear even after the end of the agreement iran will not be free to do what it would like to do
if it wants to to build a bomb that will be again it's. let's say international law up lying to iran so in fact the main criticism one of the event britishism against this agreement will the fact that it is limited to the nuclear to the nuclear field but one has to consider that. the question was already very complex if the negotiator. is. to with. to hold on to a two thousand and fifteen tried to negotiate about everything of all the rule of iran in the region about its ballistic program there would have been no agreement so also the in fact the choice was made to limit the
negotiation to do nuclear field hoping that a good implementation of this agreement would open other new ok so let me know told . us laboring through into that because through what about that that perhaps it would it had been better to keep the current agreement and then try to build upon it because at the very least you would still have inspectors as opposed to ripping it up and trying to start over when the sides are just going to be that less trusting of each other. because the deal is flawed far beyond. the last panel spoke about inspections which inspections are great but under the current framework i believe it's just slightly over three weeks that the international atomic agency has to give notice before an inspection i mean that's ridiculous to give three weeks had notice before inspection and the point about destroying u.s. credibility by pulling out of the deal i mean frankly that's that's
a bit insulting when this entire deal was written around getting around written around getting around the u.s. senate in the u.s. to pass a treaty it has to go through the senate they used particular wording in this treating because they knew the u.s. senate would not support the iran deal these particular wording that only obama was needed to sign off the deal and because of that trump was able to walk away from the deal without senate i treated him to face the say ficta base specific the iran nuclear agreement review act of two thousand and fifteen actually allow congress to have some say so and this had they chose to but they didn't because i didn't have the votes to reject it. that's actually not true you're talking about the corporate card and i don't know i am which made which which made the threshold sixty votes it should be two thirds and it's because it was in a treaty senate democrats they allowed it yes they allowed it to go to a sixty eight rational vote but if the deal used the actual word treaty that and they are. eighty two thirds of the vote the deal is written specifically to get
around having to have congress verify the bill and that's why trump was able to pull out of it without without senate understood absolutely it's completely what within his purview to withdraw absolutely but i'm still asking the question the fact that it still is u.s. the u.s. word that was on the line and now that's been ripped out do you think that that makes it more difficult for people to trust the u.s. going forward is what i'm asking. well look i there e well can see that argument the us only of the oh but i think i think we've articulated very well why we're pulling out a deal we articulated our concerns very well and became very european counterparts and our ronnie and counterparts about a year's notice to try to come back and work on the deal fixed a deal it was just pushed around kicked down the road nothing happened and drunk stuck to his word he did he didn't rip up the bridge of the deal rightly came into office he did give it a year like he said to come back and fix things nothing happens look i think we're
going to have to start again with new goshi ations a new deal i think everyone wants to see a deal but at the same time. i personally know a lot of people under the impression that a bad deal is worse than no deal at all i want to talk about the politics of it and just sit tight mahomet's i do want to talk about the politics of it and iran in just a moment but i do want to put one more question to drew since you brought up the politics up in congress which is which is totally fair we don't know what's going to happen with the midterms and the u.s. on tuesday the dems make the democrats sorry i mean that is the slang there have the temper kratz may get a little bit of power how difficult do you think that this can make it going forward as as the trumpet astray should try some to go straight a new deal. right i think it's a very good and interesting point to bring up. yeah the iran deal is look the vast majority of republicans oppose it and the vast majority of democrats support it but at the same time. it's actually it's one of those things that there's
a lot of people that are crossed party on it there's quite a few prominent republicans. i guess now maybe they change your view a bit but at the time we're pro romulan there's a lot of prominent democrats like chuck schumer the democrat leader of the democrats senator menendez senator. senator cardin in maryland there are a lot of democrats who. who didn't actually support the deal they didn't support from pulling out but the iranian it's one of those interesting things in the u.s. where yeah the mostly is down party lines but really there are a lot of people to go across party so it's going to be very hard to tell how that changes it's going to see a lot of who's the leader what committee now in the senate very very true mohamed what does this mean for in part all iranian politics because the sanctions as we all know were really ends up hurting the average iranian who is just trying to feed their family because prices end up going up so what does this mean for internal politics and iraq. so.
first of all let me mention translates sanctions are coming you know there's was a joke today in i heard in. turn the people saying that instead of these kind of sentences that should say something codes from matt in the h.b.o.'s in game of trance so they have trance so people in iran. are waiting for days because because these sanctions would be put would put pressure on the ordinary people especially in terms of humanitarian aspects you know the access to the medicine and to many fields of house care would be really hard after. imposing to sanctions and trauma administration over say that they don't want to put sanctions on these kind of bills but to be honest they are going to threatening
old international transferring system not to work with iran so they into it there are putting sanctions on even the humanitarian aspects of the iranian they really life and disease and these kind of sanctions is side and killing so in terms of internal politics there was a debate in iran some say that negotiation and have some kind of compromise where the international system would help the iranian to a better life but now because of the trump because of the trauma in this ration that they are it is really hard to in iran to. continue to say that the people who work ok and francoise what does this mean for other countries that still want to deal with the ron particularly european countries a u.s. allies what does this mean for them because they have been very clear that that
they don't want to go back as they perceive go backwards. well of course. everything will be more difficult for your parent on trees for even for china even for russia. to maintain a kind of flux of at least current trade between iran and and themselves and they're trying to put together instruments to be able to to circumvent the use of the dollar which is again a great problem with the with call because using the don't. automatically open a case for playing the sanctions and. but will it work nobody knows exactly but no the point is that iran
itself is going to develop i mean to to to put again to use all the ways it has already used in the past to circumvent the sanctions. through more or less shady deals. you know changing the the flag which is. put on oil i mean they range will suddenly be transferred. to tanker and it will disappear the rain with it will be so does or money or saw i don't know what the house russian cetera and of course the population will suffer but. a little group of people will certainly iran or people who were introduced. to their leadership will certainly make money out of these shady deals and
remains the big question or in spite of the suffering of the people who will do the regime. will the regime crumble down or will it abide by all the demands of. american demands this is really dark for because the this the reasons regime is used to resist them into. this and also to its internal pressure and have the ok i want to get i were really tight on time but here i want to give you the last word what about what france why saying that iran has weathered this before what motivation do they have to come back to the table to think something will actually get done. you know look i hope something will get done and what about sanctions hurting the average person yeah i feel for that and we have you know americans have nothing against iranian people of anything we you know mutual respect with the iranian people the end goal is you
know the i.r.g.c. in the iranian military is so tied into so much business and look the distinction would be lifted immediately of if iran did come back to the table and in effect of a new deal was agreed on a longer term deal and that would relieve sanctions in the region it would open up iran look that's the best case scenario our goal isn't to punish the average iranian person and that will be the last war gentlemen thank you so much for the for the conversation we appreciate it thanks to all of our guests francoise and cologne mohamed as slamming enter liquor men at thank you for watching you can see the program again any time to scout our web site al-jazeera dot com for further discussion at our facebook page it's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. and side story can also find the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. and side story from they were shall carry on the entire tape by for now.
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