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if you all of us have to. talk to around enough. cattle that. pack they would not stay long live wrong. alone never threatened and most of us. are told it's about it's your stuff in us that are seconds if you have stamina said it and now they're going to shift it and how is it. my old horse that scrushy did this is his percentage that. there. are farmers a motel for the house or who said. my grandfather was born in the twenties so he's now ninety. one and we call me walter sort of. when i grill him about the soviet union it mystifies me that he doesn't feel bitter about the things it did to his family. he was only nine years old when the secret police
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came to their home but in eighty years the memory has not dampened. the moment just. wasn't for a moment that kind of got out of forget him. among the most elusive and we're not sure nuclear is timing and the loser. schönberg on that would have us kind of said how much is true he said when he said they're going to answer as you know american money and then i'm sure this thing that's reassuring to the cable from children i recently learned she'd lawless region where she went out only not she got over it all we not that i'm always down about wash and so on isn't it usually most or newsgroups use or the time such as i'm through just as a answer to your move. is or should i said that you listen i'm not. somebody who's here i'm very well known. who can't i'm sure i can't answer shit because that is it
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if you got my going through around town hall i'm going to. well i'm going to beat you two cents a week. now mr. cho just how was i to talk with. system must part of calling miss out on this i'll miss out on that really coming down. the road what i'm going to tell the man. such as her with when i'm not so. much your little girl replacement in this sally seditions you. i'm going to go into the muck and your reality kind of. you tell your friend i meant a chance to help us or she's in there and there are sure it's over and. she she had to go that means. also finest how detailed their memory off the past is it struck me that
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my dad was still upset with the way they had to live and my mom seems to have modified her views because the more time passes. the more i guess she realizes that lived in an illusion. i feel sad that they have to endure. the difficult times here. when. i would get scared if i if i had to bring out the children in good times oh for a change when your country has to be rebuilt again after two hundred years so folks ok patient first by the russian empire and then the soviet union.
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in one thousand eight hundred nine this was the parliament building and people gathered here in dish thousands to protest for weeks against the roof moscow. the georgian police was overseeing the protests but actually it was the russian special forces who cracked down on them on april ninth in the middle of the night and killed twenty people mostly women. they just chased them. down in l.a. waste and some people like in the stairwell somewhere hiding where just battered and killed. i was not even two years old
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when april nine events happened. my parents and my relatives they describe it. as. the biggest trusting committed by the soviet union in their lifetime. we still remember it and it still defines how we view the soviet union and now russia. exactly seven months later the berlin wall fell. this is the world remembers not our protesters who were killed and honestly and deliberately under the cover of darkness. please please please please this is my room i can please you to match don't is a photographer who covered to build up to the ninth of april my past is collecting in negatives and not only in files i mean digital but real negatives which was not
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present when the soviet army attacked but he took a picture in the days that followed that has become a symbol of our resistance to the soviet union it was shot from top you know what about the protesters did they realize what they were doing the protesters were from seventeen through twenty five mainly all youngsters but i mean there's a ninety percent there on this is only girls are because there were some kind of show they are part of this had been sort of sure it was a criminal act for people who were going to as they were seen to have a. result like this it was a. size of power. this woman was not. just one but as. you know never say just because she's a young but good intentions with the rule to the hill sometimes and you know this
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it happened doesn't moscow or as an apology for sending in special forces then nobody wanted to kill somebody you know this is a all died in stampede or twenty ladies died but due to the us speaks you no one has ever hit them but they were wounded but there were no killings but if you want to live now in the soviet union they want to have a good soviet union they don't know hearts to imagine soviet union as a place where a person would be happy oh my god don't like good people they're so happy i remember my with my own eyes your brain a bush it been a six hour we're really right but the countries that went towards western values developed better the countries that stuck to the ideology of russia and soviet union what's wrong with that i'm sure we have two hundred years under russia and we have will put the parents in the unhappiness oh my good said she your
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point of view please keep this point if you really are why do you ask me and not skills or why so what i am asking otherwise because it's a broke idea it was history of our country our beloved country georgia so if you want to expels these pages of history from your mind off your history it means you are doing very well wrong think you know because if you are expelling your past if you demolished your past you will never have a future. i felt angry because moscow had an opportunity and this protest peacefully. i feel very patriotic and i think that it was unfair that russia was there was making decisions for us and he doesn't recognize. that russia owes us an apology i think that russia owes an apology for sending in troops a crackdown on people who did nothing wrong nothing wrong.
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u.t. and my parents lived through turbulent times following b. and of soviet rule. georgia today is far from perfect but it has come a long way since one nine hundred eighty nine and it seems inconceivable that people could still miss such a repressed and repressive past. in theory this occupation ended thirty years ago. in practice the occupation continues. i've never been here
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before and somehow nobody ever mentions this building and every time i traveled outside the city i saw you then i always wonder what it is. we tried to shut our minds to the existence of the soviet mournin some buildings but the reality is they still dominated our lives as there were meant to. squat on the hillsides of our towns and cities as if it waiting the return of their soviet masters. to give you the earring impression that our world is this temporary one and it is the soviet one that use permanent. but most of all it's the block's row after row street after street perhaps it seems strange if you have never lived in one but it is these
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blocks that have left the d.p. scar on me. this block and quite elaborate. is an expert on soviet architecture he has publicly supported the preservation of these buildings. quite spacious yanks and i would think. a lot of the residents of your own needs corps and. who are going operated on the mater. it was installed already in the nineties when the u.s.s.r. collapsed so there was no want to run them out of their methods of building. we were on the bridge. i grew up
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in or one of the buildings that was built in the seventy's during the soviet union and i wrong that i'm dreaming about the time when this buildings will be demolished is it fair to say let's just say it raises this painful history. you know i don't think it's right and i don't think it's possible first off or buildings they are just buildings you know the room their buildings keep their memory of tragedy our monuments like concentration camps in germany are kept in order to be reminded you know about the history of government buildings and to them mourn humans they seem to inspire or to. it wants to just scare people like or what but what did they want to do you know of course one of the means to show the power of the state has
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always been architecture it was always there mean to show your own people. they are small they are all the oh and they should be afraid of the state to tell your people that we are great. in georgia our monolithic architecture is not the only permanent reminder of the soviet union . the man who ruled in moscow from one nine hundred twenty four to one nine hundred fifty three was not the russian but george just most famous son. joseph stalin in. gori east on his hometown. it still celebrates his birthday and at its heart it hosts george just off the shore style newseum. outside the museum his
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parents' home has been preserved so we can see his humble beginnings. when you enter you face styling and it makes you look up and admire him it's designed that way it makes you feel like he's great and he must be respected. while most child you are least able to negotiate it off to it so i'm going to stop you from. bookies. well as deciding to rest up a lone member going through the. ever saw and some to remember. alexander remark i don't miss iraq from the big. other least i don't promise i don't hate libs are that i bend it on brokaw and earlier. i thought maybe he was doomed to repeat crow bedroom with the mugger and she'll be mine smoked by the
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british when we are quiet because the children grab them by graham. with cigarettes to ban. them out but i can't see consequence a virtue so she merely where you want to ram morality of minds relating to shades about i suppose only an equestrian member gets a candidate mr sharon i don't need can be a bus train reference so very brotherhood i pack they discuss the factory girl not about this and not all the gear market will she but given what i want this i realise i used. to be cultured and oh i see how few minutes how it is so not silly reese paramatta stock car trouble she whom we're about graham partly had a story or. opportunity in the period when the pushy should be done its work or picking your own. or shareholders question their subcommittee or.
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even if its curator says it's not trying to do so the museum still seems to be glorifying starting. it's ninety nine percent about the greatness of stalin and somewhere hidden is the one percent about how cruel he was and how many people he killed. they make you circle around his death must the same we do funerals. they make you mourn him they make you take part in his death ritual. even this room like you come in and you feel that his presence like he if feel here is dead and we should be sorry for it. i cannot help but feel how
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deeply scarred we are by our past we live in a country dominated by soviet more newmans and i caused but we still try to ignore what really happened here unfortunately escaping your past is not that easy. a disease so stigmatized that those suffering are still shunned by society people is drunk on the penley from the libya from their wives and then they don't have a place in the war what can be done so that they are no longer outcasts in their own community al-jazeera meets the health workers who are challenging al qaeda attitudes and working tirelessly to combat leprosy in india lifelines ancient enemy. or. anna lucio lives in fear constantly looking over her shoulder she says she was threatened by armed men as they ransacked her home
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she knows who ordered the attack and why they want to develop on her community's land as you know we can't let them in to imitate us we need to continue they can kill me i'm afraid of being killed i need to defend my people who have been here since fifteen sixty nine without any help from the government and now they want to destroy the forest that is part of our land ownership in brazil is among the most concentrated and unequal in the world those who ordered the intimidation the murders are rarely brought to justice. as an indoor at the top stories on our desire turkey's president says he shared audio recordings related to the killing of. with saudi arabia the us france germany and the u.k. there's a tire powder one has met donald trump in paris where world leaders are gathering to mark one hundred years since the end of world war one. has more from the french
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capital. it was a crucial moment for president who was hoping to push the americans towards a tougher stance i guess sunday arabia i guess about sort of the merger of the saudi journalist. turkey wants the international community to keep up the press or i guess the saudis for the kingdom to come out and say who gave the order to kill so many. see has somehow dominated the agenda of some of the meetings specifically the meeting between presidents donald trump and him and well mark all this said that they wanted the saudis to give more details about what happened to the saudi journalist. the death toll from on fires in california has doubled to at least twenty three the blaze for some two hundred thousand people to leave their homes the northern part of the state's been hardest hit but fires have also destroyed homes in the south the coastal community of malibu has been evacuated at least
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twelve people have been killed in flash flooding caused by heavy rain across georgia and tourists are being forced to run for higher ground in petra the kingdom's ancient history. democratic republic of congo says the latest outbreak of ebola is the worst in its history the health ministry says that since august nearly two hundred people have died in two northeastern provinces the u.s. state of florida is again at the center of an election battle a recount has been ordered in the races for governor and senate republican candidates have a slight lead in both votes according to the initial. set of minis are taking place across the world to mark one hundred years since the end of world war one. history as prime minister tended to remember and stay service in canberra large crowds gathered at the war memorial to pay tribute to the fallen more than sixty
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thousand australians have died fighting in the war those are the headlines now it's back to al-jazeera correspondent. if you look down on to police state you will see a european capital. ancient city walls and orthodox churches mingling with the glass and steel structures of a modern state. mother georgia looking out over her people sword for any means a cup of wine for her friends. the reality is very different georgia had the misfortune to sit at the axis of empires and we
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were seldom strong enough to resist our powerful may burst. for the last two hundred years these invaders have come from the north first the russian empire and then the soviet one. behind these ones grandfather sod's the soviet terror operatives snow as the cheka began. a few georgians want to engage with this history and it is slowly being raised by indifference and decay. solve that is an organization that is trying to preserve these sites or at least document them before they disappear you know is a check oh yes it's a mango and from here or toss a prisoner stressed out and and so there was a interrogation and also there was
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a space and there was this fresh prawn completely dark and without them but on which was. face for say torture is the blood this time was nine twenty four in august entire so it uprising started and soviet authorities charts a protocol prison there says every ranch in all of georgia yes i'm going for. hours and her son was killed during say swan week twenty eight total guests stray of september into the. way. the we are now in the basement of say it's a. prison cell it was a place for say no must or char sometime killing off and would be like us who provides from the us on us yes it's just time and place on thought i think it's
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origin not on when the first time meant this room. was clean and on say wall you can find say inscriptions of say prison or we're sitting here in ninety twenties and ninety's. and do people actually know now what the story of this building generally our society absolute think doesn't. kind of thing that. i think we actively avoid dealing with our past. this has always been the mindset of my parents' generation. they were born into and soviet union which was against people asking questions and curiosity go to into trouble. even though the u.s.s.r.
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collapsed their mind set hasn't changed. in two thousand and four the ministry of the interior opened the checker and k.g.b. files to the public. but neither my parents nor my grandfather have come here to find out what happened to his grandfather in one nine hundred thirty seven. like so many georgians their anxiety is that someone they knew perhaps even a family member might have been involved. call him as a sign that it's like they were there. and we know how they hope. that it is always such a mission to those you don't need me to sort through. the documents are all in russian. is just for we don't know this. is somebody
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who has the engineering local it's not everyone has. done the same day. which. we just found a document so my father's great grandfather. was in the u. so hussein son was a sentence on the twenty six october nineteenth thirty seven. band he was executed on the twenty nine seventy seven is something people he was executed as number thirty one. and. he was executed but to me but my grandfather thought that he was actually taken to tbilisi for execution so they have no idea what happened but it doesn't say why he was killed what it did do
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to deserve death. well now we're going to have a bigger document that says like the has all the details about his case. did local new. york. he was accused of plotting. the song protest an action against the government but good cheer don't tie gun nuts in the. shooting. scot see your vote a little color should. be tryna be so. lucky . to live.
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in this year one thousand nine hundred thirty thousand cuts then thousand people were executed by the soviet interior ministry so there were very busy killing people and we still want to do is there really that's why they called this period great terror period of great terror. it has been eighteen years since my grandfather's grandfather was killed but i think that finding the truth still matters i feel it helps us to understand why and how we were controlled as a country. i live heavily the comment that was sort of a kind of i don't know. oh really and it was you know chancellor of the challenger . this. order to move. as. it really showed a double whammy at the top schumacher list but. from our generation of
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true mother on the tardy side is from the part of the audi. i don't talk. about i'm not oh so cool like you know it all people like you almost a chapter about survival well i'm told though that. out of. all the important you. know how to look for that matter you love this. but i live in a god that really don't want to miss. what it was the only thing you got was your arm all over the house. but a palm tree as it was a cold was the body of. a girl who then i showed her the horrors that ensued. time or evil.
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and there but oh. well. i mean those are. also. i feel it weight has been lifted for my family we have taken back our memory from the soviets but there are parts of the soviet legacy that i fear will never be within our control in august two thousand and eight i was traveling from tbilisi when all of a sudden carse came to a standstill. when we started to see the georgian military rushing in the same direction as on its own was like what could be happening it was so scary we turned on the radio and found out that war broke out on the border with russia the russian tanks were rolling from the south the said directly way region
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to tbilisi they were on the edge off invading the capital of georgia. the coasts unbelievable. russia claim to be supporting south a certain independence but coincide with georgia holding a vote on joining nato a clear challenge to russian power. this is one of the villages that is closest to. the divide between south so said georgia proper i feel that i have to be very cautious because i have heard many stories. of people being picked up by the russian military just because they go too close to the barbed wires. i just like of all the other georgians the thing. said tex part of our country so is
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a little strange. being kept out of your territory. south to cross into georgia but very few georgians beat the way at least. my. twin's of with. but i go with us about. it is a pretty good tommy love. so he says. he needs. the approval of his boss to let us through for security reasons the car is going to escort us to and from. where. the feeling that you get is so mixed off anger and fear that you're approaching a hostile place but it's actually your own country. there
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are blacks. i was only allowed a couple of minutes at the border and your presence here soon draws attention. to weeks after the war russia recognized south a certain independence. twenty percent of our land was occupied annexed by russia. barbed wire started appearing in villages that border their breakaway regions the villages split into the residents about how this house might be related if a person dies on the other side these residents have to spend weeks to get permits and go over there. so it makes people's lives very different.
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controlled by the soviet union or controlled by russia are for me indistinguishable . the order still come from moscow. in georgia we may have freed ourselves from soviet rule but we seem incapable of freeing ourselves from the soviet mindset. perhaps this is because the soviets infiltrated our georgian identity so completely. this memorial the chronicle of georgia just outside to be d.c. depicts heroic moments from our long history. emotionally as a georgian i am still caught topping the power of its imagery. but
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it is in one human sanctioned by the soviet state. it was built to make us believe we were free when we were not. sometimes you have to look elsewhere for answers to your own problems there is another country that was ruled from moscow and at the same time had to come to terms with its own troubled past. berlin was the capital of germany during the rule off one of the twentieth century's other murderous totalitarian movements the nats. of that germany's defeat in one thousand nine hundred five thirteen was split in half at the brandenburg
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gate. east germany was never officially a soviet state but it took its orders from moscow and brilliance bombed out streets where an ideal setting for stalin to express his architectural drawings. the soviets did not scar germany in quite the same way as they did my country but the nazis did. some of their buildings have been preserved but the symbols have been almost entirely erased. in east berlin the air ministry became the headquarters of the soviet military and then the east german state. this was because where we moved
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they were soon replaced with another form of iconography. for me as a former soviet subject this stems like swapping one tyranny for another. but this is not the prevailing view in germany. you. this soviet occupation is few differently here i would say that in germany we have that culture of respect so we are still using even buildings from the nazi time so from an intellectual point of view if you reach this point that you can divide. the building its construction and its design from the content and its political ideas you can find a new function for the building but you should somehow documents its history i want to those people who like feel angry at buildings do you think that young people
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here would agree with you. you know the young to the youngest generation. told them the wall is something which is an experience of the herons of the grandparents so it's quite far away that the should be aware that the socialist time was a time of repressions and today we might use those ridiculous from the nazi time off from the from the socialist time to educate the young generation to show them what kind of freedom they can live today. germany has shown that these painful memories of the past need to be acknowledged. the holocaust memorial sits in the heart of burning and leaves the visitor in no doubt as to what happened here. the generation responsible for the war
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have all but disappeared. germany still remembers the terrible price of under strain nationalism. i wonder if this is the lesson that can only be learned to defeat. soviet berlin's most symbolic structure was the wall built in one thousand sixty one in response to mass defections from east germany when the wall fell a section was preserved and artists from east and west where commissioned to painted that stadium asked to be of the muslim. and moscow based on. this was one of them. take our t.v. . because i still like the stylish look there's will really. be paula's new book on you if you could still. use the chair with you tonight
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probably let me post and put that by me think will follow the way you should abortion whether you made the first of the. many russians like irina moved to germany after one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. there are no clear figures but if you estimated dead over a million became germs. at two. o'clock in. the service to say you will not want to deal with the nuance of. my outlook and your chin had a shot then you would. not. be stupid she would be my first the dumbest of them to decide who would she would just go in there with this in the middle of the deal if it was then when the grain. call on you.
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will do so will do the spears was just over the knee of the gun with. a group we didn't use in the budget you know but just this is. the one who was it was interesting. especially with the first time in this part of the. you. knew. the song was. good enough attitude both to the wall and to the soviet union are for me but also for cohen answers. the soviet union never stopped trying to sell itself as a union of equals but it never was. berlin is home to many hundreds of thousands of russians. every year on the ninth of
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may they come to trump tower park in berlin to celebrate soviet victory day. after two thousand and three we stopped celebrating the month me and i'm very happy about it because it was not georgia swore it was a war that georgia second france a lot for but we would not be in this war if we were not occupied by the soviet union. overhearing their conversations and the things they're saying to their children is suggesting that for them this is more than liberating germans they are making it seem like it's russia stick to. this is for them an opportunity to express their imperialistic dreams. they're still dreaming about
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a time when russia was so powerful that it could come all the way to berlin. the most uncomfortable thing for me is to witness the bikers known as the ninth wolves. they stand for everything i think should be condemned the occupation in ukraine the annexation of crimea and the continued occupation of georgia and seeing them celebrating victory day was like they were promoting the imperial ideals of russia. i feel that the victorious atmosphere that was there was distasteful for me it's like dancing on the grave of an enemy you killed like. it's really not necessary and i'm really happy that the georgia flag is not here it's just the russian flag and soviet flags. how do we deal with the
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scars of our past we cannot erase them i accept that but i don't think you should celebrate them either. finding out about what really happened to my family has helped my grandpa my parents and me. but watching the russian triumphalism here today makes me realize how unlikely it is that my country will ever be truly free. and without that freedom is hard for me to see how our scarse can ever fade. a rite of passage preserved through the generations my cousin was laying down there
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until a screaming she was helpless the woman who after endorses goes through cycles of pain for that menai meets the women affected by s.g.m. and those reshaping perception this ng people will abandon this into it about to do is take al-jazeera correspondent the con. well i was back to snow again with some significance in may because extent prosper took my stance suddenly the northern part of the caspian and the clouds of science is rather less significant it might bring a little bit of snow if you're lucky into afghanistan which of course will melt and form right in the showers behind the rain showers in the middle of iran but this is
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a development might well be this is where winds come again further north the caucasus involved in rain turning to snow big showers seem likely around us by john and the northwest of iraq and here's the snow on central part of afghanistan but there's a green patch down here which is rather telling that's where the showers which most recently found of and are heading sites that looks like a fairly quiet picture with no more than a scattering of light he shouted in the band otherwise but if you go you do pick up something that could be more significant doesn't it much but any time you've got clout this far into what's normally a quiet part of the world you could get a decent damper as far as of bahrain possibly qatar eastern side of saudi maybe even further west to the south it does look quite i'll give you that as cause until you get almost the tropics of africa and then he goes the other side is quite again by quite i mean with the exception of madagascar there's not much happens not much short form from the sky in fact if you look up it's blue.
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the u.n. man in charge of middle east and north africa has a refugee crisis warning that the end is still not incites the war doesn't act like . some other countries of the world does not act like that and there ought to be a new order to make that contribution is above the shame or it with the i mean i was talks to al-jazeera. resort is one of nigeria's top tourist destinations but in the shadow of the mountains some nigerians continue an ancient tradition with child protection workers say condemns young girls to a life of slavery and sexual exploitation five year old miracle was buried for money just a few weeks ago she only says some missionaries who says she's proved many marriages happen i couldn't reach it is a missionary or rescues girls their money goes to buy outrightly i know i need one big truck to gil before she's born there what if it takes forty is in your
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mind dice the brother to get money away. on counter the cost u.s. sanctions on iran back as europe files to step into line we'll look at how difficult it is to resist the financial minds of the dollar plus china insists its economy is opening up the latest on the trade war with the us counting the cost on al-jazeera. presidents donald trump and. meet face to face for the first time since the murder of jamal. it comes as world leaders mark the centenary of the end of world war one i made
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a growing divide between the u.s. and its european allies. well come on peter you're watching al-jazeera live from our headquarters here in doha also coming up today we do have to remember we are. a dire warning for the people of california as one of the states worst wildfires leaves more than twenty dead hundreds missing and thousands displaced also. in newcastle australia i'm on the deck of a ship that's going to be sent to the ship wrecks a vessel sunk in the second world war there were more than three thousand at the bottom of the south pacific ocean alone and then leaking oil. the u.s. and french president say saudi arabia should quote shed more light on the murder of
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the saudi journalist. those comments follow revelations from the turkish president that ankara has shared audio recordings of her last moments with its allies and the authorities in riyadh turkey's president has previously said the operation was ordered in riyadh at the highest levels ratchet tie purdah one and donald trump have already met once over dinner last night ahead of the centenary commemorations marking the end of the first world war later today the u.s. says the shock to us us an internal matter but along with france has warned it should not be allowed to destabilize the broader middle east region these could be diverted we have shared the recordings with saudi arabia the americans the british the germans with everyone they've listened to the conversations on those recordings they know what's been said there's no point in distorting this fact among the fifteen suspects they know who the murderer is all murderers are and saudi arabia
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can bring all this to light by making those fifteen suspects speak. following the story from paris. it was a crucial moment for president who was hoping to push the americans towards a tougher stance against sandy arabiya i guess the backdrop of the murder of the saudi journalist. turkey wants the international community to keep up the presser against the saudis for the kingdom to come out and say who gave the order to kill so many. he has somehow dominated the gender of some of the meeting specifically the meeting between presidents donald trump and the man well mike rann they said that they wanted the saudis. to give more details about what happened to the saudi journalist but also they said they were concerned that the repercussions from the merger could further destabilize the region i think they were basically concerned that the fallout from this particular case could destabilize the royal family in
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the kings of not turkey's concern that this saudi or the u.s. and the e.u. could be using their leverage in a way or another to shield the royal family in saudi arabia because the e.u. and the u.s. have look pretty of what has and business deals with the oil rich kingdom but for to be there needs to be a tougher international stance against saudi arabia live now to istanbul and our correspondent andrew symonds so andrew there was a conversation last night's they'll probably be a conversation later today what does mr erdogan want to hear from donald trump. well present one has done everything within his capabilities to put on the table the stark situation as far as to is concerned that there was a murder in this building behind me not only that there was a coverup and indeed a cleanup and every stage of the process the saudis were trying to lie
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and used to see to convey a totally different image even right so this moment according to the turkish president there is still a situation whereby the saudis have not told the truth the saudis as one said before leaving for paris on saturday he said the saudis have not given any details of where the body may have been of course now one source is saying that the body is being dissolved but as far as the official situation from the presidency is concerned the body has not been found even though there have been graphic details on how the body has actually been dissected cut into pieces not what he wants to see no one wants to see the u.s. president donald trump come back to him with a firm plan of action against saudi arabia to pressurize it to bring justice for
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the killers again one has made it quite clear that the killers are on the list of people that saudi arabia has in front of it and apparently has these people under arrest and a pound he is accusing them some of them with murder but there is no distinction about which individuals are accused of what one wants that information and he wants to see the saudis engaged in justice and he has not reiterated his call calls from it sucks to see the brought here for justice but it would seem the turks are still intent on wanting to do that now the saudis are ruling that out as a complete impossibility as all this goes on in the. run up to what is a highly anticipated meeting it's not fully confirmed yet there is also more information coming to light about the tapes themselves and in case anyone was had any doubt about how graphic these audio recordings are a an investigative journalist for the sabbath newspaper has been telling mubasher
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that's the there's one section of the tape very early on in which house shoji says that he gets back put over his head and he immediately starts resisting and he says that it can i please i am choking i'm choking put this bag away from my head i'm scared of claustrophobia those are a pound lee according to that tape the last words of kushal ji in the tape and the words repeated by a journalist from a sub a newspaper which is the main source of the leaks that have been drip fed by government sources and did security sources all the way through this crisis peter thanks very much well leaders from seventy countries as we've been hearing are in the french capital for the one hundredth anniversary of the end of world war one for u.s. and french leaders it was a chance to bridge a growing transatlantic divide the leaders of sought to smooth over tensions which surface when donald trump criticized emanuel micron's proposal for
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a pan-european army classic into james bays joins us live from paris and james how did the paper over the cracks with this one. well i think they've managed to do some damage limitation on this particular issue of the french very much making it clear that a european military cooperation is something that would actually benefit nato and for now i think the two leaders have found a form of words that they can both agree with as they come back here to the lees a palace in just over an hour's time we're going to get about eighty leaders coming here for this moment of commemoration they'll be lots of discussions in the margins in all meetings like this but many of the thoughts of course will be about the events of one hundred years ago it's eighty m. right now in paris one hundred years ago the armistice attach even signed just after five o'clock in the morning but of course didn't come into force until eleven
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am and in that interview the meaning period to show the scale of the war two thousand seven hundred people were killed in that period before the armistice came into force what the french presidency are hoping is that all the thoughts on one hundred years ago could be leveraged to some future good and that's why often the commemoration they're having what's called the paris peace forum where they're getting world leaders together to talk about the problems of the world now it's worth telling you peter that most of the leaders will be attending that president trump will not be james thanks very much well there are other ceremonies taking place around the world to mark the end of world war one. australia's prime minister scott morrison earlier attended a remember in states this big crowds gathered at the war memorial in canberra to pay their respects to the fallen around six two thousand australians died in the
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trenches. the french president mr micron joined germany's chancellor angela merkel to sign a note of remembrance and a replica of the train carriage for an end to the conflict was agreed one hundred years ago the armistice came into effect at eleven am on the eleventh of november nineteen eighteen. joins us live from paris natasha just take us through what we can expect with the rest of the day. or more than eighty world leaders will be gathering here in central paris at the detail that you can probably see behind me preparations are underway for them donald trump will be among them the russian president vladimir putin as well as the german chancellor angela merkel it's a truly international memorial and that really reflects the global nature all of the first world war it lasted more than four years ravaged continents it tore families apart across the world so this will really be
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a very poignant opportunity for these world leaders to remember the many people who lost their lives forty million casualties half of those who killed military soldiers and civilians now the armistice as you heard james say earlier was came into effect at eleven o'clock local time here in paris that is when the fighting stopped when the guns fell silent and we can expect the french presence emmanuel makkal to make a speech here at the the focus for him for this commemoration is very much on reconciliation and not on national triumph natasha thanks very much continuing coverage through the coming hours here on al-jazeera. we move on thousands of central american migrants have arrived in the central mexican city of quetta tato for the longest and most dangerous leg of their trek up to the u.s. border about five thousand to hoping to cross into the united states in search of a better life but trump signed an order that would deny asylum to any migrants who enter the country illegally. firefighters in california say they're up against some
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of the toughest conditions they faced as wildfires continue across the state the death toll has now climbed to twenty three hundreds of thousands of people have been forced to leave their homes rob runnels has that story from malibu. at least two hundred thousand people in southern california have been evacuated as the wildfire there has doubled in size are far far as the. extreme. conditions that they say they've never seen him on. two thousand firefighters are battling the blaze many homes have been burnt to the ground in northern california a separate huge wildfire killed a number of people as they tried to flee the town of paradise the town itself was virtually incinerated dozens of people are missing in that area and authorities fear the death toll may.

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