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tv   Javier Solana  Al Jazeera  February 17, 2019 11:32am-12:00pm +03

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accusing the u.s. of sending crumbs whilst waging an economic war on venezuela saudi arabia's crown prince is due to arrive in pakistan his first visit to the country since he was appointed to the throne the government has stepped up security had a mother been some months arrival the crown prince's two day visit will see him holding talks with pakistani prime minister imran khan and signing a number of investments deals. u.s. vice president mike pence has called on the european union to pull out of the two thousand and fifteen iran nuclear deal during a security conference in munich chancellor angela merkel defended germany's decision to stand by the deal and called for a dialogue. now with all the headlines are back with more news after talk to alex is there. a team of chinese scientists embark on a daring deep sea mission searching for rare resources and new species.
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reveals china's underwater homes. zero. after having everybody here to it and you have a certain side that almost potential doesn't exist pretty much pretends it doesn't exist so unless we're going to have something that we all agree to we can't be put at the disadvantage of going by a treaty limiting what we do when somebody else doesn't go by that treaty. our american partners stated they will stop their participation in the treaty so we will also stop they stated that they will do research and development of arms so we will also do the same. president trump and president putin announcing their intention to withdraw in six months from the intermediate nuclear forces treaty banning short and medium range missiles capable of carrying conventional or nuclear war this is a first meeting with him russia and nato has been to my mind of their success the
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former secretary general of nato javier solana presided over the first joint meeting between russia and nato in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven many festing d. and i'm too cool war era he also served as foreign policy chief dealing with burning issues affecting european security and military matters at the time such as the war in kosovo in one thousand nine hundred nine do you think the president made the right decision no i don't think he made the right decision he is one of the most experienced european diplomats and he is concerned about the consequences of the tramp and putin and the mints. to tell you the truth today he talks to al jazeera. for years russia has violated the terms of the intermediate range nuclear forces free without remorse the united states will therefore suspend its obligations under the and have treaty effective february
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second. the decision by washington and moscow in early february to quit the treaty had been in the works for some time nevertheless the implications for the global balance of power can be very serious according to the official american version president trump made his decision after russia developed a class of missiles called eight that the americans say is banned by the agreement what did the russians do wrong because this is something that president obama had already brought up there was already he voiced his. discontent with i say it with moscow and then president trump took this bold step what did the russians actually do well. that. the russians have produce. a new.
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intermediate. we have to be very sure that. they don't. react. let me say with the heaviest reaction the nuclear reaction to the nuclear problem. it's playing with a lot of cart so i don't think we should play with ask. or nuclear matters to play with we don't have to play but we have to discuss debate talk until the very very end and and i think we should. have a machine holding. the russians to. be. seen
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another lies in phosphor reality and a license new machine ready to marry and to for just a memory and before taking this this is because we are kind of witnessing is tit for tat action reaction president trump makes one announcement then president vladimir putin says well in that case we're pulling out too and we're going to go ahead with our plans these it's for kids to play about other things but not to. blame yourself thank you and have treaty was signed by us president ronald reagan and soviet leader mikhail gorbachev in one thousand seven it was the result of high stakes diplomacy and military maneuvers threatening to reignite the cold war which was
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a ready winning at that point. it all started in one nine hundred seventy six when the soviet union placed s s twenty missiles on its territory capable of carrying nuclear warheads with a range of about five thousand kilometers unlike intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of reaching the united states yes as twenty missiles was designed to reach targets mainly in europe but at that time western europe had no similar weapons capable of reaching the soviet union and therefore was unable to restore military balance nobody more than back no you forced to have a good weapon this is so this is something that has functioned quintus use it for third countries like the e.u. in this case we are little really very diminished but like the german leader at the time chancellor helmut schmidt pleaded with the united states to counter the move
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initially hesitant the americans started negotiating with the soviets hoping to reach an agreement but with no progress the reagan administration moved to deploy american medium range missiles the pershing two to western europe i was. not everyone welcomed the move while the political leadership was in agreement some in berlin and london took two districts protesting the deployment of american missiles. this is the moment all the people with the sense to know that you clear weapons are made by human beings nuclear weapons must be dismantled by human beings that is the code of common sense. unable to keep up with the cost the arms race the soviet union back down inside the
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i.n.f. treaty with the us it has taken almost ten years the numbers alone demonstrate the value of this agreement on the soviet side over fifteen hundred deployed warheads will be removed and all ground launched intermediate range missiles including the s.s. twenty's will be destroyed on our side our entire complement of pershing two and ground launch cruise missiles with some four hundred deployed warheads will all be destroyed the agreement like all agreements between two parties required a basic trust between the two superpowers but it went only so far we have listened to the wisdom of in the russian maxim and i'm sure you're familiar with it. my smith to general secretary though my pronunciation may give you difficulty. the maxim is no provia i trust but verify feel.
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like there's this treaty with the boat that is. going to be to pick up i. and now is there any of the trust left it's a break and trust but it's also i'm supposing that that treated in the first place took a lot of hard work to british society to get it yes so. if it really breaks we didn't be realistic to think that these two parties and others would sit together in one room let me go again with nuclear. we have. a nuclear problem with iran and i put it very much in that. of the united states. when back. now we are
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trying to see how it would look at doing today. of nuclear material. in a positive manner by talking talking and talking and talking. and then he would. try. to date the secretary general of nato is e n stoltenberg he welcomed a move by president trump he said quote russia is in material breach of the i.n.f. treaty and must use the next six months to return to full and verifiable compliance or bear sole responsibility for its demise need to fully supports the u.s. suspension and notification of withdrawal from the treaty secretary-general mr stoltenberg seemed to have quite
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a welcoming statement about the move by the trumpet ministration to temporarily suspend the i.m.f. but i'm wondering in berlin paris in other european capitals. people must be worried and wondering what happened next is because i mean they need to work because he had that move to change the mind of rush. and. i am willing to be. different and i think that we have to do much more in order to try and to try to keep bush pushed all these. step in the wrong direction. or proliferation and wait which is what it is but this is the type of thing that in the. here we're living in a twenty first century should not happen the m.f.
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dispute comes in the middle of political tension between president trump and some european leaders first in november twenty eighth french president emmanuel mccall followed by german chancellor angela merkel said it was time for europe to create its own army implying american military support could no longer be taken for granted also faults with the bus trip to the athens of the mob at a military life i just want photo here i just didn't want us to ever visit the flag there are both of us then pick them to let then you have a good thought. i know star gets off and. here's me stuff. actually. live.
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that even. if. you. put it. does it does need to mimic. because of world because you don't turn and see men done gauntleted the disarmament give it up and a pillock least. when you design you could have given up a lot key on the. security one partition. soon this it but i've worked in for a army or been to sort of the secret and of. not much of a constraint of the good of the security because respect you know me won't do of well we know obviously from the vantage service on the panel so moderate as you need it the many of. you think the president mark or france has a point when he says the europeans should create their own army i think we have we we need to have the europeans more european cup abilities. i mean i don't
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look in troll much and i don't want to go into an army and european union marching . after the flag of the european union no i don't see that but i see very clearly that we have to be much more interoperable more integrated i would come abilities and we have the possibility of acting acting. in a strategic manner along with every before military right and right. enter into. security mots more interconnected which means for instance where. we. are not germany should not buy. weapons in. russia in the united states or in china mentally but we have to close. within the so i believe you've been union.
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utopian a bit so you said you believe in that for quite a while now yes in today's world with what we're seeing all these international agreements fragile and falling apart being suspended you think it's become a priority for europe for europe is a priority yes it's a priority to be able to and to possibility of defending for act and i would say the european union will never go to war as you say you would be as a country this is not the case but we have to defend ourselves and we have to be ready. to respond to. somebody. with the fed to us. but there's another side of the story. has until now effectively limited the ability of the u.s.
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to counter moves by other nations to develop and police short or medium rain. missiles around the world. when the agreement was signed for example china was still a developing nation with a small economy it had nuclear weapons but its conventional military was limited and it's not a party to the i.m.f. . today china is the largest economy in the world and its military might is growing it includes short and medium range missiles north korea and iran have also developed similar weapons leaving the n f would in theory free up the u.s. to counter these rising military powers more effectively another way to see it it could potentially ignite an arms race but trump says he wants a new and improved agreement maybe the i.m.f. should have been updated should have. i mean for for. for most of the country i think that the treaty
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treaty. i wouldn't say was forgotten but nobody. naive li maybe that. treaty would change because as he said it's a treaty that becomes makes the nuclear matter something much more dangerous because range in the medium range of nuclear. imagine if we continue on that path if you go to to use of nuclear weapons even for a shorter range i mean really that world and you can you can it would be for things that. he would be really dramatic food world and we thought the capacity to be a rich bowl in the contract which is the deterrence is really what the nuclear weapon process. so i think. i'm very very very sad that that
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looks so so bad that it's think it would have only dangerous as well then you do it in the in fact of having. playing with the distance. by these maybe the russians or them early maybe to get out of the treaty is a sign of a dramatic breaking up of. is to trust which i'm sorry i'm very formal on this worse order as we know it since we were aboard basic right to there things. that we have the possibility. even greece can something to move from here to there but then think we should touch first or you have to add countries obviously it's all but very importantly one side
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has not been that hearing to it we have but one side has it so less thick that it would here we should be the only one i hope that we're able to get everybody in a very big and beautiful room and do a new treaty that would be much better but certainly i would like to see that but you have to have everybody here to it and you have a certain side that almost pretends it doesn't exist pretty much pretends it doesn't exist so unless we're going to have something that we all agree to we can't be put at the disadvantage of going by a treaty limiting what we do when somebody else doesn't go by that treaty president trump said that he is open to a new meeting in his words in a big group with more participants presumably he is thinking among others about china but how realistic is that it must be very difficult to bring that kind
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of treaty about now look at the moment we have big. groups that have to is respected him provide him provided by those who can provide it will be the international community stability but nuclear climate change. which climate change. poverty is still. under issues that can. do we cannot make a mistake in the way and proclaim in to break that it's a very seduce big i think they do we have blame it. very risky decision i think that the negotiation team. is very driskill but they do the real the end and it was one of the pillars of the
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end of the cold war which is destruction a. risky risky risky thing to do because think about. the treaties what transfers are allowed to them never to have to end a nuclear level between japan and china orbitally in china and something of a nuclear nuclear plant and now we open another situation another condition whereby this type of may happen. so we enter into completely different line in the nuclear to make. the russians displaying their military power these weapons have been used by the russians in the war in syria leading to this question could be end of the i.n.f.
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treaty impacts regional conflicts around the world and not just the overall balance of power between the two superpowers. there is also of conflicts in this world where the russia and the u.s. are there each pulling the strings ukraine comes to mind syria comes to mind when. the syrian the green of the say yes they're not the same conflict but both sides have interests. when you reach a point where the diplomatic relations are so tense and the threat of breaking up treaties. would that have an impact on what is happening on the ground on the day nomic on of the fighting on the ground in ukraine or in any other place but no doubt a clever thing every decision that has a military backed get a trump conference morning morning tense in the countries which have created the
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problem. involving the third could third conflict a grain of and the problem of drain russia this clearly there in the european union are clear that. in. russia's clear out of the air the united states is clearly there but to say that they're going out they're going to remove these. troops from on the ground. and direct in direct contact with the sick so it's not the same sect or the same and in any case i think that we would reopen at the same time a question pertaining to nuclear of this treaty that we're talking about and. maybe if we open the sanctions may be applied in the initial period of time i think
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we enter into unknown territory that to gather with in the economy which is not going to speed is decreasing to speed of growth i mean all these things to and that are true in the twenty three in the twenty first century which objectivity. objectively could be a very. very gruesome dream center in which the. life expectancy is going to skyrocket do fantastic poverty's been dreamin is the only things which are good at taking place at the same time to put all these of risk for something we tease objectively south. well we have six months to see where this is all heading what i hope that this table. is good that we have this conversation because. we've had many more conversation lately it's.
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