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and also we're being told at last they should go in there are a whole lot of the same situation although all they're polite is one thing it is receding they're still serious over there it's very very difficult in the coming days to get a grip on know. how they are the survivors of cycle own one week after it struck they are still desperate and hungry at this center just outside deraa they were expecting food supplies they got a few packets of biscuits seems really bad that i don't know the flooding happened a week ago and this is the first help we have had just biscuits we are struggling to survive because everything was destroyed. water still holds claim to much of so for the province driving from deraa you can see the vast area that has become an inland sea homes destroyed others left isolated. aid and rescue operations are
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focusing on the hard hit communities with larger populations there are tens of thousands of others living in smaller more isolated pockets they are out of sight out of mind three families live in this small hut new tika seventy kilometers north of beera the cycling destroyed their huts and crops they now survive on bananas and maize maria's home was demolished when the psycho struck she thought she was going to die for all they knew that often anyone in it would when i saw the danger to first thing i did was to protect myself and my son i couldn't stop the water stripping away or clothes blankets environment and everything is gone we're suffering. water levels are dropping after two days of relatively good weather but the damage left behind is hampering aid efforts up until three days ago this whole area and this road was completely devastated by the psycho and covered in water it made passage impossible come along these roads it shows you how difficult
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delivering any kind of meaningful a by road will be the main focus is by air people being rescued by helicopter but that's only making a small fraction of a difference many of the dirt track roads in the countryside have been seriously affected aid is trickling in but the death count is rising and the risk of disease and illness is increasing by the day we're sitting on a ticking bomb as well as what are some additional major news concerns and cholera outbreak you know is there a reality you know that we will be the ready to face malaria is an american already thore in this country and the depreciation that ability is that people are facing anyway because of the socio economic situation of mozambique will be further exacerbated and tibet will be leaving you know to many more crises. for many people in this region life was tough before cyclon eat ice truck it's become even harder
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they will probably recover eventually but it could take a long long time. so this rescue mission is going on but there's a vast area still to cover there's a limited amount of rescuers and helicopters and aircraft involved in this or many people insist out some isolated out reaching places and they are really at a most vulnerable level so this situation is improving in some ways but still it's far from over our desire to tell you that life rest in barrow thank you tony. well it's an investigation that ensnared former close associates of donald trump and cast a shadow over his presidency now special counsel robert muller has submitted his report and to russia's role in the twenty sixteen u.s. election donna tranced denounced the whole thing as a witch hunt mike hanna has more from washington d.c. . it was in middle of to noon that recently appointed attorney general william barr received special counsel robert miller's long awaited report. national council
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robert muller has submitted his long awaited report no more indictments coming from the special counsel and you said i waited two years for this is terrible around four thirty five pm white house lawyers were notified and about half an hour after that this letter was delivered to the judiciary committees of house and senate and official notification from william barr that the report was in his hands the attorney general added that he'd be consulting with his deputy as well as special counsel miller to determine what other information from the report can be released to congress and the public. but democratic party leaders insist the complete trip or should be made available to congress it's imperative for mr barr to make the full report public and provide its underlying documentation and findings to congress. the million vista geisha has already led to criminal charges being laid
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against more than thirty individuals at least six of them within trumps in a circle at one stage or another the senior justice official who's being quoted as saying that the special counsel does not invision any further indictments but this does not mean an end to the matter there are a number of investigations into criminal activity around the two thousand and sixteen elections as well as into the question of whether president trump obstructed justice or suborned perjury in some cases these intersect the investigation and also at bonsa that they are congressional investigations counterintelligence operations and a number of cases being investigated by federal prosecutors in new york and other parts of the country robert mueller may have completed his report but a number of other investigations are just getting underway mike hanna al-jazeera
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washington the two mosques in christchurch attacked just over a week ago have reopened police in new zealand say they have finished their investigations inside the eleanore and linwood mosques and handed them back to the muslim community how does here is andrew thomas was invited inside the mosque the fast with an attacked. it has been eight days since the al nord mosque was attacked police have examined and photographed the scene and taken out the bodies builders have ripped out the carpets and repainted the walls at the gates people continued to pay their respects leaving flowers and messages of support forty one people were shot and killed here just over a week later the al not a mosque has now been handed back to a muslim community still coming to terms with the tragedy that happened in a mosque they should have been safe here and now that's three year old boy he would have just begun plain war. you know with me here noises and stuff we just knew was
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going on and don't think that it's a gunman on the loose or. just his target who said what what i was praying in the mosque when the gunman came in they switched his first time back i fell down people started falling on me. she just came in or they just started randomly shooting everyone i will since i was underneath the bodies that were going to get to me and then i stayed he went out and still in get up. he came back in and it was a silence because almost no one was saying anything and it was it was like crazy you know and then i heard shots coming in from the far end so the mosque there was also here's what it was like ok stay stopped stay calm and then suddenly you should come and shoot really close to me there was a really not a fear in my heart and qusay were phones were ringing and you find them in which you don't. like the feel of lot of where you is from the other person and i have to
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also feel the shots they were hitting the other boys in front of me to feel the pressure of the bullet i think it was there was a hole they were easily hit me then suddenly two or three minutes ok it was you know because i can hear is what's of the cause of the carpet and they would come and shoot in front of me again it was another shocker and they literally threw the state would do it at shots. every ten minutes in groups of fifteen most leaders let people in this now no physical sawing of the horrors of eight days ago no blood no obvious bullet holes and virtually no noise inside it looks and smells as though every wall has been freshly painted this covering it's over all the carpets and the people inside rather standing in quiet contemplation. all the price for what a mosque reopening is the first time he's felt at peace in days it's been an horrific week into a lot of the loss of the love for child five bodies as well i'm happy that i could get that chance but also i'm sad as well that i lost my serve the last reading of
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those words was very yes last i heard of a year or so. across the road in the park where this week's friday prayers were held a game of cricket the sound of battle bull is the sound of christ church slowly moving on under thomas al-jazeera cross church whether it's next but still ahead on al-jazeera. was anger aimed at iraq's president following a ferry disaster correspondent for updates. hello there we've got plenty of sunshine across europe at the moment most of us are
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saying some fine settled weather and enjoying some sunshine there is a little bit more in the way of cloud is making its way in from the northwest that's making things here a little bit windy and a little bit gray and wet as well and that system slipping its way south was as we head through saturday now as it works its way southwards it's being nibbled away by the area of high pressure so it's actually fizzling out so many of us here we see a good deal of crap cloud but not a great deal of rain as we head through the next day or so and that will continue southwards as we head through the day on sunday and still giving a little bit of gray weather there from paris towards the east largely fine and dry for us as well seventeen should be fine for some bucharest a bit over the towards the south and we've been seeing is a very heavy downpours over the northern parts of africa over the past couple of days particularly over the northern parts about jiri now system is just tracking a bit further towards the east now still giving some heavy rain for some of us in tunisia and across the north coast of libya as well it gradually fizzles out on sunday so more of us will be back to the sunshine including force in june is where our top temperature will be around nineteen degrees for the central belt of africa
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plenty of showers here some of the heaviest are in the southern parts are not just stretching up towards global med heavy showers here elsewhere there generally a little bit more scattered in nature. my prison my freedom my heart beats my life by negligence my occupation. are wrong and the hearts police coming.
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hello again i'm. reminded of the news this hour u.s. forces in syria liberated the last controlled territory in the country. reports. the report into russian interference on the twenty sixteen us election has been. the main conclusions could be made public as soon as this weekend. desperately trying to get emergency supplies to survivors of. the u.n. says an estimated one point seven million people have been affected across southern africa. rescue teams remain at the scene of a ferry disaster and more than iraq which killed at least one hundred people but angry iraqis are blaming the government and have demanded answers from the president as he went to the scene of the tragedy on friday our correspondent joins
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us now with the latest from baghdad natasha what's the mood like there now. we're actually in mosul you can see the banks of the tigris river behind me you can see i'll step aside for a second members of the red crescent who iraqi red crescent who have gathered as part of search efforts we have been speaking to people here in mosul and the level of anger and pain are palpable now according to iraqi civil defense there were two hundred eighty seven people on board that packed amusement park ferry that capsized on the tigris river here in mosul on thursday the latest figures we have are one hundred twenty people have died one hundred people are still missing when you take a look at the tigris river you see that swift current we've been speaking to a rescue worker excuse me search teams were talking about the very difficult conditions they're dealing with in attempting to excuse me reach these hold these
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bodies out of the water many are women and children and to add to this tragedy the iraqi red crescent tells us that two civilians who volunteered to help pull bodies out of the water have also died natasha i believe you will have some new information from iraqi civil defense tell us about that. well we've given you those updated numbers which are namely that there are one hundred missing people so it's not looking good it looks like this death toll is definitely going to increase we know that there were two hundred eighty seven people now that were on board that packed ferry and the reason again according to iraqi civil defense that that ferry capsized is because there were too many people on board and that is why people here are so angry they protested yesterday they swarmed a vehicle containing the president of iraq they were yelling thief they are upset
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about alleged corruption in the government and mismanagement and neglect now nine people including the owner of the amusement park and ferry operators have been arrested and charged with this management and neglect and now the iraqi president is calling for the sacking of the nineveh provincial governor mosul is the capital of the of a province and his deputies he's asking the parliament to vote again to get rid of them alleging that incompetence and neglect there is another day of protests expected here and as i said this you can feel the pain and anger one man approached us on the banks of the river he was showing us pictures of several children he said died in that ferry accident he said i'm not directly related to these children but these victims are all of our family members natasha going to him that speaking to us live from mosul thank you natasha well millions of people across pakistan
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celebration pakistan day the annual events moxa nine hundred forty resolution that led to the country's creation this year as i'm about is using a parade to show off its military strength at a time of increased tension with india malaysia's prime minister mahathir mohamad is the guest of honor correspondent joins us now from islamabad kimo. i believe that there's been obviously rising tensions between india and pakistan is this a chance for reconciliation. where live to look at the indian prime ministers. in which he also did greetings to the people of pakistan and said that he wanted to see a peace process for the region and one that was free from lie ins and terrorism the buggiest on the prime minister also appreciating from the indian prime minister saying that they were the comprehensive need for
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a dialogue on all outstanding issues including the issue of push me however today sprayed those so bugger stands opportunity to show all very discrepant read that includes crude misses ballistic misses back to tanks and as you mentioned the malaysian prime minister mahathir mohamad mohamad being the guest of honor also the defense minister of azerbaijan we had paratroopers from saudi arabia brunei bahrain. and syria long couple of dissipating in a freefall just above the parade venue and also a show of support from the countries at a time when paul gets done relations with india are at an order time you know our correspondent there speaking to us live from islamabad thank you. well algerians have been out on the hundreds of thousands for
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a fifth straight week calling not only for president. but the rest of the government too they rallied in the capital algiers and in cities and towns across the country. well you can find much more on our website. the address for that is out there dot com. hello i'm. with the headlines on al-jazeera u.s. backed forces in syria are claiming they have liberated the last eisel controlled territory in the country confirming earlier white house reports the reports into russian interference in the twenty sixteen us election has been completed there are reports the main conclusions could be made public as soon as this weekend. political rivals the democrats are demanding that the details of the report be
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released immediately now that special counsel muller has submitted his report to the attorney general it's imperative for mr bore to make the full report public and provide its underlying documentation for indians to congress attorney general or must not give the president trump his lawyers or his staff any sneak preview of special counsel most findings are evidence and the white house must not be allowed to interfere in decisions about what ports of those findings or evidence should be made public aid workers are desperately trying to get emergency supplies to survivors of site counted by the u.n. says an estimated one point seven million people have been affected across southern africa. rescue teams remain at the scene of a ferry disaster in northern iraq which killed at least one hundred people angry
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iraqis are blaming the government and demanded answers from the president as he went to the scene of the tragedy on friday. millions of people across pakistan are celebrating pakistan day the annual event marks the one nine hundred forty resolution that led to the country's creation this year is using the parade to show off its military strength at a time of increased tension with india malaysia's prime minister mahathir mohamad is the guest of honor the algerians have been out in the hundreds of thousands for a fifth straight week calling not only for president bush a figure to go but the rest of the government to they rallied in the capital algiers and in cities and towns across the country. well. there's plenty more about all of those stories on our website and you can find out
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much more about the news ahead that's al-jazeera dot com. the news continues here on al-jazeera after inside story. really three years after the u.k. voted to leave the european union. is yet to take for. britain three weeks divorced from its european maybe. the whole process still be revived stay with al-jazeera for the latest. donald trump says the u.s. should change its policy on syria is going heights which is occupied by israel that's being condemned around the world but israel's prime minister is celebrating so what's behind trump's move and what are the implications this is inside story.
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and welcome to the program i'm nick clegg the state says of the occupied golan heights has been the delicate issue for more than fifty is israel captured the area from syria in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven and next to it in a move never recognized internationally now once again donald trump tweet is threatening to overturn decades of to play missy he posted it's time for the united states to fully recognize israel sovereignty over the golan heights saying it is strategically important for israel and for regional stability while syria iran turkey and russia say the announcement is irresponsible recognizing israeli occupation would defy u.n. resolutions and malcolm major shift in u.s. policy israel's prime minister is praising trump's move as historic he did it again first to. recognize drusilla was israel's capital move the
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u.s. embassy then he pulled out of the disastrously wrong treaty and we impose sanctions but now he did something. of equal. historic importance to recognize israel's sovereignty over the golan heights and he did so at a time when iran is trying to use syria's a platform to attack and destroy israel and the message that president trump has given the world is that america stands by israel while its head now from stephanie decker our correspondent who has more from the occupied golan heights. what you're looking at now is the syrian golan heights where we are is these radio go to heights and of course this region is now firmly in the international spotlight following a tweet by u.s. president donald trump saying that the americans will be recognizing this area as legitimately israeli territory while there's been
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a deluge of international reaction saying they don't agree with that from the european union to the russians to the iranians to the french to turkey and even the syrians saying that they will do anything it takes to take it back now what many analysts will tell you is that this is playing very firmly into the hands of these really prime minister benjamin netanyahu ahead of hotly contested elections here in israel that will take place on april the night we are expecting an official announcement of this decision perhaps next week when benjamin netanyahu visits the united states but certainly it is seen as a major victory for him netanyahu has been lobbying for this for years but the fact that this timing is happening just two weeks ahead of these elections is seen as president donald trump and dorsett the israeli prime minister when it comes to a very hotly contested election what will be the repercussions practically when it comes to this decision will remain to be seen but certainly there are now three things that mention yahoo is playing at the fact that the u.s.
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embassy's been moved to jerusalem the fact that the americans pulled out of the iran nuclear deal and now the fact that the americans will be recognizing this area internationally recognized recognized as occupied land as sovereign israeli territory stephanie decker for inside story. we're going to try and dig into some of those repercussions let's bring in our guests joining us first of all from west jerusalem is mitchell barrett. global research and he was an adviser to former israeli president shimon peres from brussels we're joined by softly advocacy officer for. human rights center in the golan heights and joining us from. simon mabel no you see the electra in international studies at lancaster university welcome to you all so i puff a century of u.s. policy reversed in just one tweet first up let's just get your you know brief. reactions to this news and then we'll delve more deeply into the mire of questions
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that it presents and if we could start with you your based in the golan heights what do you say to this absolutely thank you for having me so as the only organization in the occupied golan dedicated to preserving human rights and protecting international law unequivocally rejects this policy shift the suggested policy shift because it blatantly violates international law to pull levels and it validates israel as systematic human rights abuses in the region that have been occurring since israel initially occupied the reason region ok what about you how do you how is this going to houses going down in this row. well this is an absolute consensus issue meaning there's not any israeli that is going to say this is wrong it's really not even a groundbreaking tweet everyone knows that the golan heights belongs to israel it was annexed by israel in one thousand nine hundred one all of the people there were
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given citizenship and the fact that in the beginning of your story you said syria iran russia and turkey condemned it because all those terror actors are active in syria and this protects the israeli people simon to differing views what's the dispassionate view if you like well look this is just the tweet up present as a great deal more that has to be done for it to be formally recognized in u.s. foreign policy i think the other thing is that while it doesn't necessarily change anything on the ground it's going to have serious repercussions in terms of how international politics is conducted because it is a essentially a flagrant breach of international law ok well before we launch into it let's give it some background now israel and syria have fought two wars over the golan heights the main conflict was in june one thousand nine hundred sixty seven when israel captured the area from syria and after defeating egypt and jordan six years later syria tried to regain control but was repelled in one thousand nine hundred four
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syria and israel signed an agreement to establish a un buffer zone but in nine hundred eighty one israel announced it was an exciting the region and that's not recognized internationally leaked documents have suggested that in two thousand and ten the israeli prime minister offered to withdraw from the golan heights during secret talks with syria benjamin netanyahu tonight this a negotiation stopped when the syrian civil war began in two thousand and eleven so i'm not going to come back to you first of all the thing is the golan heights was not a major issue wasn't really an issue at all out of the open at least it wasn't on the table but suddenly it's front and center and everybody's shouting about it and in that way it creates a problem. you know there's i think there are two issues at play here one is that it's deeply symbolic the the fact that it was an ex that was occupied and now the change of language is deeply symbolic but the second point is that it's strategically incredibly important and that gets at the real sort of changing security dynamics in the region we know that israel has a long had a real sense of
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a fear with regard to its neighborhood numerous foreign ministers have said that israel lives in a bad tough neighborhood and the golan has always been an area that that is seen to be a bit of a strategic weakness it's the sites that that israel controls its northern border through so it's deeply important for its strategic purposes but also the symbolism of its moving from the annexation of the occupation through to the sort of the nod to formal recognition and sovereign power is really quite significant in the air and the mitchell's point really that many in israel would simply say it just acknowledges reality that is relatively annexed the golan heights years ago. yes so israel and its the go on hates it on its own it didn't consult the native syrian population in the region whatsoever and mitchell stated that syrians in the golan
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were offered citizenship they were offered citizenship however the vast majority reject that citizenship only six point five percent of the syrian population in four of the five remaining native villages have actually sought out israeli citizenship and last year in an election the first local elections held in the region since occupation began voter turnout to support israeli authority in the region was between one and three percent between four of the five native villages the people have rejected this the people have always rejected this and it's just a blatant violation of international law and the right to self-determination mitchell bard you want to come back on that point. yeah i mean i i bet they probably are disappointed that they can't be voting for hafez assad again for not hafez and for us again you know because those are the elections they're used to participating in where they vote for us out and then five hundred thousand people are killed in a civil war and isis almost takes over i mean i think it's
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a little bit ludicrous some of this discussion in that the people that are there they are living in the as in israel those that want to participate can they were extended the right to do that and you know it's basically the high ground above israel in the north it's looks out on the. lake and it's not even up for discussion there's no there's no discussion here every israeli believes that it is part of israel it is strategically in part part of israel and maybe if we would have had the discussion before the arab spring or during the arab spring where it looked like the arab world was turning into this democratic oasis there could even be a discussion about it with various there thing is material there would not be terror by the actors wait a second the actors that are taking place in syria in syria are syria iran russia turkey it's basically a hot bed and a incubator for terrorism terror attacks against it will come to that in the second
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what i want to put you michel back is that the talks about the city for this to happen because it is important for the security of israel but now you have because of this announcement you have iran saying it brings it to the edge of a new crisis syria saying it's going to use all means to get it back does this sound like it's done much good for the security of the region it's what does it good luck good luck good luck to syria but what about how we've been able to do anything but what if they were to try this and it hasn't done in the security the region is going to make it worse yeah yeah you know the problem is there needs to be more international influence not against israel and next thing it or not against the u.s. recognizing the facts on the ground that it is part of israel the. national pressure should have been for the last decade where a half a million syrians are being killed where the russians are involved there where the iranians are involved where it's basically a hotbed for terror that's what people should be concerned and i'm sure that donald trump is not afraid that if that it's that people may say it's
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a violation of international law and the u.n. may condemn it as trump would say bring on the fight because it's not even it's not even a serious issue but most of the people understand for regional stability you know syria doesn't need to have more opportunities to launch terror attacks they need to have less air and saw theocracy want to come back yeah absolutely i want to make two very quick points first michel said israelis believe the golan is part of israel that doesn't really matter it's not israeli territory the israelis don't have a say and what happens in syrian territory whether or not it's occupied by israel that's the first point the second point is there has been a lot of talk about the security situation in the go on and how it threatens israel when in reality the former i.d.f. officials within the last week have said a lot of these concerns specifically the hezbollah the creation of hezbollah a terrorist cells on the golan heights is overstated a former commander of the north called it noise and ruckus about nothing
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there isn't a security threat to israel the security threat is donald trump provoking middle eastern countries to have reactions to this issue they're going to assign them a bomb is do you think it's donald trump's tweet is it the action of somebody who does not understand the sensitivities of the regional or somehow is it more calculated tactically. perhaps a bit of both to be honest i think we know that he's got his is grand plan for peace between israel and the palestinians and the arab world more broadly we know that he wants to unite the israelis and the gulf arab states against iran and and this is perhaps another step in that greater strategic vision but obviously it comes a cost and that cost is the people of the golan heights in i must just point out that over the past twenty years or so benjamin netanyahu has engaged in secret talks with the syrians and so have other israeli leaders and the issue of the golan
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heights has come up time and time again where it's been suggested and discussed about the goal i'm going back to syria so i think it tells you a great deal about about the israeli public's view of this yes of course there are many who view it as an integral part of the israeli state but there are others including mr netanyahu who at times have said sure we're willing to give this up in order to get a more peaceful neighborhood so i think that it's quite a contest that issue and i'm sure will get on to the concept of sovereignty later on but there's a whole host of issues that have been raised up just from this one tweet proclaiming that the golan is now israeli sovereign territory ok we are going to come into sovereignty in a minute i just want to talk about the business of these ready election that's coming up that will trump has perhaps given a leg up to netanyahu in the coming elections mitchell to what degree will this help netanyahu it's going to help ensure menace lays out one leg up its two leg up
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two legs up i mean this is this is tremendously helpful for netanyahu because it again in the israeli mind it cements the fact that he has an unbelievable excellent relationship with donald trump and with the u.s. administration and they're talking from the same talking points they're on the same they're on the same page and he brought up those as we said in the beginning of the program those three things moving the embassy to jerusalem which again was going to be the most disaster in the region as. because violence everything u.s. move the embassy it's worked out fine the second one was cancelling the agreement with the iranians was a biggest threat to israel what netanyahu has been talking about for the last decade trump now did it and now the golan heights so he's now a few weeks before the election able to show the israeli voters not only does he has a best relationship with the us president of any leader in the whole world but he's taking on or helping the likud agenda or the right of center and it's and our government agenda for things that no one ever dreamed possible certainly not in one
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ministration and certainly not with massive concessions in order to get those things that are the mood in israel be very good and i think we will see a movement back towards and that's and you know because a lot of people say in israel people are voting on geopolitics and on defense and security and this fits perfectly it right there and so is the how does it make you feel based on the get go and hunt and then the people who live there and how would they feel indeed about. their region being used as a pawn in election. you know it really is being used as as a political tool and these people's rights are being used as upon the thing that really isn't being covered in the media simon touched on it briefly and in the violations of international laws that israel systematically discriminates and impresses native syrians in the golan and they have for over fifty years this comes in and land them building rights this comes in hijacking agricultural industries in
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the region over thirty four illegal settlements over one hundred sixty seven illegal settlement businesses that manipulate syrians natural resources in the region this is all validated through this tweet and it's simply trying trying to show support for his friends and in doing so playing with the lives of about twenty seven thousand native syrians michel sleiman talk talk of sovereignty and that's something we must come on to because time is running on this in this show no one denies that the golden is syrian in name or that israel acquired it during the war so it is a dangerous precedent is it not to go against the founding principle of the un charter that the acquisition of territory by war is wholly inadmissible in this is what has happened here. well i know that there's a lot of people that are trying to say well here's what the real problem is if trump tweets out that israel belongs to the go on that the go on the losses of
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which has been happening since one thousand nine hundred eighty one according to israeli law according to what israelis think any even according to what the international community and many countries are you know accepting and then you're going to have other countries that have taken over areas russia and others that are going to now annex and use this as an example i don't think this is really a great argument i don't think it's really of concern to israelis israelis see this one thousand nine hundred eighty seven was a defensive war syria had the high ground it's been a you know dictators from dictators ships there that are their evil even to their own people they kill and slaughter their own people they are family so this is a protection for israel having the golan heights is that protection nobody is really concerned geopolitically what happens in other regions and with other places and it may be a you know example of well could happen partner should be concerned rather read
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what president or similar what happens geopolitically in other places in france and germany have already come out and said that they disagree with this that is that legal as simon mabel it is the danger that you know how can you accept the an exaggeration of the golan by israel and then refuse the annexation of crimea by russia. exactly i think what it does fundamentally is misreads the concept of sovereignty it's equating sovereignty with power and i think that's deeply problematic of course there is a degree of power and there is or thora to within the concept of sovereignty but it's so much more it's about recognition it's about what ptolemy it's about self-determination it's about citizens haven't the right to establish their own set of governance and their own elections and there's no doubt that the assad family the assad then is the has been disastrous and how the devastating impact for the people of syria that's never in doubt but what is in doubt what is in question is the equation of sovereignty with power the fact that israel has controlled the
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golan heights through force through military forces on x. than occupied the golan heights through force and that that has thus been equated with sovereignty that is deeply problematic and it's certainly sets a worrying precedent for any state to go and then conquer any territory and to hold it for a certain period of time what this does is says that over that time you can then have a precedent for it being recognized as your own sovereign territory there and you want to jump in the. yeah very quickly first first and foremost the talking point about sixty seven being a defensive war israel was helpless and needed to take the heights to ensure its protection is simply overstated his or ill acted with aggression first we can talk about build up of tension but israel acted first in that conflict
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so what simon is saying is correct this is aggressive action on behalf of israel to take territory of another land and then if you hold it long enough other countries what trump is saying is other countries will recognize it. another issue is that people often compare this to russia and crimea as a recent example there are a lot of similarities i want to draw one really stark difference and it's that we can argue about the validity of it but in crimea there was at least a referendum with the people where they had a say in what they what who would govern their territory the people in syria have never been consulted the people in occupied syrian golan have never been consulted in fact they've been pushed down israel has perpetuated this narrative that these are druze like the druze in galilee and they don't feel oppression they don't they aren't discriminated against they were offered israeli citizenship the reality is
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these are syrians they don't have israeli citizenship and they are being discriminated against are going to have never had a say going to jump on that is because where you had a colony was running out of time so i'm going to want to move on to the peace process quickly which currently of this obviously is moving it's all at the moment to trump has promised a deal of the century how how does all this fit into that. well it's got potentially worrying implication for in the sense the israel has is going to a complex relationship with the palestinian territories with the west bank it's it's got obviously exits power and so and or thora t. over it but if if we follow the logic of this argument from the golan heights then it could easily be argued that israel considers the palestinian territories sovereign israeli territory now that in itself would be devastating for any type of peace process but it would also raise serious questions for for the israeli body politic in terms of its maintaining its its nature as
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a jewish and democratic society a jewish and democratic state because if it was the do that to lay claim to sovereignty over the palestinian territories then there are serious issues for its very essence its x. the stench or existence if you will maintain that jewish and democratic character so i think there are serious concerns for the peace process and it's a very worrying time which will barack obama do you say to the. well i think he made some good points in that it does bring it may bring some serious questions about a jewish and democratic state about land and so forth but what i think i think this whole thing and i think that everything is trump a president of his own will be helpful to the peace process here for one very simple reason is because there has been a total frozen mentality for many many decades and everyone is hoping the u.s. is going to support them the palestinian side the arabs the state department and you know what has happened now there's a new sheriff in town and his name is donald trump and he doesn't care what
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happened before and he doesn't care what anyone thinks and he's going to shake things up because when you shake things up in the region and you make some very bold moves things change and that's what's happening now and i think well who knows if it'll che's real were they more likely to take a risk who next with a from the window neighborhood they're going to realize general we could have to leave that we're going to have to leave it there we run out of time do appreciate all your perspectives on this thanks very much indeed michel barack aaron softly and simon maybe and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's priest but dot com for slash a.j. inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j. inside story from a clock on the whole team here it's goodbye for now. on
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forces have raised their flag there has been intense fighting there over the past few weeks well our correspondent is in beirut and joins us now live jamaal there have been several declarations of victory in various forms before is the final battle now over. well as far as the hose is concerned based on our sources on the ground there the battle for that particular town is well and truly over in terms of discussing the wider fight against i saw which is going on for several years now as you mentioned there have been several declarations previously that this was the defeats of i saw it was the end of ice and i think it's important here maybe to differentiate between territorial defeats and defeats of i saw as an organization or their personnel and those who fights forwards in terms of the territory that's eisel controls and or used to control rather than remember there was large parts of syria and iraq it would appear that they no
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longer control any town or village or city for that matter and therefore in terms of the territorial ability to have control over areas that has been defeated comprehensively either by airstrikes from international forces by the us the xabi in iraq in this young militia or in syria or by so i can align groups or by these american backed syrian forces the question is where have all their fighters gone because not all of them have been killed or captured will they regroup will they set up other splinter organizations will they resort to attacking individually that we're not quite sure because one of the question marks surrounding geisel as opposed to other organizations or groups like an odd and so forth was the fact that it didn't have that kind of same structure to it since the ideology was a lot more basically anybody who wants to pick up a gun or explosives would join and therefore that's what many people are wondering what next what does this mean in terms of the fight against eisel generally
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speaking but also in terms of the wider context of security in syria and stability in the region well jim i want to ask you about that what does this just a status symbol of victory mean for the ongoing conflict in syria more broadly. so it was so we think about it broadly in speaking the syria context it is a very good question because. you know as bizarre as this seems we should remind people that what happened in syria what started off in syria was an uprising against the syrian regime and the revolution and the reason why i say we need to remind viewers is because since i still came on to this see in the narrative with regards to syria changed drastically from one of an uprising of people against the bush our regime to this need to fight terrorism and that's became essentially the headlines coming out of syria for the best part of the last three years so now that i suppose technically defeats it in terms of its surgeries the question will be will the international community now invest the same as it did in the fight against
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i sold now back into the syrian people in their struggle for freedom likelihood is that that probably won't take place will now the russians the turks and other countries who have been essentially divided on syria but unites of the mice or will they now go back to their own separate views of how serious should be run or shouldn't be run but will they manage to continue their negotiations and their cooperation as they had in their attempts to defeat i so that is what people will be waiting to find out al-jazeera. speaking to us from beirut thank you. well now iran cotton explains the rise and fall of. this is what the end of ice or self declared caliphate looks like those who fled isis last onto a village in north eastern syria say it's not the end of the state in the way i saw intended rather it's just the last place well i saw members offered any kind of
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coordinated resistance. and i said doesn't want any families to leave we have tried more than one time and we were unsuccessful until yesterday the situation under siege is bad for our children are hungry our ford had finished the shouting water and so many people that died. are hungry and desperate the state that i saw intended one that allowed them to generate revenue through taxation and oil sands and to be able to pass laws was defeated in july two thousand and seventeen according to the iraqi government. that's when i saw was pushed out of iraq's second largest city mosul. at the same time syrian democratic forces backed by coalition airstrikes mounted an operation against the group's last major stronghold the city of iraq and syria i saw last october the same year. now all that remains of the group is pockets of fighters confined to
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small areas in iraq and syria analysts say the decline for eisel began with its attempt to take a town on the syrian turkish border in september two thousand and fourteen that's kabbani over there the siege of qubani on the turkey syria border is considered to be a turning point in the battle against eisel turkey were very worried that they managed to get this close to the turkish border so they allowed both the kurdish peshmerga and free syrian army forces to use their territory to go into kabul in conjunction with the wipe e.g. they were able to force i saw fighters on the outskirts of the town for many it's considered the beginning of the end feisal caliphate in just a few short years eisel lost its territory and by the end of two thousand and seventeen stopped referring to the caliphate in two thousand and nineteen the group still represents a major threat or ever by using supporters outside of iraq and syria the group has turned to social media to get its message across that platforms like facebook and
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twitter have closed thousands of isolated accounts the group now uses secure instant messaging apps things like telegram really have taken center stage so if you're. self respecting jihadi you probably are on telegrams because that's where all groups whether it's isis or h.t.s. that's where they all share. the majority the vast majority of their propaganda that's where the key conversations are happening it surprised many that the u.s. president donald trump has now declared the end of the caliphate saying he simply playing to his domestic audience there's more concern about the pockets of ice or fighters there remain in iraq and syria and what they might be planning for the future iran can hold on the turkey syria for. marwan kablan is the director of policy analysis at the arab center for research and policy studies and he joins us now so marwan now that i saw allegedly has no territory left. what happens for the
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group what's likely to happen next in terms of fighting i think we are facing similar situation like the one we feel with thousand two thousand and nine because in fact if you look over the past fifteen years we have two different generations of jihadists in in iraq and syria the fear generation actually made that action to the patient of iraq and that was led actually by. his group he was killed in a car that was very much weakened after that after the series which was led by the time leader of the u.s. coalition in in iraq but. at that time they not he says used the local fighters from the tribal iraqi groups in the anbar province in order to the week of carita so second generation actually in marriage to after the syrian revolution and it was very much like a reaction to the policies of the iranians of the and maliki government in iraq of
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bashar assad and in syria so it was very much within the context of the security and conflict in in the region so no. of course we're out of it we're out of where we are like having the final days of of. the isis in syria and in iraq but as an ideology i think we're still have a lot to do in order to defeat the ice and i think the bottom for the for the hearts and minds is still very much there and i think unless we eliminate that causes the regions which have led to the emergence of ice and the fierce this probably want to go to see another version of feisal in the next in the next few years when as you say the ideology is still alive and well is there a concern about foreign fighters who perhaps left iraq going home and increasing the threat of us led tax elsewhere absolutely i believe they will be. the they will be in governments and almost. every every country that has fighters within within
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ice in the ranks and files that would perhaps include russia include european countries including australia countries all of them in be concerned about the return of those fighters because if you remember. the guns who have actually fought against the soviet union in the one nine hundred seventy s. and in the one nine hundred eighty s. after the end of the afghanistan war and the withdrawal of the soviet union in one thousand nine hundred ninety two they have actually turned back to their home countries and they started their sort of jihad against their own governments so probably we might be seeing. a wave of violence in the countries of these fighters should go back to the home countries probably want to still i mean we still have to wait and see what's going to have been next actually after the loss of. the parenting of this that or you well the fight against iceland unified so
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many of the groups in syria what happens now in terms of the ongoing conflict there does this shift to the dynamics of this fighting here absolutely i think this is a very important question because right now as the battle against article is approaching its end we're going to see more like competition over the territories which actually used to control the. territory is so now we are having the russians the iranians on the one hand trying actually to regain control of the syrian regime of course to regain control of these thirty's and actually waiting for the americans or the americans are going to decide because if the americans decide they would throw which is now unlikely. i think i think we are going to see a more like consolidation of the court this forces in that and the region under the protection of the united states but we have to actually is going on how to is going to view that also is another is another question so probably what i want to see more tension more competition over these that is the is the is not the part of
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syria. from the arab center of her reception policy studies thank you for joining us thank you very much. aid workers are desperately trying to.

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