tv Inside Story 2019 Ep 83 Al Jazeera March 24, 2019 8:32pm-9:00pm +03
it's also religious and that religious aspect is still there when you want to come in well i think it's very much like at the the jet blue for me because we have seen this many times before we have seen it for example after the end of the afghan war when when the arab afghanis they actually made it back home after the end of the afghan war and also where we have seen it once one more time when the united states invaded i'm going to stand when these you have this all saw the spirit of almost all over the world and then the world again and in iraq and after two thousand and three and now actually after i mean destroying that he laughed in syria i fear that many of those fighters actually would be would be making it back home so they are i mean on countries because don't forget that after all the bulk of isis fighters actually are foreigners and we have some from europe some from the former soviet republic some from arab countries almost everywhere we have at least eighty
nationalities within i salute and far less so i believe that some of them will make it back home and they are going to create problems for their own countries and now in my opinion where as i said has been in fact the third italian entity of ice that has been destroyed in syria now the hunt is going to be for those actually who have survived and they are going to strike back in my opinion because as i said earlier and this you deal with the root causes of this phenomenon we're not going to see that he end of it ok bloom what we know it was just referring there to the experience in iraq and what we learned from that experience because i was defeated or back in two thousand and seventeen in iraq but the group then evolved in kind of reinvented itself. well there's two things the fact that every time one of these jihadi groups metastasizes there's
a period of time where they recede and they are planning they are recruiting they're getting ready for the next iteration and so isis stems from the defeat of al qaeda in iraq in two thousand and five and two thousand and six but i think it's also important to add to what a modern one in this new ring said is part of isis is ideology of the apocalypse does predict that there is a period of time where they have to recede back into the desert that there's a period of time where a dog because destroyed and then they reemerge and so it's not completely inconsistent with the way in which isis has predicated its ideology of like the phoenix emerging from the ashes it will come back it's also very important that we know that many of the the young people who were born for brought to the caliphate the so-called. the cubs of the caliphate will be trained prepared brainwashed to into thinking that in the future there will be another iteration for
isis and they will be able to fight again right so yes exactly that you have files of children who have been indoctrinated from a young age myth so how do you take that on how do you try and deal radicalize them . i mean there is there's really good templates that we have from different countries that have introduced to radicalization programs for children the first thing to take into account is i personally don't believe the children are radical so much as that they have been brainwashed and they parrot what the adults around them have said but there is a fantastic program in pakistan where the pakistani taliban had kidnapped children and had brainwashed them to train them many of whom to be a suicide bombers and this program has been very successful it's called sub own which is dawn's first rays of light and what they do is they pair not just vocational training but also they teach them the proper form of islam which
repudiates violence and then they also have social workers and therapists to treat the children's post-traumatic stress disorder so you have to have a multi-pronged approach but as you can imagine this is a very detailed program it's a little bit expensive it's about thirty thousand dollars per child and so because it's a pakistani program funded by the pakistani government of pakistani children there really isn't the kind of confusion we will have with the children of isis because no one wants to take responsibility for these kids either the countries in which they're present now or from maybe the countries that their parents come from very complicated and there's not the political will to take these children and try to give them a better future ok so the children is one thing a very important thing you did what about those those dispersed those thousands tens of thousands of dispersed fight is just all over the place how do you how do
you keep the pressure up on them to to stop them acting in the way that they might . well what it what is happening in iraq is that the military is active still the whole time trying to find them and we do get reports the whole time off. sleeper cells being found even weapon depo being found to factory still it's still out there how do how do you get these people to change their mind is a very difficult problem in iraq also because the. the problems that were there when isis came in two thousand and fourteen they're still there the sectarian violence the sectarian. problems between the shiites and the sunni's have not gone away actually they have only grown because it's the sunni's that have main mostly suffered from what happened their cities are still in ruins there's not enough
money coming from back that to rebuild them so there's a lot of people and you see it more and more after more than a year of of no isis. people are. dissatisfied they're angry with their governments this week in mosul there was an accident with a ferry in which more than a hundred people died. this is not people going to the person who was was running the ferry no they go to the authorities they want the governor to go they say it's all because of the corruption so there is now finally talk that the governor might go that also the shiite militias that are still active in all of these sunni towns that they might have to go and that then perhaps there will be some kind of normality coming back but it takes time and it takes money and it takes will and the problem here i think is mainly is there enough political will to
solve this and to get iraq back on its feet right. oh and what you did exploring there is it makes it sound as if it's not just a difficult problem it's not an impossible absolutely it's really important what to the touch i just said i think we need to look at the ice not only as an ideology a part of feisal is an ideology but the other part is brought this. we need to look at it as a violent protest movement against certain and he let these on on the ground and i think that the military and security approach is not that enmity for i said we cannot actually eliminate the ice and by only using military force we have to have another approach that is i know that americans are not really good and that nation building but i think we have to think about it because i still was actually very much successful end of the routing people from within the sin need community in syria and iraq because what that it has said there was this community has been
excluded mana generalized has not been actually given any share in power and wealth has been dealt with in a very violent way by the government of nouri al maliki and the government of. the united states and nation building this battle to take down the caliphate has cost billions of dollars in it and one just wonders if if we saw the same amount of investment in to go going into mission building or rebuilding in this case that might just help do the trick absolutely but i don't think president trump is going for that because you know he's not very much into this nation nation building i think he has already expressed his his willingness actually to to withdraw from syria as soon as this this war ends and we still we still need to know of course what the american strategy is going to be in syria after the defeat of isis because there is no clear u.s. strategy i mean some time from say is that he wanted he wants to withdraw and then
he he decides to keep some troops on. on the ground but at the end of the day the americans are not really good and this nation building them we have seen in iraq actually down really good in the war and in blowing things up when it comes to nation building i think you have very poor performance who may have what role do you think the united states and the international community should play in this but i think marwan is absolutely right the president hasn't been consistent and he has withdrawn all the funds that were originally allocated to syria the ideal situation would be a kind of marshall plan for the middle east what you saw after world war two in that the united states helped rebuild europe but at the same time just to play devil's advocate we have to look at the billions of dollars that have been sent to afghanistan and have not had a positive impact and so nation building in the investment in nation building requires to have
a local partners on the ground who aren't going to be entirely corrupt and using this money to benefit themselves and enrich themselves rather than helping the people because in the end you can pour money into a country but if it's not going to be allocated properly the rank and file people in the street aren't going to ever see it and it really doesn't address some of the root causes that marwan pointed to as far as the united states is concerned i think it's a very challenging situation given the presidency by seas and the fact that we still haven't properly called what happened in new zealand last week a terrorist attack. these new realities on the ground that are a consequence of the caliphate being dismantled presents all sorts of difficulties and not least the various disparate groups that have been involved in eliminating eisel turkish groups kurdish groups shia militia and so forth what happens no what happens to them they were united in that but they're not united in their the goals . no there in the problem of course is that those malicious they have
been armed they're going to go back home in iraq officially part of the militias have gone into the military into the into the army but most boys have gone home and. they don't have work which is the next problem that iraq is facing and also you see that these shiite groups are now fighting between each other and you are are really seeing in iraq now the divide between those that are supporting or supported by iran and those that are not. there have been already offices closed of of one side so this is going to be a big conflict within the shiites and then of course back to to the fact that we have all these cities that are not built we also have big groups of people that
still are intense in camps not only the is east who have been badly hit we still haven't been found all of them we still have about a thousand is eighty boys and girls and women that are missing that had been kidnapped by isis. to two million people still. without houses because they are going about because it was just about to run a time ago about forty five seconds left mark what do you think this means this is this just melting of the elephant meat what does it mean for the war in syria not i think it doesn't mean that this is the end of the syrian conflict i believe that is going to be another round of conflict in syria and you are going to see that in the end international powers actually competing in even more we have seen recently a microphone view of the u.s. secretary of state in that region calling for to put more pressure on iran in syria and iraq probably want going to see more calm but. in between these different
layers to keep it on the way syesha and these are even as water so this is this is one feel is ended but we are going to see much more from the syrian conflict ok thanks very much of a thank you to all our guests in kabul and good in your ink and may have bloom we've run out of time do appreciate your perspective on this thanks very much and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and of course for further discussion just go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com for a.j. inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j. inside story or mean it clark or the whole team here it's goodbye for now.
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