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as we go through the report there might be things that donald trump does not like certainly what we had from bill barr as mike hanna was explaining was bill bonde essentially saying look the president is in the clear here his supporters are jumping on twitter i can watch my timeline as it fills up with people retreating donald trump but as a journalist there's a couple of things that i will want to look in the report and the most important thing is this when they say there was no collusion why did so many people who were attached to the trump campaign such as mike flynn full mana for donald trump himself when he put out a statement about his son's meeting with the russians if there was no collusion on his penis stablished that there wasn't so why did they lie why did they feel the need to lie and that's a question that i'll be looking for when we start plowing through the four hundred so pages even with the redactions as well but this is the bottom line of all of this to quote bill barr it's not so much that roger miller phone no collusion no obstruction when it comes to the american people no one is going to be moved by the
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events of today if you believe that donald trump was in league with the russians or did obstruct justice whatever bill barr says isn't going to change your mind and if you're a donald trump supporter and you accept what robert miller says and what the president has been saying since the very beginning and seems now to be vindicated by what's in this report then you will believe that the last two years has been a waste of time a waste of money and essentially a witch hunt to quote donald trump today this was presidential harassment and bill baka seem to support that by saying the president was trying to do is job he was perhaps guilty more of trying to defend himself than any sort of obstruction but certainly don't trump is about to head off tomorrow live in florida in a few hours time for the easter break here in the u.s. and you can expect that he'll be having a very nice east. break but it will be interesting when we get to read the details
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all of that report of the things that may say don't will trump and specifically who spoke to robert miller and said that the president said this the president did this i'm will that elicit any backlash from donald trump against current or former members of his white house stuff ok so assuming that there are parts of this report that will upset the president since he pivoted morning everybody to see it to not wanting it to be released that that certainly implies or something in there that he doesn't want people to see has the white house indicated how far they're willing to go to make sure that the public and congress never see an unredacted see the full report. no they haven't given any indication of where they will take that fight and sadly nothing from his past militant niece who is we had were given their own personal briefing before congress because donald trump was mentioned in the document so no indication from the white house about how far
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they're willing to go but certainly what we've got from republicans fight an indication from donald trump who said just after the report was when bill baka is initial letter on the report and said great news and then within a couple of days he was saying what ever we give to the radical left democrats as he's taken to call them they will never be happy and in the last few days he was saying why should we make this report public when all it proves is that it was a hoax given how much was spent on it and how long it took well there are two very good reasons why the american public might want to see it so that are going to be supporters in the house in the senate who say no no no we can't get redacted you can't issue anything with the redactions and there will be democrats who are saying the fool report unredacted must be made public but there are legal concerns this hasn't just been plucked out of the air by bill bought it as an as an excuse there
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are legal reasons why he can't be an unproductive action at the moment but the democrats may be able to go to court and say luke we need to see a completely unredacted version because we are considering impeachment hearings now before you say there's no precedent for that that's exactly what they did before what watergate got under way an impeachment hearing began for richard nixon so they could go to a judge and say please can we get a none redacted version will you clear that up for us because it will be important evidence as we consider an impeachment process and if the judge follows the stated law from way back in the watergate times he may well say yes and that could. leet to farther steps so far might see this is the bottom line this is not over it's really not. on all the way to twenty twenty trump will continue to use this as he has done in the last three or four weeks as
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a fundraising tool democrats will continue to talk about it although they really want to move away from that if they want to get their message across for twenty twenty and move away from the collusion argument but donald trump and republicans are not about to let them forget this so you think this is over now buckle up we've still got a long way to go right alan fischer live for us at the white house allan thank you let's get back to clyde wilcox here in the studio professor of government at georgetown university i want to pick up on a couple of things and that alan said and i think you made a good point that this generally doesn't sway people one way or another donald trump's approval and disapproval ratings have largely been at the same place you kind of hits the ceiling but having said that do you think particularly if this goes on a twenty twentieth's allen said do you think that this will resonate with any voters and change anybody's mind one way or another i don't think the fact that the
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report says if the in fact says that there's no collusion there's going to make people suddenly think he's a good president so i doubt that that would sway to one's position on that is his negatives have been and fifty five percent every single poll is positives of them between thirty and forty four every nothing changes that. well certainly find out because this probably will go on for twenty twenty really appreciate your insight today thank you thank you thank you let's recap what we have heard the u.s. attorney general william barr has announced his take on the censored version of the mahler report out of its public release he says the report confirms donald trump's campaign to doll cooperate with any russian efforts to interfere in the. thousand and sixteen presidential election also went on to conclude the trial did not obstruct justice. the report recounts ten episodes involving the president and discusses potential legal theories for connecting those activities to the elements
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of an obstruction offense after carefully reviewing the facts and legal theories outlined in the report and in consultation with the office of legal counsel and other department lawyers the deputy attorney general and i concluded that the evidence developed by the special counsel is not sufficient to establish that the president committed and obstruction of justice offense. and libya fighters loyal to the when recognized government have launched a new campaign against war khalifa haftar in the south of us forces are battling government troops for control of the capital tripoli a group aligned with the government has taken advantage of forces being tied up and north to capture one of its bases and southern libya i'm going to tell ahead as the latest from tripoli. military sources with. the government say that
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they have taken control of the military around seven hundred kilometers from the capital tripoli but he says that they're not staying inside the base could be because they're worried that have to. might try to target them this. hint military bases. forces control months ago since have to launch a military offensive to take control of verse. in the south of libya in general the government forces say that the are planning to take control the are prone to proceed and take control of more strategic locations controlled by have to the forces in the south of libya it seems that have to. lots of the challenges in several parts of libya as you know that has opened a front in tripoli two weeks ago and now the question now how can have to manage
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these. fronts in several parts of all of libya a special representative of russia's president has met sudan's military leaders are testers have condemned foreign interference as they continue to press for the immediate return of civilian rule following the overthrow of president omar al bashir high level delegation from saudi arabia and the united arab emirates flew to khartoum for talks on tuesday i reports that the sheriff and sudan's most notorious jail that is not calming the anger of the protesters there demanding proof of his arrest mohammed are reports in khartoum. sudan's former president bashir is reported to have been moved from house arrest to a maximum security prison. protesters on cartoons welcomed the news. but their demands called much further. we are so much happy to hear that the president has been moved to
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a prison where it's still not sure what we're going to want to see that we want the president to be in prison but not only him actually but the whole region what he would have been brought to the. phrase and it would be through on a deal now we have no very. information and people have been brought to the. brazenness wednesday the military council announced a series of measures including the at rest of it bashir has bought his best and along with a number of other high and i can officially say of the former regime is that but the council's spokesman hasn't confirmed that the whereabouts of the deposed president. arrests are underway of symbols of the eyes did regime in addition to others here are believed to be linked to corruption cases the most prominent of those who have been placed in custody until now i are the brothers of the former head of this corrupt regime abdullah and abouts bashir a council welcomed the ceasefire offer from one faction of the sudan people's
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liberation movement the group has been fighting at the shoes government into southern regions. meanwhile the two main bodies behind the protest so than professional association and the forces of the declaration of freedom and change say if submitted a paper for change including the creation of a civilian presidential council with a military representation to rule the country along with a civilian cabinet made of independent technocrats but protesters say they fear what may happen if the various parties fail to agree on a plan and you know the disagreements will mean failure and an opportunity for the military to stay in power how many are dizzy are caught on. the united nations human rights chief says a mass trial in bahrain failed to comply with international standards on fairness and miss international says tuesday's hearing was a mockery of justice one hundred thirty nine people were jailed for plotting to
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form a so-called bahraini hezbollah with links to iran's revolutionary guard all but one of them how their citizenship revoked the minority majority that is in bahrain has been revolting for years against the island sunni muslim monarchy or vienna shamdasani is a spokeswoman for the u.n. high commissioner for human rights she says it's difficult to conduct a mass trial fairly. very very it's very difficult to have full respect for the due process rights and for them to be calling quality of our air defense and the prosecution have equal resources. to present a case. we have heard that you know many of these people who they were represent and only some of them were not to get lawyers that their genes in. many of them are actually shot in absentia meaning that they were not present in the court when they did rationed they sort of really. what have you even sense of this is that this is
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a monster trial using a very broad and very counter-terrorism law that many men in his early years the government's not central view not only were legal convicted and sentenced to somewhere between three years and i think. most of them all and their nationality hooked and this is not this time this has happened in bahrain and that since two thousand and nine hundred eighty people have had the nationality of. gunmen in southwest pakistan have ambushed a bus then kidnapped and killed fourteen passengers alliance of elect separatist groups is claiming responsibility for the attack on the main road between crotch and the portico dar hyder has more from islamic law. according to sources the attack took place on a quarter of the highway known as the marker on gloucester lyrae that connects karachi red was the attack taking place at their motor section of that particular
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road but it was dropped the passenger door to get their identity papers were jake and it appeared that they were selective dog getting off but the narrow exposure did with the government or the security forces including personnel from the navy they were digging their way into a secondary location after the rich they were shot at close range their hands tied behind their back however two of those people were able to do a cave from that location and reported the incident by looters don has seen a spate of attacks also recently and the video where the minority shiite community wonder dog a day in which other people also will carry twenty in all and all short security forces conroy was there to act in a border town near the album on board the pakistani security forces have been blaming both of the nest on an iran for providing sanctuary to some of these groups
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who are operating from those sources and using their border crossing died in attacking inside buggiest on indeed another senior said die and their claim of responsibility taken by a blues group known as brought were general going to language means brother and they said dead most of those who were dog are dead good security forces personnel can his government is refusing to pay ransom to the kidnappers have two doctors from cuba were driven away after a suspected al shabab gunman kill their police cars in the city as men tara elders from neighboring somalia are helping to negotiate their release the doctor is a part of a group of one hundred cubans helping to improve kenya's health services near the somali border. but it has devastated large parts of iran affecting ten million people describe how water levels rose so quickly and they lost every day as a reports of. doing what they can to help. the river near this village
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had been rising all night people here say the floods came around sunrise they scrambled to higher ground with no time to save anything but themselves now they're scrambling for handouts. for those who've lost everything even a pair of shoes is precious. these women say younger stronger people take everything leaving nothing for the weak. generations of people have been living in their own tell for one hundred years and moving closer to the water even the oldest say they've never seen floods so bad the rains were a reminder the path of the river is older than anything else here a few weeks ago all this was underwater now half the houses will never be rebuilt and the good job is you have a shot we must move somewhere else in the past the river was not this big but now it has come to the village the government won't give permission to build houses anymore. around four hundred people live in this village and it took the river only a few hours to swallow up half of it no one here could tell us how long it might
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take to recover after the water level went down the villagers were able to come back to their homes and start the enormous task of cleaning up this mound of mud that was at one point actually inside this house and if you come into the house you can get a sense of how bad the situation actually was when the flooding was happening this brown line running across the wall almost to the ceiling that's how high the water level got inside this house. volunteers have come to help but some houses are too far gone others completely washed away. one woman a widow said it took years to make a home of her own she still owes half of what she. burrard to build a house in which she can no longer live. your then you're on to bring us things but we just want a house they bring water food and everything but we don't have a house so this things can not replace our home they gave me
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a tent pates not safe to live in a tent. all over the country many people are having similar experiences survivors living among the debris of the things they've lost so. it's cold at night and hot in the day it's really difficult to live in a tent. so for now people are getting help but say what they need most are new places to live so they can stop living by the road in tents overlooking broken homes and the river that broke that same bus robbi old zero zero untold village in lauriston province iran. look at the headlines on al-jazeera a censor copy of special counsel robert muller's report on alleged russian interference and the two thousand and sixteen u.s. election has been released u.s. attorney general william barr who was appointed by president told reporters he confirms trump's campaign to not cooperate with any russian efforts to interfere in
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the presidential election are also went on to conclude that trying to not obstruct justice. the report recounts ten episodes involving the president and discusses potential legal theories for connecting those activities to the elements of an obstruction offense after carefully reviewing the facts and legal theories outlined in the report and in consultation with the office of legal counsel and other department lawyers the deputy attorney general and i concluded that the evidence developed by the special counsel is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense so that sensor report is expected to be released within the half hour in libya fighters loyal to the un recognized government have launched a new campaign against or likely to have tar in the south of our forces are battling government troops for control of the capital tripoli a group aligned to the government and directed the attack while hoff's our forces
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are tied up in. a special representative of russia's president has met sudan's military rulers are testers have condemned foreign interference as they continue to press for the immediate return of civilian role following the overthrow of president omar al bashir a high level delegation from saudi arabia and united arab emirates flew to khartoum for talks on tuesday the news comes amid reports that al sadr president omar al bashir has been sent to the country's most notorious jail but protesters say they want. the united nations human rights chief says a mass trial in bahrain failed to comply with international standards on fairness amnesty international says tuesday's hearing was a mockery of justice and hundred thirty nine people were jailed for plotting to form a so-called bahraini has a law with links to iran's revolutionary guard all but one of them had their citizenship revoked so the headlines keep it here on al-jazeera for all of your day's news much more to the story as that next.
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more women are being locked up than ever before what's driving this alarming development what i want to do x. in my live blog behind by one zero zero. journalists in tanzania routinely face the threat of office rates of arrests and even violet's particularly when reporting of those in power femi oke. today will look at why freedom of expression is on life support in tanzania and ask how reporters and activists are battling to keep it alive so your thoughts through twitter and the you tube live chat. since becoming tanzania's president in late twenty fifteen johnno mug of food he
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has a nickname the while supporters say his government has moved swiftly against corruption and high spending critics say he has also pelz through constitutional rights and freedom of expression journalists must observe several recently passed laws and there are swift penalties on those who don't fall in line and one of the most recent cases authorities suspended the citizen newspaper from publishing material for seven days saying it had deliberately published false information on the value of the tanzanian shelling other newspapers and radio stations have been suspended for even longer periods accused of sedition and undermining national security there was happy notice across the wider region two weeks ago the east african court of justice was that one particular medium door breaches the treaty of the east african community of which tanzania is a member the government says is open to reviewing that door but as the government faces why spray criticism is it possible for journalists in tanzania to report
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freely for more we have talked a sub-saharan african representative of the committee to protect journalists she joins us from nairobi kenya maria. is director of change tanzania a social media movement she is in dar es salaam and from the tasmanian town of machine we have i can't. we haven't quite she's a development research political scientist hello everybody it's good to see you so we have an issue here when we're talking about freedom of press and journalism and that is will join us feel comfortable about coming on this show that we share with you one example of what we've been dealing with in the last few days i would have loved to be interviewed as you suggested but this is not practically possible now owing to the job issues and underline press freedom circumstances in the country at the moment and we just translate that we've had number of people who have been just to scat to come on the street to talk about this great and we actually heard from someone who's not a journalist but is has been looking at this issue for
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a while now who talks about why that might be to give us a tiny little history lesson here and she explains in a video common tournaments and a hangar she's the executive director at the legal and human rights center on the fact that this is been a long time coming how listen started we came to fifteen. to be delivered to the previous village. not to do. it alone was enough to so because it's not. going to draw people communicating. to the. end of the night to me this is a man who's in that is the distance to the interest of peace this man knows it well enough to illusions. and when to use it so that a lot of laws in terms of you know each be enough to treat this piece even.
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so maria she lists the acts that have led to what we're seeing today what a fact have those had on journalists in tanzania. i think primarily we can be looking at something of margaret chilling effect saw apart from some of the more prominent cases where we've seen a pointed up like for the publications been shut down but then there is another angle to that right now most of the editors are very worried of getting letters from the so-called spokesperson of the government and this is the person who by law is in charge of looking at the content of what has been published by newspapers and all sor can write a warning letter we've seen you know of the citizens been suspended because of writing about economic facts so this has become really something whereby the censor themselves and i think that is the most worrying part the example you that you even of a journalist or person working in the media being wary about it comes from
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a bet that they're really worried what if i you know what if i speak out and to morrow my publication gets shut down or get a warning letter i can say you know in tanzania right now for the last couple of years have you see a change in the way that people conduct themselves the way that they talk the way that they write the way that they block for instance. there is loss of change and. a lot of self-censorship even in social media that you know that i'm studying obscene many people being very sensitive when careful on actually treating or posting on facebook or least graham and this is because they are very wary of the legislation that and less. scared to be challenged so people are very sensitive in question was and this has also led to.
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what we want to express but they're scared for one maybe that they walk in the civil service or maybe worried about their job in even private sector and this is this is really the impact of this is down to organizing for change it becomes very difficult because of the. censorship and sort of sense that people found themselves . in the situation so we got this tweet just a few minutes ago and i just wanted to bring the same because people kind of can't believe what they're hearing but then others are saying we know this is to be true so this is a man sore and he's in that latter group he says journalists reporting issues critical to the government base constant threats beatings jail time and journalists have just disappeared so i want to share the story of one of those journalists who reportedly has just disappeared and i know the committee to protect journalists is actually trying to make some noise about it so the hash tag is where it is
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a story and this is a journalist who was looking into. some criminal activity when he went missing and it's now been over five hundred days we're talking. yes so thank you for bringing up the case of a story go on to this because we actually think it's one of the cases there really is symptomatic of what's going on in tanzania but also at the same time has an impostor on the press freedom and firemen in the country so what do i mean by this as you said a very glenda had been missing for over five hundred days yet we have not seen credible investigations into exactly what happened to him grace of course sends the message to journalists that there is a disregard for your safety that if something happens you will not necessarily. at the same time because of the controversial and sensitive nature of what she was to court seems extensive chilling message it has an impact on the larger media
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environment because journalists are left asking themselves if i write this critical story tomorrow if i ask you a question is the same thing going to happen to me is something similar going to happen to me so i was only going to pay for us to be p.j. is very much and clematis pick of the whole press freedom crisis that we've seen in tanzania talking have you had your own runnings as a authorities in tanzania would you my talking about the hot. i would not mind. i did have my own running a colleague of mine and i under the quintiles was our africa program called to make this had a run in with also ricci's last year in november. we'd go on a trip to meet members of the civil society and journalists talk about the press freedom situation in the country and before we left we've taken the opportunity to speak with the high commission in pretoria i called the embassy in nairobi the high
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commission in their o.b. to just ask us about the visa situations and we had an invite each a letter to do the same thing to go to tanzania we've been in tanzania for about for seven days when these individuals who didn't present themselves with claims that they were from immigration came to our hotel room and took us away to an unmarked location and started interrogating us about why we were in tanzania and one of the things they specifically asked us about was our interest in the case of as lori wonder and we were released after being held overnight and who were able to leave sounds and yet safely but for us that experience was sort of a wake up call to how bad things are truly become and also for us we see what's happened to us as we were able to leave but we have to ask ourselves what about the journalists what about the press freedom advocates that have to operate and walk in
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this environment on a day to day basis and really we should be speaking out about them and we're trying to speak out about them as loudly as we can't so this story is individual such as a story go on there and all the signs onion journalists that props to move in this kind of environment on a day to day basis i want to share i guess without an audience a little clip from a report that catherine story from al-jazeera dated back in december twenty eighth came from tanzania and have a listen to how she's you posting about the poll so take him back that the president tanzania appears to be having on the economy have a list. don mogul forty has been described as a populist he often says no ordinary people in tanzania want to hear and mostly take this fish market for example evening walk. here talk to the traders about their problems and give them money to build an office cooking area
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and trading. market trader a miriama chooses where the office is being built. i have been here for about two years but i would almost be president. i want to share some positive headlines from tanzania this one looks about. the positive aspects the president has had on the economy here he is laughing with the former head of the world bank looking very chummy that tanzania ghost workers face purge in store payroll cleanup and that's looking at you know clean up corruption in tanzania so there are some positive headlines coming out of tanzania which are how does this there's a contrast between the economy and how the economy is doing and then how freedom of speech is allowed to play out intensity can you explain that dichotomy. i think
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that first of all what has become clear because this was a you know a bit on the news that that was not enough information but what is coming out is that both properties headlines and not that of this is anymore one of the things that we've been engaged recently has been standing with the control of the auditor general the government has been giving out since last here about misappropriated the missing funds from the government we've seen quite a large scale that there are millions of dollars worth of local currency that have been misappropriated that have not been properly accounted for and these are these are issues that we can very boldly say have raised from many of us to business questions whether the economy's doing that well or whether we're really fighting corruption or whether it is more about not getting the news we used to investigative reporting which was very much in call rate in previous years were the ones that usually unveiled a lot of the corruption but this did not come amiss is certainly from the problem
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and but the problem and act on information that was reported in the media right now what we see for example with the citizens band is that they reported about the economy and very specifically about the currency and saying that the currency was suffering was the left was a band of seven days and on the same day that the citizen was banned we also so that the foreign exchange bureaus or shop were actually be closed down by the government suddenly so what we're seeing is that economy that good news those headlines are not necessarily right now the reality in fact for a lot of people looking at the auditor general's report and looking at the economy and the weight sense they may not necessarily agree but they're scared to state out and in fact one of the things i wanted to quickly jump in that i kind of talked about was that there's an additional oil that was bought and it was not raised on the hang that you just called online content regulation and this very specifically has targeted online media houses and brawl so they have to get permission even to
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have a you tube account. so i'm going to actually glad you brought up permission to have a you tube now because we got a few comments i'm going to read them out there live and they are not agreeing with what our panelists are saying so have a look at one of these this is caroline who writes on you tube maria is one of the opposition if she was not free what should be able to talk now from tanzania the normal citizens aren't even talking about it as this does not affect their lives only the opposition another person writes and this is said about who says please ladies give respect to your country ten zinnias the only country any bad all we see is an example of development and great leadership stop being sellouts for westerners you can seize a few of those comments on a feed right there marie i'll give that to you since they mentioned sure what do you say to people who do not apply this view yes yes it's very simple it is it is it has become tradition and by the way we didn't start today to say that anybody
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who is criticizing the government is opposition in fact i think that if we would be all saw free you would see a lot more even from within the ruling party openly criticize the government but then there is a lot of fear the second thing is the fact that i speak out doesn't mean that a lot of other people are feeling just the street as i talked about is the chilling effect if the journalists don't feel free because one of the leaks got lost and they've decided to self the or this being some of the newspapers been shut down then that is a problem and i don't see anything wrong but let me bring up something else there has been a lot of retore coming out but it's sometimes quite threatening anybody who says anything that is critical critical of the government and that is where i think you find some of the people been very reluctant to come onto the shore to speak of the opinion and this is the kind of techniques that they use. do have paid for or using fake means that would come they would attack you sometimes the try to hack you so
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these are techniques that are happening and i think it's just up to the person how and how they deal with it some people just do not want that harassment. i can they have you seen this movie so i would want to go ahead i can enter yeah yeah i wanted to add of the economy issue first of all i think the coverage that you posted were actually all that said can't i'll just give one example that will show we will give an indication of of the whole problem for example recently i am with which is a very credible international economic institution. truck has did that our economy would go will grow at four percent is actually growing at four percent but there are fish out i totally can the official statement is that the car bomb is going at . between the range of seven i mean six point something to seven but can imagine there's not any newspaper that has actually reported or analyzed or actually said anything about the i am with report we actually got to know it absolute social
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media i think it was always an opposition a member of parliament who posted the report and people started talking about it all online only on twitter but there's not any newspaper that is covered in this is from a very credible very credible institution he just picks a lot about how media is very scared to actually import anything about the. about. the situation there really a situation of the economy that vision we have in america has mentioned that a lot about the age europe or the contra auditor general report that has shown there's a huge problem of. trance settler and we we've seen how the parliament led by the speaker and the who being party the way they are actually trying to dismiss actually they see again just. they just don't
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want they didn't exactly have and they're exactly other say right words so we. that there is a problem because why would you want economic issues not to be discussed in the media and in the newspaper if i think one of the of the main. things that newspapers are really scared to talk about is the economy they might talk about many other things but when it comes to quantum they're very very scared. contributor there was an exchange just today between their position leader and the spokesperson on the government when i was it a cup with the some of the newspapers covered his analysis of the report of the auditor general report we're going to receive the letter and of spokesperson said it's true so what i'm trying to point out is these are facts i mean these are not made up things these are facts are the admitted to it i have i think the fact that
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you know this is happening is a way of keeping control of what has been discussed but especially interestingly issues so maybe just just just saying is just just to add to what you're saying before i move on and maybe the reporters can't report on negative aspects of the economy because back in february here the citizen was talking about the tanzanian economy growing at six point six percent this year so positive stories may be getting fruit the ones that are more critical perhaps not talking about critical stories let me give you a little comment from a member of the opposition how he sees the landscape right now in tanzania have a listen i was shocked sixteen times for denouncing president the feeling he was coming to office as the country literally into a police state where you step back glance for criticizing the president and then just touches a shutdown. used pepper man and other journalists. beaten up where
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even to post a single a single message of what's up criticizing the government and over its plans is because i am really not a fence. so that is a member of one of the opposition parties in tanzania his name is too nice to i'm just thinking we're talking if you are looking at an environment where there's a chilling of journalism a chilling of free speech from your perspective how do you tackle that. one of the things that i've been a big proponent of and one of the things that we've been really calling for is from the diaries now if you look at what's happening in tanzania as you rightly pointed out at the beginning of this the beginning of this program it's next exactly news for the people in the region but it might be news for people beyond thought so what we've been asking ourselves as and that is face outside transit here but cover
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sounds and here is what are we able to do that comes on young journalists themselves and sometimes on the press we don't the press freedom advocates can do what can we do what can we say and this i think should extend even to the media communities the east african media community the african media community we all to be speaking out because our brothers and sisters are not able to speak in the environment within which that is so i think that is very important secondly it's also very important that focalize be shown such as our own and for everyone to simply listen to each other you had that's the message at the beginning of this program about how the journalists could not come onto the show but you were able to listen and to represent the voice of the struggle of this so how can we listen to the journalists how can we will present these journalists and and even as private
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citizens that are very many ways in which we can interact with the sense i need here and with the trans onions government to push for press freedom we can for instance talk to the representatives of the government in our own country we can continue to tell their stories through our networks through our social media and through any pluck from that we might have and this has been really the aim of the complaint that we started where we've been asking ways i'm sorry. i hear what you're saying but i it's interesting because i'm still seeing this kind of polarized debate and so on the one hand or people who agree with our panel is this is the tweet from. me who says what the government wants is for journalists to not criticize report anything that might paint the president in a bad light and the consequences including newspapers shutting down fines imprisonment disappearance and death threats we have no freedom of speech and our press is far from free but then we gotten several tweets that look like this this is from baracoa who says we need to stop cherry picking tanzania for hidden agendas
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second freedom of expression is relative and it's not a bottle of coca-cola which you can import freedom of expression should develop according to that particular country based on its history and culture and then they go on to call out the united states is really not being that free either so i see you smiling there. how do you move this forward when the debate is that polarized among people who say it's not that bad. i don't think it's that colorado is i think that the people that we're seeing in fact many of these accounts are coming from or a certain group as i pointed before but if you look at a more wider aspect especially for example recently we we had a company in whereby a petition was put forward by one of the change has been a movement members to ask the parliament to stop its resolution or to rethink its resolution of luck working with the control auditor general were able to get fifteen thousand signatures online and these are people ready to give the names and
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the signatures so what i'm trying to point out is most of the people do understand that what we're seeing right now is a quote in civic space but then there are always people who benefit from a given system and those people who do benefit are going to be there to defend it but if you look at it from a completely objective and actor point of view what you can see all these examples that we've been giving is very clear right would for example musicians be detained for giving out assault or why would a blogger be arrested i mean that there are so many cases but within a span of a couple of years we've never seen in the entire history of time the media such illegal detention and that is the scary part people get arrested and that legally between for more than twenty four hours which is even against the law maria we're talking i can say thank you for shining light on this issue in tanzania we really appreciate your time a conversation continues always online blake when i see you on twitter at eight
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the news the un's envoy for libya warns of a widening conflagration as fighting spreads from the capital to the south of the country and a nation in mourning as the former peruvian president alan garcia commits suicide to avoid arrest for his alleged involvement in a corruption scandal. and i'm leah harding here with all of your support including the most lucrative deal in n.f.l. history quarterback russell wilson signs a contract extension with the seattle seahawks with a record thirty five million dollars a year. so as we go to air a heavily edited version of special counsel rather report on russian interference in the twenty sixteen u.s. presidential election is being delivered to congress but already we have heard from the attorney general william barr a donald trump appointee who has responsibility for the investigation and he has held firm in his interpretation that there was no collusion speaking at the
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department of justice in washington said among other things that president trump's personal lawyer was allowed to read the sense that copy of models report earlier this week that the president did not invoke his executive privilege to keep more of the reports secret even though he had the right to eternal general also said he has no objection to robert mueller testifying before congress about the report and that in addition to today's edited version he's going to make a full version an uncensored copy available to both republican and democrat leaders on congressional committees we're going to talk a lot more about this but with start with some of what the attorney general had to say around ninety minutes ago. as you will see the special counsel's report states that his quote investigation did not establish that members of the trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the russian government in its election interference activities i am sure that all americans share my concern about the efforts of the
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russian government to interfere in our presidential election as the special counsel report makes clear the russian government sought to interfere in our election process but thanks to the special counsel's thorough investigation we now know that the russian operatives who perpetrated these schemes did not have the cooperation of president trump or the trump campaign or the knowing assistance of any other american for that matter that is something that all americans can and should be grateful to have confirmed the report recounts ten episodes involving the president and discusses potential legal theories for connecting those activities to the elements of an obstruction offense after carefully reviewing the facts and legal theories outlined in the report and in consultation with the office of legal counsel and other department lawyers the deputy attorney general and i concluded
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that the evidence developed by the special counsel is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense or have it stop at the white house his alan fish authorise and i think i saw you actually tweeting earlier saying that it's important to remember we don't have the report yet and it's on its way to congress yeah it's on its way to congress what we do have is what william boss says about the report to everything you listen so what did you learn from it anything you. well it's interesting that in all of what bill barr said he didn't mention the five six aides working with donald trump during the election campaign have actually been indicted a number have set of prison sentences a number a jew to spit a set of prison sentences and that was a direct result of what robert miller did. donald trump obviously briefed in
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advance of what was going to be in the report undoubtedly clear on what bill barr was going to say because adly this morning he was directing his twitter followers to fox news in one american news to be both considered right wing news channels to watch the bill barr report and then immediately afterwards he sent this tweet some people are saying it's game of thrones themed when it says no collusion no obstruction and of course he points to the fact that this will be bad news for the haters and the people he is calling the radical democratic left that is going to be a theme you'll hear all the way up to twenty twenty and then the white house put out or in tweet saying no obstruction no collusion it's a message that has been hammered for the last three weeks by donald trump and his allies and we know that his legal team headed by rudy giuliani the former mayor of new york. well they're putting together
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a rebuttal document which is interesting because if the report clears you and something you've been saying for the last three weeks why would you need to rebut that but they're going to do that it initially was one hundred fifty pages long they decide to start turning it down over the weekend and it's down to about thirty pages we're told and that will be released after congress gets their version of the report and we can start reading through it as many of my colleagues are primed to do as we speak at the moment there's also been a reaction from nancy pelosi she's of course the democratic speaker of the house along with chuck schumer who is the democratic leader in the senate they are saying that they want to see bill barr give evidence to their committees at some point in the near future they also want to talk to robert miller but nancy pelosi in the tweet was perhaps more forceful saying that bill barr was involved in a partisan effort to suspend the public view of the report so if we were thinking that this was going to draw a line under all of this if this was the end of the ride over whether or not donald
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trump did or did not collude did or did not obstruct it isn't going to go away and probably i think i'm right in saying this i don't think this is going to sui voters one way or the other i don't think at the end of the day with all the noise the bluster with all of that a pity ition with all the i'm going to that we're going to hear with all the cheating we're going to hear if you believe donald trump colluded with russia or obstructed justice you're probably still going to believe that and if you believe the opposite then donald trump is still your mind and will probably get your vote in twenty twenty ok that's alan fischer at the white house we're going to head a little further up the road to capitol hill here is mike hanna mike let's build on what allan was saying there the report being delivered right now i believe on disk so cd roms or something like that gives the congressional congress people a chance to go through it themselves and the people to go through it and sells then what. well what has happened is that a p.d.f.
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version of the censored report has been delivered the two groups of congress people here on the hill they'll be going through that to the general public will be able to access the report a little bit later on the department of justice's website but the mood here on the hill rather angry in terms of reaction to that news conference or rather speech given by the attorney general bill barr we heard my colleague adam fisher refer to a tweet by the speaker of the house nancy pelosi and perhaps she sums up the reaction of many here in congress she said a.g. barr confirmed the staggering partisan effort by the trump administration to spin the public view of the miller report complete with the acknowledgment that the trump team received a sneak preview now there has been a formal letter sent to special counsel robert miller to come before congress and
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to give his view of the report and to explain why he came to certain conclusions principal among them as bob pointed out that there is no evidence of collusion but here i must just bring up one very important point in william bars in his statement to the media he said and i quote that we now know that there is no collusion now that coming from the country's top floor official is absolutely staggering what he should be saying is that there is no proof of any collusion as the country's top law enforcement official it's something that the attorney general should be well aware of and just leads to the mounting criticism that he acted in that news conference more like a defense lawyer for donald trump then an impartial head of the department of justice come on thank you mike hanna on capitol hill where we have got us president
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obama trump actually speaking right now i believe it's a conference thank for wounded warrior of wounded servicemen and women. we've got people listening to it and we're going to keep an eye on what he has to say you know the nature of donald trump's speech is that they can go on for a long time and this is obviously for a separate event but we are keeping an eye on it and we'll hear what he has to say about the release of the edited version of the miller report in the meantime we'll talk to steve clements editor at large at the hill joining us from washington d.c. going to get a little philosophical with you here stephen say that the more we learn the layers we know or at least we don't actually know or do you know what i'm just going to hold on save i'm just being told on a trump speaking about the report now can we go to that press again. and thank you with us on stage today are the wounded warriors from the air force the army the
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navy the coast good the national guard and the marine corps each of you is a living testament to the outstanding determination persistence and patriotism that made this the greatest nation ever to exist on the face of the earth and as you know we're spending apologies i think we just missed what he had to say but i'm short on the trunk will have plenty more to say on the situation steve clemons with us in washington state as i was saying the more we learn the less we know or at least we maybe don't actually know a lot more at this stage until someone from various people have a chance to go through it with the proverbial fine tooth comb. well look we're getting a gift that many of the comedy sketches that will be on saturday night live and throughout nighttime t.v. are soon going to get these ten episodes that muller looked at that attempted obstruction and begin to re-enact all of these this is going to provide filler for
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our political debate up until the next election and i find it fascinating because there is nothing we do as you just said we don't know a lot but both sides have a lot to rage about and because the attorney general and the deputy attorney general seemingly admitted to having a different view of legality than muller did in certain cases that's going to open up a debate that is deliberated in congress and deliberated in civil society but the other dimension of this is this is largely going on in a way as one of your previous commenters said in a way that the american public seems to be somewhat disinterested in we're all interested in it but it is not yet there is no evidence that this is moving voters in their views one way or another so it's a fascinating soap opera we've got another chapter in this right now william barr the attorney general is is in fact spinning this he had a choice of just giving the report without calm.


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