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tv   Inside Story 2019 Ep 124  Al Jazeera  May 4, 2019 8:32pm-9:01pm +03

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decisions what we need is of course and more structured and more concerted approach to the situation in in libya what we also need is of course for those who in the future weeks and months will attempt to reach europe by crossing the media that onion see is there a possibility for intervention by european ships in search and rescue operations at the moment there are no european ships patrolling limited on insee which means that should there be an emergency the people who try to reach europe will be risking their lives and at the same time due to the situation political situation into the conflict in libya their libyan coast guard is currently also not patrolling limited to don and sea so absolutely i agree with charlie that we need of course to set up humanitarian corridors and the european union should do more to solve
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a situation which is currently getting worse and worse as we speak so the other question is stumble there is a geo political element to all of this you mentioned saudi arabia the u.a.e. as being key players in backing khalifa haftar and his attack on tripoli and then you have the un backed government in tripoli itself fighting effectively for its life why doesn't the european union the u.n. place pressure on. the u.a.e. to stop their backing for holly for have to why do we have all of these players creating a situation that's leading to this refugee crisis. well first of all to go back to your guest's comment about finding a way to stablish humanitarian corridors and so on i mean before the current conflict we were faced with a lack of
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a unified. european policy on immigration now that smashed by a lack of european policy on how to deal with libya politically you see the conflict between the italians and the french and the french and the rest of europe and so on of course this lack of policy. has continued since mr mccrone initiated the current round of appeasement. to have to or by inviting him to paris and given him the status of a statesman and so on and now mr mccone is busy with the vests and he wants a simple policy that's offered by his former minister mr logorrhea which is support a new dictator and get it over with so we have all these conflicts between the rest of the world and europe and within europe itself and also because of the immoralities and saudis and their preference with the egyptians to oppose the arab
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spring to oppose democracy in the area they see it as a danger and as a threat to their systems and that's why we have this conflict now and lack of coordination between all the players in the area now charlie partly your job your the u.n. or few j. agencies job is to deal with the situation as it is on the ground how are the root causes of this what's actually driving all of the. stumble just to do with the european union to do with america to do with the u.a.e. and saudi arabia and their backing of various different factions in your conversations at the u.n. how much of that is a frustration. well i mean absolutely any any approach to what's happening in libya needs a holistic and comprehensive outlook that not only looks at the outcomes in terms
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of people attempting to cross the mediterranean and now the very pressing needs to get people out of the tension senses but we also need to look at what's happening in countries of origin and in countries of transit so that we look at the whole journey before people even get to live via in countries of origin more effort needs to be taken to to address the root causes the creating of violence and war we need to increase mediation efforts to bring warring parties to the table in dialogue to end conflict where exists and that also needs to be more support to countries throughout sub-saharan africa and north africa with their asylum systems and with development support so that they're better able to accommodate asylum seekers and refugees when they arrive in their countries but talking about celerity a point as well it's really important the more is done to tackle the criminal
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networks and the smuggling networks thrive of people's despair in these situations they need to be held to account and they need to be you know held accountable in a court of law and their operation ceased if we're going to see a change. absolutely that's bringing in tonight hot in brussels it's very interesting points that charlie actually makes in geneva when he talks about there needs to be more done about the criminal gangs now what's the european union's policy towards investigating these gangs in these networks. so currently a major operation in place by the european union which is operations to fia is directed at dismantling. the smugglers network what has to be said however is that as we have heard smugglers network are oftentimes tightly connected with official authority so at the moment it is really hard to draw
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a line and i absolutely agree that smugglers must be tried and it must be held accountable for their actions but it is also true that the ambiguity when it comes to the european union's policy towards libya is that oftentimes what are funded are no not libyan coast guard out ortiz but muggers themselves so it is really hard to unravel the complex libyan situation and draw a clear line at the moment so in istanbul it is a very complex situation within libya itself but the bottom line seems to be that a lot of people in libya are making a lot of money from these smuggling routes these people trafficking human trafficking routes how difficult then is it to dismantle those networks why isn't the u.n. back government been able to disrupt dismantle those networks. well
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you dismantle them but. by making sure that the root causes of this from of salt the root causes are in the countries of origin the guest just a transit point for example and i agree with your guest from brussels that when we talk about dismantling this criminal network i agree with that if you include in it also the regimes that are controlling those countries for example i'll give you an example the reports. are known about a get is in and nature and if it's a city its annual income from from this business is one hundred million a year in a country where the average the average wage is about the average income is about thirty dollars a month per individual this is this is a city where
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a lot of these migrants stay for a couple of days or a few days before they move on to libya and they move on to libya with the protection of government soldiers i mean. but this but these regimes are supported and mostly by france france is supporting a dictator that's been in power for over twenty years in chad a dictator has been in power for thirty three years and nature and so also unless you solve the problem i mean the problem of the problem in libya cannot be addressed with the continuing. journeys of refugees year round from these countries of origin so there's an incredible amount of frustration in your voice there is you seem to be very angry about this do you think both the european union the wider world generally is taking the wrong approach to sorting out this migrant problem this refugee problem. they don't wonder
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if he she they don't they support dictatorships in africa they don't want to do any development in africa and then they complain and they fight among each other how could these countries that are poor. in terms of resources in terms of governance can solve this this issue libyans libyans are six million people with a lot of oil they don't need the migrant business to prosper but since the government is not doing anything because of european interference in iraq interference the war is going on so these criminal gangs flourish and do other business other than the business that's available in a country that stable with a lot of oil resources tell us in geneva do you think anybody's listening to the kind of opinion our guest in istanbul is saying but we have seen some progress in certain areas there are some seeds of hope for
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this i mean we've seen a handful of european countries who have come together and although it's on an ad hoc basis has happened now on a number of occasions where they've come forward to allow boats carrying people leaving libya to disembark and to share a distribution of the people on board we've also seen as other countries who have taken part in the evacuation and resettlement process is. you know this is just a drop in the ocean right now for what's needed and we don't have the luxury of time to wait for these to become more fleshed out we need a. europe wide approach that comes forward is rooted in those principles of compassion and humanity and respect for human rights that the european union was founded on to come forward with a fair and and just an equitable approach to this. other tonight how in brussels
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europe needs to step up this is what we seem to be hearing from both of our guests in istanbul and in geneva they need to do more but they're not doing more what's the what's the problem at the moment. that are several problems that probably have been for far too long set aside one of course as as it has been mentioned ease we europe the european union has now been the able to develop a coherent foreign policy but when it comes to the specific needs of both migrants who are currently hand in detention centers or do those who transit across libya i think there the problem has been that there was no specific effort or success that addresses the problem of illegal pathways to reach europe
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currently a person who wants to reach the european union to five an application for asylum doesn't have the possibility of reaching their european union safely or regularly so there we have a serious fault by the european union that number over and over again has not been able to reach a consensus over legal pass way. and under problem of course is that ever since two thousand and fifteen that is the onset of this so-called migration prizes. many decisions have been taken but the overall goal has been to decrease the number of arrivals rather than finding a solution as has been mentioned rooted in the principles of protection of human rights and. we did goal in mind of respecting and fulfilling the obligation of the
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member states under the geneva convention so there we have a lack of. long term and short or. on the part of the european union. member states have not been able to reach a consensus and really as as at these as it has been mentioned that the current crisis in libya only makes these decisions merge and i would like to thank all our guests lee we are out of time charlie actually saw and night hot thank you very much and thank you too for chick you can see the program again anytime by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j. inside story for me imran khan and the whole team head like that i
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to defy gravity every few cities is expected to complete the pilgrimage to ensure peace and happiness when it became a democracy in two thousand and eight the town put happiness at the center of all political policy inspiring the un to pass a resolution urging other nations to follow betimes example but how do you measure it many brittany's happiness is what we ensure it if it is quantifiable but by simply turning its pursuit into policy bhutan has done what no other country has. becoming a living legend to the young age was simply not enough. he transformed his influence on the pitch into political clout the book piece to the ivory coast. hosted by eric cantona football rebels begins with a look at the life of video taught by the former who succeeded with politicians not . to be
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a top but in the ivorian civil war on al-jazeera. well i think one of our biggest strengths is that we talk to normal everyday people we get them to tell their stories and doing that really reveals the truth people are still gathered outside these gates waiting for any information most of them don't know whether their loved ones are alive or dead or miami really is a place where two worlds meet we can get to washington d.c. in two hours we can get it on jurists in the rest of central america heard about the same time but more importantly why those two cultures north and south america at least that's to teach it's a very important place for al-jazeera to be. how our has i'm seeking the top stories on edges yet israeli airstrikes and artillery have attacked gaza after palestinian fighters fired a barrel of rockets into israel israeli military commanders say at least one
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hundred rockets were launched from gaza into southern israel the ministry of health in gaza says israeli artillery has killed at least one palestinian area for said with more from west jerusalem the very latest we're hearing from the israeli military is that they say now more than one hundred projectiles have been fired out of gaza into israeli territory the other. what we also heard from guns or itself is that there is a bit of a pause it seems at least in terms of the rocket fire coming out we expect that perhaps to be to do with the funerals which are now underway for people who were killed during the course of friday now on friday there were two protesters who were killed or at least one dying overnight after sniper fire by the israeli side during the border protests. a cyclon forney has stormed into bangladesh killing at least twelve people and forcing more than two million to seek safety on higher ground the
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storm has weakened significantly since being the most powerful cycling to india in twenty years lopez hole diane has more thanks a trail of destruction along india's eastern coast with winds around two hundred kilometers per hour so i can plan he ripped apart homes in addition state. toppled collar lines and left up to the trees covering the streets. so don't dare to get the social corporations were made before hand but houses and shops everything is destroyed but i have never seen anything like this the storm has weakened since making landfall in the indian city of puri on friday but now neighboring bangladesh is bracing itself nearly two million people have been moved to shelters. despite the destruction and death toll the indian government says the situation in could have been worse about one million people were evacuated airports and schools were closed off before the storm hit. a different outcome from one thousand nine hundred
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ninety nine when a super cycle killed more than ten thousand people across the state. now emergency crews are trying to clear the wreckage but many roads are blocked and some communities are completely closed off. a block of it a one quarter i was really afraid when the storm hit us we were lucky that we were all downstairs if my children were up stairs they wouldn't have survived all our belongings our money everything is gone i've lost it all. there are concerns there could be flooding india's navy air force and disaster response force are on standby . but our teams go to each and every site we get reports from we've been working since morning our teams have been out there since the cycle and calm down. the coast of additional state is vulnerable to find clones and tsunamis over the years embankments and shelters have been built but for now the focus is on how to convert
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cover from the storm cards here lopez to the young al jazeera weapons experts are trying to confirm the latest suspected rocket launches from north korea after the breakdown in denuclearization talks with the u.s. south korea's defense ministry says they picked up several launches but they weren't ballistic missiles the death toll from heavy shelling in rebel held areas of northern syria has now reached at least twenty two the violence has forced the university of it live to send students home and the eastern part of the region has come under further attack from russian and syrian government air strikes thailand's king what you are long gone has been crowned monarch after two years of mourning his father. placed the seven point three crown on his head in a labrat coronation ceremony mixing buddhist and hindu traditions. car has been restored to the largest city in bend in following two days of riots sparked by
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election results of these two people were killed in a new as police force supporters of opposition parties which were barred from last sunday's election those are the headlines now it's the occupation of the american mind. feel
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it he. he. is your lawyer two thousand and fourteen israel launched a devastating military attack on the gaza strip. over the course of fifty one days he's ready to drop twenty thousand tons of explosives on goes the densely populated area and the sites for the. killing of the two thousand palestinians moving tens of thousands more. the overwhelming majority of these casualties were civilians the strip of land is being bombarded from the sea and israel launched at least one hundred sixty strikes on the gaza strip. and there's one less hospital in gaza now . today a latin hospital. and she is scared of the attacks boat outrage and condemnation around the world israel's month long pounding of gaza shocks many people around the well mass demonstrations have been held in many of the world's
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major cities. but in the united states the story was different polls show the american people holding firm in their support for israel this is the latest poll the american show. fifty seven percent of those polled say israel's action in gaza is justified thirty four percent say unjustified these numbers were striking but they were new a little course of a conflict in which palestinian casualties so far outnumbered israeli casualties the american people have consistently shown from more sympathy for israelis than for palestinians it's very difficult to force public opinion on any question from the media coverage that people rely on to form opinions and i think the most prevalent lesson from looking at the coverage is that the coverage tends to see this conflict from the israeli side study after study has demonstrated that israeli perspectives dominate american media coverage so by far the most common thing we've
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heard is that everything comes down to israel's right to defend itself israel is a state that implements its right to defend itself and its citizens it is a talking point that is set from the top and by the top i mean from the highest officials government officials who are commenting on this issue which the media obsessive we cover the repeats a man's gotta do what a man's got to do in your country has got to do what the country's got to do we have to defend ourselves in the most recent war in two thousand and fourteen when we looked at mainstream media outlets almost by a margin of three to one israeli spokespeople over represented compared to palestinian spokespeople so almost every time you turned on the screen there was a israeli representative on the screen telling you israel is the one that's in a position of defense it is being attacked and basically israel is saying hey you
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don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that the fuck you are allowed to defend yourself add to this the fact that you have american elected officials also reinforcing israel's right to defend itself as i've said many times israel has a right to defend itself against rocket and tunnel. from hamas and what gets pushed out of the frame entirely is the fact that out the for almost fifty years palestinians have been systematically this possessed from their land and the knife the most basic human rights. pioneers and refugees from countries of the oppression young and old they are going down the land. they will mark to their work in the new resettlement to build. one response they want real will respond to palestine and.
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zionism the nationalist movement that emerged in europe in the late eighteenth hundreds was dedicated to the idea that the jewish people of the centuries of living his persecuted minorities within other countries were entitled to state an historic palestine the biblical homeland of the jews more than three thousand years before but there was a basic problem with the choice from the start. palestine was already home to hundreds of thousands of palestinian arabs who had been living in palestine for centuries. after world war two when the holocaust the situation reached a breakpoint ultimately the british colonial government made the decision to withdrawal and to polish the problem on to the newly created united nations and nine hundred forty seven un resolution one eight one recommended that palestine be split into two parts jews who are a third of the population would receive fifty six percent of the land palestinians
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who were two thirds of the population and possessed move ninety percent of historic palestine would receive forty four percent these terms were immediately rejected by arab leaders as unfair but in the spring of one hundred forty eight years on its leaders declared israel a state on the proposed borders anyway triggering the first arab israeli will. get out. early morning. after winning a crushing victory israel took possession of even more land by the time almost this was declared in one hundred forty nine israel controls seventy eight percent of historic palestine the creation of the new state would be celebrated by israelis as a triumph but to this day it is commemorated by palestinians as the nakba the arabic term for the catastrophe in memory of the hundreds of thousands of palestinians who were driven from their homes to make way for the new jewish state were all told approximately seven hundred thousand people more than half of august
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on its native population were up rooted were there's a lot of sympathy that can be generated i think rightly so for what jewish people as a whole have dealt with in western societies and globally because of anti-semitism the question then becomes what is the proper response to that design is the answer . of course statehood and there's many people who would sympathize with that if it was in fact done in a vacuum and if it was in fact done for a people without a land in a land without people the reality is that's just not the way that it happened. there were people here they lost their homes their livelihood their nation their everything this was a. term that was ninety three percent palestinian arab and six seven percent jewish how did it suddenly become eighty percent jewish and twenty percent palestinian this was not a normal demographic transition this was
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a consequence of israel's desire to create a jewish state and to do that have to get rid of as many palestinians as possible the palestinians use the term to task.


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