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coming soon on al-jazeera. hello welcome to another look at the international forecast we've still got a few showers into the middle east over the next couple of days but by and large it should be essentially dry you can see the showers clout there into iran up towards the caspian to the east of that there's some heat still in place 30 celsius there for kabul to stilling to tashkent and hossa still for karate it around $37.00 celsius though those showers then pushing up to towards terra behind that well aids on for over a bad bad 43 celsius rather more pleasant 29 in beirut's over the next couple of days even more cloud just sliding its way into turkey into syria by friday and the showers will continue just around normal around them towards us central areas maybe wanted to showers there coming into afghanistan by friday afternoon a chance of water to shallowest around the gulf of
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a little more cloud in place before much of the arabian peninsula as it should be sticking hot and dry 4243 celsius here in doha light winds it should feel quite pleasant if a little on the tasty side over the next couple of days meanwhile this is southern africa dry here as well lots of sunshine around some showers around the mozambique channel but for much of southern africa it is dry fine and sunny. when a military coup overthrew chile's marxist president one stadium's became prisms and the hunters sole objective was absolute control. publicly refused to accept dictatorship episode 4 of football rebels expose the life of. the footballer whose personal story swayed of votes that altered the history of his country carlos caselli and the demise of
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israel. and within months after prime minister benjamin netanyahu fails to form a government. i'm richelle carey this is our jazeera live from coming up on u.s. tensions on the agenda gulf leaders to meet at an emergency summit. arabia. after a nationwide strike sudan's protest leaders warn of more civil disobedience to force the military into talks on civilian rule. and how to provide an identity asian officials need to devise a plan to help millions of stateless people. israel is facing an unprecedented sex 2nd election this year after prime minister benjamin netanyahu failed to form a coalition government before midnight deadline happened just 7 weeks after he
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claimed a major victory in parliamentary elections the new vote will be held and september kerry fossett reports. dick cheney but after a bruising final day trying to magical last minute coalition deal benjamin netanyahu space said it all it failed she beamed out of. niggas israeli parliament and netanyahu urging gloated to dissolve it so and take israel into an unprecedented 2nd election in the same year it's now his best hope of cleaning on to power but he insisted voters shouldn't blame him the blame belonged to his former defense minister avigdor lieberman. global amount of didn't even want to trouble to look much more it is just unbelievable just unbelievable lieberman is now part of the left he is from the left blog you give him votes for the right but he doesn't give his vote to the right wing government this is what we see. lieberman needs a secular party opposed to what he calls attempts to make israel
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a religious state he was insisting on the passage unchanged of a bill that would increase the numbers of ultra-orthodox jews being drafted for national service the ultra-orthodox parties also a key part of any right wing coalition want the law softened the women held firm and the coalition was doomed liquid. the kooris failed in this task to form a coalition to form a government together with their turn to the altar orthodox they bear full responsibility for the fact that israel is now going back once again to an election failure to form a coalition would usually put the question back in the hands of the israeli president he would then select a member of the knesset in all likelihood a different one and give that person a chance to form a government but these aren't normal times benjamin netanyahu is facing pending indictments in 3 separate corruption cases in order to give him the best chance of fighting that off only the top job will do last weekend tens of thousands took to the streets of tel aviv for a rally against netanyahu is apparent attempt to legislate immunity from
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prosecution and ensure the courts couldn't overturn such a law once passed with his 1st indictment hearing june october even if he wins the september election and manages to form a government and he hopes of ensuring immunity will be seriously dented it might make it harder for him but he's. very. strong. heikki political capabilities so it's not his last word for sure he will try to maneuver opposition leader benny gantz says the elections are all about netanyahu is bid to survive prosecution we got stable in b. but. really this is all happening for only 2 words only 2 words legal fortress there is no other reason her. dance was mocked for declaring. victory early on election night in april but now it's clear. premature the fight he thought he'd won
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7 weeks ago as months left to run. was jerusalem senior white house adviser jared kushner is in israel where he's expected to meet prime minister benjamin netanyahu has been touring the middle east to build up support for his plan for israel and palestine is already met leaders in jordan and morocco and scheduled a conference in bahrain next month where he plans to unveil the economic portion of his plan that set to be released early jacobs is a partner at the trot national security project in new york he says a political turmoil in israel will put cushions middle east peace plan on hold jared questionnaire and jason greenblatt are both in jerusalem right now i think both of them are probably more relieved than the kid who finds out he doesn't have to do the book report for the next day the reality is i think this entirely shelves trumps deal of the century which is good for the region and good for america and good for israel because the parts of the plan that have sort of snuck their way out
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were certainly not balanced and were certainly not good for everybody so that getting put back on the shelf is probably in the best interest of everyone tensions between washington and tehran are the focus of a series of meetings taking place in saudi arabia over the next 2 days 4 ministers from the organization of islamic cooperation have been meeting in the city of jeddah andrew symonds reports. the 1st of 3 major gatherings of leaders one objective to find a way of reducing tension in the middle east it's difficult at a time when divisions within the region run deep made worse by the battle of rhetoric between the united states and iran the hosts for these talks saudi arabia has made its position clear. we emphasize the need to exert more efforts to combat the subversive activities of extremist terrorist groups they must be addressed with all strength and firmness. a reference there to damage to 4 vessels
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including 2 saudi all tankers off the coast of the united arab emirates earlier this month and drone attacks on saudi oil installations 2 days later the saudis had accused iran of ordering the drone attack which was claimed by new things in yemen in the run up to these talks by foreign ministers from the organization of islamic cooperation john bolton the u.s. national security advisor visiting the us he said naval mines almost certainly from iran we used to attack shipping but he didn't refer to any evidence adding who else would you think is doing it somebody from nepal iran's foreign ministry dismissed bolton's remarks as a ludicrous claim and the supreme leader ayatollah ali how many reasserted we will not negotiate with america because negotiation has no benefit and carries harm. before the talking started in jeddah it emerged that katsav prime minister abdullah
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bin nasa bin khalifa lanny will attend g.c.c. and arab league sessions on thursday it will be cattles 1st high level contacts with saudi the u.a.e. bahrain and egypt since the fall states imposed an ad land and sea blockade on the country nearly 2 years ago the 4 states had accused cats of supporting terrorism accusations vehemently denied by category leaders the united states wants to see an end to the blockade on cata i would hope that they could work out some of these things because they have essentially babying the saudis destroyed the gulf cooperation council it's a paper organization now it never was for middle but now it's almost nothing because of this bitter fight within the ranks of its own members this is not a way to assure security in the gulf and it's not a way to present iran with
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a solid front from as it were the other side of the ocean whether this could be a 1st step towards repro small is unclear but the immediate effect of cattle is involvement here could result in a broader debate over relations with iran andrew simmons al-jazeera. dan have declared their 2 day strike a success all across it and stop working on tuesday and wednesday. campaign to try and force a transitional military council to hand power to civilians. in khartoum. out of their offices and onto the streets government and bank workers walked of the job for 2 days in a new bed to precious to dance military to hand over power to a civilian let's council and the opposition coalition is warning they'll go even further if the military doesn't meet their demands. the next step will be civil
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disobedience if the military council does not accept the demands of the sudanese people also if the rapid deployment forces continue to harass people as happening got a reef and some areas of khartoum they will cause violence and will try to push the country into such a direction of but we will not be led into any form of violence regardless of their product national. the message came after the military council which came to power after ousting president obama will bashir in early april said that it won't hand over power to a government that is not elected and that talks to form a transitional government must include all parties in the country talks between the military council and the opposition coalition to form a transitional government was suspended in mid may after the 2 sides failed to agree on who will lead the transitional period the military council says if no progress is made it will call for elections before the end of the year a move rejected by the opposition amid the stalemate a sitting continues outside the army headquarters on wednesday a dispute between factions of the military led to the death of one female protester
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and the injury of several others 2 weeks ago protested accuse the military of shooting at them resulting in the deaths of at least 6 people and the entry of more than 200 others made. protesters are concerned that there will be more catastrophe like the 12 weeks ago many rushed to defend their fellow protesters. people have become more cautious more terms that the military might try to do something. the risk of violence doesn't put a protesters who remain outside the headquarters for the 2nd we do want to go into the civilian government is in place and the revolution is complete we're going on to 0 to. a meeting on statelessness is being hosted by the un in bangkok delegates from more than 15 asia pacific countries are taking part they're expected to pledge action ahead of a global gathering in geneva in october so what are the causes of statelessness and just how big of a problem has it become the un refugee agency estimates there are at least 10000000
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stateless people worldwide a 3rd of them children if when that state was for plenty of reasons in many cases because of ethnic and religious discrimination that's the case what they were for me and maher the u.n. describes them as the most persecuted minority in the world. live with us in bangkok where this this agenda this conference rather will be happening so what is on the agenda. we're still so far today on the agenda really is kind of discussions about best practices what has worked and hasn't worked in these 15 nations in asia in the pacific who have come here for this meeting so they're discussing through this so they can kind of share ideas and share what has worked for them and what needs to be focused on not to discuss this further we're going to bring in melanie kohn and she is the head of u.n. h.c.r. that's a refugee agency statelessness program thank you very much as a very busy day for you so thank you for taking the time let's take a step back statelessness what really does it mean you know we know what refugees
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are internally distrait displaced persons i.d.p.'s what are stateless people thank you for that scott and 1st of all thank you for having me on it's a great question even though i work on statelessness full time i'm very aware that most people have never heard of statelessness it's a bit counterintuitive most people have a nationality everybody they know has a nationality so statelessness is a bit of a mystery but it is the situation of people who have no nationality no government on the planet recognizes them as its citizens it's different from the refugee age issue because stateless people haven't crossed an international border typically there can be exceptions but most stateless people live and die in the country they were born and without ever having a nationality it when you look at this region in particular it sounds as though we have one of the worst cases of statelessness people and that are the range of when you have this you know this is
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a workshop going on here in the region this is going to be i guess what's discussed here brought to geneva in october when you look at what's being done here now you've got this really big problem just next door what's being done what needs to be done to correct that. that example but also broadly here in asia well the good thing about working on statelessness and it's one of the inspiring things is it's fully solvable the solutions are at hand all governments need to is the political will to adopt best practices in their nationality laws so for example in the case of the room. that there is explicit discrimination and myanmar's nationality law jamar is by no means alone however some 20 governments on the planet a little bit more have some form of discrimination whether based on religion ethnicity or race and their nationality law many more governments have gender discrimination in the nationality law they don't let women confer nationality on their children on an equal basis as men so what we're basically doing here is we're
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advocating with these governments for the adoption of best practices in their nationality laws the high level segment that you mentioned that will be held in geneva in october is an opportunity for the governments that have made positive reforms and there are many to take credit for those to shine the spotlight on the good practices it's a little bit glass half full glass half empty we have a lot more to do but we've seen tremendous strides in the last 5 years when it comes to the identification of state with people protection of stateless people grant of nationality law reforms and accession to the statelessness conventions we've seen 20 new accessions to the state with most conventions in just the last 4 and a half years so i guess the biggest challenge is getting these nations to it here to the laws that really are already in place and obviously there are some great issues with that so we should also this meeting here these best practices and discussions will be taken again to the bigger state was this meeting in geneva in october. or live for us in bangkok scott thank you so had on al-jazeera toys
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tariffs and trade well examined donald trump strategy and u.s. manufacturing. we've got some quotes of weather pushing into western parts of your quieter in warmer weather actually the storms that were seated she said they're going to ease their way further eastward just allowing a nice lots of clearer to come a little bit of clout there just across england well snow right now into scotland it's northern out of her time on thursday but look at the temperatures they started to not jobs around $21.00 celsius their 4th day showers there is the central parts there pushing their way towards that western side of russia 27 celsius in moscow as a temperature starting to slide away attending increasingly wet in the process then
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a few light showers in the east now if you're on friday so into parts generally dry a fair bit of cloud down towards the balkans no there will still be one or 2 showers here as is the case too close northern parts of potent it to the north of chairman a salute a bit of wet weather there into northern ireland and also into scotland for a time but $26.00 in london so $26.00 in paris $22.00 in london we're getting up into the thirty's there for madrid warm sunshine busting through then more sunshine here across northern parts of africa a little bit of cloud just making its way out of choosier pushing across a good part of libya still very warm to the east of that car with a high of 39. as politicians in washington. we talked to the people at the center of the story many of them just said you know it's very dangerous because the money comes from there
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and it's not it's a very safe place migrants smugglers and people who live along the border. patrol just 0. 0. with every you. can watch an officer in let's recap the top stories right now israel is facing an unprecedented 2nd election this year after prime minister benjamin netanyahu failed to form a coalition government before him and i deadline that's happened just 7 weeks after he claimed a major victory in parliamentary elections. prime minister as expected to attend
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a summit in saudi arabia the 1st high level meeting since a blockade against his nation the saudis are also holding a series of meetings to discuss regional challenges including rising tensions between the u.s. and iran protest groups and sudan had declared a 2 day strike a success but now threatening a civil disobedience campaign if military leaders don't listen to their demands and hand over to civilian rule. northern syria or at least 43 people have been killed in 2 days of bombardment by russian backed government forces that are targeting the remaining rebel strongholds in hama and southern and let the u.n. says more than 300000 people have been displaced in the past. a month of american energy i'm speaking supports from the united nations where the u.n. special envoy to syria is calling for an immediate cease fire special envoy good morning are you concerned about the situation in the u.n. special envoy pedersen here in new york to brief the security council as the
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offensive in it live continues he met ambassadors here in the consultations room the place where close security council meetings are held afterwards mr pedersen who's trying to get peace talks going again in geneva said his meeting had been dominated by events in adlib there are 3000000 civilians. in a live prominence too many has been killed and obviously what is happening is not proportional in relationship to civilian casualties and the fight against terror is what we need to see is that the fight against terrorism is continuing it needs to be proportional to the challenge and so it's illegal what's been happening. thank you. the russian delegation strongly denied its forces and those of the syrian government were breaching international law despite the statements of the un sue military in office that medical facilities were being repeatedly targeted in it led
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why are you bombing hospitals though we went to medical facilities will not bomb hospitals the syrian army believing isn't and please be very much courses and double chip all this source of information of it you called our source information for us our church. double chip all the information of it your quart of these so-called bombardments including from the u.n. in the world in from your air the u.s. special envoy for syria the jim jeffords said the situation in adlib was horrific he called for an immediate cease fire. but for now there's no indication that the russians or the syrian government prepared to comply with that james by. the united nations. hunger and rescue team say there is minimal hope for survivors after a boat capsized on the danube at least 7 people are confirmed to have died and
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another 21 are missing the boat was carrying south korean tourists heavy rain and strong currents have been hampering the rescue efforts. the boat was don't i'm preparing for departure at the time of the accident we received a report that a big a cruise boat crashed into iowa one political opponents of donald trump are once again demanding his impeachment after robert muller made his 1st comments on the russian mastication the special counsel said he had nothing to add to his report which debunked claims of collusion with the trump campaign but he went on to say this is a quote if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime he would have said so jordan has more show up you got. for more than 2 years robert mueller has not spoken about his investigation into charges russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election a one molar told reporters this will be the 1st and last time that they and
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congress will hear from him any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report it contains our findings and analysis and the reasons for the decisions we made we chose those words carefully and the work speaks for itself and the report is my testimony. i would not provide information beyond that which is already public in any appearance before congress house democrats had wanted miller she testified about all he learned during the 2 year long investigation one legislator implied muller's a potential appearance may not be as important as what he has already confirmed president donald trump interfered in the investigation if muller wanted to exonerate the president from having committed the crime he would have said so instead the special counsel makes clear that obstruction of justice which he found substantial evidence of is a serious crime to stripes at the core of our justice system muller has been
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criticized for not charging trump with the structural despite a new report saying he had considered doing so to the special counsel explained why he didn't under long standing department policy a president president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office that is unconstitutional even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view that too is prohibited a special counsel's office is part of the department of justice and by regulation it was bound by that department policy charging the president with a crime was therefore not an option we could consider muller also underscored a couple of points he said there's no doubt the russian government meddled in the 2016 race and muller did not criticize the way attorney general bill barr handled the release of the final report despite many stories he thought barr had
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mischaracterized his team's conclusions will trump quickly reacted on twitter. nothing changes from the report there was insufficient evidence and therefore in our country a person is innocent the case is closed thank you. some congressional democrats say the time for impeaching tromp is at hand but the house speaker refuses to go that far we do want to make such a compelling case such an ironclad cas case that even the republican senate which at the time seems to be not an objective jury will be convinced of the path that we have to take as a country to be clear moeller did not clear trump of wrongdoing but he also made it clear while he can't hold the president accountable there are others who can do so if they want rosalynn jordan al-jazeera washington as the u.s. and china battle over tariffs apple c.e.o.
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tim cook recently estimated that if i phones were made in the u.s. completely it cost consumers up to $100000.00 that's partly due to higher labor costs but also a shortage of manufacturing expertise and infrastructure robber and also traveled to thailand near los angeles to find out more so we have the number 12 and 304 up to 9. isaac larry in those toys he's the c.e.o. of m.g.a. entertainment one of the most successful toy makers in the u.s. which of these toys here on the wall are made in the united states no no what are made in the none of the nano if you make the beast will be for 14000000. the number one thing to you know america if you made the film to us because you would pay $40.00 for it they will buy it for $40.00 for the kids would not have
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beef toys you can possible to make a log of to leave. you with as the u.s. china trade war heats up president donald trump gives companies some simple advice last september he tweeted make your products in the united states instead of china start building new plants now exciting but trade experts say trying to replace china's factories isn't an exciting idea it's a bad one we have so many strengths that we should be working with rather than trying to duplicate the industries of the past today's us economy is based on providing services and ideas not heavy industry and china's advantage isn't just in lower labor costs from toys to television sets to technology the u.s. simply lacks the manufacturing infrastructure and expertise to produce many of the
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items which are now made in china c.e.o. isaac larry and gives one example i've been doing for 40 years harrier grooming and between ease and routine even the kid can not have been here if the shortage of exclude do you want to wait for 30 years 40 years for america to become the big dog manufacturing you would think in the ward in philly. but there are hundreds of highly paid workers at larry and company headquarters designed to creepy teeth coming out of their grain and they are paid a lot more for that the moral of the story of toys tariffs and trade is that the u.s. economy runs uncreative brainpower not industrial brawn rob reynolds i'll just sirrah chatsworth california. hundreds of people in bosnia have protest in syria over
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a secretly recorded video that appears to show the head of the country's top judicial body taking bribes the demonstrators have been manning the resignation of milan here who oversees all judges and prosecutors. thousands of people marched through argentina's capital to protest against president reed so mark raised austerity policies and the strike has also shut down key grain ports and around the flights traceable has more from. another national strike against the government creates the 5th one since he took office back in 2015 schools and banks are closed to the public's transport down in the city and mostly around the country which you can see right behind me are some social movements here that are giving away free food in this demonstration in the center of the capital. people here say that the reason why they're calling for a strike is the rising unemployment and poverty in the country. there were 4 there
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were people who don't know if the austerity measures are affecting the ocean selling population undaunted by the international monetary fund last year some of these lost 15 percent of value this year. argentina is facing an economic crisis that has had a severe effect on living standards in the country if they should in 2018 reached almost 50 percent and the rate has continued to price in 2019 but wages are not keeping up with the pace yes in the south the situation is a disaster i have a soup kitchen and one a series and the amount of people coming continues to grow we don't have enough the government says that this strike hurts the country's economy even more and that it's been organized by political opponents presidential elections are scheduled to take place in october this year the economic situation has a team. rate it mackie's popularity and his chances of being reelected are at risk
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. for the headlines on al-jazeera israel is facing an unprecedented 2nd election this year after prime minister benjamin netanyahu failed to form a coalition government behind before rather midnight deadline that's happened just 7 weeks after he claimed a major victory in parliamentary elections and yahoo insisted the blame belong to his former defense minister avigdor lieberman. believe. it is just unbelievable just unbelievable off a door lieberman is now part of the left he's from the left bloc you give him votes for the right and he doesn't give his boot to the right wing government this is what we see a senior white house advisor questioner is in israel where he is expected to meet with prime minister netanyahu because there has been touring the middle east to build up support for his plan for israel and palestine has already met leaders in
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jordan and morocco he's scheduled a conference in bahrain next month where he plans to unveil the economic portion of his plan that's yet to be released. prime minister is expected to attend a summit in saudi arabia the 1st high level meeting since a blockade against his nation the saudis are holding a series of meetings to discuss regional challenges including rising tensions between the u.s. and iran. protest leaders in sudan have declared their 2 day strike a success people across sudan stopped working on tuesday and wednesday protest groups are now threatening a campaign of civil disobedience to try and force the transitional military council to hold hands power to civilians. and bury and rescue teams say there is little hope for survivors after a boat capsized on the danube at least 7 people are confirmed to have died 21 others are missing the boat was carrying south korean tourists that reportedly collided with another tourist vessel heavy rain and strong currents have been
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hampering rescue efforts yes special counsel robert mueller has made his 1st public comments since releasing his report on russia's involvement in the 2016 presidential election moller said charging donald trump with a crime was not an option but also say he was not exonerating the president those are the headlines keep it here on al-jazeera also visit our website al-jazeera dot com when you get a moment in the meantime inside story is that next. cricket's biggest challenge has come 2nd glinda miles 6 way 10 take 11 venue. games can australia defend the trade for it will include finally win a world cup play with al-jazeera full of the latest from the 29th cricket wild card . a crackdown on crime or an act of provocation. police have detained several people including 2 un officials in it's so dominated no serbia is
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now deployed troops along the border so what's caused this new flare up between the 2 neighbors with a history of religious and ethnic tensions this is inside story. hello everyone i'm come all santamaria welcome to inside story problems between serbia and kosovo they go back well 10 years to cause suppose independence they go back to the war of the late 99 as they arguably go well beyond that as well so when tensions flare up again as they are right now there is some cause for concern on tuesday serbia put its troops on full alert after arms of course of the police and to the serb dominated area of northern costs of fired tear gas and according to some reports live ammunition and arrested $23.00 people because of
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a call that an operation against organized crime and corruption the arrests even included 2 members of the u.n. mission in costs of sobeys president alexander which says he wants to preserve peace and stability but that serbia quote will be fully ready to protect our people at the shortest notice before we move on just a quick reminder of how these countries came into being and why there is still this tension here's the map kosovo an autonomous region in the former yugoslavia. until its break up in the 1990 s. following that separatist pressure from kosovo only increased its course led to serbia's crackdown on kosovo's albanian population that was only ended by a nato military intervention in 1909 kosovo declared its independence in 2008 it has since been recognized by more than 100 countries but crucially serbia and russia still see it as part of serbia these latest incidents signal rising tensions
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in northern cos of a parts of which remain largely outside the control of the government. and instead pledge their allegiance to belgrade. so here's natasha but in our reporting from mithridates there were kosovan serbs protested against tuesday's police raids in the area where we are in north major feed said this is a predominately serkin it's a palette seen in the northern coast of a people here don't feel they're not going to pristina they feel very close to belgrade in serbia and they've come here to protest because they say that they are being intimidated by crossman authorities now this is because on tuesday the cost of and police launched a major operation they say was across the country but particularly in this region against smuggling of all sorts of goods such as petrol and cigarettes they made several arrests among them some so and so the police officers who were later appear in court in pristina now serbian people here say this is just an opportunity to try
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and fight in them to try and intimidate them the president of serbia has put troops on the border on full alert he says this is for peace and security but also that they will be able to respond if needed the president of course opposes that this is simple more enforcement the whole situation is also being filled by russia calling this a provocation as well because of course russia is an ally great an ally of serbia serbia and russia who do not recognize cos when it's bad. or right here's the panel for today to discuss things with starting in belgrade with. a former politician now head of the forum for ethnic relations in london so they're taken mesko associate director of the consultancy group control risks with a focus on central and south eastern europe and finally in berlin is both a very senior associate of the democratization policy council and a specialist on kosovo serbia relations i thank all of you for joining us today i
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want to start and i'm asking a lot here i know but i want us to look at this. latest incident in isolation outside of the history between the 2 countries i know there is so much history but still let's look at this incident start with you to. kosovo has said it is about corruption it is about organized crime it is about smuggling it is about drugs are those actually real concerns in this part of the world eroding. the support really 2 narratives about one things you have immediately to interpretation no doubt that the from course your point of view and the point to your international presence you know of course on the told one of the actions even of the larger activities fighting is the organised crime specially in the whole territory including the north of course or the motives for that are of course weasely better is a shoot for course and also to show who is controlling territory basically the question
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which arises in the last one year is who is who has this rule where any killed the don't or don't cross over from point to yourselves and sara bia did so only fight for the control of territory people are doubting that the really course who will want to. fight against the organised crime including in the spatial region they're really defunct or they are arresting the people who are the part of organised crime will cause for the south's and serbia in the most important issue is the status of kosovo and the territorial and integrity are said to be a meaning control of the north of the course or one or be clear the human needs and the human being not on the 1st level of the politics said to be an impish there we're going to come back to that issue of territory a lot more i know it's better going to school let me bring you into the
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conversation from london your thoughts on what the actual cost of own police are supposedly cracking down against an. in drugs is one problem i know previously it was i think it was in the year 2000 something like 40 percent of the heroin in europe and north america came from kosovo so they have been problems with things like drugs and smuggling in the past is it still enough of a problem now thank you kamal without that out organized crime is a major issue in the region especially as you mention in kosovo serbia and the border regions which are not always well patrolled we see semi porous borders so organized crime is or is supposed to be one of the key priorities for governments to tackle in the region so with that in mind and looking again as you said in isolation this incident this event there is no reason to doubt the motives of the course of our government that they were looking to tackle organized
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crime networks in their country that it followed similar operations elsewhere in the country earlier on this month also adds to the evidence that they were looking to to dismantle a big organized crime network now having said that. there are issues about how the whole operation was conducted as you mentioned already here there are concerns among the local population about the use of excessive force that was their gas use their avocations about firearms being used so all of these issues put some question marks as to how the whole operation was conducted and what other messages were being signalled there yesterday when the special forces members went to north cost and but. let me let me just going to all agree that organized crime.
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ok organized crime is an issue support of a but let me ask you that. as raise the point that there is a problem there it does need to be dealt with but the way that the course of government and police went about it is it seems to be extremely heavy handed and certainly that's what the serbs would say. come out i would cremate with my predecessor there is a serious problem with the weakness of the rule of law and with high level organized crime and corruption in the whole ofa region is specially about not only in serbia and kosovo and given that fact you know the fact that the judiciary and the police are not in the pan and these 2 countries. any action against organized crime is always part of a kind of selective justice you know so this on the general crowd always in the raises. suspicion about the very action as much as normally inaction on organized
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crime corruption now we have the very specific case of north of course over basically the unresolved status this view of the beggar its actions or best action for 30 years insisting that cause civil war is part of serbia has drawn the region more and more away from serbia and left the region and especially in the north and the limbo where you have a specific because of the status of this view with the rhetoric of there that they are part of serbia or of the 3 reality being summer and that's why it's so varied has been created a very extreme specific next of organized crime and a political patronage system so whenever you know pristina is acting in that context which also has a link between opinion and cause or survive and serbian one it raises suspicion and especially in the way this is i think the 2nd or the 3rd of such action which
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really looks like a firm plot over the last 12 months which is not legally you know linked with the overall very. high level negotiations on the final comprehensive agreement between close once or bear that out for to have gone in a completely wrong direction and raised tensions among the 2 countries and again we've. come back to batter show a little bit later on and issues to do with e.u. ascension what do we make though and maybe i'll come back to you. in belgrade what do you make of the way the serbians have reacted here president bush has put his troops on high alert and that sounds dramatic and i'm sure it looks dramatic as well do you think he would actually act or is there actually too much at stake here for both countries i mean just did the one point on what was previous sale don't forget that in our case serbia corso war do organise crimes players
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politicians and guerilla fighters are into power they're really closely and strongly connected meaning the ordeal. leaders of the organised crime groups there are some kind of the instruments in the political games when sarah be and not the data controller what is the situation reality sometime is using the channels or for communication with little bay needs like industries you know the taxis in the boy could or the custom goods trade or sometimes for publication no difference as security incidents go back to your question i kinda. would. be some kind of the how silly. pocket game. to try to our eyes the level of crazies to shown clearly to 14 years of use that centers and to albanians the serbia is ready to fight on to
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protect the saps from the other side is the message for the local population in belgrade that there are the limits of that intervention to be clear i am sure that his idea will world not to send the. army but the idea was to show your readiness and to prepare if it is needed some other instruments for provoking the local army then other conflicts course if you listen. seriously listen in his speech in the parliament he said that there are basically for him to option one is the dialogue with some compensation in territory of normalization for plus territory composition or the long term 5 for 10 years crisis i mean that now we are in the crossroad. to go in the deep
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deep beneath the skin do localized. frights all too good to die oh we've just seen parties what will happen well when you talk about dialogue and addresses to all of you and then we'll get separate answers but there has been dialogue there had been a you brokered talks which were going on if i'm not mistaken serbia walked away from them in november and again it came down to the issue of territory as you've all talked about and then there's the fact that both want to ascend to the e.u. at some stage i go back to my point that there is a lot at stake here and maybe i'll ask you about this. the amount that is at stake which might actually hold them back from that crossroads which to shun just describe and take them down the path of talking rather than the path of fighting absolutely and i agree with you there kamal i think this time around there is much more at stake from both sides and i do not expect to see that the violence
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and costs of all or cross the border will escalate as a result both countries both governments have as their priority to improve relations with the european union for a very long time that's a key foreign policy priority for both states so taking acts that are going to jeopardize this goal it's not going to be helpful either domestically for their voters or externally with the european union so i think this should prove sufficient to persuade them to can weigh in on the underside of renewing the talks which have been stalled since november but finding a compromise and walking away from flexing muscles and showing strength and for such as you know voters just statements for army being on full alert or on the course of our side we've seen imposition of tire if and other measures which. antagonize serbia and get it to walk away from them from the talks but of ever is
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that enough in your opinion to keep them from going down a path that no one wants them to go down i know we talk a lot about the history between the 2 countries and what could set off again but from what i've heard from all 3 of you this is more about it a current issue now about territory rather than the historical conflict. well i would say no this is not even about territory this is about the west and the you trying to be having started to be a serious actor in one part of the horror of southeastern proud of europe in 201213 you know starting to so-called political dialogue through some leadership by german chancellor a great great and the us bringing an end to the state of his people and they they went to to almost a historical right turn you know by a linking serbia us perish in with the. demanding from them to recognize the reality that belgrade knows for
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a very long time that they have lost cause of all and you know moving towards recognizing that reality which has taken place in 2013 with this so-called april agreement and on focusing you know on on organizing and safeguarding normal life for kosovo or serbs integrating them into kosovo state which including in the north has started in 2013 unfortunately what we have seen over the last 2 years in the so-called final stage or a new stage of the dialogue final negotiations on a final comprehensive agreement on comprehensive overall normalization of relations is an unholy alliance in the within the context of the crisis of the un the west since 2016 we have seen the serbian president trying to you know exploit that to get some gains and to depart from the original agreement trying to get some territory out of course of all cause or president thought she has has reigned into that position of land swap because he has basic privatized the whole dialogue in
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costs of oil and l.a. and they did the whole rest of the political lead for you know xscape in from some war crimes indictment and we have seen the unfortunately they are the high representative of the you trucking the basic principles of the us and western policy in the balkans that is never go into ethno territory and station because this was the start of the balkan wars. forth for some you know reasons of getting any deal done before the end of her mandate unfortunate supported by the washington work by washington mr bolton and the trump administration from their position of you know any deal is a good deal that has raised enormous tension in the region there's a term of lands for passage of all you know with the berlin summit in april 2000 in april this year april 29th it seems like you know that certain provocations we saw you know like yes that they could you know be have to do something with organized crime but they could also easily be an attempt you know of the 2
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a president and berger in pristina that have hit a wall with their policy of 2 years to to create facts on the ground there is something we have seen last year with similar arrests so this is always you know. an area where we have to guess you know whether this is really about fighting organized crime or whether this is really about provoking a crisis support has done a great job there of widening things out for us talking about washington talking about the e.u. talking about the west just one can i add russia into it as well a big international player these days a supporter of serbia is it watching this closely do we need to watch russia closely in this story. surely it's for my point to really experience they are now witnessing a good a new stage of course or crisis basically unfinished war and finish up from ninety's all the time russia was involved in some ways during the night and until
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the put in russia. with the west. and i have been to in some way too many dream the war scene bosnia kosovo now is the completely different situation 1st of all we knew we could not hear the one voice from washington but arsenal west including nato we have a lot of voices a lot to interest the russia using that situation threatening is proper presidency and influence for so long through politics civil society true communication with the religious treacherous plus which is most important energy security russia is the one or the main supplier with the gas or serbia and or 3 d. owner of the biggest energy companies serbia the influential russia. in culture or in politics are really strong but is not one sided russia has also the influence
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not so strong on the albanian side sometimes directly from will be near sometimes we are on carla. and have done so but going back to the 2 days situation we could see something what we recognize is the influence of russia in methodology of managing conflicts the rush him so-called russia but is one of the houses must 6 of our products is producing get management with that but the territorial lies that the conflict. if you look at what is the main dispute between the west and russia this is the nato way spreading of the nato all over the europe and i'm sure that russia using this crisis for stopping right spreading on the nato over serbia macedonia or so on and bosnia.
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maybe the fight for montenegro is over but using the crisis from the north you are destabilizing montenegro meaning the meat into really high level playing in the same time our show has some political strategic and interests to negotiate with the process and the washing talk about to kareena in georgia and the west a more calm and serbia one really hurts a functioning cart in the hand of russia and more school in that negotiation so you mentioned earlier that you didn't think things were going to escalate further. but at the crux of it all is some sort of reproach on some sort of agreement between kosovo and serbia how likely is that actually when there is so much animosity between the 2 over territory and over so many issues and one thing i can say is that there's a definitely a momentum in the region now to address the long standing disputes and here i'd
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like to mention how greece and macedonia resolve their earlier this year last year their dispute over the name of the country north and now so there is some pressure on both sides to find some compromise an agreement a mutual agreement and solve this longstanding problem between the 2 countries with should look. problems with integration into the e.u. or if the government's desire so nato which in serbia case i think it's unlikely but the cost of a might want to do so. as long as there is mutual agreement and as long as there is a leadership within both countries in both governments i think some refreshment solution is possible and it's definitely desirable now having said that there will be spoilers on both sides domestically there may be external actors rush over other
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regional powers who will not necessarily welcome a resolution of a problem of this nature but it is their fickle to forecast exactly when their idea of the circumstances will rise to see this solution boto are going to i mean you seconds left and i get a final divulge information are these if you don't mind just on the idea of this as we say normalization of relations come out this is a lot of centuries old grievances or strong russia this is about a week with we have seen over the last 12 months in this push for land for for alliance between the presidents of serbia and kosovo this has nothing to do with grievances this has to. with the fact that some of the actors in the west based on the current cares within the west both in the you and the us side have departed from the original framework of the dialogue that have shown to be successful it started with the declaring the status dispute closed cause or.


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